I began college as a part-time student while working full-time; I took a few distance ed (online) classes through a community college in another part of the state. I eventually moved states and started attending another community college, which I attended for about a year part-time. I then transferred to my current university, where I have been a full-time student for 2 years (graduating in December). Overall, it'll have taken me 4 years to complete college, though a substantial chunk of that was part-time study.

Does this warrant an addendum? They'll see three undergrad institutions' transcripts, and I don't want them to simply think I'm lazy or something for going to school part-time. My grades were excellent at all three, so I'm not trying to make excuses there.

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/advanced-andor-in-necessary-conditions/

I'm having trouble understanding this lesson.

A--> B or C

Why can't "OR" in the necessary mean both? unless otherwise indicated as "not both"

Since its a necessary condition would it not mean that it is necessary for one of them to happen/be triggered but could it not also be the case that B and C happen?

A--> B and C

Similarly for "AND"

I don't understand why AND can split the arrow... if A --> B and C... doesn't this mean that it is necessary for both B AND C to be triggered? Because the contrapositive means if not B or not C then not A... If we say A --> B and A--> C are we saying that one of them could happen without the other and the statement will still be true.. but if this was the case why can't we say or?

Hello, everyone.

I've done the core curriculum and am (trying) to solve all the LG problems from PT 1-70 but things are not looking up.

I've done 40 PTs so far. This is what usually happens. First, I will try to solve the problems on my own. I will probably get the sequencing and simple in-out games and make all the inferences. On a good PT, three sets with maybe 4-5 wrong. On a particularly bad one I might get two or even one set properly done, missing up to two digits. The latter has been happening a lot and on the September LSAT, I did not fare well on this section and had to randomly guess for about twelve of the questions.

I understand JY's explanations and they have been very helpful. But are you supposedly to go over EVERY single game set with explanations? For me, that seems to be the reality. And even with 40 PTs down, I am not making the leap I had been hoping for.

The Games are holding me back and I have not done anything else for some time. It's making me really depressed, guys. I hope to hear some words of wisdom. Thanks and have a nice one.

Hiya!

Newbie 7sager (?) and first-time poster here. My question is regarding GPA addenda. The general advice, I see, is to write one to explain an upward or downward trend in one's GPA. What happens if one's GPA was all over the place? I was an Econ and Math major. I ended up hating Economics, and my grades in my Econ courses reflect that. I loved Math, and those courses, for the most past, saved my GPA (3.42). How do you recommend I go about explaining this in my addendum? Should I even bother with an addendum at all?

Hi all,

I already all my transcripts in, including local community college courses I took for dual HS/college credit in high school. my main concern is--I don't really want admissions people to think I went to community college (because then it looks like it took me 6 years to graduate), but that's kind of what it looks like on my academic summary report (I think). Will they definitely know those were high school classes? I can't imagine it's worth writing in an addendum, but I do hope it's somehow clear.

Curious if anyone else has been in this same boat. Thank you!

Just had a question regarding writing personal statements and other essays. Any insight from others would be appreciated!

@"David.Busis" also if you have any time/interest to add thoughts.

I'm in the final stages of writing my applications for here in Canada, and I notice that some schools have word limits for their personal statements and optional essays. University of Toronto and Western for example have very clear-cut word count limits and topics to focus on.

There are other schools though that don't offer any word length limit that I can see. I'm struggling with the latter because I don't know how long to make the essay. I'm especially struggling with this for my Osgoode application because they have SOOO many factors that they say to include or potentially include in the personal statement, but no word limit. Should I err on the side of doing a shorter essay? or does the lack of word limit mean they want it to be super long? Based on all the factors they say could/should be included, I could make it a 10 page essay.

Thanks for any thoughts!

Hello everyone,

So I should be finished the CC by next Tuesday. After that I was going to drill all of the LR and LG as a refresher before I took my first PT. Is anyone willing to help me make a schedule so that I drill and PT effectively for the December LSAT? I am hoping to at least PT 4 times before the actual test, and I'm focused more on quality PT'ing over quantity.

I have encountered certain questions where often means "Some". I had made a note about it until I came across PT37 S2 Q18 where in answer choice C says " often sacrificed" and it was eliminated because it said often based on one example.

