I suppose the difficulty of any given LR section depends on your strengths and weaknesses, but I'm wondering if there's a general consensus on certain LR sections being much more difficult than others. I'm finding my LR scores are varying greatly.

I'll take one section and get 8 wrong and just be completely utterly stumped. Then I'll take another section and only get 2 wrong.

Anyone else have this experience?

Also wondering which prep-test have LR sections most similar to today's. I know the older one's aren't as similar, but when do they start becoming similar? 35+? 40+?

I understand that E is the correct answer choice, but since this is a sufficient assumption question, isn't E describing a necessary condition? Isn't it too strong? It says New subway cars are REQUIRED. But they're not required. They're sufficient to cause an efficient, attractive subway, which in turn is sufficient to product good economic sense, but neither new subway cars NOR having an efficient and attractive subway system is NECESSARY for good economic sense.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-34-section-2-question-02/

I am just not getting these down. Help!!

Hey, I am sorry if this seems super obvious. But I was trying to access some games that I had marked by clicking the "star". I was hoping that later on I would be able to see a list of them, and watch the videos for them again. They are not part of a lesson but particular PT's. I can see how under "syllabus" you can see if you have starred a particular lesson or PT. I was wondering if there is a way to just access games or questions that you mark with a "star" that are part of Practice Test.

-Thank you :)

I really don't like the way answer choice (E) is worded. It's too ambiguous and abstract that I was not able to wrap my head around it during timed conditions and made me go for easier sounding wrong answer choice even though I knew it was descriptively incorrect!

Can someone explain to me what (E) is even saying?

And do recent tests have answers like this?

Thanks in advance!

Im confused about these webinars. First off, what are they? Are they live? I know theres one coming up this wed at 9, how do I access it? How do I access past ones?

Hi guys, I need some advice for how to go about my third LSAT

I took the LSAT for the first time in Dec of 2015 and cancelled my score (that LG petrified me). I retook June of 2016 and got a 160. I was a bit disappointed because I had scored a 166 a couple of times, but to be perfectly honest a 160 was a pretty accurate score given my last few PTs. I am applying to law schools in the fall (aiming for T20s only) and I really need scholarships so I have decided to take the LSAT one last time in September.

I haven't looked at anything since the June LSAT and I am wondering if anyone can give me some direction for how I should start studying. To give a basic overview, I did blue print the summer of 2015 leading up to the Dec LSAT, took a couple of months off and did the 7sage cirriculum in March of 2016 and used it leading up to the June LSAT. My paid 7sage membership has since expired and I am wondering if I should get a new membership, get the LSAT trainer that I keep hearing more about, or if I should just take a lot of PTs and isolated sections since I have already gone through the basics so many times.

Without a doubt, my biggest weakness is RC. While I was averaging -2 on LG and -4 on LR, I am lucky to get less than -10 on RC. For example, one of the times i scored a 166, I got -13 on RC but did really well on the other sections. If anyone has any advice on where to go from here I would appreciate it. I have actually gotten to a point where I am thinking about giving up on RC because I feel like I have tried everything (including the RC bible) and I still suck at it but I am also still able to pull of a decent score by doing well on the other sections.

Thanks in advance!

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I'm having a difficulty accepting D as an answer for this question. Hoping someone can help!

My issue with this answer choice is that it seems to create a further discrepancy. Answer D doesn't specify whether Peacetime refers to before or after the war. It doesn't seem unreasonable to think that since the war has ended there is peace. I mean, absence of war is peace. All this answer provides is the general statement that during Peacetime oil production and transport in the Persian Gulf result in negative environmental effects. Wouldn't this create a discrepancy? If D is correct, how can there be less damage after the war than before?

I have noticed a dip and performance when I am tired. I'll misread a weaken question, have trouble with conditional reasoning, amongst other things, when I am tired. As I mentioned the other day, my last practice test was a 158 and I know that isn't great but I shouldn't have struggled with simple weaken questions. In most subjects, one can push through being tired and I don't want to go to bed. Any advice on preventing a dip in performance?

Hello 7sagers and future sages,

Is anyone in the Boston Area interested in meeting to study, particularly about high difficultly questions and advanced techniques? I've heard that getting a real time perspective into your thought process can be eye opening and helping explain something forces you to get to that next level closer to mastery. If nothing else it would be fun to meet up and see how other people approach this beast with which we all must tango. Send me a message if you're in the area or want to Skype, and I look forward to conquering this mountain together!

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- I have noticed, at least on my last two test, that I just have difficulty doing the first couple of questions on my first LR section, between the question # 2-9. This is especially true if that happens to be the first section on the test! I'll end up skipping like 3-4 questions within the first set of questions. And I am too nervous at the end anyways when I have less than 5 minutes to complete those question to do them calmly.

But on my second LR section I usually fly. Finish on time, my skipped questions are not mostly congregated in the first couple of questions, and even though I am still nervous at the end when little time is left, I am a bit more relaxed because I know they are harder and I have got all the easy ones right (at least hopefully). Whereas on the other one, I know those are easy and I just have a block against them. Which probably makes me more nervous!

Or at least I think that is the issue that's going on.

1) What can I do to not have this block?

