Hi there! Long-time lurker finally posting on the forums for the first time. For what it's worth, I really enjoy the community and how helpful all of you seem to be! So, you're awesome and keep doing you!

I took the LSAT for the first time in September after using 7sage for about 6 months or so. I scored a 157 which is below my diagnostic significantly (168). Games really sunk my ship which didn't surprise me since, when I sat for the test, the games section seemed unusually difficult compared to what I was used to from this course. I'm sure if I prepared longer, I would've performed much better. This course really has been a godsend, though.

At any rate, my target schools are Georgia State, Alabama, University of Mississippi, (I'm from MS, am in college here, and have the connections that would make that a workable option) and UGA. I'm a senior studying Biochemistry and Molecular Biology and I have a 3.72 GPA with work experience in a legal setting as well as a few research laboratories (my field of interest is IP if that's worth anything). I have an enormous amount of faith in my résumé and my letters of recommendation which come from professors, bosses, and mixtures of the two. So, my question is, realistically, what are my chances at these aforementioned schools? I'm currently planning on prepping and sitting again in December, but if this is somehow (ugh) the zenith of my LSAT ability (for this cycle, which I'm adamant about) could I get in? Georgia State and Alabama would be my top 2, the others are all roughly equal in my eyes with a lean towards UofMS simply because of my network.

Thank you in advance for any help or guidance you may offer! I assure you I'm open to anything you have to say!

Hello everyone; I'm back!

Short version - I work full time, and then have other things in my life which can't be compromised or ignored. I spend about 10 hours a week on average studying for the LSAT. I should be going for at least 14, but finding that extra four hours is hard enough when the 10 hours is already a battle. At the latest, I'd like to take the December 2017 LSAT. The September LSAT is my goal, but I'll postpone if I still show reasonable improvements. My analytics show where I need to catch up to be up to par with the rest of 7Sage, and I agree that my analytics are accurate representations of my strengths and weaknesses at the moment. With my limited schedule, would it be better for me to stay on target with the Core and then do the PTs, or focus on the Analytics. There are disadvantages of both. Completing the entire core first may result in me wasting time on areas I'm already good with when I could have been taking more PTs and focusing on my weaker areas. The focus on Analytics results in burning through more tests for minor victories.

Also, I'd like to tell everyone that I'm back, and to thank you for talking me out of the June 2016 LSAT. I was going to start studying again, but then I got hit by a truck. I got out of physical therapy a month ago, and that's when I enrolled into 7Sage.

Hello Everyone! Before I start, I want to say sorry to all of you who have scored below your target. I have not taken my exam yet but I've read some posts of people scoring WAY BELOW their PTs and BRs scores. Like almost 10 points. It's very discouraging reading some posts about how hard people have worked, only to still fall short. What do you guys think?

I understand nerves and anxiety on test day can impact your score, but a 10 point impact? I know there's a 5 point range, and that's what you should expect. Can it also be that during certain months the tests are harder than others? Or maybe a new question that LSAC has tried? What are your thoughts?

Hey everyone!

So I'm contemplating on whether I should re-write the diagnostic test. I wrote one a couple of months back (July, I think). Scored a 153 (LG: 15/23, LR 1 and 2: 15/25, RC: 20/27) . However, I sort of lost track of time as I was taking the test -- I got really involved with the questions because I found them intriguing and just wanted to spend time trying to figure them out. I think I probably went 10 - 15 mins over on each section. Just an estimate though, not entirely sure.

I was contemplating on re-writing it before starting the CC. Should I? I honestly would prefer it if I wrote it after completing the CC (partly because I feel like it might be a bit demoralizing). I know people are divided on this so I'm not entirely sure if that's a good decision. Thoughts?

Sorry if it's too soon and you're still drinking heavily! I am really really confused about Section 1 Logical Reasoning Q21, the one about Alzheimers. Can anyone explain why it's E? I put D in both the actual LSAT and in my retaking and in my BR so I'm stumped.

Also, for Q10 on the passage of sunlight in Earth's atmosphere, I thought D would work since it blocks the possibility that there is an alternate heat source which would render ice and snow reflecting heat ineffective, thus stengthening the argument. But the answer is C, which I considered but eventually chose D. Any thoughts?

