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Hi all,

So, I've probably made every stupid LG mistake in the book at this point. Writing down rules wrong, making an incorrect inference that carries through into all the questions, reading a rule wrong, question stem wrong... list goes on and on. Obviously, I'm well aware that even a small mistake in LG that carries through in a game can wreck your entire LSAT score.

I previously posted to ask about mitigating the impact of making a mistake when it occurs. My question is, how do you avoid these mistakes in the first place? Specific strategies welcome (and yes, I do double check all my rules after writing them down!)

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I was on a different forum when I had a question about meditation. I recently downloaded "Headspace" on my iPhone and it's been great. What it does is it gradually guides you, in increments, in the realms of meditation. I've felt a lot more optimistic and less anxious, and generally more apt at adjusting to my LSAT/life-induced stress since I've started meditating.

When I first read about it in the CC, I was really skeptical of its effects. The term 'meditation' seemed intimidating and kinda hardcore. But this app makes the experience a lot more intuitive, simple and enjoyable. 10/10 recommendation.

TLDR: get "Headspace" on your phone

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Simple question really, when can you register for the September 17 test? Since I'm fairly certain I want to take it in September I want to register early to get the testing center closest to me. Just wondering if anyone knows roughly around when registration opens.

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I am curious what is the relevance and weight that will be placed on work and internship experience for law school admissions and then also (and perhaps more importantly) once one gets into law school and needs to find a job once in law school & upon graduation. I currently have no legal experience but am not sure how important it is that I gain experience before entering law school -maybe not so much because I believe it could harm my chances of getting in as I am afraid it would harm my chances of getting a job in or after law school. I am in my junior year of undergrad and at this point desire to apply to law schools this fall and go straight to law school after graduation. According to my pre-law advisor at my undergrad university (UC Berkeley), law schools do not place as much weight on experience (as LSAT and GPA) in terms of admissions. However, I am unsure exactly how much it would affect me after getting into a law school. Does anyone have concrete advise on this issue?

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I know this question shouldn't and won't affect my studying habits (except for maybe lighting a fire under my ass), but I noticed that UCLA, my goal school, jumped to #15 in the most recent US News rankings. Is this going to make them more selective? I'm doing my best to make a 170 the next time I take the test, but I felt a little comfort knowing that if I have a bad day, UCLA's average LSAT score is a 167...

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Older Preptests

Hello all, I hope everyone's studies are going well. I am wondering if it is worth it to purchase the older preptests that are currently sitting in my cart online. Everyday I browse through the discussion board and I believe ran into somebody advising to fool proof all the logic games from 1-35 to help with making inferences. I have really taken my time going through the curriculum because I work a very demanding and hectic full time job and plan to finish by the end of April and complete at least 20+ preptests before the planned target test date of September. I was originally going to complete the newer preptests (60+) and save the older ones for drilling along with the problem sets I have also saved. Through really taking my time with the curriculum I am getting more accurate and faster at completing LR and RC questions everyday, and I heard the key to really boosting your score is to become great at LG. I really want a LSAT score of 160+ to give myself the best chance at my dream law schools and if buying the older preptests is worth it I will definitely do so. I appreciate any insight anybody could offer,thank you in advance.

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    Hey all!

    First, I'd like to thank 7sage for everything it's offered! It's been so invaluable to me. I got into a lot of schools with scholarships I can be pretty happy with.

    There's only one thing; I was wait listed at my dream school (Cornell) and I'd really like to make that happen. I've been thinking about taking the June LSAT since I heard the idea, especially since I took the February one and panicked under pressure and ended up with a lot lower of a score than I had been scoring on PTs.

    But how does taking the June LSAT work for wait lists? Do you have to let the school know you're going to take the LSAT and notify them when the score comes in? Should you ask the school if they'd even review a June LSAT first? And my biggest worry--if a school somehow sees on your application that you're going to take a June LSAT, do you think they'd deliberately postpone letting you off the waitlist if they might have done it sooner? I'd hate to unnecessarily prolong this process.

    Anyway, regardless of what happens with Cornell, I'll be really happy to be attending Emory in the fall with a BIG scholarship that I'm pretty excited about!

    Thanks so much for all your help!

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    Last comment friday, mar 31 2017

    Focus

    For most of the time I have been doing the CC, I have been struggling keeping focus as I read the LR questions. When I time myself, I can't keep focus sometimes which causes me to miss key words/details resulting in missing the question. Its extremely frustrating when I have to keep re-reading sentences/the paragraph because I don't understand what I have just read.

    I have tried to read random question passages and quickly write down what I have just read to improve memory and focus but I don't know if that is a waste of time or not. I'm about done with the CC and I really need to fix this problem or I'm screwed 6 ways to Sunday for this test.

    Are there any drills or tips anyone has with LR focus or just focus in general?

