I just drilled the LG section from PT 18 and it totally threw me for a loop! Train lines? The random promotions game? What was that? I'd happily take snakes and lizards. For those of you looking for weird games, look no further :).

Off to drill them until I hit time... it was such an odd section I felt it deserved a shout out.

Hi all!! I am applying for this Fall's admission cycle and my law advisor is on sabbatical so it is hard for me to find someone to constructively critique my essays. If anyone would please like to review both of these essays I would greatly appreciate it. Just inbox me or comment here and I will send it over. Thank you to anyone in advance!!

For the next couple of weeks, we're moving to Monday. Yay?

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Monday, January 16, 2016 at 12:15PM ET: PT77

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12pm EST, Monday, January 23, 2016 - PT 78 (please note the date change from 1/19)

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Hi everyone!

This is kind of a weird question, but it's on my mind whenever I take a PT. I am hovering in the mid-160's right now, and have taken a little under 10 PT's. Games is by far my worst section; only finish 3 of the 4 every time like clockwork. When I go to BR them and have all the time in the world, I usually get a perfect score (not a feat that seems to be uncommon with games when you have unlimited time to finish them).

But this always then brings my BR up into the 170s, and well...this seems inflated to me. BR is supposed to measure potential, and it seems strange to say I'm a solid 170's potential scorer right now when I have such a huge crutch in games. It's like taking out my giant Achilles' heel from the equation every time I BR, and I don't want it getting in my head that I'm doing better than I really am. (Lol I've found that ego is a dangerous enemy with the LSAT.)

Has anyone else ever encountered this issue? Or have a way to BR their games with this in mind? Thanks guys :)

Hi, I would appreciate if anybody could give me more information about the binding program. Do I have to go to a law school if I get admitted through the early binding program?What is the cost of not going after get admitted? Also, is the binding means that I have to finish 3 years in this law school and can't transfer to any other school?

Thanks!!!!!!!

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Funny part is i'm not satisfied. Im still hungry. I see you Feb... 173... COME AT ME LSAT, YOU AIN'T SO BAD

Year + in the making.. Wow what a ride

Hey guys! I am not sure how the blind review method works since I have only attempted it once (for the diagnostic)... not sure if I am doing it correctly. Could someone please elaborate? I have found it to be really time consuming but I would like to get the most out of it since I understand it is really helpful in prepping for the LSAT.

Hello,

I have been hearing a lot about the massive amount of importance that 1L can have on one's career. I have also noticed that a common thread among successful 7Sagers on the LSAT is that they seem to study a lot more than most people. >1 year vs 3 months for your typical student.

Given these thoughts, I've been toying with an idea for succeeding in 1L. I don't know much about law school classes or the process so this might be totally off, but I figured I'd put it out there and see what you think. Here it is:

Deferring enrollment for one year before 1L in order to "ghost" the classes. Ghosting classes is where you take classes that you are not enrolled in in order to learn the information without being given an actual grade (and sometimes without even being enrolled in the school). I've heard of it being done in undergrad and possibly MBA programs, but haven't heard of it in law school. Given that 1L seems to have such such a large impact on the rest of your career, it seems that having 2 years of exposure to the material would put you at a large advantage and be very beneficial.

Ghosting would give the opportunity to get introduced to the course material, to experience the workload of law school and the study habits that are effective for it, and would allow you to begin to make the outlines. I've heard that the 1L class load is fairly similar across schools, so this may be effective even if you are ghosting at a different school than you plan to attend.

Given the immense importance 1L has on your career, it seems that having 2 years to study for it versus one would give someone a large advantage?

What do you guys think? Would this be feasible and possible to do in a law class setting? Would this be beneficial and effective? This was fairly off the cuff and I am certainly no expert in law school, so please feel free to correct any incorrect assumptions I may have made.

Thanks so much for the help!

I know it may not be much, but I finally broke an LSAT barrier and scored in the 150's 150 and BR 157! Again, I know it's nothing amazing and very mediocre for many people, but considering all of my prior PT's had been 144 and below, I'm glad I finally got into the 150's haha.

I'm preparing for the June exam and kept telling myself I better break into the 150's soon if not my confidence and motivation was just gonna be horrible. Really motivated to study now and reach my goal of +160 by June. Thank you to all the awesome people here at 7Sage!

Come June 2017 LSAT Grey Day, we wanna be winning like Tracee Ellis Ross at the Golden Globes

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* These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).

* The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.

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I needed to post about this because *sings* "for the first time in forever" I have broken a barrier! I'm now ten points up from my first PT and feel as though I'm making new progress. Thank you to everyone on this forum for being so kind and gracious in your advice. May we all conquer the LSAT!

The course planner is an amazing tool and I absolutely love this community. I am glad to be a contributing member now.

I have a question as to which books I should start reading before I start actually start the course. Any suggestions would be great!!! Thank you.

