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Last comment thursday, dec 22 2016

Logic games examples

So on the side menu of the app there are logic game videos that e plain the questions and gives the answers. But where do you get the questions from? I see they are from a prep test but what prep test?

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Hey again everyone!

I was wondering what the biggest difference was between older and newer/more recent PT's? Which are more difficult? Are there certain sections that are considerably different? I have pretty much decided to postpone the February LSAT once again, but I really think I should be ready to go by June.

Any tips or suggestions would be gladly accepted, thank you all!

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Hi,

I am beyond confused on one of the logic games

Each of exactly six doctors- Juarez, Kudrow, Longtree, Nance, Onawa, and Palermo is at exactly one of two clinics: Souderton or Randsborough. The following conditions must be satisfied:

Kudrow is at Randsborough if Juarez is at Souderton

Onawa is at Souderton if Juarez is at Randsborough

If Longtree is at Souderton then both Nance and Palerno are at Randsborough

If Nance is at Randsborough, then so is Onawa

If Palerno is at Randsborough, then both Kudrow and Onawa are at Souderton

So @"J.Y. Ping" solved it one way

L-> /N --> /O --> J --> /K --> P

--> /P

In order to get rid of the contradiction with the P's he negated /L and got

/N-->/O --> J--> /K--> P

However, I decided to find the contrapositive of the first statement and got

/P--> K--> /J --> O --> N --> /L

P ---> /L

But I have no idea how to remove the contradicting P's because L is already negated. I'm so confused regarding what to do next?

I feel like I'm missing a basic logic concept but I tried going back to the material and I still dont get it.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-34-section-4-game-4/

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I am getting in a bit of a groove in terms of studying for this thing. I am finally picking off answers and my mind is growing to understand sentence structure as well as logic structure. With that said, I have had a pretty crazy study schedule, and am only going to afford around 12 PT's until the big kahuna in February.

February is going to be my first LSAT take, and if my current grasp of things continues, I think I may actually have something going (crossing fingers, because I am not testing but just doing random exercises and studying the curriculum intensely). OBviously, if I mess up, I am going to retake in June and September if necessary.

With that said, I will obviously know where I could be come the first few I take and BR. However, I want to make sure I have a grasp of exams that you guys feel were most challenging or best suited to prepare me for the current exam.

Which 12 would you pick?

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I just finished the Assumptions and Weakening lessons. I feel like I'm following the subject matter and doing well on the questions, but sometimes get confused when I read everyone's comments and they split hairs about the difference between what is the premise and what is support. Are the terms not interchangeable? I understand the basic concept of the premise supporting the conclusion, but feel like maybe I'm missing something. Can someone explain the difference to me?

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I know this may be a bit silly to ask, but I don't see this used anywhere else. What does the dash mean in reading comprehension passages? for example "Indeed, certain notables even called for the enslavement of unemployed laborers who roamed the british countryside -------- an acceptance of coerced labor that Eltis attributes to a preindustrial desire to keep labor costs low.......

what does that dash mean between countryside and the word AN

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Last comment thursday, dec 22 2016

Spring Semester start?

I was just wondering if anyone has any general information on spring starts in law school. I've been advised by a couple lawyers that it's always a viable option if for some reason a normal Fall start couldn't work, but I'd like to know if the community has anything better. I obviously would rather start in the Fall, but I'm weighing all my options and am making sure I have more than just a plan B if needed, so any pros/cons, concrete information would be awesome. Thanks in advance!

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I got the most unexpected and awesome call from a Palo Alto area code yesterday, and it's in large part because of the people who built this site and all those who have made this such a wonderful community. My diagnostic score was a 154. Believe in yourself, be disciplined, and trust in the process. Oh, and watch all of JY's LG videos ;)

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Last comment wednesday, dec 21 2016

Book courses

i am a physician and decided to go to law school and despite graduating with high honors and graduating from the university of Illinois very high in my class, I took the lsat will no preparation and scored 151, worse performance of my life , couldn't finish the test . Was admitted with a scholarship a deans scholarship, I was so dismayed with my performance and a month ago bought your books , a month later I took 4 prep tests on line and received 160, 163, 163 and 171. Your logic games were phenomenal , I now feel confident with any game, still miss a few but have gained great confidence Thanks Dennis

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On the shortest day of the year, who wants to spend 3 of those precious hours of daylight BR-ing PT 73? Sounds like fun to me!!

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Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - PT 74

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Monday, January 16, 2016 - PT 77

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  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    So, I was looking for advice in the TLS forums, and pretty much everyone told me to rethink my entire life plan. The plan is (or was?) to take part in OU's early entry program, which allows me to start 1L a year early. The catch is, I don't technically have my BA until after 1L. The plan all along is that my husband and I would stay in Oklahoma, but recently we've been wondering if we would really be happy here forever. So, I was planning on doing well enough (top 5%) and applying to transfer to a T14 school. If I got in, we would move. If not, we'd stay.