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    Please help. I don't understand why (C) is wrong.

    Stimulus: No combining publicity appearance and competition. So it is "not both" rule.

    PA-->/Competition, or it could be Competition -->/PA

    PA-->/Competition

    Competition

    _________________

    /PA

    (C)

    Tomato thrive --> Hot Summer

    /Hot Summer

    ______________________

    /Tomato thrive

    I was also having trouble subtle differences of serious emergency and critical emergency.

    (B)

    less serious emergency -->/critical emergency

    fairly minor emergency

    ____________________

    /critical emergency

    I would think fairly minor emergency would also be non critical emergency....

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    Hi everyone!

    I'm kind of stuck with a few good offers, but a lot of silence.

    Full scholarships from ASU and IU. (Took Feb. LSAT so I know I'm late to the game.)

    Complete silence from: BU, Georgetown, Vandy, UVA, BC, UW. Has anyone else NOT heard from these schools? Afraid of what the silence means.

    For some background, currently enrolled in undergrad at Purdue, hoping to work in foreign affairs or for a multinational corporation. Brother in Boston. Parents retiring in Phoenix. S/O in Seattle. Vandy/Georgetown were my reaches, but it looks like I could get in, given their LSN profiles.

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    Hello I have a question regarding the method of identifying an assumption. This is a strengthening question.

    Context: Therapeutic intervention before the occurrence of mental disorders can mitigate factors known as major contributor to them.

    Premise: A much more comprehensive research program is necessary to verify these results and allow for the design of specific health care measures.

    Conclusion: In order to explore a potential means of cost-effectively helping people prone to mental disorders, we should increase funding for intervention research.

    In order to find an assumption, I tried to see the gap between the premise and conclusion and found one gap that increase in funding for the research could lead to a much more comprehensive research program. With this in mind, I went to AC. But I could not find an answer that matches the assumption I drew. In the second shot of POE, through (C) I found that the author is assuming that by saying that the intervention research is cost effective the author is making an assumption that the research program is inexpensive compared to long-term treatment.

    My question is, how come do I find the assumption that the right answer actually requires if that assumption cannot be drawn from the gap between the premise and the conclusion? Here, the claim that the research program is cost-effective seems to have nothing to do with the premise.

    This question is part of CC.

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-33-section-3-question-04/

    Thank you.

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    Who is ready to leave everyone behind in June!

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    Taking a PT on Monday under "true" test conditions has not given me enough time for a thorough BR before the Wed night BR calls - hence the move to Thursday:) If this change impacts you to not be able to join, pls let me know.

    For June takers, we should be able to cover the LR questions and possibly discuss specific RC/LG on the calls. If we are tight as a group preparing for June, then we should be able to make it work to cover all aspects of the PT whether within the calls or working together to meet on other forums to ensure understanding:)

    Here is my plan & hope you will join getting Test Day ready...

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    Last comment thursday, mar 30 2017

    Logic Games Videos

    Hello everyone! I am new to 7Sage. Could someone please tell me where I can find the actual facts/questions explained in the videos?

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    Last comment thursday, mar 30 2017

    Study Plan

    Hello guys.

    I am a beginner in 7sages. I have studied LSAT for 3 months by LSAT Trainer. I recently found out this site and am now running on CC. I posted this because I think I need some advice on the direction of my study before I go further in the journey.

    To begin with, I am currently gearing my study to June LSAT, and my average PT score goes 17/18 in LR, 19/20 in LG, and 22/23 in RC. My goal is from high 160 to low 170. Among other sections, LR keeps me from getting higher scores. The reason why I started to follow 7sages' CC was to improve my overall abilities in LR, which is the most hardest section for me in terms of accuracy and timing.

    But as for RC and LG, I thought I could improve them by doing what I have done for practice. For LG, I did one section under 35 mins every day and checked 7sages video explanation for games that I had trouble in however little that trouble is. For RC, like LG, I did one section under 35 mins every day and checked what I got wrong.

    This being said, is it a good idea for me to stop doing these and follow CC first for LG and RC?**** The reason why I ask this question is that I had not enough time to finish the whole curriculum including LG and RC before June and am just considering skipping LG and RC portions in CC. I just want to ask this question to those who found difference in 7sages curriculum especially in LG and RC.

    Thank you.

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    Last comment thursday, mar 30 2017

    PT63.S3.Q21 - Weed-killer data

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-63-section-3-question-21/

    I'm trying to understand this passage fully...

    I thought the data on the effects of the weed-killer would be misleading when it was drawn from studies of the weed-killer under a variety of soil condition because the effectiveness fluctuates. That's why I chose (D). I thought the premise was telling us how soil conditions ruin the data.

    After watching J.Y.'s video I now (sort of) get (D) actually weakens the argument, but can someone help me understand why my thought process (above) is wrong?