In the games videos, when JY sees the rule "if P, then not Q", he writes:

P -> Q

But when he sees "if Q, then not P" he writes:

Q -> P

But these mean exactly the same thing. Why write it one way but not the other?

It seems to me that something like P (-|-) Q would express the symmetry better, and visually indicate to the reader than P and Q are "equal" with respect to their relationship under this rule.

Hi guys,

I was wondering if you guys have any good tip in terms of approaching parallel questioning? So far, after doing 15 question, the only thing that I came up with:

1) Attention to structure

2) If difficult to understand, supply with an example to fill the referencing words.

Any good tips for this type of questions?

Thanks,

Panda

I'm still going through the C.C. and I just finished going through the Main Point questions, which are supposed to be the easiest ones. It was a 3.1 hr session and it took me around 12 hours across three days to go through it all. But when it came down to do the problem sets I failed miserably.

My timed score for each were (Averaging at 1.5 min for each question):

1: 4/5 (that was good)

2: 2/5

3: 1/5

4: 2/5

Even after BR my score would improve 1 point, and in some cases, some answers I chose in BR were wrong while my original answer was correct. Before doing the last problem set, I reviewed the first 3 by jotting some notes down as to why I got the answers wrong, but it still didn't pay off.

Questions:

1. Any way of finding more Main Point questions on this site? Without having me to go through each lsat to find them.

2. Any tips on how to improve revision? Did anyone experience something like this? What did you do? What did you find most helpful? I want to see an increase in score when doing the problem sets, and not just stay stuck. I feel like putting myself under time is adding a lot of pressure and so I find myself rushing to find the answer, but also sometimes I was off.

I know its only the first lesson with problem sets I have done, but I need tips.

Thanks in advance!

Hi everyone,

I'm desperately looking to buy an LSAT preptest which under 7 sage has been named as C2 -administered on Jan 2016. Since the grading for that test is up I am assuming that we can buy the test as well. I checked Amazon but could not find it. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Howdy,

So I am not new to 7Sage, but I haven't been active in the community. Short story version: I've been using 7Sage for about a year but pushed the test back twice in 2016 due to school and working getting in the way. I thought I could force by pushing quickly through the core material and skipping parts of it (yes, shame me) it but it didn't happen with my practice test results dropping each time (145, 141, 138). So I withdrew from the September date to preserve my attempts. I just graduated from Texas A&M and now am planning to take the June LSAT. I haven't touched anything since August and am planning to start the core curriculum over.

I am ready to do this. I understand where I went wrong and want to use a new approach now that all I have to worry about is a part-time job. I guess my main question right now is how much time per day do you spend studying while avoiding burnout?

Hi everyone, I'm looking to join (or create) a study group for the June 2017 LSAT in the New Orleans area.

Good lord, I find this question frustrating and I cannot for the life of me determine how any single one of these answers could be seen as satisfactory.

This is the question where West says that Haynes is the worst inspector. I honestly couldn't figure out how any answer would suffice, and even seeing the correct answer, I cannot begin to fathom why it might be correct. I think this literally may be the only case where I haven't been able to even begin to understand why the right answer is correct for this question.

The correct answer states that Young responds by denying one of West's presuppositions. But I cannot see how Young does this. Young states that Haynes inspected significantly more than half of the appliances inspected last year. I immediately registered this as countering West's argument by pointing out that given the proportion of appliances Haynes inspected, it does not indicate any failing that such a high proportion of rejected appliances would have been inspected by him. Can anyone give me a breakdown of this?

Where is the "presupposition?" How on earth would Young be countering it?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-79-section-4-question-12/

I know it will differ for each person, but I usually hear the norm is around 30+. I'm just wondering if this is your case as well?

I am going to take the LSAT in February. I will be applying all over Texas. I am currently scoring well enough for most schools here, and definitely not good enough for UT (my dream school). I am seeing the progress that many talk about. It is slow, but it is rewarding.

Yet, I need to go to school. My mind has been thinking, dreaming about finally getting to my first day of law school for three years now. The wait, the wasted time spent working in a job knowing that I will leave to do something fulfilling is weighing on me.

Still, what can be is beginning to haunt me. I see the improvement, I read your stories, and I begin to wonder. Maybe a 170? Maybe a 175? Who the hell knows?

Maybe I should have started last year, when I was stuck with little work in Florida? Maybe I should just bite the bullet and accept nothing but UT?

In reality, I do just want to get into a good law school that will allow me to work in Texas without fuss. I will most likely get that. Still, biting the bullet is tough. My wife thinks I am going crazy with my constant jumps of this year or next. In a way, I think I am too.

I am not sure this post requires much thought. It's just the musings of a person thinking way too much about his options.

