Hello everyone! I recently took my Argumentative Writing and today I received my official Lsat score of 164. I expected something around this because the test itself was very difficult, and it was my first official test. I will definitely retake it in October (because of international test dates) and I would love to hear your advice on how to improve more in these upcoming months. I will also have to write my essays while preparing for the test so I could apply as fast as possible upon receiving my score.

I also have a choice to keep this current score or delete it, I would also appreciate your ideas regarding this. I would love to hear your ideas and advice on all of these. Thank you!!!

Part 2 is up! Go check my Study with me group for those who are interested!

Hi everyone!

I am so excited and honestly very proud of myself that my strategy finally worked, and that I now get to share it with other people who are going through this LSAT journey. Before I talk about the details of my Study With Me group, I wanted to first share my LSAT story in case it motivates anyone who is currently going through something similar.

This is going to be a long post, so I decided to split it into two parts. Part 1 will be about my LSAT journey in depth, and Part 2 will be about the actual 10-week Study With Me group and the system I built and used. I hope this helps anyone who feels stuck, discouraged, or unsure of what to do next.

1. 139 → 152

I started studying for the LSAT in March 2025. I had graduated a few years earlier and was working full-time, so I did not really have anyone around me who could give me advice. After doing some research on my own, I found a book called The LSAT Trainer and decided to give it a try. I personally enjoy studying with physical books, so I started there without too much hesitation.

The book was actually very helpful in giving me a solid introduction to how the LSAT works, and it also provides a 4–12 week study plan through its website for free. After about two months of studying with the book, I took a practice test on LawHub and scored a 139.

I was not sad or depressed about that score because I knew it was just a starting point. To me, the only thing left to do was improve. During my final month before the June LSAT, I followed the study plan from The LSAT Trainer, and with that material, I ended up with an official score of 152 in June 2025.

Seeing that score gave me a big boost of confidence because in my head, the calculation was simple: “If I increased 13 points in a month, then six more months of studying will definitely get me into the 170s.”

But I was completely wrong.

That 13-point increase was a scam. Now I know it was dumb luck.

2. 152 → 152

Yup, you saw it right. I did not increase a single point on my October 2025 LSAT. In retrospect, I know why that happened. I was doing almost everything wrong.

So here is what I did to increase 0 points in 4 months, hoping that none of you make the same mistakes. :)

a. I did not fully understand the task for each question type.

During this period, I was not using 7Sage. I was mainly using PrepTests from LawHub and PowerScore explanations to review. As I went through a lot of Logical Reasoning questions, I did recognize that the questions felt repetitive, but I did not understand that each question type had a specific pattern and a specific task.

To be fair, I think part of the problem was that I did not know how to use PowerScore properly. The explanations I found often felt more like discussions among people studying for the LSAT, and because that was the only reference I had at the time, I thought the LSAT was this completely abstract test where I had to rely on my own “logical imagination” or gut feeling to get the right answer.

So I started copying what I saw. I was literally writing a whole novel for each question as my explanation. Obviously, my imagination explaining why an answer was right or wrong did not help me realize that each stimulus has a pattern, and that each question is asking me to perform a specific task. I still have those notes, and I am so embarrassed lol.

b. I did not practice sections/questions under standard timing.

Just like everyone else, I looked up stories and advice from people who scored 170+, and many of them said two things: accuracy first, and review the questions you got wrong. For accuracy, a lot of people said that time management is something to worry about after you become more accurate.

So I did not take sections under standard time. Instead, I gave myself an hour for each section, and sometimes unlimited until I figured out the answer on my own. And even then, some answers still ended up being incorrect.

That became (ano)the(r) major problem. Because I was used to that extended time frame for so long, I could not even reach question 20 in LR under real timing, and I sometimes missed an entire passage in RC. Obviously, this lowered my chance of earning points because I was not even giving myself the opportunity to see questions near the end of the section, including questions I could have gotten right.

And on top of that, I was not even truly increasing my accuracy because of the next mistake I was making:)

c. I was not reviewing questions the right way.

The simple rule of thumb for improving your LSAT score is: understand what the question is asking, and review the questions you missed. Sounds simple, right?

But what if you are reviewing those questions completely the wrong way?

That is what I was doing, and I think it was because of the combination of the two mistakes above. If you do not have a solid understanding of what the LSAT wants you to do, it is very hard to understand why you missed a question. I was not even properly aware of diagramming conditional statements, “if,” “must,” etc. Parallel reasoning felt like a “trust your gut” game to me.