    Also why is this not a necessary assumption question? I think the argument has jumped from one idea (the molecules of a certain weed killer) to another (the data on the effects).

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    Proctors: There were about 3-4 proctors circulating the room, with 1 main proctor reading off the instructions and calling time. When monitoring us, they were very quiet and did not linger for long when passing through the tables. I don't believe I ever heard them whispering during the test either. (Granted, I was towards the back and no one near me asked questions during the test.) With enforcing the rules, I was quite surprised at how strict they were as we were only allowed to wear our jackets if the hood was tucked in. Otherwise, there were no jackets allowed on the backs of our chairs. With the exception of the timing mishap below, I would consider them to be quite good overall.

    Facilities: Each floor had men's, women's, and accessible washrooms. Though there was a lineup to use them, it didn't take long as there were about 5-6 stalls available (at least for the women's side). They were very clean as well. For drinking fountains, I don't believe there were any, but you could refill your water bottle on the first floor (only if your test was on that floor) at the refill station.

    What kind of room: It was a huge classroom (capacity: 188) inside the Swing Building with fixed, long tables and rotatable chairs. There are stairs to walk down to the front of the room with each level comprised of three rows of tables (i.e. smaller at both ends). In terms of wheelchair access, it is only available at the front and back of the classroom.

    How many in the room: I believe there were about 6-7 rows of us with about 10 per row spaced one seat apart, so probably about 60-70 students in our room alone? We were randomly assigned to rooms when we first entered the building. I believe there were 4 rooms in total (i.e. 2 on the first floor and 2 on the second floor), though I don't know how many students were in those rooms.

    Desks: These were fixed, long tables with rotatable chairs attached—the ideal desktop to do a test on because it's spacious and comfortable!

    Left-handed accommodation: This was not necessary due to the long tables.

    Noise levels: Minimal, especially if you've practiced with the distractions on the 7Sage proctor. As I said, I don't recall hearing any of the proctors whispering during the sections. At most, there was just the rustling of pages and the occasional cough. Students chattered a bit during the break, but it was at a tolerable noise level given testing conditions.

    Parking: West Parkade is right next door and has plenty of parking space. Because it was snowing that day, there was some backup of cars prior to and after the test.

    Time elapsed from arrival to test: I actually arrived at the test centre at 7:20AM and was lucky to have the building open already. Check-in started prior to 8:30AM and I believe the test commenced shortly after 9AM (due to how slow we were in the admin process).

    Irregularities or mishaps: In the fourth section, the proctor forgot to call the 5-minute mark but still ended the section at the proper time. However, this caught several students off-guard, resulting in some commotion (approximately 1-2 minutes) between one student and the proctor prior to the start of the final section. The proctor told us that he could not give us more time but he would make a note of it to LSAC and we could file a complaint if need be.

    Other comments: I highly recommend taking the LSAT here if you live in Vancouver!

    Would you take the test here again? Definitely! In fact, I chose it over a location closer to me because I was more familiar with it and knew it would be reliable.

    Date[s] of Exam[s]: February 4, 2017.

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    Hi I was just watching JY's video on grouping games set up 1.

    https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/grouping-game-1-game-board-setup/

    I'm wondering why "neither nor" in rule 3 is interpreted as not both, as in S -> /Y , and W->/Y.

    Why can't it be interpreted as biconditional? S (-) /Y as in S and Y are always apart.

    Is it because unlike the in-out games, a biconditional in this a grouping game means that if, for example, Y is not in 1,then S must be 1? (which would be an incorrect inference given that there are more group options now)

    If that's the case, if this game was an in/out game, could I still interpret the rule as a biconditional?

    Many thanks in advance

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    Hey guys,

    A 7Sager wrote in with a question that I thought you guys could help out with! Here it is:

    I recently enrolled in your program and I had a technical question to ask you about one of your lessons. I believe you covered it however just for clarification, in bi-conditionals referring to Logic Games (in/out) in specific Prep-Test 24, Section 4-Game 1. One of the rules states that Fenugreek is not included in the same recipe as Nutmeg. When I wrote out the rule, N /F, however there is another rule that ultimately connects through G N (Ginger in same recipe as Nutmeg). I wanted to ask, when you diagrammed it on your lesson, you wrote the top rule as F/N (aren't they the same?). And ultimately your chain was F/G/N however mine turned into GN/F (/N going from outside to N in the middle). So....am I wrong? Isn't just N/F and F/N contrapositives but switched around, so I guess I'm deciding which side to put my / though (If I should have negated my N or F and if it should always be on the "right side" or can it be on the "left", it's interchangeable right?, but my rule seems ultimately a little "messed" up in comparison. I could use a quick clarification. I had a question and didn't know to whom I should write, thank you very much! I could really appreciate your help!

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-24-section-4-game-1/

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