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Hi 7sagers

I'm writing this Dec and possibly Feb from how things have been shaped.

I need some advice from those who have overcome similar problems as mine...

I have been battling LR for the past month or so and I have consistently been only getting around 14-16 right. I speed up to 23 questions, I get 7-8 wrong, I slow down to 18 Q's and still make around 3 mistakes. My goal is to hit atleast 20 on LR and I need some advice on how to get more accurate. As this road block has been keeping me back for sometime! I know one week might not be enough, but still I need a game plan; not just for this week but probably also after Dec for Feb.

Any help would be appreciated...

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so i got a call from the person who is proctoring me for my accomodated lsat and i find out that instead of my test being on the 3rd of next month its on the 6th, still at 8:30. has anyone experienced anything like this? i dont mind a later date though it does change up my schedule. my big question is that with the extra 3 days, would i be getting the same test as everyone else or would i be getting a new one and will it still have the test section

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I think sometimes they disagree each other in both premise and conclusion, (different premises and lead to opposite conclusions)

and sometimes they only disagree with either premise or conclusion. (arrive at the same conclusion using different premises or using the same premise but arrive at the different conclusion)

When they have opposite conclusions and different premises, the question can really ask either about premise and concision discrepancy right?

For example, PT79S4Q20.

They disagree with both premises conclusions right?

The conclusions are implied---For Edgar, the conclusion is do NOT shutdown, but for Rafaela, DO shutdown.

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Near the start of this video lesson in the Causation and Phenomenon-Hypothesis Questions group, JY points out that a stem which says, "Which of the following, if true, most strongly supports the ... argument?" is actually a strengthening question and admonishes us not to confuse it with a MSS stem!

Yes, he gives a persuasive reason -- the direction of support is here consistent with strengthening and not with MSS -- but what the hell? If the stem isn't going to indicate the type of the question, why are we reading it first and using it to guide reading of the stimulus?

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Cornell law's app says to include a resume that lists: "Work experience, including full-time, part-time, summer."

So this means I should have a longer resume for Cornell that includes pretty much every job I've had right? Sure, I won't include random jobs during high school, but can I go ahead and include the random summer job during college, and some other part-time jobs I've had? I hadn't included these initially due to getting my resume down to one page, but if Cornell wants it all, I'm happy to oblige.

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As a second time test-taker, I'm experiencing a motivation slump with the core curriculum and can't get through it as efficiently as I'd like to. Everybody's who has successfully completed the CC, how'd you do it? =D

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Hi All,

This might be a stupid question to ask but is there a common section where the LSAC places their experimental section in the test? For example, is the experimental section more likely to show up in the first 3 sections as opposed to the last 2? Are there some ways to tell if a section is experimental or not? I was just curious to see if they are always random or if there are some patterns as to where they get placed etc... Thanks!

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Hey guys,

A 7Sager sent me an email today and I thought you guys could help out! Here it is:

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I'm preparing to take the LSAT this December so this message is quite urgent.

I've been practicing and I'm feeling confident but I'm having a hard time with the very basic concept of sufficient and necessary conditions. On the surface I understand it but then I read contradictory information.

My question is, well let me use an example.

If I take the LSAT, I must get into Osgoode.

LSAT (sufficient) -->OS (necessary)

Contrapositive

/OS-->/LSAT

If I didn't get into Osgoode I didn't take the LSAT.

-What can I tell you if I got into Osgoode?

-NOTHING because from the necessary condition alone, I could of taken the LSAT or I could of not.

-I get that the occurrence of the necessary condition does not mean the sufficient must also occur, cool.

But I cannot figure out if when:

1. The sufficient condition occurs does the necessary condition have to occur?

2. Can the sufficient condition occur without the necessary condition?

3. What happens when you satisfy the sufficient condition?

For logic games with conditional rules

ex. If F3-->G2

-Let's say "F" is in 4 so I'm correct to say "G" can be anywhere inclucing spot 2?

Please help me clarify.

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Basically, I am taking a cab to staten island and will need my phone to call another cab to get home to Brooklyn. I can't leave my phone in my car if I don't have a car, and if I don't bring it at all, should I just ask someone, like one of the proctors, if I can use their phone at the end of the LSAT, so I can get home? A trivial issue, but I would prefer not to be stranded....

