For MSS/must be true questions on RC that don't have a point of view in the question stem, can we assume that they are looking for what the author thinks? Ex:what is most strongly supported? What can be inferred from the passage?

Hi everyone. I'm writing to you all to get some advice and guidance about my dilemma (and hopefully ease my nerves). So here's my situation. I work full-time and been out of school since 2007, I started studying back in June with Powerscore's program (I know, I know, please don't judge) and originally planned to take October LSAT. I had surgery at the end of July and was out of the studying game for several weeks, which set me back a lot. My boyfriend and I talked, weighed my pros and cons, and we both decided it was best to push my test back to December to get me more time to study. We found 7Sage and I began their starter package in September. My scores haven't been great, mid-140s PT and low160s BR, which is obviously no where near my target score (165+). My strengths are LG and RC, but I'm absolutely horrible at LR, during timed and BR. After each BR, I feel I know the information, understand it, but when I take another PT, I choke. I've never been a good standardized test taker, so I knew going into this I had a big challenge to overcome. I know progress takes a while, but here we are 3 weeks to December's test and my PTs are bad. My boyfriend thinks I should take December's test as planned, see what score I get and use it as a trial run so I'm prepared when I take it in June 2016. My concerns with his suggestion is I waste my first test, in case I need to retake it in October 2016 (after June 2016 test) and secondly, I'll have to explain to all my schools why I scored so badly the first go around, if I score well on the June 2016 test. So here's my question, should I cancel my December test or not? At this point I know I need more time to study and go over the material again, luckily I haven't exhausted all my PT, 50-75 left. I definitely underestimated how much time I needed to study. With working M-F 8-5, I cram in about 4 hours each evening and put in another 6-8 each day on Saturday and Sunday, so I know I'm overloading myself and not allowing the information to absorb. I appreciate everyone's thoughts and comments about my situation and welcome any advice you send my way. Thank you.

Hi guys,

When you come across a group 3 and group 4 indicator in the same sentence ("cannot" and "unless"), which rule do you use? e.g. the group 3 or group 4 rule. Basically, how do I react to multiple indicators from multiple groups in the same sentence?

I can't find the answer in my notes. I think it is somewhere in the core c. I don't know where.

Thanks.

Hi 7Sage community,

I had a non-LSAT related question I was hoping to get advice in. As I have been thinking about possible job placements after law school and continue to get experience at my firm, I am realizing I am not very passionate about becoming an attorney. I am interested in law but I am much more interested in the scholarly side of it and the theory behind it than in the practice of it. Most of the attorney I work with are not very happy people but more importantly I do not relish the idea of being stuck in front of a computer 65-80 hours a week drafting motions (most likely for not very good people or corporations). I have always wanted to end my career teaching at a college or university no matter what I decided to study but the more I think about it, the more that is actually all I want to do.

So I was wonder what people think about a JD for an academic career? I know most professors do not have a JD but I don't know if this is because most JDs don't want to teach or because most universities and colleges don't want JDs teaching? I would love to teach law but could also enjoy teaching American politics for example and am trying to decide whether law school is right for me now.

Part of my dilemma exist because I believe I would enjoy the study of law and teaching it as I enjoy reading law journals just for fun (though partially to improve RC). But part of my dilemma might also be coming from having invest so much time, energy, and money into the LSAT and the law school application process. I am scoring around a 167 on my PTs now and am only 8 PTs in so I have a lot of room for improvement and can likely get into a T-14 if I push a little more. On the other hand I have no idea how I would do on the GRE or what my chances are of getting into a top Ph.D. program. But I don't want to continue down this path if it is not the best way to realize my career goals. So that is why I am asking for advice. Is a JD a good option for pursuing a career in academia? Especially if I have better chances of attending an elite law school than an elite Ph.D. program (maybe)? Or should I just cut my losses in the law school admissions process and try to get into a Ph.D. program?

Thanks in advance for any and all advice!!!!

Sincerely,

Confused Post-grad

Does anyone know when the new test from Super Prep II will be added to the grader?

