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Hey guys, just wondering if I should start doing preptests AS I'm going through the syllabus to keep track of my improvements? Or if I should finish the syllabus then start the PTs? Curious to see what you guys do.

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I feel like I am hitting a plateau on the LR section, I keep getting 7 or 8 questions wrong every time I do it. I am starting to feel sick while doing the questions and cannot concentrate!!! Anyone with similar problem??? How do I overcome this?

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There's been a lot of concern about weird game types appearing or potentially appearing in this era of LSAT. I think it's a healthy concern, and is perhaps the hallmark of this "era" of tests. Future LSATers will likely look back at the PT's in the 70's and say "Oh yeah, that's when LSAC started bringing back those weird game types."

There have been a good number of weird games. Some of them are potentially very useful (namely if we learn something from them that could apply to other weird games, even if not of exactly the same type).

If we have a decent list of weirdos, then those of us who want to prepare for/mitigate the risk of future weirdness will at least know that we've covered our bases.

What weird games have you come across—and what have you learned from them?

When you post your selection[s], please include the link to JY's video for that LG since those are free and accessible to everyone! Or if you don't know exactly which game it was, describe it, and we will try and help locate it for others.

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Hey friends,

I just wanted to open up a thread where folks can post particular areas of discouragement ... nagging questions, doubts, weariness. Or, areas in which you need specific encouragement.

We're about 2 months from October, and I know for a lot of us, it seems the rubber has just recently met the road in a new way.

Don't worry about sounding whiney. And don't hesitate to ask the question we've all asked ... "Can I really do this?"

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Hi everyone, I am just very cautious. Sometimes I did not have time for POE in PT and I just circled the choice I felt very comfortable with. And then BR this question after PT is done. I almost always end up BRing the whole test even I took 20 PTs( BR score is around 172) already. Is this an issue? Thank you!!

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-57-section-3-question-12/

I got confused by A because if you negate it, the argument falls apart. If you negate A and assume people obey commands even without mechanisms to compel obedience, then you can no longer assume that international law is ineffective just because there is no police force.

wait, is it because international law would guide nation states, not people?

I definitely like E, but thought A was the absolute necessary choice when compared to E, after a negating test.

Thanks in advance for the help!

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Hi guys,

I took the June LSAT and got a much lower score than I expected from my PTs - about 5 points lower than my practice scores, and 7 points lower than my goal, so I'm retaking it.

But I bought the "10 most recent LSATs" already and took all of them, I think up through 70 or 71. So I'm wondering how I'm going to find enough PTs to study for October... I'd prefer not to take old tests cause I hear (and agree) that the games have changes recently with circle and mapping games being thrown in there in the last couple years, which I believe accounts in part for my score. I wasn't really ready for them.

I thought I saw someone say that PT 71-74 (maybe) were on Amazon or something, but I need more PTs for October, and I'd prefer to take recent ones to get an accurate assessment. I'd like to have at least 8-10 good PTs. Anyone have ideas and/or links to find good tests?

Thanks!

Christian

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Hi everyone, I have been reading my books and also doing drills and I am gearing up to start my PTS sometime mid August.

Could some explain what exactly the blind review method is and why it is effective?

Thank you!!

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Since no scratch paper is allowed during the LSAT, has anyone had an issue with not having enough room for notes or suggest some best practices when studying? I use a lot of paper working problems out, but perhaps that gets better with practice? Thanks for a great discussion forum!

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Hey all,

Do you have any suggestions for preventing careless mistakes? For example, after you've completed a few questions, all of a sudden forgetting one of the rules, or one of the inferences. Is this just something you have to hone by practice? Or perfecting set-up and notation habits? Specific practical advice would be wonderful :)

Thanks!

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Hi All,

I apologize if this question has been already been asked before. For those of you who have already written the LSAT or are deep into PTing, I was wondering if you studied using any material other than just 7Sage (other than the LSAT Trainer)?

Basically, did you find that the curriculum of 7Sage was enough on its own (with appropriate drilling and PTing, of course)?

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I'm working my way through the syllabus, and for some of the question types there are a lot of Problem Sets (10, 15, 17, etc). Should I hold off on some of these and use them for practice after PTing, or should I be doing them all now as a way to drill in the material?

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-17-section-2-question-20/

B is the answer, and the only reason I did not choose it is because it required me to make an assumption that 1. Plankton are not fish (which would require some background knowledge of what plankton are), and 2 particles from the from the mud did not contain fish. Can someone explain this question to me from a different perspective please. Answer A is easy to come by if I knew I was allowed to make such assumptions.

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PT57 BR Tonight at 8pm ET

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that if you're joining us tonight, you've already taken PT57. And if you have, you know what this means.

And if you haven't, then you'll soon understand.

NOTE: We are meeting at 8pm ET tonight. Not 8:30. Latecomers welcome! Gotta give the East Coast folks a break.

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  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.

  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So please do not check your answers beforehand :-) Or if you do, just try not to say things like "No, guys, I checked, it's D."

  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).

  • PLEASE ... Ask questions !!!! In so doing you are giving others the opportunity to uncover weaknesses in their own understanding, review fundamentals, and ultimately improve their own score. And you're giving yourself the opportunity to do the same. Wow, such harmonious learning experience.

  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.

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    Hi everyone!

    I was wondering if there was a reference list, etc. with regard to understanding the meanings of the abbreviations that are used in the discussion forums. I understand the basics such as LR (logical reasoning), RC (reading comp), and I am guessing BR means blind review. I know there are a few others I've seen (can't recall at the moment) wherein I had to think about it for awhile to figure out the meaning but nothing came to mind. LOL! Anyway, thanks for the help!

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    http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-18-section-2-question-23/

    I'm having trouble translating the "not until" statement. Until is "negate sufficient" but the "not" cancels the negation from the until rule so then it reads just like an if then. Is it ok for me to go ahead and memorize that when group 3 and 4 indicators are used this way in the beginning of a sentence they cancel each other and it reads like an if then?

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