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I am not sure why answer choice D in question 68 section 3 of PT 68 is incorrect. Here is an explanation for why I think D can be considered the correct answer.

I made 3 assumptions about parallel reasoning questions which I would like to explain with aid of the following (flawed) reference argument:

Premises: 1. A --> B

2. A --> C

Conclusion: B -->C

Assumption 1) Contrapositives are permitted and do not change the structure of parallel reasoning question. For example, the following argument would be considered parallel to the reference argument:

Premises: 1. not B --> not A (this is a contrapositive of A --> B)

2. A --> C

Conclusion: not C --> not B (this is a contrapositive of B --> C)

Assumption 2) Swapping a given variable with its negation at every single occurrence of the said variable does not change the structure of the argument. This is because any variable can be redefined to be the negated version of its original definition. For instance, instead of defining D = dog, we can define D = not dog and then swap every single occurrence of D and not D in the argument without affecting its structure.

For example, the following would be considered parallel to the argument stated above (in assumption #1) and thus, by extension, also to the reference argument:

Premises: 1. not B --> A

2. not A --> not C

Conclusion: C --> not B

Note that I swapped A and not A as well as C and not C from the example in assumption #1.

3) The positioning of the premises is irrelevant to the structure of the argument and thus swapping them is permissible. For instance, the following argument would be considered parallel to the reference argument:

Premises: 1. A --> C

2. A --> B

Conclusion: B --> C

I just swapped premises 1 and 2 from the reference argument.

Now, onto the question. Here is how I traced out the argument in the stimulus:

Premises: 1. balcony --> fireplace

2. balcony --> no 1-bedroom

Conclusion: 1-bedroom ---> no fireplace

Replacing words with symbols in the above argument:

Premises: 1. A --> B

2. A --> no C

Conclusion: C ---> no B

Swap C and no C (assumption #2):

Premises: 1. A --> B

2. A --> C

Conclusion: no C ---> no B

Take contrapositive of conclusion (assumption #1):

Premises: 1. A --> B

2. A --> C

Conclusion: B --> C (contrapositive of no C ---> no B)

Analysis of flaw: one necessary condition leads to another necessary condition. I am going to look for parallel of this in the answer choice.

Now, onto answer choice D. Here is how I traced out the argument in the answer choice:

Premises: 1. cat --> no dog

2. dog --> no fish

Conclusion: cat ---> fish

Take contrapositive of premise #1 and conclusion (assumption #1):

Premises: 1. dog --> no cat (contrapositive of cat --> no dog)

2. dog --> no fish

Conclusion: no fish ---> no cat (contrapositive of cat --> fish)

Swap premises #1 and #2 (assumption #3):

Premises: 1. dog --> no fish

2. dog --> no cat

Conclusion: no fish ---> no cat

Change to symbols:

Premises: 1. A --> no B

2. A --> no C

Conclusion: no B ---> no C

Swap B with no B and C with no C (assumption #2):

Premises: 1. A --> B

2. A --> C

Conclusion: B ---> C

Eureka!!! Exact same structure as the stimulus.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-68-section-3-question-24/

So i will be getting my preptest 79 november 28 or 29. what should i do with this preptest before the december lsat? it will only be a few days before the real deal. should i just do a blind review and try the Logic games timed? any advice will be appreciated. I'm sure there are others with this predicament.

I just wanted to see how you guys view all of the elements of the application. I know the personal statement is the most important, but how do you guys see the other elements we can add to the applications? Are all of you writing those? Will they push students over the top or are they kind of moot points?

Basically, are they necessary, and will schools look down on you if you don't use them?

Hi

So on LG I meet this kind of rule sometimes

A---B→C---D "If A is before B, then C is before D"

Is this actually bi-conditional in sinmple sequence game?

For grouping sequence game, it may not be necessary true, but for simple sequece game there is only either before or after something, so...

By the way we cannot delete our threads right?

I wonder what if we solve the question before get any replies...do not want to bother other ppl in that case :(

I'll just leave this here...

http://mentalfloss.com/article/59994/11-legal-cases-crazy-names

I just took sec 1 of pt79. Has anyone else? I did awful!! My score was much lower than most of my LR sections. I am worried.

Hi All,

So the stimulus in #20 reads,

"If one does not criticize a form of behavior in oneself or vow to stop it, then one should not criticize that form of behavior in another."

Would this sentence translate to

1. ~Criticize one's own behaviour AND ~Vow to stop it --> ~ Criticize other's behavior or

2. ~Criticize one's own behaviour OR ~ Vow to stop it --> ~ Criticize other's behavor?

I initially thought that the latter was the case but not sure about it anymore... Any feedback will be greatly appreciated!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-77-section-2-question-20/

I agree it's easier to see the questions with game elements as initials rather than as the (often bizarre) spelled-out names that appear on the test. But as time is my big hurdle, I'm skeptical that the time it takes to rewrite the questions is worth it. As best I can tell by introspection it takes me little time to do the mental translation. Does anyone want to make an argument that I ought to rewrite the questions?

Hi All,

So I'm still struggling to identify exactly when certain arguments could be strengthened or weakened by the total number of samples (or any sort of number play for that matter) and when they cannot be. I remember seeing a few questions in the past where certain group was seeing a particular pattern or a phenomenon while the other group didn't and the discrepancy was due to some problems related to the size of the sample in one group (either their total number of participants were not counted properly, thereby inflating the trend) etc.