2) I have noticed this pattern before on the last two test and have thought about a warmup. What length of warmup is appropriate before a test? And how long before a test should I do that warmup?

3) Also, I have only recently started using the skipping strategy. So could it just be nervousness?

What do you guys think? And what do you all do to before a test to help get your brain going :D

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hey does anyone know where I can purchase prep test c2? I jumped the gun and bought the video explanation without finding the actual test, what can I say it was 7$ lol

Hey Guys!

I am retaking the LSAT in December, and I realized I really need to start with fundamental training. So, I am starting with logic games. Would any of you suggest Powerscore's logic games bible or should I just stick to 7Sage + the LSAT trainer + fool proof method of the Cambridge bundles for lg?

Thanks,

Kristen

OK I should finish the LR curriculum tonight. I am really feeling much better about my grasp of the concepts, however I am still falling for traps. So my question is, do you feel it would be beneficial for me to use old practice tests and drill each LR section. Here is what I am thinking. I work 40-60 hours a week. I have a very demanding job and I am right at the start of busy season, so my work week will start being closer to the 60 hours a week, so I am trying to cram as much studying as I can into my day. I do typically take a hour for lunch. So I was thinking... that I could take a timed LR section at lunch, then blind review it in the evenings when I get off work 1-2 times a week. Then score, obviously. Do you think this practice would work??? I was thinking about using the earlier tests... as I do have copies of those. Or should I just wait until I am 100% done with the curriculum. I do not plan on using tests 36+ as they are part of the curriculum, but I thought this might work as far as practice during the day, as we are what 10 weeks out, I know every little studying I can do during the day will be beneficial.

I really don't have an option of taking the December test. September is kinda my do or die test... simply because starting in Aug/Sept my work schedule gets frantic. I am actually taking the week off before the test to get zen and calm... because my job is about to get that insane, but that is a whole other topic for another day.

what do you guys think? I am trying to figure out how to get 30-45 minutes of studying in during my lunch break, because I just eat salad and take a walk, and normally that takes 20 mins of the 60 minutes I get.

Any tips or tricks you used would be awesome! thanks guys!

When you get accepted, are the schools going to straight up offer it on the letter or do you need to apply? Can you haggle?

Random thought, but does anyone know what JYs score on the LSAT was? Curious to know

Couldn't find a category to put this thread under (there should be a "random" or something category), but does anyone watch SAO or has heard of it? Great show

Edited: 7/12/16, 2:31pm EST - Updated flowchart

Approximately a month ago I began studying for the December '16 test with with a 149 diagnostic score. After three practice tests, I'm up to 163. I'm still hoping to reach around 175 before the official test. I realized that during the fall semester I won't be able to study as much as I am over the summer, so I wanted to find some sort of map for questions I can look over to aid in practicing and refresh my memory in between any breaks from studying.

I was looking for a flowchart that mapped essentially everything on the LSAT and I couldn't find anything that had quite what I was seeking. I decided to make one on my own on draw.io and in an hour I came up with this...

Would anyone like to collaborate on a project like this?

Draw.io allows you to save the chart to your device in a .xml format, which we could share back and forth each time we make updates.

Please let me know if you're interested or if you have any feedback! I'd like the chart to be exhaustive as well as visually appealing, so any help I can get would be great.

I'm confused because I am in the some and most relationships lessons and the word "ALL" is being brought back from conditional logic. From my understanding "All" is a group 1 sufficient condition indicator in conditional logic. So for example All J are F = (J --> F) and to negate we take the contrapositive (/F --> /J) however in the some and most relationships lessons were being told to take "ALL" and negate it using "some not" which would bring (J --> F) into ( J some /F). So whats the difference between the two, when should we use one over the other I'm just kind of confused.

This is an answer choice:

C) not to be subsidized, it cannot be a profit-making institution

would this be diagrammed as: subsidized --> profit making institution

because of the double negative: not to be, it cannot

Please let me know!! Thanks in advance :D

I am aiming for -1 or -2 on LG and I just finished LG Bundle (30 seconds ago) using @Pacifico attack strategy. I kept track of my timing and score for each game from PT 1-35. What should I do to improve further? I was thinking to put my results in an excel spreadsheet to find those games which took me 10 or more takes to hit the target time and fool proof them again? Or take PT 1-35 LG games in section formats under 35 minutes?

Perhaps someone out there could help me out with this: on the LSAT, what exactly would it look like to "challenge the accuracy of the given evidence"? This phrase is commonly used as a wrong answer choice on Method of Reasoning questions and I've yet to see an instance where it is the correct answer. Many times it appears as a trap answer choice when an author challenges the context/cause/relevance of some evidence but isn't actually challenging the accuracy of the figure cited.

I am recently taking LR from old PTs(1-20) in order to boost my score on this section. My maximum score is 159 but it fluctuates a lot. I sometimes scored 151 and stopped after scoring 156 on PT 46. I realized that my LR section score fluctuates between 60 - 70%. It seems that my LR hasn't improved much from 2007 test - which is 64% per section. I am not sure if my method is right. I've already went through 7sage package. Do I have to use LSAT trainer again? Or Cambridge LR bundle? BTW I've been writing down almost every time I BR my PTs.