Hey guys,

To those who have been confused about the evaluation process around writing Dec (or previous LSAT) and potentially writing Feb (or future LSAT), I may have some answers for you.

Personally, I just wrote the December exam. But, I have indicated on OLSAS (Ontario Law School Application Service) that I will also be writing in Feb. I see it purely as another chance to improve my mark, whatever that may be, from the Dec. exam. If I am set on fall 2017 admissions, it won't hurt to try and get a higher mark, and let's face it, there is always room for a higher mark.

My dilemma was this: I would hate to be rejected on the basis of my Dec. score when I might be able to improve for Feb. I worried that schools may open my app prior to Feb, and base their decision solely on my Dec. score b/c my application would be considered complete. (Ottawa... you suck)

On the other hand, I would also hate to miss the opportunity to be accepted if my app is not evaluated until late Feb. That is, if the schools see that my application is "complete" but that I have indicated I will be writing in Feb, they may put my app on hold and therefore, not make any decision until early March.

WELL folks, if anyone was in this boat, which I know some of you were... I hope the following info on ONTARIO law schools helps. Here are the answers I obtained after calling the following schools:

1) Ottawa University - Application evaluated once opened. If there is a previous LSAT score on file, they will NOT consider future plans to re-write, even if indicated on OLSAS. (e.g. Feb. exam). ... BOO!

2) Western University - If you have a previous strong mark and they are happy with the rest of your app, they will not wait until Feb. Admission will be offered. If mark on file not strong, they will hold off and re-evaluate once Feb. mark comes in.

3) Osgoode Hall - Same as above. If you have a previous strong mark and they are happy with the rest of your app, they will not wait until Feb. Admission will be offered. If mark on file not strong, they will hold off and re-evaluate once Feb. mark comes in.

4) Queens - Left emails, voicemails. Away for holidays.

*Update* - "We will not decline applicants, based on LSAT, until after the February results. If a new score is posted that make you competitive, you will be considered then."

5) UofT - Left emails, voicemails. Away for holidays.

*Update* - Application put on HOLD if indicated on OLSAS that you are writing at a later date.

6) Windsor - Left email. --- *EDIT* @LSAT04164 has advised Windsor does not accept Feb scores. December last date accepted.

*Did not apply to Thunder Bay.

Hi all-

7sage newbie here and plan on sitting for the June LSAT. I will purchase my 7sage bundle within the next week or two and start studying January 9th. Have not yet taken a diagnostic test yet to see where I am in that respect. Nonetheless, still in school, will be working approximately 20-ish hours a week at the law firm I work at, in addition to 12 units at school (trying to take a lighter semester). Was originally planning on going for the Ultimate+, but once I utilized the study schedule, I was intimidated by the amount of hours per week it calls for. Looking for advice on whether I should just hold on for the most stressful next 6 months of my life and do Ultimate+ or any other thoughts on the matter at hand. Thanks in advance!

I recently received my academic summary report from LSAC, and it seems that LSAC counted a zero-credit course that I failed (long story) into my grade. Is this intentional? If so, how do they factor it in? If not, how can I get this corrected?

Thanks 7Sage!

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Alright, so a fun topic here but do any of you guys have tattoos? A self promise I made was that I would get my first the moment I made it to law school, and my last when I graduated. Anyway, I assume that the law profession could care less about tattoos so long as you have them in places where they are hidden (back, shoulder, chest, etc). Is that standard practice? Do any of you guys have any that are not in places where they are perfectly hidden?

Also, you guys can get the mocking out of the way, I want to get the "justice is blind" tattoo either on my shoulder or back.

The question above, and do law schools care if you have an absence? I had mine three years ago.

Also, how often do tests cycle out? My last test score was in February of 2013 and December of 2012 was my absence. Am I clear and have three retakes?

I just finished a rough draft of my personal statement. Curious if anyone would be willing to look it over and give me some critique. Thank you!

I start to use POE on timed section on RC. I get most choices wrong(haven't done RC for a long time).I really speed up when I use POE. Is that normal at early stage? I previously use POE on some LRs. I only finish 20% of the CC(LOL). I take Manhattan online course , which is intensive. Some of their RC methods are useful. I know it's hard to apply top 20 law school with a 170+ LSAT with my extremely low GPA. Areas and reputation is important for an international job seeker like me. I consider to practice in HK and US. I would retake in June(in U.S. or Hong Kong) since my OPT(internship for international student) is approaching. I want to know what stage I was in even though Feb LSAT is unsupported by many folks.

My basic strategy is to drill LGs while identify weak type of LRs. I time each RC passage for 8 minutes. I hope that I can be ready for PT in mid-January(at least 5). Any suggestion would be appreciated.

