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so hopefully this is a temporary loss of clarity, but I can't quite articulate the difference. In grouping games it seems that both A-->/B and A(--)/B can both be represented visually on a gameboard stacked in a box with a slash no? As in, if A is in a group then B is not; compared to A and B cannot both be in the same group.

Someone get my back!

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Hello all! I have a quick question. I'm in the PT phase of my studies, and I'm wondering if 7sage has a tool that shows all the questions I've marked with a star? I typically star the questions I've got wrong on my first go around, and was hoping I could see a full list of those that I marked over the course of my studies thus far. I figured this would be a good strategy for addressing my weaknesses before I continue to move forward. Not sure if this is a thing or not, but any information/advice is always appreciated!

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Hey Guys,

I've officially decided to take the December LSAT instead of the September LSAT. I experienced heavy burnout and took the last 2 weeks easy and in order to maximize my score I know I need to take it later.

My question is: How does one use the 7Sage starter package? Do you have any recommendations on how to use the videos to guide my studying. How many hours should I watch per day? Should I supplement the videos I watch with question sets not included in the quizzes? Do you recommend spending a couple days on a certain section?

I guess what I'm aiming for is to use the actual videos to build an even stronger foundation, however I want to finish that with enough time for me to do just PTs for a solid 3 weeks before the December 3rd exam date.

All in all: How did you use 7Sage to structure your learning? Thanks!

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lawlz so this question is a monster, but watching JY's explanation helped.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-76-section-2-question-24/

He explains that the larger argument pattern is:

A --> absurd

not(absurd)

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not (A)

This really helped clarify what I was seeing here. BUT what I can't really fully understand is why we even need to further connect A-->absurd. Isn't A--->absurd already spelled out to us as a premise? Shouldn't we just accept that is what we're given and prove that the necessary assumption is not(absurd)? I understand how "popular" connects "intending pleasure" to "sales figures" but am failing to understand this on a larger level, I think.

w00t for last minute fine tuning with monster questions!

thanks in advance for any clarification here!

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    WE ARE UNDER 10 DAYS TO GO UNTIL SEPTEMBER TEST DAY. HAIR IS ON FIRE.

    One of my favorite things about 7sage is the analytics section for viewing trends and trying to understand the data of the test and the group of PTs as a whole for each individual 7sager.. But I was wondering if there were analytics or a way to have some indication as to what to expect from upcoming tests. As an example, I suppose it could be that, historically, the hardest tests are December tests, or that an experimental section question makes a real test appearance after (x) amount of tests, or that a test with a lenient curve is followed by an easier test with a stricter curve. Has anyone looked into this? Are there any broad analytics that can give us an indication as to what we should expect? Any advantage is one worth pursuing as far as I'm concerned!

    Thanks for your insight,

    James

    +1 if you get the reference in the title

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    I have just upgraded to ultimate+ from ultimate for the sake of newer PT explanations. I was almost finished with my core curriculum in ultimate account and now the progress bar rolled back.......

    Lost some patience/confidence when I logged in again. Wish there could be a function to let us choose the lower account material only.

    Hopefully there is enough time for Dec Lsat.

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    Hey everyone,

    I'm sure some of you have seen discussions about this too. Can anyone provide conclusive evidence that the writing sample must be written in cursive? I have been told that it needs to be, but I can't find anything that suggests this from the LSAC or in the directions for the writing sample. I really would rather not have to write in cursive, so if someone could put this to bed, I'd be very appreciative. :)

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    Hi guys, I was helping my friend out with conditional logic today because I thought I had a grasp on the material but it turns out I dont....

    So there was a statement from one of his textbooks he asked me to help him out with and I got it wrong.

    Dmitry might play volleyball or squash, but he cant play both.

    (edit meant to say might play not, might can)

    So I thought great this is a bi-conditional because I see or but not both.

