Hey guys! Who is to sign the Transcript Request Form? Myself or the registrar? Thanks.

Hi everyone,

Sort of a long question. TL;DR: How strongly can I lean on my good graduate GPA vs my weaker undergraduate GPA when looking at places to apply?

For the sake of argument let's assume that my LSAT score is at, or slightly above a given school's median... Now for the background.

My undergraduate GPA (converting it from UK grades using an online tool) is a disappointing 3.64. However my graduate GPA (also converted with the same tool) for my recently completed Master's Degree is 3.95, which will go up to 3.98 if my thesis comes back at my expected grade come November. I got my 2 degrees at 2 different universities, but both are members of the Russell Group (sort of the UK equivalent to the Ivy League, except maybe less prestigious). Basically it's not the case that I simply got the better grades somewhere less rigorous, I just developed a lot between degrees. For what it's worth I also did a full credit undergraduate class at Harvard one year during my undergrad as part of their summer school program, for which I got an A.

This 3.64 UGPA is at or below the 25th percentile for most T14 schools. However, that's is in the past and my most recent GPA from graduate school would put me in almost any school's 75th percentile. I'm almost certain my undergraduate GPA will hold me back somewhat, but I'm wondering if I should I let it entirely put me off applying to places where it's below the median, given that my graduate GPA is so much better? In other words, is it unreasonable of me to think that my graduate GPA can make up for a slightly weak undergraduate GPA?

Thanks!

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Who counts? Do uncles and aunts by blood count? What about cousins?

Hey guys, I am currently reading thru the Trainer to enhance 7sage CC, while I find the vast majority of the content are extremely consistent to our CC, there are yet a few things in the Trainer I was just like "wut?" In other words, kinda contradicting to what i'v learned so far. Maybe It was just me not understanding it correctly, so I went back to our CC to double check and here is what have:

In our CC the logical indicator "only" is group 2,which introduces necessary condition.

Example in our CC: Only fish swim: S -> F Contro: /F-->/S

Trainer example: I only work on Tuesdays. Sarah only date funny boys.

So I translated them as: T --> W and F --> D, but the answer is: W --> T and D --> F, which it does make sense in sensical ways, but I'm trying understand what i did wrong there in terms of applying the translation rules of "only"? What makes W and D a sufficient condition in this case despite the fact that they are following "only" like how we would translate "Only fish swim".

Another one in Trainer: "All employees must wash their hands" which translates as E --> W. Nothing controversial here, but then it further states that another way of indicating this would be "Employees are required to wash their hands" and "require to" informs of what must the consequence of being an employee, which is W (wash hands). In other words, W is the necessary condition.

Example in our CC: "Practice is required to be a skilled artist" which translates as SA --> P, for P is "required" hence necessary condition. which I totally understand and agree, and this has been the way I was trained, but wouldn't that make "Employees are required to wash their hands" translate as: W ---> E as opposed to the other way around demonstrated in the Trainer? What is going on here? I'm sure it's me so what did I do wrong here? :D

Last one I promise lol how would you guys translate "All animals other than whales love music"? I translated it as W ---> /M (If one is a whale then one doesn't love music, if one loves music, one is not a whale) and the answer is W/ ---> M.

Thanks so much in advance fellow 7sagers, any clarification would be much appreciated!

I have read in quite a number of forums that the 70's PTs are tougher than the 60's PTs, or at least that peoples scores go down when they break into the 70's. I haven't taken any of the 70's yet, but I have taken some 60's (61,62,63,69) and a number from 30-59 (like 15). So can anyone, without spoiling anything in the PTs I haven't seen, explain a bit about why people are having more trouble with the 70's and how I can avoid it?

Since the day of the exam, people have been discussing the dreaded "virus game" What kind of game was it ? What made it so difficult?

Most LR questions have a missing assumption and I think that is where I am having trouble. Sometimes the assumptions are very fuzzy to me...it's like I have an idea of what is missing but I can't put my finger on it. It has been frustrating! But I am glad that I am figuring out what I am needing to work on.

What is your suggestion of improvement for identifying assumptions?

7Sage has to be one of the most remarkable communities I have had the privilege to be a part. I was so stressed and burnt out last week that my hair was falling out and had to completely dis-engage from the LSAT. Just returning tonight, my heart is full and more tears are falling down my face for the love and appreciation for all of my friendships.

The inspiration that you have given me has solidified my decision to register for December knowing that you can achieve so much more when you have a community of support. I didn't change my gravatar from a "snail" to "scrappy doo" for nothing! If I have any hair left after Dec/Feb test dates, I will post a picture of myself:)

Here is what happened to me so wake up and learn from my mistakes!!!

The week prior to the test – I wrote down my guestimate of a realistic breakdown knowing that RC and hard NA/Weaken LR's were my Achilles heel.

LR -4, LR-4, RC -6/7, LG -0/1

Which would have placed me in the mid-160’s range and with a plan to work on the weaknesses for Dec.