I enjoy doing LSAT while it brings mental challenge/pains. I'm lucky to have parent's support and they came to Seattle for Christmas and new year. I like 7sage community.

Anyway, happy Holiday!!

Hey 7sagers,

So I took the December LSAT and it went okay, but I know I probably didn't reach my goal. I'm registered for February, took a week or so off and have been studying again now. So my 7sage membership was almost up and I decided to upgrade to Ultimate. Ultimate is amazing, I'm happy with my decision the problem sets are awesome. I was done all the CC before but now that I have ultimate I'm only 65% done and have to finish the new PSs. I've been working on them but of course they're time consuming to do and properly BR, so I haven't been able to do any new prep tests. What do you guys think I should do...prep test while still completing the new PSs, or finish them all first then start my prep tests again. It's almost January! Where has the time gone I'm starting to panic a little right now. Any advice would be appreciated!

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Happy Holidays!

We're on break for this Saturday December, 24th and so we'll be doing PT 53 next week.

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So I just finished the Nicole Hopkins webinar on RC and felt like a lot of it made sense. But as I try to work through an RC passage on my own using her method, I'm finding that so much seems unclear. I decided to use the first passage of my most recent PT (PT54). Below is a run down of what I annotated and where I ran into problems. I'm hoping I can figure this method out because it seems helpful, but ultimately the method so far seems to leave me with more questions than answers. If I constantly need to second guess and wonder if I'm correctly annotating everything then I will only be wasting time that I could otherwise be using to answer questions.

So the first thing I annotate is the very first word of the passage which is "The Internet". I box and tail the "The internet" with the tail being the explanation of what the internet is in order to show it's a what. Next, I square "Internet Users" on line 3 to show who. Here is where I find my first unknown. Do I need to [bracket] the "throughout the world" found on line 4 to show a where? Next I bracket line 5's "national and other political borders" because borders are technically places. Not totally sure if that should be bracketed. Finally the last thing I annotate in paragraph one is the "borders" found on the last line of the paragraph line 9. I bracket this once again because borders are technically places.

The first sentence of paragraph 2 seems like it should have some type of annotation but I can't decide so I move on to line 12 where I circle "presupposes" to indicate when. On line 13 I carrot "But" to show a pivot. "Borders" on line 15 gets a bracket again. Next on line 16 I square "government" to signify who. The next annotation comes on line 19 where I carrot the "But". That is the last annotation I give for paragraph two even though it feels like I've missed something between line 20 and 29.

Paragraph 3 opens with a box and tail around "legal domain" and the words that follow to indicate a what. On line 33 I bracket "country" again to show where but I feel unsure if this is right. This is done again with "country" on line 34. Line 39 receives a carrot to indicate a pivot with the word "but". Now here is where I get really confused. Line 43 contains the word "Norway". Does this receive a bracket to indicate where or does this receive a box because we're talking about Norway as an actor or agent? I have the same issue with "Brazil" on line 44 and 45. Line 45 receives a Q in the margin to indicate the question asked. Line 48 receives a carrot to indicate the pivot word "otherwise". "Country" on line 49 receives yet another bracket to show where but again I am unsure of this being correct.

Paragraph 4's first annotation comes on line 53 and 54 where I box "electronic communication" and underline what follows to indicate what electronic communication is. "French" on line 57 gets squared in order to indicate a who and then Canada and Japan both receive brackets to on line 59 to indicate where. Lastly I put a Q in the margins of line 59 so that I can indicate a question was asked.

When I had finished all of this I was unsure if I did things correctly and felt that I definitely missed things. I decided to go to the first question and only then did I realize that I was so focused on annotating that I didn't really read the passage. Because I read looking for things to annotation, I ended up having no idea what I actually had just read. Is there a resource, link, or place where I can view properly annotated passages done by others? I don't want to give up on this method after one try but I just don't see how I could annotate everything correctly in under 4 minutes.

I've heard it's a must watch but for some reason I can't find it on the webinar page

Would anyone like to go over my PS? In my final draft, looking to make the last couple of adjustments if needed

So I had my first take of the LSAT in December, after studying pretty much every day while working full-time for the 4 months prior. I obviously haven't received my score yet, but I did poorly enough on the logic games that I know I didn't hit my target score (173+), so I decided to delay my applications a year and retake in June. I didn't quite reach the point of full burnout, but I definitely needed some time off. My question: how long do I wait before jumping back into a study schedule?

I can't take the February test because I'm probably going to be traveling for work that month, but I do worry that a full 6 months of dedicated studying on top of what I've already done will lead to severe burnout unless I strategize properly. Any advice?