PT 77 Section 2 #19: A recent study examined the daytime and nighttime activity patterns of two populations of tree-dwelling lemurs - the first living in a rain forest, where tree canopy cover is consistent year0round, and the second living in a deciduous forest, where many trees lose their leaves during the winter months. Both groups of lemurs were found to be more nocturnal during winter months than they were the rest of the year. However, the winter increase in nocturnal activity was significantly more pronounced for the population living in the deciduous forest than it was for the population living in the forest.

For the question above, none of the answer choices really stood out for me initially and when I looked through them again, I noticed how the AC (D) was talking about the bird population in these forests are different, in fact, the lemur population in the rain forest is twice the size of the population in the deciduous forest... I thought that if that's the case, couldn't it be possible that the nocturnal activity looks more pronounced in the deciduous forest even though the two forests had the same number of birds that are both just as active at night? The correct answer turned out to be (B) which talked about the high-flying bird predators who hunt their prey during daylight...

So my question is, how are we supposed to know when these numbers actually come in play and exactly what the question means in this case - whether there are more % of these birds in each forest (in which case the population size matters) or it could be that the entire bird population is following a certain trend?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-77-section-2-question-19/

If I took my first LSAT in June 2015 and decided to take it twice after, when is the next test date after the 2-year period that I could take it? Is it June 2017 or October 2017?

Hi everyone:)

I probably wouldn't be comfortable posting this in any other forum but....everyone in here has been so kind to me thus far so, I figure I can be a little annoying haha!! In my previous post I mentioned that i'm not done my UG but I suspect my GPA should be about 3.8-3.85. I'm not exactly a natural at the LSAT however (137 diagnostic lol). I find myself being someone who tends to easily get frustrated with intellectual work sometimes. I always give it my all nonetheless and I like to think I do good work, but because studying for the LSAT will presumably be frustration beyond frustration (at times anyways), does anyone have any advice on how to manage the frustration and discouragement that I assume comes with months of studying for something and only seeing gradual improvement haha?

Thanks everyone!

Why is (E) wrong, can't seem to wrap my head around it. It seems to be the contrapositive of the last sentence.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-54-section-2-question-25/

My booklet just came in today! Looks like it has a very tough curve. Anyone take it as a PT yet? If so, how did it go?

This is my weakest Question Type, and although I have practiced memorizing all 20 flaws I have trouble recognizing them on the LSAT because I am often stuck between two answer choices. What should I do? What was your method or how do you approach this QT in terms of improvement?

Hi,

I am writing in December and my goal is to get 167/8. For people who got 167/8 on the test day, what was your average score like? :)

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Those of you reading this don't take until you are ready or else you will end up like me.

Anyways is there any material about advice tips etc. I know the basic stuff (3 times 2 year period etc.) so yeah any help of information would be great! thanks fam.

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I assume there are thousands of law school students, and lawyers who have been caught doing some silly stuff in college. I got an underage drinking ticket when I was 20, and that is the only stain on my record. From the best of my recollection, it is not on my record. Should I still admit to this in my application? Will it impact my chances if I do?

I am writing this post because I wished someone told it to me one year ago. This post is to all those 7Sagers who are considering to sign up for the course but they are not sure 7Sage worth it or not. I want to say do not hesitate, your time is the most precious asset you have in your LSAT prep and it is limited. 7Sage explains fundamentals concepts in a very understandable and simple way and do not try to make concepts more complicated than they are. I try to explain it using my personal experience.

I was watching an LG game explanation for the second time, going through the game after 11 months and it hit me why 7Sage is superior to many of other courses out there when J.Y explained not both rule in less than a minute. I remember more than one year ago when for the first time I encounter the concept of not both rule in one of Kaplan LSAT preparation books. Kaplan explanation was correct but it was so long and confusing that the one concept itself convinced me to sign up for their in person course. Fortunately for me they did not have any in-person course in my city which forced me to search for online course that lead me to compare them with 7Sage and give 7Sage a shot .

Some of the courses out their try make concepts complicated in their self study books with the primary goal of sign you up for their over priced in person courses, give 7Sage a shot before signing up for that overpriced in person course.

Please understand this is my personal opinion as someone who started below 150s and improved my prep score more than 16 points in a year thanks to 7Sage and its helpful community.

Hi guys, you have all been so helpful thus far. I am only a senior in college and have realized thanks to these forums and the Thinking LSAT podcast that I should not rush into law school. I am not completely sure that law is for me, and have realized that law school will always be there. I am currently looking for jobs and was wondering how you go about finding a job as a legal assistant/intern? My bachelors degree will be in Finance. I would ideally like to work in Boston. I have heard time and time again that this is a good way to figure out if law is for you. Would you all agree?

Please feel free to be completely honest with me, what advice would you give your 21 year old self?

Hello!

For almost every summer, I have worked as an instructor at private education organization in my country, teaching SAT, essay writing in English, AP courses, etc.

The primary reason was to earn some part of my tuition and living expenses, though I genuinely enjoyed teaching students.

Should I put this work experience on my resume?

I am not sure how law school sees such "private" tutoring.

Really confused by this question, I chose the right answer and I can see how it is correct, but is it just me or is this very different than the mechanical SA questions we are used to seeing? Is this common in the modern LSAT?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-76-section-4-question-14/

I got this question correct but really don't know why. I look at the answers and they just look like gibberish. I try to break the words down and make the answer sound similar, but I still have no clue what most those answers are saying. I went through the lessons on weakening questions but it didn't seem to help for this type of super wordy question at all. Anyone else struggle with the real wordy weaken questions? Any tips or advice?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-22-section-4-question-21/

Is there a reason why there is no set length requirements in applications this year?

Generally speaking, it should be 500 words, correct?

Also, is double space a bad idea?