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Since I've decided to retake, I have completed three prep tests. Clearly, the scores are inflated because I've already taken them before. For December, I'm planning on dissecting the incorrect questions even more throughly than before. My question remains: How do I judge my improvement now that my PT scores are higher than they are supposed to be? I don't want to walk into December's exam being completely unsure of my range.

Just for clarity, I've already done PTs 53-78, individual sections pre-36 and somewhat in the 40s and early 50s.

Thanks!

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Last comment thursday, oct 27 2016

Second guessing

How do you guys handle second guessing? I'm beyond pissed because I just missed 5pts on a RC section due to second guessing! Obviously, I don't really "get" it, I guess. But I need something deeper than that. RC has always been my worst section so this just makes me hate it even more! The best I've done on RC is -3 during BR but who knows during the timed PT, -30??? Ugh so frustrated! What do you guys do? When under time constraints my performance plummets! Admittedly, I do tend to abandon some of my notations that I do during BR for fear of losing or running out of time.

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Hey All,

I've watched JY's explanation of this video and I'm beginning to see why E could be a correct answer...but I do not understand why it is THE correct answer. I fear that if I was asked this question again, I would still choose B.

Here's my reasoning. The question says that the druid stones discovered in Ireland are very old, but there was a particular druid stone found in Scotland, so, therefore, this one must be more recent. Before approaching the answer choices, I figured, okay...the argument is making an assumption about things found in Scotland. The assumption is that most things found in Scotland (or at the very least, the druid stones found in Scotland) must be newer than druid stones found in Ireland.

Coming from this understanding, I do not understand why B is not the answer. B states that the argument is flawed because it takes the fact that most members of a group (things found in Scotland) have a certain property (newness comparative to Ireland stones) to constitute evidence that all members of the group (including the druid stone found in Scotland) have that property. This embodies the assumption the argument is forcing us to make. Just because some things are newer in Scotland, does mean that everything found in Scotland has this property.

I consider E to be less correct. Where in the argument is it accusing druid stones of being the ONLY members of a group with a certain property? How are we supposed to infer from this argument that the author is making an "Ireland druid stone vs every other druid stone" distinction, rather than an "Ireland druid stone vs. Scotland druid stone" distinction.

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J.Y. and friends,

I qualify for, and will be granted, extended time on the LSAT as an accommodation for my learning disabilities. I have been using the proctor on the 7sage app and i REALLY like it because of the "distraction" features and proctor announcements at the beginning and the "five minutes remaining" at the end. I am having to pause the app mid-test, then use an additional timer to complete the extra minutes using an online timer, then go back and start the app again for new sections. For obvious reasons, I am having trouble emulating "real test conditions" in this way, and it's eating up a lot of time and causing me to lose focus because of the switching back and forth issue. I'm wondering, especially with the new criteria for disability accommodations on the LSAT, if y'all might consider adding a "time and a half" proctor on the app for students with accommodated testing that also has the distraction/background noise feature?

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Hi guys,

Question is here: https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/prehistoric-paintings-weaken-question/

So just to dive deeper and solidify foundation, I tried to translate this question into a logic framework and I wrote it below. Please see if it is done correctly

~Carbon-->Age (if there is no carbon, then we can determine its age)

~Limestone with paint-->~sample (If we there is no limestone with paint, then there is no sample)

~Sample-->~Age (if there is no sample, then we cannot determine its age)

And combine everything together we have: ~Limestone--->~Sample--->~Age-->Carbon

Did I translate it correctly? It feels weird.

Thanks,

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Last comment thursday, oct 27 2016

PT31.S3.Q12 - several recent studies

Hi Gents and ladies,

Just a curious note on a confusion that I have. Question is here: https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/serious-medical-condition-weaken-question/

I knew C is the one to support, but isn't A something wrong too?

In the lecture, JY says don't question the premise, but isn't A doing just that? There are study that confirms it and there is this 1 study that is recent which doesn't. Isn't this an attack?