I'd love an explanation for this question along with how to deal with "Often"

Thanks in advance!

how many games should it take?

Hi all.

This is an intentionally short and to-the-point discussion post. I want as much input and insight as I can gain and don't want to turn away any potential comments with a huge long prompt. So please forgive my lack of details.

Things were going so well. I crushed my first prep test, skated through introduction to logic and strengthening questions. I felt good about my LSAT studies and had confidence. Until I started the Validity and Must Be True Questions section. My progress immediately halted. The concepts stopped sticking and I have begun to start losing the confidence and swagger I once had. Specifically, the Valid Argument Forms 1-9 might as well be Greek to me. I have trouble understanding why I need to keep nine fucking argument forms in my head. They appear to have only subtle differences and I don't see how memorizing those details could help increase my LSAT score.

I just want to get back to studying LSAT questions and study things that are directly applicable to the exam.

Now, let's be real. It isn't the awesome service of 7Sage that is discouraging me. I have been really exhausting myself trying to study every minute I have available. Additionally, I have almost completely stopped exercising and my sleep has been disrupted with stress about the exam. I realize that these lifestyle factors play a large part in my academic productivity and I am addressing them. But in the meantime, somebody - ANYBODY - please let me know how I can survive validity/invalidity sections.

Help me! Anyone! I'm losing my fucking mind!

Thanks for feedback!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-64-section-3-question-26/

I got this question right during the PT by POE (A-B reverses necessary and sufficient terms, ACD all use most-statements) but in BR I really had to labor over the logic. It in fact took several sessions to feel good about my interpretation. However, my translation differs slightly from JY due to the presence of nested terms so I'm curious what ya'll think about it.

expect benefits outweigh cost → (acquire info → R)

Therefore

acquire info → R

This appears to be the most basic logical structure in the book. A→B, therefore B. We need A. But the nested terms muddy the waters a bit. We need to conclude R which is nested within the necessary condition. Because of the odd form, there are more ways of doing that than just A→B. But, most importantly, we can't conclude R if one expects the "benefits outweigh the cost".

This is really where I had my difficult. the easiest correct AC would have just said "The benefits never outweigh the cost". However, what they gave us was

acquire info → expect benefits outweigh cost

That results in a perfectly valid but unusual form. Our final chain looks like

expect benefits outweigh cost ↔ acquire info → R

"Consumers who do not bother to acquire this info are acting rationally". We can safely say that now because consumers who don't bother to acquire this info also don't expect the benefits to outweigh the costs.

So I haven't experienced burnout yet and I've been pushing myself hours and hours and hours to reach my limit of studying until I can't. I notice that my competitive nature and the fact that I haven't hit my projected score has overridden potential burnout. I'm sure I will burnout soon, but I'm liking that my motivation is currently there. Hopefully it is because I'm aiming higher each time.

Hoping for an extremely productive 2 months before the test.

Need that 10 point jump!

I got credit from a local college in high school and it's been a hassle getting them to send the transcript and LSAC form (they don't do it electronically). They said they sent it on September 29th and I'm wondering how long it typically takes for LSAC to process transcripts during this time of year.

BR is still slightly confusing in the sense that I'm not sure if the first time around (when I'm doing question sets) if I'm supposed to be timing myself. Or am I supposed to take as much time as I can since I'm still in the CC stage? I'm currently doing my Question sets timed and then doing BR after.

Is it less than beneficial to time yourself so early when you're just learning concepts? I don't quite know how to approach this?

Why so confusing?? ?

Any idea when PT82 will become available for purchase? How soon after that can we expect explanations from 7Sage? Might this happen before the December test date?

So when do we think grey day will be? Will there be any delays with the hurricanes? Any idea?

Just wanted to give some hope for other people. Today I took my first timed PT in about a month (I've already FP LG and am now drilling LR). A month ago I got a 161; today - 170! It was PT59, which as far as I know may be the easiest PT ever and my score may drop back down to 160 next week.

Fool proofing works. I got a -1 on LG (granted, there were no odd ones). I'm now going to drill LR even harder. Somehow I have to get my RC up, so if you have any advice please share! I'm shooting for a 170+ in December, and with two months to go it's looking like I might actually have a decent shot.

