Hello,

As many of you have probably noticed, PT 39 - PT 51 is very difficult to obtain in 2016 unless you have money to blow. So the only thing I can utilize is the posted questions provided by 7sage. This limits my ability to use it as a practice test and thus, I tend to use it for drilling. Anyone have any advice on this?

I was wondering whether LSAC will be cruel enough to give 3 LR sections in a row ( 2 + experimental). I really hope that is NOT the case!

Hi guys. So over the years, starting from first year I looked at questions from the 2007 preptest just because it was free. Now it is spoiled as my diagnostic...so do I need to take it? I also studied for 3 weeks before taking this course so I have an understanding of what each section entails.

Hi guys,

I was wondering if its recommended to do some light studying during the wait period or to just have 3 weeks off while waiting for the scores to arrive. I have studied the LSATs for almost 2 years but am still concerned if my skills would deteriorate if I didn't do some studying within the three weak period.

Alright guys, time to get back on it! June may be behind us but September and beyond will be here faster than you think. So get down with your bad self and let's do this thing.

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Any advice on how to improve score on RC questions?

Hey guys,

I am taking the September LSAT and after reading a good number of people saying how the June LSAT was easy to moderate I am getting nervous. While my "theory" has not evidence to back it up whatsoever I am afraid the September LSAT will be much harder. Could there be any truth to it?

So, I have been reading a lot of posts on here and it seems like those who score in the 170s (my dream score), studied for about a year to a year and a half.

What I want to know is that is this time spent from start to finish, non-stop? Or on and off?

I've been at it for about 11 months on and off, and approximately 3 months consistently (at least an hour everyday with days of break every now and then).

Any help and/or info is much appreciated. Thanks all!

How can I do this?

Hello everyone! This is my first time posting here on 7Sage. I have been reading a lot of the forum posts, hoping to find an answer to my question but I couldn't, so here it is. I took the June 2016 Administration of the LSAT and I am in need of opinions on whether or not I should cancel my score, as today is the last day to do so.

Some background on my situation:

I first took the LSAT during the middle of my junior year in college, December 2014. I had not prepared at all and knew next to nothing about the test and so just registered and took it. Based on the fact that I knew nearly nothing at all about the LSAT and the rigor it demands, my score was not surprising, and I scored an abysmal 138. I took this as a learning experience, however, and decided to study after I completed my final year of undergrad. I graduated with a 3.86 GPA in May 2015 and I was proud to have earned that, but I knew it was time to buckle down for the LSAT. Beginning during the first week of July, I began to study using the Powerscore LG Bible. It helped me gain a nice foundation for logic games but it didn't put me over the edge, in terms of mastering them. I studied on and off like this for months... signed up for the December 2015 LSAT and I ended up withdrawing because my biggest fear was/is wasting my GPA and accepting a mediocre LSAT score.

I got a tutor during the last week of January 2016 and began to see major improvements in my logic games. It was incredible. I should say also, that I partnered my tutoring with 7Sage's free logic games video explanations and my score sky-rocketed! I had gone from getting only 8 correct in a section, to consistently getting no less than 17 correct in a section and climbing! With this success, I decided to sign up for the June 2016 Administration. As the test got closer, however, I noticed that I was peaking at scores of mid-to-high 150's. This was NOT anywhere near my goal of 170+ but I was convinced to take the test anyway, after I learned that multiple takes were not going to kill me.

I sat for the test and came out of there feeling defeated. I found that the games section was very doable but I found myself running out of time. Then my reasoning sections were touch and go, they truly were a blur to me. My reading comp (my weakest section) was tough but I found myself blanking on my second RC section (which luckily turned out to be the experimental section). Overall, I found myself completely guessing for at least the last 10 questions of every single section, and that being said, I don't think I had good accuracy when it came to the questions I actually got to attempt. This made me feel extremely uneasy, following the test.

Now, ever since this past Tuesday morning, I've been wrestling with the idea of whether or not to cancel. I already have a 138 (December 2014) on file, and then am risking having this other miserable score on file (June 2016). I am without a doubt sitting for the test again and am planning to sign up for 7Sage's curriculum, since they've helped my LG significantly.

My biggest worry is that I'll have to explain 2 miserable scores and then have that third out-of-the-park score. I am aware that most schools will only use my highest score to evaluate me as a candidate, but I can't help but think that 2 bad scores will hurt me, as opposed to having a poor score, a cancel, and then the high score.

What should I do?

Thanks for reading, if you've read this far and I apologize for the long post.

When a problem says: Grace helps move the sofa if but only if Heather helps move the recliner, do I diagram it as: Gs(------)Hr or Hr(----)Gs, or does it matter either way? Also are "if BUT only if" and "if AND only if" diagrammed differently or the same?

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If it is true that most schools other than Yale do not penalize for multiple takes...

Unless something happened during the test that was extremely detrimental to your scoring potential, I would not cancel...

Post-test anxiety is a given but you never want to waste a take.

7Sage and the BR process has given us pre-testers a way to try to evaluate our decision choices under "optimum" test conditions. If you sat for the test and cancel your score, you have nothing to gain from the experience other than sitting for 5+ hours in a testing room and have to trust your memory on AC's once the test is released to everyone.

Why would you want to give up the chance to have your answer sheet and the scored test for you to evaluate your decisions and choices during "real" conditions? The opportunity to be able to seriously BR the heck out of the test could mean serious gains on the next take if needed.