Some clarifications will do wonders.

Thanks,

Panda

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Any tips on how you guys improved reading comp? I'm signed up for December and have been fool proofing LG's 1-35 and I'm already seeing improvements. I just took PT 62 and scored a 163, which is close to where I want to be.(165+ preferably) My problem is that I scored a 163 despite my terrible RC score. 22/26 and 23/26 were my LR scores as well as a 20/23 for LG... However, I scored a 13/27 on RC. I usually average 16-20 on RC but, 13? lol. Pretty annoying to be honest because I feel like I'm improving everywhere else. I don't even know if there is a clear cut way to improve RC but I guess I'm going to have to incorporate a lot more RC passages into my daily studying. This is more of a rant/ asking for advice type of post. Appreciate any feedback!

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OMG I woke up this morning (living in Beijing) and found that an email from LSAC waiting for me... And I opened it... Bang! 177!

To be honest, I couldn't believe my eyes!

Thank you so much 7Sage. This is a huge increase from my 161 on September 2014 LSAT. The blind review method and the study group was sooooo helpful! This would not have been possible without JY and 7Sage community.

Ahhh I'm so happy right now <3

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Will I get in?

So my top choice for law school is UBC, and I have a GPA on par with their requirements (83%). But my LSAT score is a 10 points below what they say they have as their 'average' for the previous year. Should I even apply? Or simply wait and plan to re-write? Do I have a chance?

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Hey All,

I've been taking PTs in order (starting from the ancients working up through the 30s). As I'm progressing, I'm noticing a decrease in my score, and it's occurred to me that it's probably because LSAC has implemented some changes in the 2000s. Reading some other discussions, it seems that there are certain focuses that change in the tests as they get newer. I'm wondering if a better strategy would be to mix them up (take a 30 one week, then a 40, then a 50, etc.)? Or should I continue to work on the older ones as I learn and improve my score and save the newer (more relevant) ones for when I get closer to test day?

Thoughts?

(Also, side note- if I have questions on a certain LR question, where can I go to get people's input? I've been commenting on JY's explanatory videos, but there doesn't seem to be much discussion going on there. Considering I've been taking older tests, it doesn't seem that the BR Groups will help me at the moment either.)

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Hey 7Sagers!

I'm usually a pretty positive person, but being this close to the December LSAT and seeing my score fluctuate (usually anywhere between 2-5 points) is starting to drive me nuts. In need of a good pep talk!

How do you guys deals with lower scores in your PTs? I try to learn from them and take them as a positive feedback to acknowledge what I need to work on, but get very, very frustrated and discouraged whenever I don't see an increase in my score after drilling and BRing like crazy.

I was hoping to see a steady increase in my score leading up towards December, but it hasn't quite happened yet (have only seen an increase in my BR score and am having trouble closing that gap).

Your input and kind words are much appreciated, as always!

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Last comment wednesday, oct 26 2016

LR Crash Course

Hey everyone!

Decided to write in February again. Thought I was doing well with the BR method prior to writing in September. Managed to get down to about -4/5 per LR section (which is okay for my goal score) however I ended up losing several more points per LR section than expected on PT79.

Was hoping to get input on additional prep materials for this section? (I will continue to use the BR method in the meantime).

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Hi guys,

So I purchased the kindle version of PT75 and it is terrible! The formatting is a bitch. And say hypothetically if someone were to convert it to pdf to print it for practice, the terrible formatting carries on into pdf (again purely hypothetical). Is it hypothetically possible to reformat it to look like the print version and what would the steps be? Also is there a place to purchase soft copies of the Preptests which are properly formatted? Are the nook, kobo or itunes versions any better?

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    Last comment wednesday, oct 26 2016

    LR

    I am not the best with logic reasoning. But, I am usually able to get the answer down to something, and E. Is E normally a correct choice in this section? And any tips of how to answer some LR questions? I have find the main conclusion down.

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