Does anyone have any advice on staying motivated while working full time. I try to do 3-4 hours every day after work, but some days I am just so exhausted.

I started studying in March, and was planning on taking in June, but I pushed it back to September because I didn't feel ready.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated :)

Hello friends. So now that the LSAT is behind me, I'm starting to think ahead to all things admissions. I'm hoping to have scored well enough to give HYC a shot (nothing against Stanford in particular; I just don't want to live in CA). As I'm sure many of you are familiar, Yale requires the infamous "Yale 250" essay. I've read through the Yale 250 part of the CC, but I still have a few questions about it.

Is it always best to tell a story or would more of an abstract argument do, so long as it is not too political in nature?

Does third vs. first person perspective matter much? Is one preferred?

I've published a paper in a philosophy journal... Would it be an okay idea to pick out an approximately 250 word section of that paper and format it more specifically to the Yale 250 requirements? Or should I start from scratch with a new topic idea?

Any comments are welcomed!

So I have a question that has been on my mind the entire time I have been studying for the LSAT, how important is your undergraduate institution?

In High School I had no hope of ever going to College and actually failed to meet admissions requirements for in-state schools. During senior year I decided that I would want to attend college and enrolled in a tribal university (university for Native-Americans only). I worked extremely hard and managed to get a 3.87 GPA and for the LSAT I hope to get a 161, and everything I have done to this point leads me to believe that I will score around that point. I do not have dreams of attending top law schools but somewhere around top 50 or so (realistic goals for my metrics).

I met with admissions counselors and they are normally very positive in their responses about meeting admissions requirements but when I asked if my institution would affect my chances they gave a very worrisome response and sort of dodged a direct answer but implied it was a big factor. I was told that admissions officers are able to check the general scores of people applying to Law school from the same institution but if there is insufficient data it will be blank and they will not have a benchmark to compare myself with.

I understand that a high GPA from my institution does not carry the same weight as a large research university, but to what extent does it affect me and is there anything that I can do to lighten the burden?

According to DeMorgan's Law Theory, And becomes Or when contrapositive. Correct?

Then, I wonder why

A if and only if A (AB = A->B AND B->A)

becomes /A/B (/B->/A AND /A->/B)

instead of /B->/A OR /A->/B

I know that we need AND to satisfy the valid argument, but how do we automatically know that the statement only deals with inclusive or?

Can someone clarify plz? Thanks! :)

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Hey im still confused after reviewing the CC again

I know a some statement can be reversibly read but is there a way to negate it?

For example:

A some B --- C

If I negate C, what does that do to the some relationship?

This test really confirmed for me that the only thing that will surprise me or really blind side me is the stuff I didn't study for. No matter how well I did on this test, I know that I didn't do as well as I could have done on RC and I'm confident that any problem in my score will be a result of RC.

Knowing this, I urge all of us to really Focus less on stressing out and more on practicing for a possible retake in September. There is absolutely no reason that we shouldn't be able to raise our scores especially by studying the parts of the LSAT we've been neglecting. By being well versed in each section, we have a safety cushion where we can afford to slip up a point or two a section and score very high. But even if we're doing well on every section but, say RC, then chances are that we make a few mistakes here and there on other sections combined, and come across a hard RC and go -8. Now you better hope that the rest of the test you make only two or so mistakes which is really tough...

We didn't get unlucky with this test. The LG and LR were definitely easy compared to some other PTS. The LG wash breeze and I'm sure we've seen tougher LR. the RC was the hardest ever. Even if it were easier, then the rest of the test would have been balanced accordingly. So the point is to be so good at each section that you can rest your score on the hardest section. If I could do one thing differently that I also wanted to do for the June LSAT which I didn't, it's to start studying now so if I need to retake I'm ahead and if I don't then big deal since my mind was at ease.

Good luck guys, don't be afraid to retake. We all know deep down what LSAT skills we could work on. It's the questions you wish you don't see on your test. Those r the ones to really practice.

Maybe it's just me, but as I've been going through the PTs, I've noticed that recent LSATs increasingly contain answers that are hard to like. By that I mean the correct answer to a question is the best fit out of the available ones, rather than a straight up good fit if, say, taken in a vacuum.

LR answers don't seem to be as logically tight as they used to be, and RC answers require more.... mental gymnastics than they did in the past. Whether that translates to a harder exam is anybody's guess.

I don't have much of the same sentiment re: LG. All I can say about them (again, purely my two cents) is they seem to be tough because of tedium more so than anything else, for recent games that is.

But then again, maybe I'm just trying too hard to see something that isn't there.

I'm on the road so I can't post the full write up, but for those of you who took the digital LSAT, I just got an email with the results. Go check it out!

Sad thing is they didn't seem to break up the experimental, so there's no way to use the score as an accurate reflection of your performance.

Hey Y'all,

I am currently registered to take the LSAT next week in Beijing. Curious if anyone has experience taking the test abroad (or even better in China) any tips on how to make the day run smoother?

LSAC provided the address in English and I am trying to get them to provide it in Chinese to mitigate any translation issues that may occur with a cab driver. Any other tips for taking it abroad would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

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I am at a standstill, I understand what I am tasked to do with these types of questions but I am still getting quite a few incorrect and Ive been blind reviewing and reviewing the LSAT trainer and I am still not getting them correct, does anyone have any advice on this? I would REALLLLLLLLYYYYYYY appreciate it!!!!!!!