When you put all of that together, you get exactly what I got: 0 point increase after studying 6–7 hours a day, 6 days a week, for 4 months. :)

Honestly, I was devastated when I saw that score. I spent most of my time in bed because I felt so depressed and had no energy to move. At the same time, I did not want my dream of going to law school to remain just a dream. So after about a whole weekend of grieving, I told myself to stop acting like a baby and get back to work.

This time, I started looking for a private tutor because that was how desperate I was, but I immediately changed my mind after seeing the rates. That is when I found 7Sage. At first, I did not love the idea of paying a monthly subscription fee, but I decided to give it a shot because I saw some YouTubers recommending it. So I thought, why not just try?

3. 152 → 172

This is when A LOT changed.

I finally learned that there were actual rules for diagramming. I learned different types of flaws. I changed the way I approached Reading Comprehension passages. What made 7Sage feel like a game changer for me was that it analyzed the questions I got wrong, showed me which question types I needed to prioritize, and made Blind Review much more useful than I expected.

What I loved the most was the explanation for each question. I started getting more questions right, and that made me so excited to take the April LSAT. Two weeks before the exam, I decided to take a completely fresh test because I was curious to see how much I had improved.

Guess what I got.

I scored a 153.

I panicked and was VERY confused. I only had two weeks until the exam, and compared to October, I had improved by one point. This felt like all the studying I committed came back to me as a giant middle finger up to my face and was just so confused. Because I was planning to apply for the 2027 cycle, it felt like June was realistically my last opportunity. So I had no choice but to cancel the April LSAT and push everything back to June. I hope LSAC enjoyed my $248 contribution for the institution's prosperity.

Looking back, I think this was the period when I finally started to understand what was actually wrong with my study process. Just for context, from this point on, I quit my job and studied full-time.

After more than a full year of studying, I was running out of fresh questions, so I was mostly focusing on questions I had missed before. But at that point, I realized that simply doing more questions was no longer my priority because I was getting most questions right during Blind Review.

Then it clicked.

I needed to first get rid of the repeated mistakes I was making under timed conditions.

As I went through my Wrong Answer Journal, I realized that most of my missed questions came down to about 4–5 recurring reasons. More importantly, I realized that those reasons could be organized into a database. So that is exactly what I did. After canceling the April LSAT, I spent about a week building a database that could show me the number one reason I was missing each type of question.

I think this really helped.

After putting my results into the sheet, I realized that different question types had different problem patterns. For example, I was spending too much time on Must be True questions, and misreading sentences were the number one factor why I missed Main conclusion. Once I became aware of the specific mistakes I was making, it became so much easier to design a strategy for what to watch out for.

By doing this, I improved my score by up to 13 points, reaching the mid-to-high 160s. This itself proved that some questions I got wrong were due to stupid mistakes I could have avoided. For the final two months, I relied on this database and adjusted my performance based on what the data was telling me. Because I knew exactly what kinds of mistakes I needed to avoid, I felt a sense of comfort that was completely different from before.

At that point, I honestly would have been satisfied with a mid-high 160. But receiving a low 170 proved to me even more that the strategy worked.

So after going through all these unnecessary struggles, this is the message I want to share:

YOU are the best tutor for yourself. You just need to know exactly where to improve.

There are many ways to achieve that, and in Part 2, I will be sharing one method that I believe can help: my 10-week Study With Me group for the September LSAT.

In that post, I will talk more about the database, how I used it, what the program includes, and how it can help you structure your own study process.

See you tomorrow!!

Hello , I know it's probably a dumb question but I want to ask anyways just to make sure . I heard that In Order to get a 160 you have to get at least all the easy and medium questions right but can you afford to get the hard ones wrong? I know if somebody is trying to reach the 170s they have to get the hard ones right but for me personally a 160 a good.

I was doing a timed sections and then did the blind review. Once submitted my blind review I realized that the system marked some of my correct answer incorrect and then during line review I reviewed it an then actually got it wrong. has anyone else had this issue?

I took the June LSAT and, due to repeated proctor interruptions, I underperformed relative to my PT average and ended up with a 169.

I'm happy that the score wasn't as low as I feared, but since I had been consistently scoring 170+ on my recent PTs, I've decided to retake in August.

The problem is that I'm also applying in the upcoming cycle and originally planned for June to be my final LSAT. My plan was to focus on application materials from July, but now I need to keep studying for the LSAT as well.

