Obviously, I am asking this on the 7 sage forum, and so many people will be biased when answering- particularly those who work with/for 7 sage. However, when answering, please keep your biases to a minimum. I'm wondering if the type of package we purchase influences our LSAT score, and if so, to what degree?

Hey everyone,

My LSAT analytics are showing me that my Parallel Flaw and Parallel Reasoning questions are of the highest priority. I've made some strong improvements in these two question types, but want to continue getting better at them. I'm hoping someone could shed some light on their approach to these questions. I will lay down my basic approach to them, and perhaps someone could tell me whether my approach needs work.

Parallel Flaw

For these question types I want to find the AC with the most similar flaw. Argument structure is not SO much as important (but still a consideration) as the flaw itself. So first, I check to see if I can diagram the argument in pure Lawgic. If I can do that and find a similar glaring flaw in the AC - BOOM - done. If the question doesn't translate well into logic, I try to use 'pseudo-logic' diagramming - much like the questions you encounter in PF section of the CC. If that doesn't work, I then try to to just understand and vocalize the flaw as a whole. Is the argument moving from relative evidence to absolute, is it confusing sufficient with necessary, etc etc?

These 3 approaches is essentially how I attack PF questions. What I find is however, that I'm usually unable to diagram the questions in pure Lawgic, so I either 'psuedo-diagram' or I try to vocalize the flaw. Is this a good tactic?

Parallel Reasoning

For these question types we want to find the AC with the same reasoning structure! First I try to see if the stimulus lends itself neatly into Lawgic. If that doesn't work, I attempt to use 'pseudo-logic' terms to better understand the parts of the argument and how they relate (structure). Finally, if that doesn't work, I try to vocalize the way in which the argument moves from premises to conclusion and find a similar conclusion. I find this question type easier because I can turn to the conclusion and eliminate answer choices which do not have similar conclusions.

SO, do you think my approach is good? Can I make improvements? If so, how?

Thanks, and good luck!

I went to pre-order this and it says the release date will be first week of Oct. Seriously not releasing this before the Sept exam??? Does anyone know why they would do this (besides the obvious money factor buying the other tests individually)?

I just came across the circular subway game from PT18 S1 G3. I was wondering if there are any other games similar to this one that I can practice? Anything that makes use of a circle would be very useful.

Hello All,

I just started the 7Sage course cause I'm hoping to obtain a better approach towards logical reasoning and reading comprehension. I started with Powerscore and I've read the Logical Reasoning and Games bibles from cover to cover. I've already taken the June 2007 diagnostic before. Should I take it again with 7 Sage's approach or just put in the answers from when I first took the exam? Also, with two months to go till the September exam, is it ok to just skip over to sections that I need immediate help on or start everything from the beginning?

Do you focus on finding the flaw in the argument and then matching that to an AC? Like any other flaw q, just instead of naming it you find another example of that? Or do you focus on the argument structure?

Thr biggest time sink questions for myself are the parallel questions and if i have to go through the same method for parallel flaw, i dont see how i will have enough time

So I think i'm confused at how these are different. I completely understand the definitions of valid and invalid arguments. I'm just confused at how you would be able to distinguish these two things on the LSAT. Does the question stem typically tell you it wants "invalid" or "valid" or will you just have to make a decision based off the stimulus?

Hi everyone! I'm relatively new to 7Sage and have a question about blind review. When you go through it, do you use the same copy of the test that you did your PT on, or a blank copy? And also, does anyone use highlighters or write anything down (i.e. your thought process), or do you just go through it as you would a timed section just without a time restraint?

Under my previous study plan, I was reviewing my PTs on the same copy and highlighting somewhat excessively. I feel like this maybe wasn't the best approach.

Thanks so much and happy studying :)

Last public post. I'm lazy and I don't like making new posts every week. Also, going private. If you don't show up and give us a compelling reason to think you'll be a strong contributor, unfortunately the train is departing.

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So I have printed all the LG and grouped them by type (basic linear, advanced linear, grouping etc). I am also using the spreadsheet to track my times, questions wrong and date taken. I am trying to figure out when do I repeat the same LG? Should I do the game, watch the video, and immediately redo the game? Or should I wait to redo the game until the next day? How much lag time should I have between the initial time doing the game and redoing the game after watching the video?

Thanks for the help!!

Is it possible to put a PT on a flash drive and then print it at a location of your choosing ? Thanks

Hello Beautiful People, I love to hear success stories and I would love for you to share your journey as your score moved from the 130's to the 150's. I'm currently in the mid 130's, studying full-time, and with Sage plan to move this score to the 150's. How long did it take and what did you do? Thanks!!

Hi,

I am planning to write the LSAT this September. I had taken my first diagnostic in early May and had scored 143. After preparing with the LSAT Trainer and PT 52-61 and reviewing, I have taken my second timed PT (PT 74, using the 7sage proctor) today and have scored a 157 (-14 on RC, -4 and -5 on the LRs, and -9 on the LG).

I still have PTs 62-73, 75-80, and 81 (yet to purchase) left for further PTing, and I do plan to go serially through them. I intend to score in the real LSAT in the 160-164 range. Given that I only have 8 weeks left now, in what ways can I make that jump by at least 5 points?

Thanks for any advice!

Hi everyone!

I wrote the LSAT in June and scored at 158 after PTing 165+, so I'm planning on retaking in September. I've purchased the Starter course and am going through the core curriculum now, and though I'm definitely learning lots to help me later, I was wondering if I should also be incorporating timed sections? I really don't want to waste any time, but I want to get the most out of the course!