Hey All,

You can never have too much practice with RC, right? Which is why you should definitely go check out this passage and then help a girl out with a question that is causing her to pull her hair out :)

E is saying that phytopathogens typically attack some plant species but find other species to be unsuitable hosts. I eliminated this answer choice because the passage never says that it is the species that causes them to be unsuitable hosts. Rather, it is the fact that the crops are rotated, not giving the soil a chance to become suppressive.

Plant A is sowed in a field, lets say. But the crops aren't rotated so the phytopathogens do their thing and the yields decrease. But then, the farmer notices this decrease in yield, so Plant B is sowed in Plant A's place. But after a while, the soil become suppressive again and the phytopathogens come back into the picture. Then Plant C replaces Plant B, etc.

Furthermore, the passage says: "The problem can be cured by crop rotation, denying the pathogens a suitable host for a period of time." (emphasis added)

The species of plant is irrelevant. The phytopathogens are "triggered" by lack of crop rotation and they can only be stalled for a period of time. I mean, I know we can't infer that every single plant species is in danger of phytophathogen wrath, but I definitely don't see how we can infer that there are some species that are not.

I chose D, which I realized was wrong because of "majority," but E just seems completely unsupported.

I was scheduled for the December test but I had to push it for June. My study partner took it December test, and pretty much not around anymore. I am done with the curriculum, except I am reviewing LR & LG. I am planning to take two tests a week starting Feb 20. I am free during the weekday. Ideal schedule will be

M-F. 10-2 and Saturday and Sunday i am open to meet morning or afternoon. As a matter a fact I am studying with 2 people on the weekend, just looking for someone during the weekday but you are welcome to join us on the weekend. I am on the upper east side. But I can meet any where else in the city and I drive so I am open for a little drive during the weekend. Thanks looking forward to hearing from you.

Hi guys,

So I'm thinking about taking a semester off for the June LSAT. Do you guys think it is worthy or necessary?

Currently I'm a third year in college in a quite demanding program and I had a hard time juggling between the LSAT and school work last semester. I did spend as much time to prep as I could last semester and scored a low 160s in the December test. I really want to aim for 170+ for June and I think it's much more possible taking some time just to prepare for it...Anyone else did that for the LSAT?

Any suggestions for test prep or time management advice would also be helpful. Thanks.

The first time I heard the world LSAT I was watching Suits and I thought come on Mike how difficult it can be. Fast forward a year and I was just done with my diagnostic PT and it was a 148. My first thought was, LSAT is pretty hard. It was so hard that I gave it up for a month to reassessed my life plan and at the end of it I registered for December 2015 test and decided I gonna study LSAT full-time for couple of months and get a 160 which would get me into a decent Law School.

So, I borrowed a Kaplan LSAT book from library and finished it after a month by going to library from 08:00 am to 04:30 pm five days a week. Turned out it was the worse decision that I made during my prep because after finishing the book and taking another PT I got 149. My first thought was it must be the book so I bought power score books and finished them in one month by studying 08:00 am to 04:30 pm seven days a week.

During the same time I was watching YouTube videos about LSAT as break. YouTube being YouTube suggested a lot of LSAT related videos including 7Sage LG videos. I was afraid to take another PT so I printed out all the games from PT1-35 and sort them out based on the game type and did them under timed condition and watched J.Y. explanation for each of them afterward. By this time it was a week before December test I took PT 70 and I only got 152 and realized I will not get a 160 on December test and ended up withdrawing from the test. At that point I decided if I am going to do this I gonna do it right.

So I searched for an in person LSAT course but luckily there was none in my city, which forced me to signed up with an online company. I chose 7Sage one week free trial course, because I had not tried this one yet, bought and read most of LSAT Trainer as well as BRing the three PT that I took in two to three weeks. The free trial course was decent enough so I bought the Ultimate package and went through the core curriculum in three months. During this time, I was studying 07:30 am to 08:30 pm seven days a week. I made a mistake please do not study more that 6-7 hours, I burnt out two or three times and lost around 44 lb unnecessarily. The next step in my prep was fool-proofing all the LG games from PT 1-35 and attending all the webinars by different Sages. Needless to say, I postponed more than once, the more I learned about LSAT the less ready I felt.

The last phase of my prep took more than five months and consisted of taking 32 full-timed PTs and a lot of individual sections. Every PT that I took I made sure to BR it thoroughly on my own and then attend the BR call for it before scoring it. I progressively improved but when I reached 167 I stuck there and I could not go higher, I got a 171 once but it was mostly luck. I reached out to 7Sage community and got help from mentors like @twssmith , @Sami and @nessa.k13.0. I am glad that I got @"Cant Get Right" as my tutor to advise me and go through difficult questions and my PT recordings with me to point out my mistakes a month before the test.

The highest score that I got on a PT was a 172. On the actual test, I managed to get a 173. Thank you 7Sage for helping me increase my score from 148 to 173.