I scored 160... Kicker is - I GOT the Virus Game correct but how do you recover from -11 on RC???

I have been breaking down the analytics of the test and here is what I have found so far…

My actual scores:

LR -7, RC -11, LR -6, Exp, LG -3

- One thing I know for sure is that my prep did not provide the stamina required for test day.

- LR1: I hit a rough patch starting at Q17 thru Q24 missing 6/8, lost focus and confidence

- RC: The Aileen Gray passage -3, but the kicker is time management, -6 of last 7 Q’s

- LR2: Missed 3/4 Q9-12 and then 3/4 Q19-22 Need to evaluate Q Types or figure out why the clusters of misses

- LG: Stupid mistake G2, missed 2 stupid G3 b/c I raced thru it to work on Virus Game with it having 6 Q’s & had miscue resetting watch so had no reference of time on the section for pacing

I smiled when I got my score because I actually took the LSAT and scored 80th percentile - however big huge crocodile tears were falling down my face out of sadness that I hadn’t gotten closer to the mid-160’s. I desperately needed a break after all the stress of the past few months compounded by a lot of personal stress with my family. But it is funny that my brain needs to be challenged and I have been playing around with LG games and my favorite LR question types from misc pages I had already printed. Yeah, I know, everyone says I “ain’t right” with how I choose to relax, heehee.

Last Wednesday, it felt like I had a bucket of ice water poured over my head and I just need to center myself. It has taken some time away to regroup and figure out if I can increase my score to the higher 160’s when I really need a low 170 to go to law school. With the help of this incredible community, I believe in ALL of us to try to achieve our highest abilities.

Thank you for your support to not give up and if I can provide any info on my personal experience, please let me know. One thing I promise, no matter what happens, I will learn to not get so over-stressed that it makes me remove myself from a community I care about and will be there for all of you as you continue your prep.

Love you all,

T

Do you think that I have a chance for either NYU or Columbia with a 170 and 3.9 GPA but no extracurriculars. I scored 6 points lower than my average LSAT practice tests on the September exam

Hi,

How to use the PT you have already done efficiently?

Even the last time you did it is a couple of month ago, if you did BR throughoutly,

you must remember some essense from it right?

How to use PT second time efficiently?

Or if you finish new PT, it is better to do older ones?(ones you have not seen yet)

Do you re-watch JY's explanation?

Thanks

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-38-section-2-game-2/

Hey, guys I'm having a problem with understanding the first rule of this stupid game.

So the first rule goes 'Frank demonstrates exactly one task before Gladys demonstrates any of the task'

and JYP drew a sequence from this rule as this:

G

F (

G - F

It looks kind of weird but what this is basically saying F is both of Gs and the other F is after only one G

But when I first mapped this rule out I drew

F(G, )F

G

what I was trying to say is BOTH of Gs appear before the other F not just one G

I just can't wrap my head around why F should only follow after ONE G not BOTH of them especially given that Frank should appear exactly once before any of G.

But the way JYP mapped this out allows the possibility of something like F,G,F,G

and in this case for the latter G TWO Fs appear before it. Isn't this against contradicting what the rule says?

Hope somebody can help me out with this please!

I was able to speak with one of the test writers at a LSAC forum and wanted to share:

I asked this test writer if there was a reason why LSAC is throwing "odd ball" games at us more often. He informed me that LSAC is aware of the mechanical approach test prep companies teach their students and worry this is defeating the purpose of the section. He realizes that most students may wonder, "Why am I solving games with animals?? I want to be a lawyer!" The purpose of the LG section is to prepare us to read a set of facts and determine what must be true, what can be true, and what must be false. Much like how we'll read statutes such as the infamous U.S. Tax Code and have to determine what's required, what's allowed, and what's forbidden. If you keep this in mind, you'll never be caught off guard.

Hope this sheds some light!

I apologize ahead of time if there is another post/thread that explains things, but I don't fully comprehend the blind review group system. How do I join a group? And how are the BR materials for this group determined? What is the system behind what PT is studied for the BR schedule? haha

Regardless, I am eager to join in on a group. I desperately need help particularly with LR!!

I registered for the December exam.

@david.busis If I am writing the same organization over and over again, do I keep writing out the full name or do I abbreviate after the first time. In this instance National Christian College Athletic Association could be shortened to NCCAA after the first appearance (it appears three times on my résumé). I thought you had something on this in the admissions starter but then I couldn't find it (which could mean I was mistaken or that I just missed the appropriate section the second time).

Good morning my fellow 7sagers. Myself and several other Detroit area students have decided to form a study group that will meet on Tuesday and Thursday from 530p-:830p and Sunday 3:30-6:30. The location hasn't been decided as we are waiting to make it more convenient for all who wish to attend. If interested inbox me or drop a few lines below.

Proctors:

They have 3 proctors and they are very quiet throughout the whole process. They are not super familiar with the rules but you can tell that they have past experience as proctors for LSAT and are very very nice people.

