This is a principle question.

I got this wrong in both drilling and blind review.

So I thought I am looking for something that will do the following:

connect the premise to the conclusion

SO, say something about how something that is a health hazard should be banned

My reasoning:

A) This is the one I picked in BR. I thought the phrase "should not be allowed" could be a referent to banned. It could be taking it a bit to the extreme, i.e. making that extra assumption, but to me this seemed like the strongest answer choice.

B) The argument is not about misleading claims, but rather if something is a health hazard it should be banned. This answer choice does not do that.

C) This is stretching the argument to an extreme. This is like saying advertisements for vitamins should include all side effects etc. This answer choice says all health hazards associated with promoted products should be included. The argument says if a product has a health hazard, it should be banned.

D) This answer choice is irrelevant. Conforming to regulations and standards is information that is extraneous and the argument did not address.

E) I thought this was wrong because of the word ban while this answer choice is discussing promoting a product. I guess it could be correct because if it is not a health hazard then it would be healthful. This could be the contrapositive, "if a product does not promote smoking then it is not a health hazard" Then you would take the extra leap and say if it does not promote smoking then it is a healthful product, and you would just ignore the health hazard part since that is no longer relevant.

I'm really confused. In my reasoning, I did not address the "promote smoking" part, maybe that's where I went wrong. I still think this could be a big leap of assumptions. If someone can tell me if my reasoning is valid/reasonable and explain answer choices A and E to me, I would be most appreciative!

My professors said they need it so they get an idea of what my plans are for law school. I'm interested in commercial litigation or corporate law, not really sure yet.

From googling statement of purpose, it looks like it's something for students applying to graduate schools that pretty much says "this is why I want to apply to this program".

I don't feel comfortable giving them my personal statement as it's very...personal. I open it up briefly talking about rough sh*t that happened to me when I was young and that leads into how I'm a stronger person today etc. I'm also only halfway finished with it.

Should I just give them a more generic and less personal version of my personal statement?

I want to get it in to them by late September as I know they won't want to deal with writing a letter of rec during midterms (November) or finals (December).

I've done all the games sections from PTs 50 - 56 so far. I've gone between -0 and -3 on all of them, and I finished all of them under time, some with 5-8 minutes to spare. Are these sections easier than normal or I am just getting better at games?

I keep getting the message "video not found or access denied".

It was working fine till yesterday, I've restarted my computer, deleted cookies, and tried changing the settings to flash player.

Is it just me?

Hey guys,

I am currently focusing on LG, and I decided to try the LSAT trainer in combination with 7Sage. However, I find the Trainer to be a bit complicated and confusing thus far ( I am currently on chapter 10 of the book). Has anyone else experienced this, and is it worth completing the LG portion?

Thanks!

Anyone else find the the reading comprehension and logic games on this test were significantly easier than others but that the logical reasoning was more difficult? I scored significantly lower on this practice test and I have been scoring on others. I have been averaging around 163 but I only got 160 on this practice test

7sagers in school/working/parenting, how do you balance all of your responsibilities with your studies? I just started school again this week and I already feel like I'm drowning. With 30 days until the LSAT, I'm scoring above my goal. But, I'm still worried about having enough time to complete all four logic games. Agh! Give me some experience, strength, and hope, please.

My LSAC GPA is lower than my UG GPA. I took some classes in high school at a local college and that lowered it a bit. I am worried it will hurt my chances applying to some schools where my degree gpa is at the median but my LSAC gpa is lower than the median.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-44-section-3-game-3/

I have a question relating to conditionals in grouping games.

Although this was a relatively simple game in that L and P are together and G and H are not together, rendering a limited number of combinations, the two conditional statements upon which the more difficult questions depended made the game significantly more challenging.

In the video explanation for this game, instead of diagramming the conditionals in the typical if---> then format, J.Y. instead quickly jotted down the resulting game boards for each conditional. In this sense, the game is unique in that the two conditionals provided actually resulted in two fully solved "worlds." Because this rarely happens in grouping games, I wasn't in the habit of looking to see if the conditionals resulted in solved worlds. What J.Y. does, makes the game significantly easier.

My question is this: Whenever we have conditional statements in a grouping game that result in a solved game-board, should we jot down the solved game board? Or should we wait to see if questions require it? I suppose that doesn't make much sense...maybe what I'm getting at is, HOW do we know when use this technique.

Either way, this was a very simple game, made difficult by conditionals. I'd like to know how to avoid making the error I made in the future. Thoughts?

Can somebody explain how to use the calculator for LSDAS GPA? I went to one school my freshmen year that did plus/minus system and received 2 B's 2 B+'s and 6 A's. Then my next school does not do plus/minus but counts A's as 4 points. Does that mean I enter these in as A's or A+'s? What does 3 passing and 4 passing mean? And also do I put the total number of points I received (at the first school my A's were 3 points and at my final school the A's are 4 points) in the section that says five point? I am really confused.