Hey guys,

I just wanted to get your opinion on different law school admissions consultants. I want to get help with the whole application process, but I don't want to spend thousands of dollars. Does anyone know of any companies that charge reasonable prices for assistance with portions of the application process or even the entire app process?

Thanks

I had a question about phase 2 of the memory method.

The following was stated, "The second phase of the memory method is exactly the same as the first, with one exception: you only spend 30 seconds on step two (Check Your Memory). Do this 6-8 times".

Is phase 2 done with the same passage or different ones? Also, i'm assuming phase 2 happens when we become comfortable with phase 1? Can someone provide more insight on this?

Thank you :)

Are the drill packets grouped by type yet?

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if you guys had insight as to what I should do. I went to a pretty large public school where, for most of my classes, I had hundreds of people in my class. I had a select few smaller classes with 20-40 people, so I was thinking about asking the professors from those classes. Problem is that I don't have a particularly close relationship with any single one of those professors nor am I sure they even remember me anymore (as it's been several years since I left school). I've heard a lot of people suggest putting together a packet of information to help the professor write the LOR. However, I find it a little weird to pop out of nowhere to ask a professor who may or may not remember me for a LOR. Do you guys think I should still just put together a packet, email the professor or hope for the best? Or should do something like request a coffee chat or check-in lunch etc. before asking for an LOR?

Thanks!!

This is a X-post from R/LSAT so any reddit users here you may have seen this already.

Last night I had a nightmare about the LSAT. I was taking the actual test and really had to go to the bathroom, (nightmare enough). I got up to go to the restroom, and on the way back I got lost in the halls. I started to panic and ask people for directions. They only responded with logical flaws.

"I'm sorry but you are confusing your sufficient and necessary statements."

"You equivocated the term restroom"

It felt like I was actually in hell. Then I woke up and now find it funny.

So 7sage, what LSAT dreams/nightmares have you experienced?

So I'm aware that the standard on 7sage for LG sections is that you should never erase and that you should always re-write out your game board for each question as needed in a set. I understand the argument for this and it is totally practical for easy sequencing games with minimal time involved in re-drawing game boards. But I highly question this strategy when it comes to more complex game boards, especially when you have say 4 different split game boards for the question. To re-write out 4 game boards fresh for every question in the set seems like a waste of time in these cases, especially when you have really involved game boards with sub-categories and everything.

As a result, I've found myself doing a lot of erasing. I tend to write in very lightly to the original board and then I can erase it easily for the next question. I'm wondering what others do with this?

I realize there is something lost in erasing in that when you write out the game boards fresh each time sometimes you can have inferences saved on different questions that can help you in later ones. But I'm not yet convinced the trade off in time lost is worth it.

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Hi Sagers!!!

I have a question. I was wondering if anyone knew of anyone who transferred from a lower ranked law school to a higher ranked law school? If so, was it an easy process? Also, what did they have to have in order to apply for transfer?

Thanks,

~M

The professor I'm going to ask took a job at his alma mater 7 hours away so I can't ask him in person anymore. What is the procedure for asking for a letter of recommendation by email? For example what forms, information, etc. should I send to him and does he send the LoR directly to LSAC if he chooses to write it?

Thanks.

Ramadan starts this weekend, and I thought I would make a discussion post for those observing it this year. As much as I love this month, I am bit worried about how I will be able to manage fasting, studying, Taraweeh (night prayer), and Suhoor (pre-dawn meal), or even just the first two. Fasting time is 19 hours where I am.

Regardless of how you practice Ramadan, or the various commitments you have going on, or the fact that we may be at different stages on our LSAT journey, I would still love to hear about the tips and strategies that you use or plan to use during this month. Even a rough outline of your study schedule might help me or someone else browsing through. As of now, I am just going to dive into the first few days and see what works and what doesn't.

Thanks!

Hey everyone,

I want to get feedback and see if there is an interest out their in studying LR but with a focus on strategies that increase your understanding beyond just that PT and question.

Instead of the traditional method where we are just just blind reviewing and trying to understand the question in front of us, we will be focusing on identifying patterns behind each argument so we can carry what we learned over to other LR stimulus in future PT's.

A lot of speed in LR comes from our ability to quickly spot these patterns that are constantly repeating. These patterns are not about learning question types - the core curriculum does a phenomenal job of that - but more about argument types.

So yeah, let me know what you guys think and if you are interested. : )

Update:

I am going to let all of you decide what PT series you would like to use to study these patterns.

PT 30-39:

Pros: These are basically drill materials PT's and are considered ideal for burning in order to study. Even the very beginners can join this.

Con: These are older PT's and hence a little less relevant than 40 series. We have also seen a lot of these questions as part of our core curriculum.

PT 40-49

Pros: They are a bit more relevant though I think there is not that much difference as the logic has not changed much from PT 1. I think it's fine to burn these for drills as well since we still have 46 plus fresh PT's left after these.

Cons: Some people still like to use them as fresh PT's.

PT 50-59:

I had a private request for this but since I cannot edit the poll if this series is your preference you can just write this down as a comment below and I would count it in the poll.

Cross posted with r/lsat

While prepping, how many full timed PTs did you take? I have access to 1-80+ (but am using 1-35 for drilling/fool proofing). I'm very overwhelmed by the prospect of doing 45+ PTs. That feels like... a lot. So how many did you do - do you feel you didn't do enough? Too much? Just right? If you have Ultimate+, did you utilize all of the PTs?

As of now I'm looking at doing 2-3 a week with blind review, starting in July. That would allow me to get through every single PT 36+. But damn that feels like a lot and wouldn't give me any more material if I decide to retake after Dec.