I've been fluctuating anywhere from 158 to 165. I recently scored 165 on test number 60 (the last one I took). I was feeling pretty happy with the improvement I made (diagnostic 154). But I just took the 72 and bombed back down to the 158. I know a lot of people said at first when they hit the 70s, their scores went down. But I honestly can't see why I would have such a massive 7 points down as I really didn't find the fundamentals between the 2 tests that different. Any encouragement or thoughts on this would be helpful. Has anyone seen this happen to them?

Also if you're wondering why I'm skipping around numbers it's because I give my friend a number range and just have her pick one. :)

Hey everyone, hope the studying is going well.

I'm more of the visual learner type and I was wondering if there was any way to download a full pdf-style map of the core curriculum. I could conceivably make it myself but it'd take hours to piece it together. (I'm referring to the colorful bubble diagram used in the lessons.)

Thanks!

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Hey Gang,

LSAT can knock you down sometimes. When that happens there’s only one thing left to do.

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Ok so I'm doing my blind review, and when I initially did the test I chose the correct answer even though I wasn't happy with it because it seemed more like a sufficient assumption to me. I don't have the ultimate package so I don't have the explanation for this so if someone could help me out that would be much appreciated.

When I read this question I immediately found the gap between choose more wisely and emotions unchanged

I was hoping for an answer that bridged the gap ever so slightly without being obnoxious and of course E bridged that gap but the only if really annoyed me

I interpreted E as an SA in my BR because I diagrammed the following:

human emotions unchanged --> humans unable to choose more wisely

contrapositive: humans able to choose more wisely --> humans emotions have changed

This is precisely what E does and so I went with D thinking it was a little better (now I see why it fails)

I guess D when put to the negation test says something along the lines of "humans do not always choose on the basis of their emotions" and in the conclusion it says: "humans are GENERALLY unable to choose more wisely" so the not always wouldn't really be good enough because the conclusion isn't always saying that it's the case that people do not choose more wisely today, it just needs to be true in at least one case.

When E was put to the negation test it seems like it would be something similar to: it's not the case that humans would now be able to make wiser choices than in centuries past only if an essential change had taken place in their emotions, so we can choose wisely without a change in emotions

Overall, really annoyed by this question...would appreciate any input/feedback on what I mentioned above

Thanks!

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Hi guys,

do you guys notice any trends in your PT scores from 60s to 70s in different sections?

Hello, I'm wondering, what and how should we study in this last month? Just reviewing?

Suppose we can devote full-time for studying...what would be the best way to use those time for prep for LSAT?

Thanks,

How do I get the LSAT Trainer in PDF format does anybody know?

So on page 180 (the irony) of the trainer, the last question of the second scenario brings up an interesting point. The scenario is sequencing with in out and the last question of the drill says "If N is performed before M, P will be performed before Q." Where only 5 elements are to be selected, does this mean that N-M guarantees that both P and Q are in? Or if one of P or Q are out, is the necessary still satisfied?

I know this is completely hypothetical and is supposed to be a drill. But I'm not sure if something similar will come up on an actual exam. Sorry if this is a silly question!

If anyone on here speaks Spanish, would you please help me translate this to English and then lawgic:

"Cuando el orden es injusto, el desórden es un comienzo de justicia."

I think it would be: "When order is unjust, disorder gives way to justice."

If that's the proper translation from Spanish to English, I am confused on how to translate it into Lawgic.

For this question, I was able to see that the flaw was a equivocation between a substantial budget and an adequate one. Answer choice E seemed to reflect that train of thought, but I didn't find the wording to be clear. In particular, the answer choice mentions that the meaning of "adequate" needs to be reevaluated in the new context. Wasn't the word adequate brought up only in the conclusion? Where has the stimulus evaluated the use of adequate prior to the conclusion? Additionally, would the "new context" be the during the dissolving of the Soviet threat of confrontation?

Do you think there will be a really hard LG this time around like there was for Sept 2016 (the computer virus game)?

Hello 7sagers, do any of you guys have any tips on how to improve LG timing? I'm always pushing the 35 minute mark if not going over it. I'm honestly not sure if I'm diagramming too much or if I'm just moving to slow. I have the games pretty much down its just the timing issues I'm struggling with. Thanks for reading

What is the consensus on talking about things not explicitly mentioned in your application? In a discussion about social justice, I have a sentence that goes something along the lines of:

"... I have always been inclined to help when I can. For instance, I spent a year as an ****** at *******, I have grown up serving food at ******, and I have helped organize a demonstration on campus to...."