So I recently took RC 67 and I saw a relatively large drop in RC score. While I admit that I have paid less focus to RC and this was the first test I really implemented 7Sage/Trainer strategies in my approach, and this may have slowed me down, I also think this set was relatively more difficult. I found myself bogged down in the first few passages and didn't get to the fourth at all, something I haven't done since my diagnostic. Passage 3 was difficult for me and had only 5 questions while Passage 4 had 8 questions that would have been relatively easy points upon my BR.

So my question to you all is, have you found any benefit in skipping around passages and putting some early work into those with the most questions?

Hey All,

I am scoring 10+ points more on PTs that I have already taken 2 months ago ...I don't think I remember the answers as its been some time since I looked at these but I am wondering if anyone else is experiencing this...I am not sure how telling it is and how accurate retaking PTs can be. The only difference is that I already have a satisfactory LSAT score and I am taking these PTs with less anxiety but if I plan to take another LSAT in December I am not sure if this means i have skewed scores or it finally clicked.

Let me know if anyone else has experienced something similar. Thanks!

Just curious how all the really experienced PTers are logging your retakes of PTs? Are you scoring them in the system just like you do others. I started taking a PT this morning that I didn't realize I had taken before until I got about 5 questions completed & for some reason I never logged my original test, so I have no idea how I did not it before. It was most likely before I started on the 7Sage curriculum, after I got my LSAT Actual Preptest books. I'm concerned about logging it into the system, since it may actually skew my averages because I'm noticing some familiarity with the questions and answer choices.

How many prep tests before the actual exam? And how many should you do a week BR included? Keep in mind I'm a full time employee. All suggestions and comments welcome. Thank you :)

I am curious to what degree it will affect my application if I do not disclose my gender, financial or ethnic identity. I am a straight white male from a relatively wealthy family, and I feel that providing this information will in no way benefit me. I am concerned that it might even negatively affect my applications. But what is the result of my not providing this information? Will that hurt me? I am applying only to T14 schools, if that matters.

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Hello, I took the LSAT twice already so I really need help to understand if I should take the Dec 2015 test or Feb 2016 test for Fall 2016 entry into law school. I cancelled my first score, and my second score is in the mid 150s. I really need a 167 to get into my top choice. I've been studying everyday for the last month but I still feel unprepared. I've been scoring 162-164 on my PT exams, with 167-170s on my BR. I noticed that on the test day, I had to reread many stims and paragraphs, which delayed me significantly. I am trying to get better at that.

I have 18 more days of prep left for the Dec. 2015 test, which I am registered for. Please let me know if you have any tips for how I can achieve at least a 167 on the test day and if you think I should take the Feb 2016 exam instead. I also plan on applying ED to the school because I do not plan on taking financial aid.

I appreciate your help during these very stressful times!

Hey, does anyone know if any of the T-14 law schools place special emphasis on targeted letters of recommendation?

In my knowledge Stanford Law School website does mention " Please be aware of the high value Stanford places on school-specific letters of recommendation", are there any others?

Stim says: European music is sophisticated because it's intelligible

The choice D says: unintelligibility and "most" sophisticated music is correlated

Since D only talks about "most sophisticated music" it can still be compatible with stim, which only refers to sophisticated music.

how can one explain this choice, mainly the difference in degree in D?

I'm looking for an online study buddy. I'm taking the February test and am at about a 165. I have trouble with my LG setup, but am good at RC. I want to go over sections together, have timed test taking and review. My skype name is Katie Ringrose and I'm from Tacoma, Wa.

Hi guys, I'm a pretty average test taker with scores that are placing me right in the middle of the pack after several months of training. Most recently, I hit 155 while only getting 8 questions correct in the games section. It is my biggest impediment by far.

Here are my questions:

1. I recall JY said something along the lines that "at some point" logic games will just click for you." Has anyone with more studying under their belt been consistently bad at this and then finally broken through?

2. Is it normal to have so many problems with games? My performance on the games in the analytics dashboard is pretty bad when compared against the other students.

3. I'm assuming the only remediation here is to continue re-doing copies of games. If this is the case, have you found it true that this whole process takes an actual year?

In essence, I feel like I'm spinning my wheels when it comes to games.