Facilities:

Bathroom is very close to the classroom and is large enough to accommodate the test takers.

What kind of room:

Normal size classroom with AC on (Taiwan is still hot in September).

How many in the room:

They scheduled it 8*7, but about 30-40% of people didn't show up. So about 30 people in the room.

Desks:

Classroom-size desk and chair.

Left-handed accommodation:

Not sure.

Noise levels:

Quiet. At 9:30AM there were some noise because another test administered by ETC is happening downstairs. Didn't bother me that much.

Parking:

I walked to the test center, but, well, it's Taiwan. Why would you want to drive to the test center in Taiwan?

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

The test takers were split into two classrooms so the waiting time is not very long. I think we started before 9.

Irregularities or mishaps:

Didn't notice.

Other comments:

I like this test center a lot. Taipei in general is a relaxing place and the locals are super nice. There are also a lot of good food in this area, so I enjoyed staying there.

The classroom located in the International building, which is on the right side when you enter the main gate. You have to go all the way down the hall to the elevators. The location of the classrooms for LSAT won't be posted until the morning of the test, so don't worry.

And an very important notice: don't mistake National Taiwan University of Science and Technology from National Taipei University of Science and Technology. They are two different schools and located in different part of the city.

Would you take the test here again?

Yes, definitely. I also recommended this test center to my friends.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: September 25, 2016

After mulling over my September score a couple days now and trying to assess where I went wrong, I am wondering if I was too confident on gameday.

Before going into the test, I knew that I had some anxiety about performance. I tried to mitigate that by mentally preparing myself in advance, telling myself to find a balance between confidence and nervousness, and believing in my training. On gameday, I was calm and and after the test, I felt that I had done better than expected. I thought I would've scored above average.

However, my actual score does not reflect how I felt. In fact, I scored outside even my lowest expected score. It's hard to accept this score when I thought I did everything correctly, that I placed so much mental effort into focusing to do well. Now I'm thinking that I was too confident on gameday. This made me complacent, and this feeling led me to deviate from my normal test taking strategies.

For December, I have to find a better balance between confidence and being aware of complacency. Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else experienced this, and how are you planning to overcome this aspect of the test?

What are some ways you've used that were successful in increasing your LSAT score?

December LSAT is around the corner, and it would be nice to hear some tips on controlling test day anxiety!

Thanks in advance. :)

Hi guys, so I have decided to put off my LSAT date until next september so I can focus on my last semesters of school. However, I want to continue to do logic games so that I wont have to restart studying when I finish my degree (April). I have the cambridge packets and was wondering if it would be a good idea to spread them out between January - April. There are 152 games games which would mean that I do around 10 games a week. Would this be an efficient way to study? Maybe do 3 games, redo them the next day and repeat?

Hello everyone; I'm back!

Short version - I work full time, and then have other things in my life which can't be compromised or ignored. I spend about 10 hours a week on average studying for the LSAT. I should be going for at least 14, but finding that extra four hours is hard enough when the 10 hours is already a battle. At the latest, I'd like to take the December 2017 LSAT. The September LSAT is my goal, but I'll postpone if I still show reasonable improvements. My analytics show where I need to catch up to be up to par with the rest of 7Sage, and I agree that my analytics are accurate representations of my strengths and weaknesses at the moment. With my limited schedule, would it be better for me to stay on target with the Core and then do the PTs, or focus on the Analytics. There are disadvantages of both. Completing the entire core first may result in me wasting time on areas I'm already good with when I could have been taking more PTs and focusing on my weaker areas. The focus on Analytics results in burning through more tests for minor victories.

Also, I'd like to tell everyone that I'm back, and to thank you for talking me out of the June 2016 LSAT. I was going to start studying again, but then I got hit by a truck. I got out of physical therapy a month ago, and that's when I enrolled into 7Sage.

Looking for some input. I have found that overwhelmingly the questions I mark for BR are questions that I am getting right while the questions I am missing are ones that I am not marking for BR. This seems to indicate to me that I am under confident on certain types of questions and over confident on others. Has anyone else experienced this and if so how did you work on getting your BR to better focus on your weaknesses? For example I marked 12 LR questions total for BR while taking PT 70 yesterday, of those 12 I only ended up getting 2 of them wrong during the test. I realize the benefit of using BR to reinforce concepts you know but are not confident on, but I would like it to also better reflect my weaknesses.

Hi guys,

So I am planning on creating a warm up routine for all my prep-tests in the run up to test day. Can you guys provide me with inputs regarding:

a) the time I should take for warm-up;

b) the number and type of questions I should do;

c) the sections I should do;

d) the type of questions or sections I should avoid.

Also given that on test day, the clerical procedure before the exam will take around hour, what step should I take to not 'cool down'? And how many hours before the test should I do the warm-up? Any other suggestions or considerations will also be appreciated. Thanks.