I have listed the first under the extra-curricular section of my application, but the other two have not been mentioned because (a) I don't have a contact for the second one because I don't go on a consistent basis, and (b) there is not a relevant place for me to mention the third one. Should I just leave these two out, or are they worth keeping in there? If it helps, it is part of a larger discussion about why I want to be a lawyer, and less about listing off my accomplishments.

Hey guys I'm having a hard time with this one

For anyone who is willing to try it out can you show me how you diagrammed it and came to choosing A over the others.

Thanks in advance!!

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Hello all,

I was just wondering if I were to upgrade from Starter to Ultimate, I will get the same material as the Ultimate right? Is there a difference between upgrading from Starter to Ultimate as opposed to getting Ultimate outright. I'm on a pretty tight budget so any savings will help! Thanks!

Hi,

So I was doing LG today and met this substitution question...

In sequence games or games you combine rules do you combine rules as you read new rules or you write them separately so when you have this question you can easily notice which rule is substituted?

I was doing PT 73 game 2 and the last question, and I was not sure between B and E because both seem true :(

Hi all,

The logic game section has been the hardest section for me. As soon as I realized LG kept me from reaching 170+, I have been drilling TONs of games for the past several months. I've done drilling every single game from 1-40 for 6 times + almost all sections in 40s, all sections in 50s, and some sections in 60s (I guess that's about 1500 games). I also analyzed my mistakes by creating review notes.

So now I can finish any game and usually have 5-6minutes left after filling in the bubbles. But the problem is I constantly miss 3-4 questions... The worst part is that the questions that I miss are those that I answered with great confidence. I've thought about redoing questions after finishing the section but I think it's a very risky strategy since I can't expect I would have 5-6minutes left on the test day. Also, because I am certain that I have answered all questions correctly, I don't even know which questions I want to re-do and check my work...I have only one month left till the test day and it's really frustrating...

Does anyone have advice...?

Thanks so much!!!

Anyone interested in being PS brainstorm buddies? I am stumbling around trying to figure out how to sum things up and could use a stranger's eyes. You tell me your life story, I'll tell you mine, we can help each other figure out interesting takes. Skye, google chat, texting, phone, who knows.

I'd prefer other older students (people whose statements are not going to be about their undergrad experience and/or who need to cover "why a career change to law"), but I'm open.

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Hey guys, so I started studying around June and have been going pretty consistently for about 4+ hours a day since then and I've noticed that I sometimes some neck pains that get pretty bad and result in me having to just stop studying all together for that day. Do things like that happen to you guys after a while of studying? Do you get any kind of physical pain after a lot of studying or is it just me?

Hey guys! Hope studying is going well! Recently, since starting 7sage a month ago, I've been making pretty solid progress in terms of going through the curriculum. I aiming for 15-20 hours a week. However, I'm also in school full time, and I have an internship so I've found myself burning out, but not so much because of the studying, but because everything else has been piling up. My study time has decreased a lot. Also, I have fall allergies and I live in the NYC area so it has started to get cold. This has affected my energy levels, and on top of everything else, I find myself fatigued and unable to focus which also lowers my productivity effectiveness while studying. I'm not good when it comes to time management and routines and it's hard for me to stick to them. Any help or tips on how you guys do it? Very interested in your suggestions! Thanks!

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Just joined the 7Sage.

I am from India. Currently in my second year of undergraduate studies. Would it be a wise option to pursue law in the US after my undergraduate?

Any help regarding this would be appreciated.

Hello everyone,

I've been studying for this test for the entirety of this year and have moved from a 142 Diagnostic into the 156-159 range. However my BR scores have gone from the mid 160s into the 172-177 range without any movement in my actual score in months. My weakness used to be LG but recently has shifted to RC but I have an overarching timing problem and never finish with time to spare and often have to guess on entire passages/games.

The December test is probably not going to be enough time to fix my issues so I was looking for some advice is bridging this gap. My BR scores are promising but it's so discouraging to continuously crank out scores in the 150s knowing my potential is much higher.

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