Date of exam: 9/24/16

Proctors:

I think I drew the short straw and had to sit in the front row where the proctors were pacing back and forth -- it was extremely distracting. I'm pretty certain that they were not pacing through the other rows behind me because there wasn't enough space between rows. There was also another proctor sitting on the Professors desk at the front swinging her legs, like she was really bored to be there, extremely annoying and distracting.

They did a good job keeping time. There was also a big clock in the room that you could go by.

Facilities:

Modern building downtown. You had to go up elevators to get to the classrooms. Toilets located just opposite the rooms.

What kind of room:

Large, tiered-row seating. Looked like it could seat about 50. Each row was divided into three sections, one larger middle section and two smaller wings. Seats were adjustable which was very helpful! Bright, well lit room.

How many in the room:

I think every person in Texas decided to take their lsat at A&M, there were three classes with about 30 people in each class, and there were 3 different classrooms. There was one space between you and the person next to you, I felt like it could've been a little more, but it was enough as to not be distracted.

Desks:

Tables were the long joined ones and you were seated with one space between you and the other test taker.

Left-handed accommodation:

Yes.

Noise levels:

Quiet. (Except for the person with the cold who wouldn't stop sniffling).

Parking:

Plenty. Right across from the school there were huge parking lots. And also available on the street.

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

Too long in my opinion. It was almost an hour from check in until we received instructions. Part of that would've been because there were so many people that they needed to process. I do think they still let people in after 8:30AM. We were left in the room with awkward silence waiting for what felt like an eternity for everyone to come in.

Irregularities or mishaps:

Felt as though they took way too long to get started on the exam. The proctors were very thorough with the check-in process, really looked through your ziplock bag and made sure there was nothing that shouldn't have been in there -- that may have added to the delay.

Would you take the test here again?

Not sure. I'm really tempted to try another test center, there is one in Arlington which is about 20 minutes away. However, I think their facilities are a little more outdated. The adjustable chairs are a big factor for me -- you didn't need to be too far hunched over if you're taller.

And I'm really banking on not being seated right at the front. That was extremely distracting for me with the proctors pacing and looking down at you constantly. And the other proctor sitting at the front swinging her legs like she was really bored to be there.

Is it more beneficial to your lsat score to guess on a question you're struggling with or leave blank?

Do you think that I have a chance for either NYU or Columbia with a 170 and 3.9 GPA but no extracurriculars. I scored 6 points lower than my average LSAT practice tests on the September exam

I've been studying off-and-on for the last 9 months with the 7Sage Ultimate + package (finished the CC), but now I'm ready to hunker down and put in about 15-20 hours of studying per week; however, I work full-time and I have no idea how long this will be sustainable for me as I've only been going at this pace for the last few weeks. My goal is to reach 165+ by June/September 2017 and recently a paralegal job at work has opened up that is only W-F, which would allow me a huge amount of additional study time. Before I apply for this job, does anyone who has scored in this range (PT or an administered test) have any insight about working full-time or part-time and how this has affected their test score? (Obviously more time is better, but I also have 7-11 months at 15-20 hours to fine-tune what I've already learned and PT.) Any words of wisdom would be much appreciated! Many thanks!

My reach schools were Columbia/NYU

My target schools were Michigan/Berkeley/Duke/Austin

I'd apply Mid November.

I'm already registered for the December retake.

My softs are okay & work experience

My last 10 PT average was ~169 with two low 160's days before the test. I definitely suffered from nervousness as over half the questions I missed were in the first 10 of each section.

I'm leaning towards waiting another year to save on app money. I'd use that saved money to purchase the admissions package for PS writing.

I appreciate any advice or insight. Thank you.

Sorry for the dramatic title. I wasn't going to post this because I don't want to scare any future test takers, but I really need some help. I was averaging 169 consistently for the final month and a half before the September LSAT. Well, I got a 150. This is 8 points lower than my cold diagnostic. I have no idea what happened. I told myself that I wouldn't let this number define me, but I'm absolutely crushed. Between full-time school, work, and a special needs child I don't have time to study for the December LSAT, but I'm planning on retaking it in February.