For those who retook the LSAT while preparing applications, how did you balance the two? Did you focus almost entirely on the LSAT until test day, or did you work on personal statements and other application materials at the same time?

For context, I'm studying full-time right now and hope to submit my applications in this October. Also I'm an international applicant so might need stronger PS (not sure).

Any advice on timelines, scheduling, or time management would be greatly appreciated!! Thank you!

OMG I got a 180!!! I am still in shock, I was PTing an average in the low 170s, and my last PT before the test was a 165 which was so discouraging. Thank you to 7sage and everyone in this community who has helped me on this journey!! I am still in shock and thinking it is a glitch.

It seems like all over the internet, there are anecdotes saying it takes about 4-6 months to break 170+. However, this seems strange to me because it is not super accurate.

I have a theory that it takes about 600 good hours of studying on average to break 170+. 600 actual recorded study hours, not including breaks and zoning out.

Thought?

Hello LSAT community!

I am writing to inquire about the accuracy and reliability of the "PT equivalent" calculation that is shown for drills and sections. Obviously if the sample size is larger it'll be more accurate and representative, and so the full lengths are more accurate, but how accurate is the ratings for during individual PT sections done in drills?

I ask because it would be nice to know whether I can be using these a guide for my progress. If I am averaging these PT equivalent scores around 160 with the range usually between 155-165, are these to be taken as progress indicators where I can expect to score around a 160?

For context, I am aiming for a 165 in the August LSAT, had a diagnostic of 149, and did my first real PT this week and got a 159. I understand I need to do more PT to get a good idea of my progress, but that is also why I am curious if I can put any weight into the PT equivalent scores during drills as I get those scores more frequently than the full PT scores.

Any tips or comments on how you use this metric would be helpful!

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Expecto Negation — Build the exact negation of each enemy statement before it reaches your castle.

Logic Links — Sort 16 statements into 4 groups that secretly say the same conditional.

These join the four already in the lineup:

Logic Blitz — Judge whether an argument is valid. Practice your conditional and quantifier logic.

Flaw Hunter — Match the two arguments that commit the same logical flaw.

Argument ER — Diagnose the missing link in a conditional argument, then supply the assumption that makes it valid.

Numbers Blitz — Decide whether the numbers support the conclusion. No math involved.

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Just got an official 179!!! I am officially Elle Woods and can now die happily. Thank you 7Sage!! See you in the forums when admissions open

I got 169 on the real test in April (PT scores in my profile were taken in the beginning of the prep. I usually work on sections and don't take PT). In the past month, I was consistently getting -1 (and sometimes -2) wrong per LR section. My blind review had long been -0. But several days ago, I suddenly got -6 in an LR section under the same circumstance, which is the score I got when I started prepping in February, and I've been getting a lot more questions wrong than before. I'm also no longer getting -0 in BR.

When I was getting consistently near perfect scores, wrong answers were from the questions I felt confident about and moved on. Upon doing a review, I'd find out that I neglected one but important word (e.g., "less," which makes a statement comparative), and it seems like I'm now making same errors four to six times per section. And I even make this error again during the BR, only to figure out what I was overlooking during the review of BR.

I'm thinking I must be burnt out. But I honestly don't know what to do about it. If I were a student, I'd take a week off, feel recovered, and come back, but I work full-time in the military. I consistently work 12 hours a day, often responds to the last minute request from the top, and I have no fanciness to study at work most of time. And the workplace drama wears me out. I also have a staff duty this weekend and needs to wake up at 3:30 am on Saturday to go to work. lol So I don't think I'd feel recovered at all even after getting rest from LSAT for a week or so.

Moreover, I barely have time to study during the week, so I just drill five or so questions before I go to bed. So I feel like I don't study enough, and I don't feel comfortable just not studying (especially when not studying doesn't help with recovering from a burnout, as I mentioned above).

If you're a non-trad full-time worker, how did you manage burnout that comes from work, not just an LSAT prep? It's not like I can take a break from work like I take a break from LSAT, and I have another LSAT coming up in August. I honestly don't know what to do.

Hi there. I'm wondering if anyone else in this thread has used up all 5 LSAT attempts, and has any advice in approaching the final one.

I'm someone who has been PTing in the 170s since September 2025. I feel as if I know the test well enough to tutor others in it and have been very active in the discussion threads, etc. Regardless, my exam scores have never translated on the real thing. I'm not sure if anyone relates -- but it is definitely a soul crushing, stomach sinking feeling.

