for LR /LG and RC. I think I am not doing the BR as thoroughly as it should be done (not taking the time to eliminate all wrong answers etc ) My goal is to reach as close to perfect score in BR. Looking for more ideas on how to get there. Currently my BR strategy is do the test again without time pressure. Which may be fine for LG I think but maybe there are more section specific BR strategies I could use.

Hi all, received my score yesterday and I couldn't be happier. Came in at a 173. I studied full time since June, which is not such a long time by certain standards, but I really did it full time, 40+ hrs/wk. I am thankful to all the folks who make 7Sage what it is - I have no doubt that this is the best way I could have prepared for the LSAT. 7Sage prepared me to work hard and take the test seriously because there's no BS in the curriculum, or on the discussion forum. I benefited enormously from the advice on here - both JY's voice in my head from all those videos, and the active mentors who give so much time to help other people succeed.

I know the report we got yesterday was a let down for some. If you're feeling that way, just know you are in the best prep community, and you can keep advancing if you are willing to put in the time and effort that it takes for you to get there - which is different for each person (but not easy for anyone!).

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-69-section-1-question-25/

Ok, a can be properly inferred if which of the following is assumed questions.

I disagree with the right answer on this one.

In the first sentence the question states, verbatim, that "a folktale is a traditional story told in an entertaining way, which may lead some to think that folktales lack deeper meaning". It goes on to disagree with this and say that they are passed on through generations and thus provides great insight into the wisdom of the culture.

So as I see it there are two possible required assumptions. 1) That any tale that provides insight into the wisdom of a culture has a deeper meaning. OR 2) That any tale that is passed along through generations is capable of providing said insight and wisdom.

Right off the bat A) answers number 2 so I tentatively circled it, but decided to check for any that answered 1, which would be a stronger answer in my opinion.

B) on first glance seems to answer 1, but in my opinion doesn't, so was just put there as a trap I figured, being the last question.

B) which actually turns out to be the correct answer, states that "Any tale that provides insight into the wisdom of a culture is deeply meaningful in some respect."

Here is my problem with B, How is "deeply meaningful" and containing "deeper meaning" in any way the same thing? Something having a deeper meaning implies that under its surface it has another, "deeper" meaning. That in NO way to me implies that it has to be "deeply meaningful" which to me simply means it has an strong impact on the reader/listener. For B to be correct, in my mind, either it must read something like "Any tale that provides insight into the wisdom of a culture has a deeper meaning." or the stem must be changed to say "...that folktales lack meaningfulness".

Am I simply mistaken about the meaning of "deeply meaningful" and what the phrase "lack deeper meaning" implies?

Hi guys,

I'm retaking the LSAT in February. I scored a 155, but that's after getting -16 on logic games (yeah I suck at them). I'm aiming for a 160, and I'm pretty confident in the RC/LR sections, so I'm just trying to focus on actually 'getting' logic games. What's the best place to start? I have the powerscore bible and workbook. I'm just wondering about strategies in general- should I work through the book, get a different book, ignore the book and just do PTs-idk. I've already been through the LG questions on this site (in the syllabus, not each and every walkthrough!) Also, is my goal even reasonable? I appreciate any and all input. Thanks!

Been going through the curriculum now for roughly 4 weeks. A lot of people want to know how long does it take to improve their score by X amount. Since I'm not regularly taking PT's yet, am curious (for those who feel like they've mastered the material) how long it takes to master the fundamentals of the curriculum (e.g., the Lawgic translations, identifying/analyzing premise and conclusion, grammar parsing, etc.). Did you have to watch the videos more than once? Or is this an endless pursuit?

Basically asking what the title asks, I sometimes find sections that are labeled as 'easy' to be harder than 'hard' ones occasionally, is this based on an algorithm? Further, I find that easy sections sometimes have games that are harder than games I find in medium section ones because of the three relatively easy games, they throw in an extremely difficult one. PT70 comes to mind on Game 3 which isn't that hard when you do it twice, but the rules are very unique imo and hard to see under timed constraints. Thanks!

Lend me your advice! I'm planning on taking the June test after having taken the June 2014 test (basically a 6 month hiatus away from the LSAT minus some tutoring here and there). I'm trying to think about how to get back in the groove and specifically how to use practice tests.

I've been studying off and on for this test since 2013 and I really need to get a 172+ to get into my target schools (ideally, a 175+). I took my first test in February 2014, scored a 166, took it again in June 2014, score a 162 (pretty much had a panic attack during the test), and have exhausted a lot of my practice test materials (I have about ~5-7 clean PTs left). I have some practice tests I've seen once, some I've seen twice, and some I've even seen three or four times.

I know that studying for your third retake, especially after a hiatus, looks a bit different, namely that I should take my PT and BR average with a grain of salt. Any advice on how you approached your third retake successfully?

I am trying to plan my schedule for the rest of the month and I want to see how it matches up with the BR group schedule. I know they get posted daily for that night, and Ive seen it early in the week, but is there something that goes out further? Thanks! @DumbHollywoodActor

anyone have a list of schools that weigh or prefer UGPA more than Lsat? That would be awesome thanks

Hey folks!

We're happy to announce that plans are underway to develop 7sage weekly webinars. Now that scores are out, we'd like to take this opportunity to invite passionate LSAT gurus to lead webinars on topics of your choice. Topics can range from specific game or question types to general test-taking strategies to mindset and prep philosophy ... Anything LSAT-related.

If you're interested, go ahead and comment on this thread or send me a private message. No specific minimum LSAT score is required (we'll consider all interested parties!)—just a passion to teach and share the wisdom you've gained on your journey with others. I'll follow up on details individually; there is considerable flexibility in scheduling and no long-term commitment.