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I have always been the type of person to change answers based on a repeating pattern because "there's no way they would put 4 C's in a row, right?!?!", so I just wanted to share a portion of the answer key to of one of my practice exams that I wrote (PT 19, Section 4 LR)

15.C

16.C

17.B

18.C

19.C

20.C

21C

There you have it 6/7 answers were C. Let this be a reminder to see through the mind tricks they throw at you!

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Hi

So I asked my professor to write a letter and she said yes, but until I take the test she will not write one for me...

Does this happen to you?

Because if after the test, it takes a month to see the result and if she starts to write a letter after that it will take more time.

In fact, the other day when I asked her she said she may not be able to write depending on the deadline.

so...when should I ask her then?

I'm not even sure when I will take the test...

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Hi

So I think I know the fundamentals of LR but I still miss questions on the ones that I should not have missed...

I do choose very carefully when I do timed-test...why does this happen???

I do review throughout after taking the test but this continues for months and I feel very disappointed...

People say it takes time to see improvement but why?

If you know fundamentals, shouldn't you see improvements very soon??

If not, doesn't that mean you still do not understand the basics?

I don't know whether my way of reviewing is not good or it just takes time or...just frustrating...

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Hey,

I recently ordered practice 79 but it doesn't look like its going to ship in time for me to receive it by the December 3rd LSAT DATE. Are there any games similar to the virus game that I can use to prepare for a game like that?

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So I'm taking the December LSAT and I'm stressing super hard because I still can't get the timing aspect of the test down. I have the concepts down enough to score relatively well when doing a blind review of my PT but when it comes down to the real deal I don't do nearly as well. My most recent example is that I scored a 152 timed, but after a blind review of my PT, my new calculated score would have been a 165, which for where I'm aiming I'd be perfectly okay with scoring on the real test. I have underlying diagnosed anxiety problems which I'm now starting to find out may be affecting me more than I previously thought especially with LR. I feel like my anxiety makes me focus on the time in my head too much which in turn messes up my focus in deeply grasping the stimulus, but I obviously am way too late to seek any type of accommodations for the December sitting. I don't even know what to ask tips on, but does anyone have tips on I guess how to kind of push the timing pressure aside or even what you have seen helps you focus better on the questions?

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When I first started studying for the LSAT in June of this year, I went -12 on my LG diagnostic. After dredging through a BluePrint course for three months, I was not seeing any improvement, despite my drilling and constant practice. Nothing clicked. The supposed "easiest section to improve on" was not the case for me, and I was in total disbelief when people told me "You'll eventually enjoy logic games." It didn't make sense because, well, it's really hard to enjoy something you're terrible at!

At the beginning of October, I found out about 7sage through TLS and started tuning in. I signed up for the core curriculum exclusively for JY's advice. I took the time to go through all of the Lawgic materials. I took it seriously when JY said things like "If you don't understand this, you need to go back to the (x) section and review your fundamentals" before listening to the explanations. After a month of review, I started doing LG again. I drilled and practiced like an animal, fool proofed games, tracked my timing, and filled an entire notebook.

I accomplished my first -0 on LG on PT 59. Yesterday, I went -0 on PT 78. Now LG and I are friends.

@"J.Y. Ping" Thank you!

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Sorry to be melodramatic, but all of life is hopeless and I want to die. Just kidding, at least about the dying part, but I need some advice about to what to do.

I just walked away from PT 79 (SPOILER, I'm going to discuss the order of the sections) in the middle of the RC section - which is usually my best section. I didn't feel like the RC section or the LR section before it was any more difficult than any other PT, but I just felt like my mind was in a haze. I was moving much slower than usual and felt like I wasn't comprehending what I was reading.

Some background - I went to bed early last night, slept well, got up early, exercised, ate breakfast, had coffee, warmed up with half of a LR section and 2 easy Logic Games. I felt confident - I really felt like this was the day I would get a 170. I have done well (for me) on my last 5 PT with an average of 164.8 (166,166,167,162,163). I took a timed, proctored PT 73 last Saturday under test-day conditions and I didn't do as well as I had been doing (163). This damaged my confidence some, but I attributed the score to nerves which caused me to choke on the LG section. But that's always my worst section. I normally get -2/-3 on RC and LR and today I felt like I was choking on those!

So, what do I do? Don't say postpone. I know it's good advice, but my situation is different than most of you and I have to take the test on Saturday. I'm taking advantage of the University of Oklahoma's "early entry" program and I need a score to finish my application. I can retake in Feb and even June for scholarship purposes, and my lowest score is still in the top 25% for OU. Do I take a day or two off? Is this just regular burnout or something else?

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