I got the most unexpected and awesome call from a Palo Alto area code yesterday, and it's in large part because of the people who built this site and all those who have made this such a wonderful community. My diagnostic score was a 154. Believe in yourself, be disciplined, and trust in the process. Oh, and watch all of JY's LG videos ;)

So on the side menu of the app there are logic game videos that e plain the questions and gives the answers. But where do you get the questions from? I see they are from a prep test but what prep test?

Hey again everyone!

I was wondering what the biggest difference was between older and newer/more recent PT's? Which are more difficult? Are there certain sections that are considerably different? I have pretty much decided to postpone the February LSAT once again, but I really think I should be ready to go by June.

Any tips or suggestions would be gladly accepted, thank you all!

I just finished the Assumptions and Weakening lessons. I feel like I'm following the subject matter and doing well on the questions, but sometimes get confused when I read everyone's comments and they split hairs about the difference between what is the premise and what is support. Are the terms not interchangeable? I understand the basic concept of the premise supporting the conclusion, but feel like maybe I'm missing something. Can someone explain the difference to me?

If you've taken two LSAT exams back to back, did you see a increase or decrease in your score? By how many points? Is there an average number of points that repeat LSAT takers gain or lose?

Hi,

I am beyond confused on one of the logic games

Each of exactly six doctors- Juarez, Kudrow, Longtree, Nance, Onawa, and Palermo is at exactly one of two clinics: Souderton or Randsborough. The following conditions must be satisfied:

Kudrow is at Randsborough if Juarez is at Souderton

Onawa is at Souderton if Juarez is at Randsborough

If Longtree is at Souderton then both Nance and Palerno are at Randsborough

If Nance is at Randsborough, then so is Onawa

If Palerno is at Randsborough, then both Kudrow and Onawa are at Souderton

So @"J.Y. Ping" solved it one way

L-> /N --> /O --> J --> /K --> P

--> /P

In order to get rid of the contradiction with the P's he negated /L and got

/N-->/O --> J--> /K--> P

However, I decided to find the contrapositive of the first statement and got

/P--> K--> /J --> O --> N --> /L

P ---> /L

But I have no idea how to remove the contradicting P's because L is already negated. I'm so confused regarding what to do next?

I feel like I'm missing a basic logic concept but I tried going back to the material and I still dont get it.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-34-section-4-game-4/

I was just wondering if anyone has any general information on spring starts in law school. I've been advised by a couple lawyers that it's always a viable option if for some reason a normal Fall start couldn't work, but I'd like to know if the community has anything better. I obviously would rather start in the Fall, but I'm weighing all my options and am making sure I have more than just a plan B if needed, so any pros/cons, concrete information would be awesome. Thanks in advance!

It's about to negate the sufficient condition, right? any example will be appreciated.

Recently I have been having a lot of success during exercises for LR. This, to me, is a miracle since it was my weakness and what hampered me from breaking the stubborn plateau I was in. Anyway, I have found that actually drawing out LR passages when needed (SA, MBT, MBF, PSA, INF,etc) has really helped me break through some of the toughest questions. I still have issues with certain questions, obviously, but I can see a light at the end of the LR tunnel specifically because I am beginning to visualize what is occurring in the passage.

With that said, the margins we have for drawing on the exam are small, and I know I will be cutting it close if I try to visualize too much. My assumption is that, per each LR section, there are around 10-12 questions that are easily solved via visualization ( SA, MBT, MBF, etc, etc) and the drawing and analysis normally gives me an answer time of 1 minute to 2:15 depending on the difficulty of the question.

Do you guys waste time drawing and visualizing things on paper? Or have you gotten to a test taking point where visualization is mental? I would, obviously, prefer that method but am not sure I can get my brain to see things that way. I have always been a "write it down or draw it out" type of learner.

Let's keep our heads in the game by taking a moment to acknowledge our LSAT victories (small or large)!

I'll get the ball rolling:

1) I've gotten a bit faster at LG

2) I've identified areas to improve

3) I experience less anxiety during timed conditions

I am getting in a bit of a groove in terms of studying for this thing. I am finally picking off answers and my mind is growing to understand sentence structure as well as logic structure. With that said, I have had a pretty crazy study schedule, and am only going to afford around 12 PT's until the big kahuna in February.

February is going to be my first LSAT take, and if my current grasp of things continues, I think I may actually have something going (crossing fingers, because I am not testing but just doing random exercises and studying the curriculum intensely). OBviously, if I mess up, I am going to retake in June and September if necessary.

With that said, I will obviously know where I could be come the first few I take and BR. However, I want to make sure I have a grasp of exams that you guys feel were most challenging or best suited to prepare me for the current exam.

Which 12 would you pick?