    Everyone in the TLS forums (all current or former law students) told me that I should reconsider this path and that I cannot bank on being in the top 5% of my class. The more I thought about it, the more it seemed like a risky plan. If I'm not able to be in the top 5% of my class, then I would be stuck in Oklahoma...forever.

    Anyway, now I'm rethinking my entire life plan. Since we're not sure we would be happy living here forever, I'm leaning toward finishing my BA (graduate a year from now) and retaking the LSAT in June (unless I somehow miraculously scored over a 170 in Dec) and applying to T14 schools next cycle.

    Thoughts? Good plan? Or should I stick with my previous plan? I should also mention that I am a little older than your average 1L...29. (sorry I am so needy for advice on here...)

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    Hey guys, this might be a really silly question but do we need to include our names and a title for our personal statement? I finished mine and i realized I'm over the page limit by a few lines and I'm wondering if i have to leave my name and a title in there because if i don't, i can save space that way. thanks in advance!

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    Recently I have been having a lot of success during exercises for LR. This, to me, is a miracle since it was my weakness and what hampered me from breaking the stubborn plateau I was in. Anyway, I have found that actually drawing out LR passages when needed (SA, MBT, MBF, PSA, INF,etc) has really helped me break through some of the toughest questions. I still have issues with certain questions, obviously, but I can see a light at the end of the LR tunnel specifically because I am beginning to visualize what is occurring in the passage.

    With that said, the margins we have for drawing on the exam are small, and I know I will be cutting it close if I try to visualize too much. My assumption is that, per each LR section, there are around 10-12 questions that are easily solved via visualization ( SA, MBT, MBF, etc, etc) and the drawing and analysis normally gives me an answer time of 1 minute to 2:15 depending on the difficulty of the question.

    Do you guys waste time drawing and visualizing things on paper? Or have you gotten to a test taking point where visualization is mental? I would, obviously, prefer that method but am not sure I can get my brain to see things that way. I have always been a "write it down or draw it out" type of learner.

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    Last comment tuesday, dec 20 2016

    Need some advice

    So I recently finished the curriculum and took my first PT last Friday. I improved from my diagnostic but not by a considerable margin. I definitely struggled with pacing and made some errors that I usually wouldn't make. I'm hoping that my test anxiety will go away as I take more PTs and I will be able make the gains that I have been training for. Anyway, I am registered to take the February LSAT. How many prep tests do you all recommend is a good amount to take? My target score is a 165, but I'll be happy to break 160's.

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    Last comment tuesday, dec 20 2016

    Logic games

    the first time I took the test I got 12 on logic games , I then did games with 7sage first allowing 12 minutes an then listening to the explanations I repeated tough games and sought to get to 9 minutes and again listen to 7Sage strategies. On the first test I was very nervous running out of time. I did at least 50 games , using this course to check my strategies and answers about 2hours daily for 4-5 weeks and I got 22/23 . The two reasoning sections I kind of was a natural

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    Last comment tuesday, dec 20 2016

    What do you wear on the test day?

    Hi, edited title and re-use it since it seems we can only post two threads:

    My new question is...

    What do you wear on the test day?

    Would it be too warm in the test center due to the heater?

    I'm thinking to wear something casual...like, really casual...

    Anyone doing similar or will you wear formal such as suits etc.?

    Original post:

    It means we need to arrive at the test center by 8:30am right?

    Or should we arrive at the test center at 30 min earlier to do those procedures?

    Thanks

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    Hey guys! Looking for some advice....

    Ok, I'm in a little bit of a bind regarding the professional LOR I am planning to ask my boss to write. I was hoping to ask next year since I will be applying next cycle. I wanted to be prepared to have a good conversation explaining why I want to go to LS, my LSAT score, future job prospects, etc... but unfortunately I'm finding myself having to do this much sooner.

    My boss has been battling cancer BUT has been in great shape for a while. I was confident that I had some time to have the "LOR chat" but I just found out that he's hitting the last stretch of his battle (devastating, I know). I feel like I need to have the chat sooner rather than later. My problem is that I haven't taken the LSAT and I'm still researching law schools. I don't feel as confident going in having the conversation since my guess is that he'll grill me about the LSAT and schools (he's a very well known arbitrator-- he's known to grill with questions). I also don't want to sound insensitive going in asking for the letter.

    I guess what I would like to know is how YOU would approach this?

    Also, how does LSAC and/or schools look at letters that are written well in advance? Should there be mention of his illness? Not sure how to approach this when applying.

    Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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