Hello fellow 7sagers,

I'm trying to decide whether to sit out another cycle. I'm blind reviewing in the 170s, but I can't seem to get my actual score up from the low 160s. I've gone through JY's course twice, the LSAT Trainer, and Manhattan RC. My brain often turns to mush on the harder, convoluted questions under intense timing conditions. I started taking timed PTs around mid October but can't seem to get over this anxiety. I've taken about 10 PTs. Clean copy BR each time. I really need advice on how to get over my timing issues. LG is my strongest section. The timing issues only affect me with RC and LR.

I'm considering postponing until February, but I know applying that late in the cycle would severely hurt my chances at getting accepted to high ranked schools with a scholarship, as most of the seats and scholarship money will be gone by then.

I've been studying 5+ hours everyday (8+ on the weekends) and work full-time. I've been at this since late August, so I fear I'm risking burnout. It would be extremely painful to have to keep pushing through until February, but I know the golden rule is "Don't take the LSAT until you are 100% ready." :(

Things to consider:

- Very scared I won't have new stuff to work with if I sit out another cycle. Only about 30 fresh PTs left.

- Aiming for 165+

Anyone planning on taking the Dec 2016 LSAT? I'm starting to study.

I was hoping to find a search function so I didn't have to start a new discussion, but I couldn't find one. Anyway, I was looking at the different course subscriptions, and there was a line where the description went from "easiest problem sets" to "easy" to "easy and medium" then "easy, medium, and hard." What exactly are "problem sets?"

quick, whats the rule of thumb as to which you should use?

December Test Takers, I give you Fallacy Man. Our hero!

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I see why A, C,D, and E are incorrect, but I cannot figure out how B doesn't resolve the paradox. Here is the video explanation: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-20-section-4-question-26/

Smoking in bed is the main cause of home fires. Fewer people smoke now than did twenty years ago. But, the number of people killed in home fires hasn't declined.

What I am looking for: What if fewer people smoking decreased smoking related home fires, but another cause increased over that time? What if former smokers substitute smoking for playing with all of their extra matches? Also, there is a difference between people who smoke in bed and smokers in general.

Answer A: This is what I chose, but it is pretty subtle why it is wrong. This is suggesting that smoking related home fires aren't actually deadly, so it's actually not a paradox that the number of deaths didn't decline. It never was a big deal to begin with.

Answer B: If you see what A was doing, then this is the answer you are left with after POE, but I am really struggling to see how this doesn't resolve the paradox. JY is certainty correct in saying that this answer choice presents smoking in bed as a very risky thing: you might fall asleep when the fire starts and die. But, doesn't JY's explanation resolve the paradox? If smoking in bed is an inherently riskier activity, then doesn't it make sense that the number of deaths didn't decline?

Answer C: This definitely resolves the paradox. Just because there are fewer smokers doesn't mean that the right type of smoker has stopped smoking. What if none of those that are most susceptible for starting a fire didn't quit?

Answer D: This addresses the thing that I anticipated. What if another cause of fires increased?

Answer E: This definitely resolves the paradox. If there are more people living together, which can increase the cause of death, then sure, the there hasn't been a decrease in deaths.

As I am spending most of my time working on recent PTs for the December test, I have been solving some of old LR questions as well (I would consider PT 1-30 old).

After working on both, I think a conspicuous difference between old and newer ones is that old LR questions are not as tightly worded as new ones. I feel like old ones are cruder while newer ones are more refined in terms of their writing styles.

Assuming there are differences, I don't think they are about different flaws or different assumptions but more about different writing styles. I don't know if this is just me but I definitely spend more time reading/understanding old LR questions' stimuli than those of newer ones.

Do you guys think that there are any differences between old LR questions and newer ones? I would love to hear your opinions about this :D Thank you!

The other day, I came across a question in a practice test that used the phrase "results in," and I really struggled with the question because I wasn't sure how to translate that into "lawgic," as J.Y. calls it, or if it even could be translated. I don't remember what PT is was exactly, although I know it was somewhere between PT 65 and 68, and it dealt with bees. The sentence in question said something along the line of "Excellent pollination requires the presence of bees and results in a better harvest of fruits and vegetables," or something along those lines.

I know the first half translates to EP ---> PB, but is there a way to translate "results in?" Would you say EP ---> BF&V because if you have excellent pollination, then you know you'll have better fruits and vegetables, or would you write it as BF&V ---> EP because if you're garden produced better fruits and vegetables, then you know that you had excellent pollination?