    So I made it into: (~V (---) S) & (V (---) ~S),

    But it turns out in his textbook the answer was (S -> ~V) & (V -> ~S).

    So is this a different way of showing the same relationship, if so do you prefer one method over the other?

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    Hey,

    I am having trouble paraphrasing/anticipating the flaw in flaw/descriptive weakening questions that do not possess the typical or cookie cutter flaws.

    I read the stimulus, isolate conclusion and premises, and yet i cannot pin point what is exactly wrong with the stimulus.

    Again, this is more so for the questions that do not fall under the typical flaws we see time and time again.

    I should note, however, that once i get into the answer choices, i seem to do a good in applying the 2 step flaw test which leaves me to getting the answer choice correct or at the minimum , i am left with two possible AC's.

    Now with respect to paraphrasing or anticipating the flaw, Is this something that some of you experience as well, or is it just me?

    also, do a lot of you simply rely on the 2 step test for flaws or are you paraphrasing/ anticipating the answer choice most of the time?

    thank you.

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    I finished community college with by GPA a little over a 3.8. I now have a bit over a 3.9 after a year in the university I transferred to. LSAC processed my GPA as a 3.72.

    71.4 hours earned as As. 14.7 hours Bs. 3 hours C. 3 hours D.

    I repeated that class I got a D in and got an A in it...signed all those forms so that the D wouldn't count against my GPA...LSAC still counts that?

    I also had 4 A+s in university, I thought that LSAC bumps your GPA up with A+s?

    I was thinking I would for sure have at least a 3.8 and I'd be in the 25th percentile of my top schools GPA wise and definitely be able to get merit scholarships if I did well on the LSAT. I'm actually not even in the 50th percentile (3.74 at UCLA).

    I really regret going to community college, I was told even by school counselors that law schools don't even look at your community college GPA, I had no idea that D would effect my life.

    *Should I rethink the schools that I apply to? Should I not even apply this year and stay a 5th year to finish my double major and get my GPA up?*

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    I have started my senior undergrad year, and can only study around 10 hours per week instead of 20-30 that I was in the summer. My PT score has decreased over the last few tests! Is it because of the decreased time spent on studying??

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    Hi Friends :)

    I'm feeling pretty good and ready and confident for 9 *HOLY COW* days from now. Not feeling terribly enthusiastic about taking another PT this weekend. Not sure it'd be that useful. But still might for routine's sake.

    What're your thoughts? Are you going to take a PT this weekend?

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    I have not done PT 67 and 68 and am stuck between saving them in case I need fresh PTs for December (if I need to retake) and using them so I am familiar with the games in them. What do people with experience in those PTs think? I know from discussion threads I have seen (and from looking at the games categorizations) that 67 and 68 both have an unusual game in them. Will I be better off looking at those games or saving them? I certainly feel prepared for a good showing on this exam but with the LSAT you never know. I might be needing to do it again come Dec.

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    In the curriculum, we get insight about jumping over your BR potential. After doing some BR I am happy to see that meeting my BR potential actually puts me into the range I wish to be. So, I need to perfect my skills and the art of BR. But, what if I want to exceed my BR potential? Have any of you done that? If so, what changed? What happened to propel you past your BR potential?

    I ask because my experience with the LSAT comes with waves. I feel like I pick things up and push my score by a decent amount (top of the wave) and then the wave subsides and the scores flatten out until I find that other "aha" moment. So far, and it has been a couple of days of 7sage, I have already had a couple by just taking part of the curriculum. I can't wait to take it to a PT, because I have a feeling this change is serious. Still, I hope to hit my BR potential. Greed being what it is, I also want to exceed it. Any advice from those that have?

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    Usually when I am taking a PT I use a scan tron to make it like real test conditions but I don't bubble the questions on the scantron well I just quickly mark it and move on and then at the end make sure they are all bubbled well. Will I be able to do this for the real thing? Will there be any time after each section or after the entire thing to make sure your answers are bubbled fully?

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