Jump in, 7sagers!

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Long story short: I took the LSAT 3 times. First time was a cancel>149>153. In all my PT's my range was 160-166, so to say that I am devastated with my score is an understatement. I know I am intelligent and I know that my actual LSAT scores aren't indicative of my abilities. My LSDAS GPA is 3.1 and regular GPA is 3.4 (switched majors from hard science to humanities). I have work experience in the legal field, good LORs, and a solid personal statement. My question is more about which direction to take moving forward. I can:

a) attend a sub-par law school and attempt to transfer to a top 30 after 1L.

b) retake the LSAT in December 2016, improve significantly, apply for 2017 admission.

c) apply for a bunch of reach/safe schools, if I don't get into any school I want, then wait it out a year and take the LSAT in Dec. 2016; reapply.

Any advice/input would be immensely appreciated.

Hypothetical:

Let's say I apply to LS with the Dec lsat score and get in for this upcoming cycle. Can I still take the LSAT in June and Sept for a better score, decline admission, and reapply for the next cycle?

No extenuating circumstances...only because I received a better score (much better score).

Not sure what the rules are re this.

Anyone?

Hey fellow LSAT takers,

I've been seeing lots of good posts on here, and wanted to get some input on my situation. I've been scoring anywhere between 148-154 (I know, not super fantastic, but I'll take it) on my PT's. I took the December LSAT and felt like my test anxiety might've gotten the best of me, and I was right. I scored even far below my diagnostic score. This was actually the lowest score I have ever scored out of the 25 PT's I've taken, and it's a real blow to my self-esteem.

Now I'm questioning my testing capabilities and everything... I was really planning on starting school this cycle, and I'm afraid that with such a low score at hand and only four weeks left to study, I won't be able to get a better score in February. I also feel like I'm just going to waste an entire year if I don't get in this cycle...

Anyone else in a similar position?

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Does it make sense to apply to a school with your June LSAT score, in the interests of taking advantage of submitting your app early, with the expectation of scoring 5-7 points higher in October (big reach, I know, but hypothetically)?

Alternatively, would it be better to take it first in October, with December as the inevitable back-up, and submit apps in January? The benefit would be a stronger first score, since I know I'd perform better if I took it in October rather than June, but the cost is the submission date. If I were to do this, would it be possible to submit my app after my October score, regardless of what I get, and update the school with December (to mitigate the cost of relatively late submission) or should I wait until after?

Thanks in advance

Thoughts anyone?

How do I do BR?

What is your time spent on when you study? I ride the train to work (takes about a half hour) each way. I work on practice test questions, but I find myself dozing off, especially after a long day at the office. I also study at lunch (about a half hour) whenever my co-workers are not having lunch with me. Then, when I get home, I am sort of taking care of housework, other homework (master's degree), working on a project or spending time with family.

What is your studying like? How much time do you actually study? Is it reviewing techniques or working on practice questions, timing yourself? With my schedule, I find that I am not able to time myself on a practice test. Or maybe I should, despite the train announcements?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-62-section-2-question-11/

When writing out the conditional logic for the reporter, I initially got /C--> /M but when I went back to review I got C---> M. In other words, because of the if I kept cured as the sufficient and then placed medication M as the necessary. But I thought when you have the word not in the sufficient side and the not in the necessary side you can negate the necessary side twice. I guess what I'm confused on is when you have "not" written on the sufficient and necessary conditional. If not is on both sides of the conditional how do you use lawgic?

I signed up for 7Sage in July, planning to take the LSAT in October. I quickly realized that there was no way for me to absorb and internalize all the information I needed in time to be ready for that administration, so I postponed until December. I studied nearly every day for the next 5 months, working through the curriculum and a seemingly endless barrage of practice tests. By the time I sat down to take the real thing, I couldn't read a question without hearing JY's voice in my head guiding me to the right answer. I just got my results and I couldn't be happier. I added 12 points to my initial diagnostic and even scored 1 point higher than my best PT!

To those of you slogging through the course, keep at it. This test is brutal. It demands some serious sacrifice and can take a huge psychological toll on you if you let it. But if you stay focused, put in the work, and take advantage of the guidance that is available on this site, that work will absolutely pay off.

And to JY, Jonathan, Dillon, Pacifico, Nicole, and everyone else who has built this community and helped to create an effective, fun environment in which to prepare for the LSAT, THANK YOU! You've helped put me, and many others, in the best possible position as we prepare to take the next step toward a career practicing law.

Haven't seen anyone post an actual number. Pretty happy with mine and wanna brag to you guys...

so evidently a score in the 71st percentile on the LSAT earns you a score in the 89th percentile on the GMAT (business school admission test). I am an inactive member and am retaking the LSAT down the road. I scored a 157 on the October LSAT (12/16 PTs in low 160s with BR in low 170s) then decided to get a MSF degree and postpone law school. The verbal section of the GMAT is a simplified version of the LSAT with LG replaced by sentence correction. Even though I am not pursuing law school right now I have already reaped benefits. Did you know that you get 2 minutes per question on the GMAT? TWO FREAKING MINUTES!? Imagine what you could do with that time on the LSAT!

Anyways...thank you to 7sage, Pacifico and Nicole Hopkins. It's rather enjoyable to read forum posts here, be reminded of all the fatigue I felt on a daily basis and see how it has positively influenced my life (even if it's outside of law right now).

-Dane

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Would anyone be willing to read and provide feedback to my personal statement tonight?