Here is my average previous to the September LSAT:

LR: -3

LG: -2

RC: -3

Here was my actual score breakdown:

LR: -11

RC: -15

LG: -9

LR: -11

Looking over the test and my answers (briefly, it was very painful), I can clearly see the mistakes that I made. I struggled in EVERY section, which is strange because it did not feel very difficult. I'm not sure what caused this drop, nerves possibly? I don't know. I'm considering taking an actual in-classroom course, but I just don't have the money and I would have to take out a student loan to do it. I also let my subscription here lapse because I was confident that I was ready. Ugh! I feel like I'm in a nightmare.

What should I do? I could really use some clarity about this situation.

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Hey everyone, pretty new to the application process and thought you all could help with my question. I am currently towards the GPA 25th percentile (3.45) and the median LSAT (164) for my target/reach schools. I have been working for a few years now, and I think I have time to study hard for the December LSAT to boost my score a few more points. However, I know applications are reviewed on a rolling basis and would prefer to submit my application as soon as possible.

Is it recommended to apply after I have received my December scores, before I receive my December scores or just go with what I currently have?

Any input would be a huge help, thanks!

OMG I woke up this morning (living in Beijing) and found that an email from LSAC waiting for me... And I opened it... Bang! 177!

To be honest, I couldn't believe my eyes!

Thank you so much 7Sage. This is a huge increase from my 161 on September 2014 LSAT. The blind review method and the study group was sooooo helpful! This would not have been possible without JY and 7Sage community.

Ahhh I'm so happy right now <3

So I finished the core curriculum and I have taken 3 PT's. On each test I scored a 157, which was what I was getting before completing the entire curriculum. I am feeling discouraged, but I know I can improve and I'm looking for some advice on how to do that before Dec. I am taking the test in Dec. and I would love to get a 165. LG's seems to be my weakest area but I need to improve everywhere. I am getting 18-20 in LR and 16-28 in RC. Any advice would be greatly appreciated on how to approach the next month of studying. I plan to take 3 PT's a week, but what else should I be doing? Thank you!

hey guys so I wrote for the first time in September.

I was averaging at 153-157 in my practice test. my last practice test i wrote 3 days before the actual test I got a 157.

my diagnostic was a 142. but by September I did about 6 practice test and never hit the 140s once.

I was so happy with my improvement. With my gpa (3.8) I know a mid to high one 150s would make me very competitive in Canadian schools like Ottawa and Windsor.

and on test day...... I got a 149. I was shattered. I was expecting tleast a 150 something.

I struggle a lot with depression and anxiety so this has been a difficult process for me.

My goal is a 157. do you think is possible to achieve that in December

No I don't want to study for 2 years and write later,

any positive suggestions will be great.

I killed arguments, did okay on games. it was reading comp that killed me I only got 8 correct in that section (the worst ive ever done)

In serious need of prep talk.

thanks,

a sad Scorer

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So I am retaking my LSAT in December and I just need to improve my LR. I am going through powerscore books and re-learning each question type because I didn't really study LR by question type last time. So I am reading the chapter for example right now on Must be True/Most Strongly Supported which I think some people call inference questions, and then practicing a ton of questions in that category, then once I am answering with good accuracy I will move on to next question type. Then I plan to take a practice test. My worst section is technically reading comp so I every day I will do one practice passage to try and improve that and mix in logic games here and there but thats my best section. Does this sound like a solid plan/does anyone have further advice for improving LR? Bear in mind that I can't afford any more books or programs, I wish I could because I would def do 7sage but that retake cost killed me.

December LSAT is around the corner, and it would be nice to hear some tips on controlling test day anxiety!

Thanks in advance. :)

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I still have the sales receipt from Aug 2014 for a Kaplan LSAT book. My twin daughters were Junior’s in high school and because of many transitions in their lives, I was dedicated to be available when they needed me in their last years at home before leaving for college.

Always a dream of going to Law School, I thought that I would take the LSAT. Hmmm, dumb-ass, not recognizing the full aspects of the test, I made every prep mistake known – and then I found 7Sage. Then, I found another way to screw up by casually going thru the curriculum the 1st time through. If anyone needs a testament for their parents to understand that it takes time to understand the test, I am happy to send them a note:)

After almost 2 years of intermittent prep and many hours being a part of 7Sage, I un-officially dubbed myself the historian of knowledge of those that came before us. JY created an amazing curriculum but his investment into the community to me is what makes 7Sage very special. The gift from everyone in the last cycle and all they did to create opportunities for the current students really changed the landscape at 7Sage to achieve not only their personal goals but also to give back sharing strategies for future test takers. The current cycle of test takers are embracing JY and the community to continue to help everyone take their studies to an even higher level.