Thanks :)

Hey guys,

I'm 25 years old and have been studying for the LSAT well over two years on and off. I've sat in the exam 3 times already and my scores have been respectively 142, 154, and 152. Even thought I've been pting in the 160s, I keep messing up on the actual test.

I live with my parents and work full-time as well. They're quite upset I haven't started law school yet. I know if I take the exam this last time I can hit my goal of low 160s. However, I'm getting a lot pressure from friends, cousins, and my parents to start law school as I've wasted a lot of time.

So, I figure you guys could give me sound advice as to if the benefits exceed the costs of waiting one more year. I do have a full-ride to t3 schools and have been accepted to bottom t1 schools like uf and even temple.

Is it necessary to identify premise, context and conclusions in Most strongly support questions? So far I don't and have done well.

Hello everyone. I'm feeling very discouraged and need some guidance.

I took a diagnostic test before starting 7sage and got a 158 and then a 160 on BR. I'm almost done with the core curriculum (save for some logic material), and I took a test to see if I had improved my score. I got the same exact score - a 158 and a 160 on BR. I'm really trying to hit 170 by September.

It's pretty clear from the tests that I'm still not strong on LG and some LR. How do you suggest improving before taking more tests? I don't want to take another test because I don't want to "waste" material. Should I print out the LR and LG sections from the two tests and I took? Should I review the practice problems on 7sage? If so, how should I review them? Do I simply just do them over and over again? I'm a bit lost on how to improve without taking more tests, but, I fear if I take more tests, I'll be wasting those tests.

Any help is appreciated!!

I can't print any of the prep tests or problem sets. Always prepares, then gives me a "print failed: print job cancelled" error.

Anyone know how to fix this?

I'm using a Chromebook, would it be better to use my parent's (crappy) Windows laptop to print?

Some LR questions have answer choices that say that an argument "assumes without providing justification that (xyz)", and some say that an argument "takes (xyz) for granted". Do these phrases mean the same thing? If not, please explain the difference(s). Thanks! :)

My question here stems from the situation presented in PT36.S3.Q26 (https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-36-section-3-question-26/)

It seems that the explanation for the right answer is that by falsifying a factor that would harm an argument if otherwise true, you are therefor strengthening it. This seems odd to me, as establishing a lack of past dissent doesn't equal some degree of current support in my opinion. It's neutral if anything.

But anyway, if we accept the aforementioned logic as fact for LSAT purposes, here are my

Does this mean that scratching off a potential weakening factor always counts, and will always be the answer for a "Most Strengthen" question?

And if so, does it happen in the reverse? Does scratching off a potential strengthener always qualify as the answer which most weakens?

Would we ever have to choose between an answer that merely hurts a weakening factor (which I see as being closer to neutral) vs. deliberately supports a strengthening factor?

Thanks ^_^

I really want to wait until my last semester grades are posted before applying, which would be mid-December. My PT score is 165, and 173 BR and I'll be taking the LSAT in September. I already have my PS, LOR, addendum, and additional essays prepared so really I could apply once the September LSAT grades are posted.

I would greatly appreciate any advice. I would like to apply in October, however, I recognize patience is a virtue. Looking mostly T-40 schools. Thanks!

I go to a Canadian university where the 4.0 scale isn't used and, rather, we receive percentages and letter grades on our official transcripts. I read on another website that when calculating the LSAC GPA in such circumstances where both percentages and letter grades are available, then only letter grades will be used. Can anyone confirm that this is in fact true?

My GPA is significantly different when I use percentages vs. grade letters to calculate it, so it's very important for me to figure this out. Thanks in advance!

I've finished the CC and have taken a few exams averaging 155. I BR in the mid 160's. I'm stuck at a plateau. I need some guidance on some hardcore prep for scoring at least a 160 on the sept LSAT. Currently making flash cards to review some core concepts and starting to practice reading comp. (Yeah, haven't given it much attention).

Logic games: averaging -5 (simple mistakes that are currently being fixed)

Logical reasoning: averaging -8 currently hung up on flaw and parallel method of reasoning questions)

Reading comp: 90% of my problem is time. -3 on BR

QUESTIONS:

What are your post CC techniques or tips?

What's the best way to really break through a 155 plateau?

Best course of action to really destroy Reading comp?

Hi everyone!

So I'm new to 7Sage and the past two times that I've studied have been at Panera and Starbucks, but both times the videos have given me trouble and they don't play. The videos will play on my cell phone and I've never had problems when at home.. so I'm not sure if it's public wifi that keeps the videos from playing but I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem or if anyone has advice for me?

Thank you!!

Hey everybody! This is my first time posting here so my apologizes if this post breaks forum etiquette.

Right now I'm considering whether or not a need a GPA addendum. From my undergraduate institution, LSAC will calculate that I have a 3.94 and within my time at my undergraduate institution I have steadily raised my GPA by small margins every semester. The problem is that I have some old DE credits from 4 years ago that will come back to haunt me and bring my LSAC calculated UGPA all the way to 3.72.

My ideal school is Georgetown having a median GPA of 3.77 and I'm still four points shy of their median LSAT (sitting in September to hopefully immediately apply ED after the scores come back.)

My question is should I write an addendum basically confessing I was a stupid teenager who didn't take life seriously and has since applied myself and steadily brought my GPA up every semester since? I'm almost worried that writing that addendum will highlight past poor grades without helping too much as I'm only .05 below their median.

What do you guys think? Additionally, if you think I should write it, should I include that since going to college I've held a 3.94 or does that not assist the addendum?