Currently, I am taking graduate level courses as a non-degree seeking student. Should I add this school to my list on the LSAC website? Also, should I include the school on my resume? I feel like it could help with my application, any advice is much appreciated!

Hi everyone, have any of you subscribed to Law School Transparency Pro (LST Pro)? Is it worth $75?

https://www.lstreports.com/pro/

Can anyone recommend the Manhattan Prep LR for supplementary material? I've been through the CC already and I am wondering if the Manhattan Prep LR will complement/reinforce what was taught in the CC. Also factoring in that I am signed up for the December test giving me about 8 weeks till then. I am in the PT phase and I just want to gauge what you all think about this and if it is even worth it at this point. Thanks!

Hello Folks,

I posted this in the powerscore forum as well, but it looks a little dead over there. I was hoping I might be able to pick someone's brain about a particular question.

Hello everyone,

I'm working on conditional reasoning. Overall, I find using my intuition works 80% of the time, but sometimes I'm going to need to use the techniques discuss in Powerscore Logical Reasoning Bible Chapter 6 in order to maximize my score.

So, my question stems from question 2 of chapter 6 on page 171. The question is:

Admin Edit: Please don't post LSAT materials. LSAC owns a copyright on this and posting is a violation of the copyright. For reference, I believe this is from PT 31 Section 3 Number 22.

So, when I use my intuition, I get answer E. But I am practicing my conditional reasoning, and I am not able to get that answer.

I managed to get the following:

NEOR: Nucleomorph is the remains of an engulfed organism's nucleus

SVG: Single version of the gene

(I use slashed /// in order to designate "not")

/NEOR ------> SVG

and the contrapositive

/SVG -------> NEOR

Which, in the book is generally correct. However, the book then suggests that because:

Premise 1: /NEOR --------> SVG (I understand this as noted above)

Premise 2: /SVG

Conclusion: NEOR

And then somehow, to my bafflment, they come up with the statement that:

SVG ------> /NEOR (This is neither the contrapositive or the replication of the original conditional reasoning as it appears in the last sentence. In fact, it simply looks like a Mistaken Reveral to me.)

I am NOT understanding how they build this conditional reasoning argument. Indeed, my only clue is that maybe a premise=sufficient condition and that a conclusion=necessary condition that maybe this is how they ended up doing it? But my searches online don't show this to be true.

Additionally, answer choice E does not have any conditional indicators, making it difficult to decide what is the necessary and sufficient condition for choosing your answer. Are there any resources out there that help with doing this? Could I ask anyone for a little help? Thanks a tonne!!!

I'm 70% complete with the CC and on the LG section. Should I use these lessons to just learn Logic Games or should I start fool proofing the practice problems JY has listed in the lessons now? For some reason I got the impression that Fool Proofing should be saved for after the CC is completed and when you start PT-ing...

Hey everyone,

I was wondering if there is any interest out there to also blind review the hardest RC passage together each time we do a PT . Maybe we can set aside one separate day to do this. On previous RC tutoring sessions I have noticed blind reviewing RC to take at most 2 hours. I am working on seeing what time we can do this by seeing openings on 7sage calendar. I hope to find an opening on Sunday.

Let me know if there is any interest out there to do this.

UPDATE:

Thanks for all the interest. I went ahead and scheduled the blind review RC meetings for every Sunday at 7 pm. Please treat this blind review call the same as our LR calls by not checking your answers before hand. Also, please have a clean copy of the section and a pencil with you. We will first read the passage together and do low-high resolution summaries and then do the questions under time before going over them as a group.

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Hello all. Perhaps this was a question that was touched upon in the recent resume webinar, which I wasn't able to attend (it didn't begin until 1 am here in Iceland) BUT I thought maybe y'all could give me some guidance. I am wondering how/if it's appropriate or normal to include information about past research projects you've done on a resume (or somewhere else in the application process). While the work I did in undergrad was not law related at all, it was published in an undergraduate research journal. And I am currently working on an international law-related thesis-type paper for my grad program. I genuinely want to share with admissions committees what I've been working on because it's really interesting to me, not just because I'm looking for another way of padding my application. This is more true for my grad level writing than undergrad however. So I was just wondering if the best place to do this would be incorporating it into my personal statement? Or am I missing something?