If there was a time in our home when my girls had an issue, they would beg me to study because they knew it was a deflection from my attention towards them. Smart, huh! Whenever I was a witch with anyone on this site, I hope they understood that it was because I cared and knew that they were capable of so much more. The friendships that I have built mean the world to me and I am behind you every step that you take. Thank you for allowing me to be a part of your life.

While respectable, my score is not going to cut it for me to pursue Law School. I love how life works and 2 things happened in the last 24 hours before receiving my score showed me that I have other things in my life that need me more than Law School.

I wouldn’t give anything to change my life and where I am today. 7Sage has given me a “safe” place to be while I transitioned to being an “empty nester” and I am so thankful. While the LSAT test itself has aged me beyond my years, the community has kept me young at heart:)

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Looking for some advice. I was averaging about a 168 with a high of 172 and BR scores around 175 in the PT 30-40's. When I started on the 70's about a month before the September test my average and BR dropped to about a 162 and 170 respectively. I just received my score and was disappointed to learn that I got a 159. I am set on applying this cycle and have been studying since March (diagnostic of 151 if it matters) of last year. I am looking for advice about what my game plan should be between now and December in order to ensure that I am not disappointed next time around. In addition, is it worth applying with a 159 even with a note that I'm retaking?

Before you get the score you are satisfied?

Not sure how to attach the poll...

I'd like to share my method I used for this game. I thought this game fell into the category of "sounds weird and looks weird, but is actually simple". This seems to be a pattern seen in the 4th game of many 70s.

A very simple way to look at this game would be to think of it as a sequencing game.

Ex. If it says A transferred to B, I would diagram it as A-B

If says A transferred it to 2 other computers, then I would think of the diagram as A connected to exactly 2 lines on the right.

For the rule "S transmitted...", I would have S with exactly ONE letter connected to the right (ie S-__). Also note, I could have something connected to the __ because that wouldn't be connected to S.

For the rule "..to R also .. S", this would be diagrammed as __-R with that same "__" connected as __-S. That should look like __ with 2 things to the right of it (those 2 things being R and S). Now combine this rule with the previous rule about S and your result should look like __ connected to R and connected to S. And S connected to exactly one other thing (don't know what yet).

At this point you might want to think about what could be the first __ that transfers a virus to R and S. Our remaining letters are P,Q,T,U. As for what S will transfer to will also be one of those 4 letters (at this point). Please also remember that each letter can only receive the virus once, meaning there is at most only one letter directly connected to left of a given letter.

Finally, we find out either R or T transmits to Q and either T or U transmits to P. This gives us a lot of information because now we can start to figure out what goes in each blank. By simply placing 1 letter that transfers to both R and S, almost everything else will trigger and fall into place.

I hope this helps simplify the virus game. If you're still a little confused, I can go into more details and break everything down.

Hey guys! This is my first time posting here I've been watching the game videos for awhile now but just signed up for the course. So happy I did! This community is amazing! So have few questions. 1. I've been studying on and off now for good few months now and I'm planning on taking December my first diagnostic I got a 149 and since then my top score has been a 157 that was about 2-3 months ago. When I do untimed LR I usually 1-2 wrong timed like 4-6 . My LG is where i was lacking a lot been drilling that a lot and definitely getting better (especially bec of the videos) and my RC untimed usually pretty good but timed I'm in trouble. So my question is how should I go about studying the next month and a half. And specifically how should I be studying for the LG and also how does the BR work for the LG. Thanks so much!!

I just wanted to say a BIG thank you to all of the amazing people who make 7sage a possibility. I scored 170 on the September test, which is a 20 pt increase from my diagnostic. This increase would probably not have been possible without this program - I have been with 7sage from the beginning of my prep and hardly used any other material along the way. After a year and two takes, I have (hopefully) scored high enough to get me into my dream school!!

THANK YOU!!!