Always a personal decision, but I hope this helps:)

Hey Guys,

I know it's not a fun topic, but I am really struggling with the question of whether to cancel my score and would appreciate some advice. My situation is a bit unusual so I've found most of the advice out there to be not that helpful. (tl;dr - too busy at work, wasn't ready for June but took it anyway, will do better in sept., should I cancel?)

In January, I registered for the June exam. I am a legal assistant at a v5 firm and shortly after registering was assigned to a new case that was going to trial. I worked 85+ hour weeks from mid-March thru 2.5 weeks before the June exam, and thus did no prep at all during that time.

The biggest problem at this point was that I hadn't yet "learned" logic games. I knew I couldn't do that in two weeks, but continued to work as hard as I could, prepping 7 hours per weekday and 10 on weekends, plus 6 hours of tutoring. The tutoring was great, and gave me the tools I need to work most effectively over this summer for September. I went into the exam knowing well that I was not ready and would not perform to my highest potential. I took the test because I paid for it and felt the test day experience could only be beneficial. I was PTing around 160 and getting at least half wrong on LG. The test went fine, but I think I scored somewhere in 159-161. I am going to take September and am planning to work extremely hard until then, and I won't have the same issue with work hours. I am certain that I will do much better in September. I am aiming for at least a 165.

The question, then, is whether it is worth having a lower score on my record if I know for a fact that I will do better in September. It seems to me that the best choice is to cancel, and that all I would get out of not canceling would be having the ability to see my score - nice, but worth it if I can avoid having a 159 on my record? If I don't cancel, I would write an addendum explaining the circumstances leading up to the exam. What do you guys think?

Thanks so much!

Hi friends! I've been studying for the LSAT while working a full time job, which means I wake up three hours early every morning to do my lessons and then do a few hours of studying each day of the weekend. I'm approaching the part of my course where I'm just supposed to be doing practice tests, and I was wondering how other 7Sagers in similar situations spaced these out.

I obviously can't complete the whole practice test before work during the week, but I also don't think I can do two practice tests and blind review them on the weekends in between. I was wondering if for the weeks with two PTs, I could do one Saturday and one Sunday, and then spend the rest of the week BRing both of them?

Let me know your thoughts!

I finally decided to take another yet hopefully last LSAT next year. Would you please introduce anyone who achieved the significant jump? I really need to learn from those and it will put me on the right track later.

Howdy Folks,

I'm thankfully coming to the end of this course after a long fought struggle with LG. I wanted to ask some of you veterans our there: I've been covering the LG portion of this course with a lot of patience and I haven't touched a lot on my other skills. I wanted to ask what were some of the ways many of you put the course all together for yourselves. Did you begin prep tests and pick a few days a week to go back through the old material? Did you dive right into the prep tests and only review the old material as you needed to while doing your BR? Did you take a few weeks to review old material before diving in? Thanks for any feedback folks, I appreciate it.

Hey team,

Wanted some input on the optimum time to conduct a BR session. Do you find it more beneficial to BR an hour or two after you PT, or is it more effective if you wait to BR the following day? Since I'm a re-taker I'm cutting ZERO corners this time around, at the same time, I know for BR to work you need to be very meticulous and disciplined during review. I know this process, however rewarding it may be, is still taxing. What approaches did you take to properly PT/BR in conjunction with drilling your weaknesses whilst avoiding burn out?

Thanks

Happy Saturday!

Can someone please explain question 5?

How I interpreted the question was the minimum number of salaries would be 8 not 7. The reason for this was that K would always be first, thus leading the other 8 workers being placed in the remaining spots.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-4-section-3-game-1/

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I know I'm not the only one.

Hi! I may not be a typical LSAT student at least in terms of age. I graduated from college in 2002 (Mechanical Engineering) and received a Master’s degree in Biomedical Engineering in 2005 and Ph.D. in Bioengineering in 2010. Then I spent two years as a postdoctoral researcher in neuroscience and then I worked as an assistant professor at a state University for two years. Before it gets too late, I wanted to try something else other than academia, so I left academia and got a government job two years ago. So I am an engineer and scientist by training, and I have published more than 30 peer-reviewed scientific journal papers.

My experience in the government over the past 2 years has motivated me to go to law school. It’s been a while that I took a test since my graduate school and I was quite nervous and I think I significantly underperformed on the June LSAT last Monday than my usual PTs. Do you think if my background (PhD in engineering, research paper publications, grant funding and student teaching/mentoring history, work experiences as a university professor and in government) could be considered as a strong soft in law school applications? Also, if any of you have a similar background or have seen similar cases, I will appreciate if you could please share your stories how your work experiences or soft helped your law school admissions. Because of my current job, I'd like to go to part-time programs in the DC areas. Thanks!

Did anyone hear anything funny or unusual at the LSAT sitting? One person at mine was taking it cold and claimed her gpa was strong so the LSAT shouldn't matter much. Another person had studied for over a year and claimed she never scored over a 140 but her goal was a 145 so she could get into an unaccredited program. Another person said their logic games strategy was to spend all of their time on sequencing games (the person said games where you place things in order in a row) if they got one because they are the only ones that are even possible to do quickly. She said she would just guess on the rest of the logic games because trying didn't really change the result. Any others out there?