I have one quick question, Is taking the December LSAT too late for admissions? any experiences? I plan to have all my work paper work submitted as I prepare, and have everything turned in before DEC 31. Since this would be my first time taking the test, I won't have a score to report, would that hurt my admission chances?

Can anyone point me in the right direction to the December 2016 Blind Review Group? I don't know if one has been set up yet, although I do know there is currently a group for the September 2016 test. Would certainly appreciate it. Thanks

I was just setting up my schedule for the academic year and realized that once I take out hours for lectures, studying, work, etc, I'll have roughly 10 h/week left for studying the LSAT.

I plan to take the LSAT in June 2017. Is spending 10 hours a week (plus a lot more during winter break) from September to June enough of a time commitment to ensure that I get a score that reflects my maximum potential?

I was thinking that I'd take one PT per week, do a thorough blind review, and then spend the rest of my allotted LSAT study time doing drills focusing on my weaknesses + reviewing parts of the Core Curriculum again whenever I need to. I've already read The LSAT Trainer and I'm going to be finished with the Core Curriculum in a couple of weeks, so I think I'll be in pretty good shape to start PTing by September.

Any advice will be very much appreciated!

Hey 7sagers,

I watched this video for the first time last night and I thought it was really motivational, especially now that the September LSAT is around the corner. Wanted to share it.

Let’s push through the last month strong!

With the September LSAT knocking on the front door, I planned a week of vacation away from work about 2 weeks before the exam, with the goal of reducing any work-related stress to have better focus. What is the best plan of attack for September studying? Do a few PTs, but nothing too new? Focus on fine tuning reading comprehensive (my lowest scoring area)? Go on vacation, get a great tan, and try not to think about it?

.....what gives bro? I feel that these are so much harder than earlier ones that I've taken. I'm marking somewhere around 20 questions for BR in each LR section. Just took PT 66 and I feel like I just got rekt; felt like I was just reading words and not understanding them.

I've read that as you go higher in the PTs, the harder they get...but dang.

So I just took this practice test today and I noticed that the reading comprehension was much easier, whereas LR was moderately difficult but the games were much more difficult (usually my best section). What are your guys's experience with this test

when it asks *which one of the following could be all of the solos that are traditional pieces?* does this mean it asks a scenario in a particular sub game board or all possible places in all sub game boards? how do they ask differently if it asks about possible spaces one can be put in all sub game board??

Hi, just wondering...

And would like to hear from someone who did old games...

Do you think if we do more old games, it helps to solve those irregular newer games? :(

If so, from which PT to which PT would you suggest to do??

Thanks in advance!

Hey there!

I've written the test already twice and did not do well at all (146 and 150). I took it before reading up on anything and totally didn't take into account the "don't write if you're not ready" mantra. I didn't put much thought into the process and wrote my first time after only 6 weeks of studying. Nevertheless, I think I know the test pretty well and since I've started taking 7Sage and doing Blind Review, I already feel much more confident for my third and final write. I honestly feel that the more I keep up with 7Sage and LSAT Trainer and Blind Reviewing, I could actually jump up 8-10 points by December (very optimistic, I know). My concern is, I wonder if it will be to my disadvantage when I apply to schools this November with two poor LSAT scores and a pending December score. I'm worried schools will disregard my application right away before my third score comes in.

Thoughts?

I received a free Princeton Review textbook that had a practice test in the back. It is not an actual LSAT that has been administered it was made by the princeton review people. I scored so so low compared to other tests and I am wondering if this means I am doing worse or if it's the fact that it wasn't a real lsat. The questions were completely different from what I have seen (in my opinion) and the logic games far more confusing and complex then anything I have seen and I have taken over 16 PT's. Someone help.

Hi all. Does anyone have any advice about the deferral process? I'm looking at Top Tier (really top 6) schools and thinking about applying this fall and potentially deferring for a year if I get in. I don't want to put off applying because there's a chance that I may not want to defer. Does anyone know how difficult it is to get a deferral from Harvard, Yale, Columbia etc.?