I only have one retake left, and am really scared to have the same thing happen again, especially with the new format changes and now having to go in person. Has anyone else taken all 5, and finally reflected their abilities the 5th time?

Feeling kinda lost and hopeless :(, particularly as I'm unable to diagnose what goes wrong on my real tests. It genuinely feels like someone else is sitting in the chair on exam day. Maybe burnout, maybe at one point going too slow, another too fast. I really don't know.

Need some advice. I scored a 164 on the LSAT. The school I'm applying to a school that has a median LSAT of 161 and a 3.8 GPA, while I have a 3.7 GPA from a less well-known school. I'm considering retaking the LSAT to try for a higher score since i really want a full ride, im considering retaking it. About 18% of admitted students receive full scholarships in this school. Do you guys think it's worth retaking?

Hi all, we're hosting a bunch of office hours today because of score release yesterday. Here's the schedule. Come if you have any questions related to June score release!

I underperfomed on the June LSAT. I want to start all over again and dedicate more time and energy to get my desired score. However, I don't really know what my next steps should be other than keep drilling, blind reviewing, and PTing.

So I wanted to ask those who have more experience than me on this test what things helped them out tremendously. My biggest dream is to break into the 170s. I know that I can do it, and I know it takes a lot of work. The problem is that I don't know how to get there. I feel as if my studying process is not good enough since I haven't seen a major improvement. What can I do?

Any tip would be highly appreciated.

Hey hey!

Any Latinas starting to process of getting into their legal careers, or deep in LSAT studying? I wanted to create a space to connect, debrief, help each other, and maybe even do some study sessions together. I know we're out there, and regardless of where you are in this process know that I'm so F-ing proud of you!!!

Hello everyone!

I’ll be hosting a free LSAT Reading Comprehension class tonight, open to anyone who would like to attend :) Hope to see you there!

RC Class

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PRACTICE DOES PAY OFF! I've been studying for this test for 3+ years, but I finally got into the real groove of things this past year. I am aiming for a 170+ on August's administration, and I started off with an official score of 152. Be patient. Be diligent. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Going through the core curriculum, I am understanding that a huge part of WSE questions is understanding and recognizing assumptions the authors make in the stimulus. But I am having immense difficulty trying to do so. Anyone have any tips for getting better at this?

After scoring back-to-back 173s on PT128, PT138, and PT147, I finally broke 175, scoring a 176 on PT149!! Highest score I've achieved thus far. Hoping I continue to see progress before August. Best of luck to everyone!! Happy studying

Got a 143 today. Currently in LSAT purgatory. Trying to stay positive. Gearing up to enroll in 7sage tutoring for July, and aiming for an August LSAT retake. We got this. As a nontraditional applicant, current full time professor, I am not looking at rank or prestige. Just get me in a classroom! 😬

Hey guys,

I have been at the LSAT for about 2 months. Got a diagnostic of 156 and now average in the low 170s in my drills but honestly, I dont know how to improve my score from -2/-3 per LR section. It's like I make a new mistake every single time and I dont have an apparent question type weakness or anything as such.

If any of you have been through something similar and managed to get to -0 or -1, please let me know.

I am taking my second attempt in August but I feel like I have exhausted most of the questions and PTs available on 7sage. A lot of questions I can probably revisit because it has been a while since I first saw them, but I am worried that when I take a full length PT I will be thrown off by the familiarity of certain RC passages or LR stimuli.

What is the best way too approach studying for a retake after having gone through so much of the available content the first time around? Are there any other sites (lawhub, demon, etc) that have a solid amount of unfamiliar content?

Hey folks,

I got my June score back, and it was as I expected based on the difficulty of the exam. However, I’ve taken nearly all of the “modern” LSAT practice exams and all of the recent ones. I am kind of puzzled as to how to prepare for the real thing, because it has become very different from the last exam administration we have materials from (2020).

I was shocked by how time-consuming the questions were and the total focus on causality/phenomenon-hypothesis over anything else. Nothing I’ve ever practiced with feels remotely comparable, so I feel like all the drilling I do is on easy mode.

June exams were all new content (no reused content other than a single RC passage) which could explain the new style, but I haven’t really seen anyone else with this take, so I might just be hallucinating.

Does anyone have any advice on how to prepare for August?

My observations:

1) Parallel reasoning without formal logic to make the answer choices less strong

2) High amounts of wordy causal reasoning and phenomenon hypothesis questions with much more intense answer choices than I’ve seen before

3) A much harder time crunch on LR, but RC has remained the same

4) An emphasis on quantifiers/math style questions