The undergrad institution I am about to graduate from has the 10 point, or A/B, scale. We do not have A+/- scale. I currently have a 3.93 GPA. Will the LSAC change my GPA? It shouldn't change based on the LSAC requirements, as I have not failed or retaken any classes. How does this work? Thanks.

Hey guys,

Just wanted to give a big shout out to Alan for hosting our 7sage event last Thursday night in Toronto, Ontario. I know it's safe to say on behalf of everyone that attended that we all had a great time and appreciate your efforts to bring us all together to finally meet face to face.

To all that could not make it, there is still lots of time to exchange contact info and set up local group sessions :)

If those of you are not as email-savvy as myself, feel free to use this thread to get in contact with students in this area. You can also message me directly if interested in future studying.

Here are a couple of photos from the night (sorry to all who left before this)...

pics to come....

Hi guys i'm wondering if I could get some advice. I started casually studying for the LSAT about two months ago and i'm through 60% of the curriculum. In the fall ill be taking about 9 credit hours of classes so not too bad. In your guys opinion do I have enough time to squeeze in drilling through the cambridge packets for LR and LG then get in enough PT's for the December exam? I hear that some people just do logic games for a month..I would like to do that but it would take too much time away from scheduled PT's. Another option could be February but I will be taking 16 credit hours so I don't think ill have enough time...However the February exam is in the first week of so I could squeeze it in before the pressure of midterms. The next time I could take the test would then be December 2017 probably. I think my first diagnostic after I'm done the curriculum may give me a lot of info too..If I score around 152-152 I may just go ahead and write in December as my goal score is only 160...what do you guys think.

Thanks.

So, I've drilled LR using Tests 29-58. I BR all my work. I was getting 2-3 wrong per section, which is my target, but once I moved into the 50's I started getting 5-6 wrong per section.

I just can't seem to cut this number down. Most of my wrong answers hinge on details that are so subtle it's absolutely infuriating; answer choices that hinge on the correct interpretation of the word "susceptible" or other minutia.

I seem to have hit this plateau where nothing I'm doing is helping. How do I improve when most of my wrong answers hinge on these really small details? BR doesn't seem to be helping. I'm wondering if there are suggestions.

I want to save Tests 60 and above for full-timed tests, so I think I'm going to go back to the beginning and drill LR all over again :(

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-4-question-13/

Admin: Edited out passage because it was word for word. Please paraphrase.

I wanted to ask if this is the breakdown. because in J.Y.'s video he says that where it states "so it is no less wrong to grant this power to society" is the conclusion, but i see that as the sub conclusion.

and I thought the main conclusion would be [The ancient Greeks failed to recognize that morally, democracy is no improvement over monarchy] ..... because then you say "why should i believe this" and the rest of the argument tells you why.

The "/A->B" rule is so important for grouping games that PowerScore uses a special symbol ("A(-|-)B", or "the double-not arrow") to note it. As a person who understands how important this is for grouping games, I think the "double-not arrow" is brilliant. As a person who has tried to explain it to others, it is both frustrating and confusing. The "double not arrow" is ONLY used when the sufficient term is negative and the necessary term is positive--or is it the opposite? It makes a huge difference, but I find it almost impossible to keep it straight in my head, much less explain it to someone else. For that reason, I think JY is wise to avoid using it here at 7Sage.

But what if it were not confusing? I have come up with TWO arrows that practically write themselves and make grouping games much easier. All you have to do is look at the way we write out "/A->B" and "A->/B."

Note how the slash comes first in the "/A->B" situation, but comes second in the "A->/B" case. Let's turn those slashes into pictures. If we put the forward slash first, we can make a "/\" picture. If we put it second, we get a "\/" picture.

/A->B turns into A(-/\-)B

A->/B turns into A(-\/-)B

Pictures are helpful if they mean something, so let's call the "/\" picture an "erupting volcano." The "erupting volcano arrow" means that something is erupting, so that something must be in your slot. The "\/" looks like a "leaky funnel," which means something is leaking, which means something must be OUT.

If you can remember that "slash comes first" means "/\," and "/\" means "erupting volcano," and "erupting volcano" means something must be in, you can turn a "/A->B" rule into a full slot within seconds. And if you can remember what a "leaky funnel" does, you'll fill an out slot just as fast.

And there's no reason to ever get them mixed up!

Breakfast: Oatmeal, cereal, hard boiled egg, avocado, pancakes,...etc?

During the test: nuts, fruit,...etc?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-3-question-21/

hello everyone, this is a question that was asked but there was no clear answer. The answer choice for A, if you take the contraceptive it matches the flaw. Is A only wrong because D just has a better match? if D were not there, would A be correct?

Hi, I'm not sure why D is wrong and B is correct...

since it says there was reasonable grounds...etc I thought it follows the conditional statement and it's justified.