Can we use the old PTs (7 - 18, 19 - 28) to practice timed LR sections, or are they so completely different from the newer PTs as to be irrelevant?

Hang in there folks.

And remember, PT 78 next Wednesday!

Saturday, August 20th at 8PM ET: PT 71

Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/219480381

Please click the link and comment if you plan on participating.

You can also dial in to the BR call by using your phone.

United States +1 (571) 317-3112

Access Code: 219-480-381

The Full Schedule

And if you’d like to see the full schedule for upcoming reviews, here it is:

https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=7sage.com_ft05lsm54j4ec1s6kj1d1bbpv0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Chicago

Note:

So, I've decided to postpone my test date from September to December as well as Signup for 7sage. I've been scoring in the 155-157 and I really want to be in the mid- high 160s. Did I make the right decision? ugh I hope I did, Why is this process so difficult ?!?! Im really good at LG, I'm usually finishing with 4-5 min left and getting 20 -23 correct. It seem as though i just can't win with LR and reading comp, my scores fluctuate between those two. Im hoping my signing for 7sage will really help me, I'm going crazy because i just can't seem to hit the 160 range! It's a terrible feeling.

Hi everyone. I took my diagnostic finally...and got a 146. However, that is AFTER inishing the curriculum first. It's just an awful feeling. I know it's the first test, but I finished the curriculum first and still only got 146. Do I even have a shot at getting a decent score? *sigh*

DELETED

Hi guys so I just started the logic games part of the curriculum. It seems like JY's videos focus a lot less on teaching you inference rules/tricks/notations than certain books do..am I correct in this observation? What I am trying to get at is there doesn't seem to be much up front info other than going through the actual game. So are we supposed do develop our own methodology as we do LG's and review the explanations?

For reading comp. I have had a really hard time cutting down my time less than 6:30 mins per passage and 5 mins per section of questions. When I shorten my time, I rush through the questions and miss it because of a simple misread. Would it be better to slow down and just skip the last passage in order to get more answers correct??

Hey everyone, I have an inquiry into GPA improvements and disabilities. When I transferred to a 4 year, I thought that I was going to be pre-med. Long story short: I dropped both my intro chem classes and the labs associated. Consenquently, I ended up with a 2.25. However, winter term I showed an improvement. My GPA when from a 2.25 to a 3.5. In spring, I managed to extend that to a 3.3. (We're talking individual terms. My overall GPA is a 3.24). I know that I'm still in undergraduate and going to be a junior, but what do you guys suggest that I do from here on (besides GPA)? In addition, I have a documented disability.

I received my undergraduate transcript today, and found out that it did not show any of my co-curricular activities involvement on campus. It only showed my academic information. Will law school admission team think that I did nothing outside of the classroom? Of course I will list my involvement in my resume, but will law school believe it?

This is a principle question.

I'm actually completely lost on this one.

I thought the principle to be extracted from the stimulus was somewhere along the lines of, in order to gain acceptance for a theory, there needs to be some evidence to support the ideas expounded in the theory.

The reason I thought this was because even though scientists did not find such a force as evidence, new instruments allowed continental movement to be confirmed by observation which I thought acted as evidence.

A) No idea what to make of this or do with this

B) Doesn't do anything to the argument. In this particular theory science has not identified the force, so this answer choice is irrelevant.

C) This I think could be considered irrelevant, this changes the scope of the argument. Measuring instruments appear to make theories harder to work out, what does that have to do with the stimulus? Absolutely nothing.

D) Science is concerned with mass behavior, ok, but what does mass behavior have to do with a force that can make the continents move? Nothing. I think this is irrelevant.

E) This is the correct answer. I can see how this could be correct because there is no explanation for the posited theory, yet the evidence is there/detected.

I guess if someone could explain why A is wrong and why E is correct that would be great. I was really confused with this question.

Proctors: The proctors were great! The main proctor was actually one of the admission counselors for the Law School. She gave a nice little icebreaking speech about the tests’ importance and why cheating could ruin all of our hard-work. I have heard horror stories where the proctors at schools will constantly try to recruit the people taking the test but there was none of that here; very professional. 5/5

Facilities: Arizona Summit is located in the heart of downtown Phoenix, but the unique thing about the school is that it located in the top half of the building it is in. So the room where we actually took the test was located on the 17th floor. You do have to go through a security guard to get into the building but he basically just waved me through. 5/5

What kind of room: The testing room was actually one of the classrooms. Spacious room will long rows of desks arched through it. The view was incredible but I can see someone who isn’t really fond of heights maybe being a little queasy. 4/5

How many in the room: Honestly I wasn’t really paying attention to the other people in the room but I would say there was approximately 40 people in there. I know the classroom next door was administering a test as well.

Desks: The desks were perfect for the amount of people we had. They were more like long tables than desks. They put a space between everybody so there was enough room to stretch and have twenty pencils around you. 5/5

Left-handed accommodation: This didn’t seem to be an issue. I am left-handed but I was seated in the middle of the long-table-desks so I was perfectly fine. 5/5

Noise levels: This was my biggest fear going into desk day and I was so relieved I didn’t have a noise problem. The proctors did not speak with each other or do anything distracting during the sections. Also since we were on the 17th floor street noise was non-existent. 5/5

Parking: The biggest negative of this test center. Being that it is located in downtown Phoenix finding parking was the worst. I actually e-mailed the school before test day asking the best place to park and they gave me directions to a parking garage. The morning of the test there was an event going on downtown and the parking garage was full (I was an hour and a half early.) -____- Downtown has so many streets where you can only go one way, so you have to go down extra streets to get to the spot you need to go to. I found a garage 2 streets away but had to pay 14 dollars to park. 1/5

Time elapsed from arrival to test: I arrived to the test pretty early but the good thing was they didn’t have you sitting around in some random lobby. They were prepared and checked everyone in as they came and led them to their testing room. I just soaked up the view and made small-talk with the other early students. 5/5

Irregularities or mishaps: One BIG SCARY problem almost occurred but it turned out not to be a problem at all. 30 minutes before the test was about to start a big helicopter flew into downtown and was just hovering like two blocks from our building. It was so loud. People began to get nervous because it didn’t leave until 5 minutes before the official time. N/A

Other comments: During break time they had a little lobby where they had a table full of snacks (chips, crackers, cookies) and water bottles. It was very thoughtful! 

Would you take the test here again?

YES! YES! YES! (Shout-out to the now retired Daniel Bryan.) Actually thinking about taking in June and will be picking this center. This was a re-take for me and this center was such a huge improvement from my first time (review to come soon).

Ok, I have two non related questions, but did not want to clog up the discussion thread.

1. I had a professor drop the ball on me. She had agreed to write a LOR, then later said she wouldn't be able to due to time constraints. Even though, she still has a month and she has known about this for 2 months. It was BS, but here is my question. I have a great review from another professor, and will be able to get a great one from my supervisor who I have worked for for a year. Will it hurt me big time to only have one LOR from a prof? I have taken a lot of online classes, so I do not have many options as far as profs that will be able to write a great one for me.

2. I have recently found out that you should submit your resume during the application process. Is this true? I own a small Etsy.com shop with my sister. It has been quite successful over the last 3 years. Like 30k revenue each year. Will adding this on my resume hurt me? I know of the 20 hour a week work week rule for law students. I do not want them to think I will be too busy or breaking that rule. I plan to fully hand over day-to-day operations to my sister during law school.

Hey, 7Sagers! Got a question from a student that I thought you guys could help me out with. Here it is:

I'd love to get your advice.

I've been studying for the LSAT for about 4 months. I've been scoring in the high 150s for my last five practice tests but this past weekend I scored a 169 and then went back down to 157. I took the test I scored a 157 on at home around 9pm (after studying for 4 hours in the afternoon). I took the 169 test the day before, at 10am in the library (no studying beforehand, and the last PT I took before that was 5 days prior)

Is the 157, most likely closer to what my performance will be in September given that it's been closer to my previous tests (158, 159, 159) or is it possible for me to score consistently in the high 160s beforehand.

Also, can you explain the sudden increase from high 150s to high 160s?