Any ideas why D is wrong ? :(

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-64-section-3-question-18/

If you had to name the top 5 things you always keep in mind while doing the RC section, what would they be? I am really having trouble breaking a -6 average on RC and was looking for some helpful hints that I may be overlooking.

I am taking the December LSAT. Should I start writing the PS while studying for the LSAT(now or in a month or so), the day or so after the December LSAT, or the day I get my score back?

Also, could I use the same personal statement for every school or are these schools that have different personal statement topics from the general open ended topic? If so, which schools are these?

The September test is fast-approaching. I've been getting mixed messages online with regards to prep in the last two weeks before the exam. I had a couple questions that I thought I'd put up for discussion. I realize a lot of this might be up to personal preference but wanted to see what you guys would have to say.

1) Do you write any *new* PT's in the final week?

2) If yes, is it really worthwhile to write the most recently published one. (I.e. PT 78 before September 2016 exam?) Wouldn't this limit your chances of reviewing and possibly affect your confidence if you write poorly considering it's most likely to reflect what the actual test would look like?

3) Assuming you are in a position to clear your schedule the week before the test, would it be better to do light review (i.e. drills and timed sections) or try to take time off of the lsat and relax (seeing as how I find frequently mentioned - you are unable to change little if anything in the last week anyways)

Hi everyone, do you do comp. passages last or first or just in the order they appear?

Context: My goal is a 173. I will be taking the September LSAT. RC was usually my forte, and I never had to worry about it, but ever since hitting the modern tests (60+), something has not been clicking, and on my last two p-tests, I got 6 wrong in each RC section. Minus 6!! My goal is to get -1 or -2 on each section, and LR and LG have (slowly) been shaping up to this standard or exceeding it. So RC is definitely now my Achilles heel.

I think it's because I suck at comparative passages or because the questions just seem harder on modern tests (or both). Not sure. I was wondering if it would help to do comp. passages in a certain order.

Near the end of my RC sections, with 5 minutes left, I panic a lot and it blinds my intuition. If I'm between two answer choices, you best believe I end up choosing the wrong one in those 5 minutes because I'm not thinking clearly.

If I do comp passages first, I get the hardest thing out of the way and I have a peace of mind for the rest. The danger is that I spend way too much time in the beginning and then panic because I don't have time and miss questions on easy passages.

If I do comp passages last, I get the easiest/easier passages down first, but totally bomb the comp passages because they are harder to solve in general, but add in the fact that I'm also panicking!

Aghhh. Any suggestions/help/anecdotes regarding RC are super welcome!

It's just frustrating because once I think I've got a certain section down, another pops its head up! Like fighting a hydra.

Recently there have been a theory that accommodated test takers will have to take the experimental section of the LSAT. I have contacted the LSAC through an email and I have stated:

"To Whom it May concern,

I am writing to the accommodations department of the LSAC about individuals who have extra time on the LSAT. If individuals have time and a half or double time to take the LSAT, will they be required to take the experimental section of the LSAT or will they only take the 4 sections and the writing sample like they have done in the past? For example, I have taken the June LSAT with time and a half due to my disabilities and was only required to take four sections and the writing sample. For the upcoming September LSAT I was approved for double time on the LSAT, so will I be taking four sections and the writing sample or 5 sections and the writing sample?"

Once I receive an answer ( I will receive an expedited answer due to an argument I had with an LSAC representative) I will inform everyone with a screenshot of LSAC's response. I have provided a link down below that outlines the lawsuit between the ADA and LSAC. I hope we may get an answer in our favor!

If anyone has sent an email to LSAC regarding the situation, may you please share your email and their response so we may get to the bottom of the situation at hand. Thank You!

https://www.ada.gov/dfeh_v_lsac/lsac_consentdecree.htm

@"Dillon A. Wright" @Mr.lopez @BruiserWoods @LARamsNation

Hi 7Sagers,

I was hoping to get your advice on a current issue I'm having. I am signed up to take the September LSAT in about one month, and am PT'ing roughly in the 165's, trying to break 170. I unfortunately found out about 7Sage late in the game, and I had always been told that I shouldn't take PT's until right before the actual test. Of course, I've now learned that's ridiculous, and I should take at least 20-30 PT's before the real exam - but I only have 5 weeks left. (I started taking PT's 2 weeks ago, and have taken 5 so far.) My question: is it better to take a PT every single day (and blind review that same day), 6 days a week? Or, conversely, take a test one day, blind review the next, then take another PT the day after, and so forth. If I did it 6 days a week, I would complete 33 PT's by the test date; if I do every other, I'll have done 20.

Taking a PT AND BR'ing every single day definitely doesn't seem to be for the faint of heart, but it also seems there's a very high correlation between number of prep tests taken and score (I also do struggle a little with time constraints).

Any advice from you guys would be really REALLY appreciated. Thanks!