Hello, all!

I have a question about the negation of a particular comparative statement that I encountered in the third quiz on negation in the curriculum. Here is that statement: "Small animals can move more rapidly than large animals can." That statement is, of course, negated as others are: "It's not the case that small animals can move more rapidly than large animals can." But the implications of this negated statement confuse me. The implications of this statement are explained to be that either (1) small and large animals move with equal rapidity or (2) large animals move more rapidly than small animals. But why must the entire group of small animals either move in one of these two ways? Don't these implications only account for the negation of the quality on which the two groups are being compared, yet neglect the quantity? Isn't the original statement quantified?

I have a feeling that I'm not being clear, so let me explain further.

Because the author is talking about these animals as sets - small animals and large animals - can we infer that he or she is talking about all small animals and all large animals? Can we thus read this statement as, "All small animals can move more rapidly than large animals can"? If we can, would not the negation of this statement be, "Some small animals cannot move more rapidly than large animals"? From this statement, we would know that there is at least one small animal (yet possibly all) that cannot move more rapidly than large animals. And because we would know that at least one small animal animal (yet possibly all) cannot move more rapidly than large animals, we would also know that there is at least one small animal (yet possibly all) that moves either equally rapidly or less rapidly than larger animals can. Isn't this all that we need to negate the original statement - merely one small animal that moves equally rapidly or less rapidly as large animals? This would deny the truth of "small animals move more rapidly than large animals," wouldn't it? Wouldn't this account for both the quality on which these groups are being compared and the quantity?

Of course, my entire paragraph above relies on an assumption about which I'm unsure that I can make: I took for granted the we can read the original statement as, "All small animals can move more rapidly than large animals." Perhaps we cannot read that statement as such. If so, why? And if that's the case, are we simply to negate the statement in terms of the quality on which the two groups are being compared, as the answer reflects above? (I.e., the negation of this statement would simply mean that small animals, as a group, can either move equally rapidly or less rapidly than large animals, as a group.)

I hope this is clear. If not, I apologize. I'm confused myself.

Any help on how I am to go about negating this statement would be much appreciated. Thank you all for your time!

(I'll be leaving for work soon, so I'll respond to any posts either later this evening or tomorrow morning!)

Hey guys, third time taker here. I have seen basically every LSAT PT at least once (most of them at least twice). I hear that there are some previously undisclosed LSATs that I could get my hands on but I am pretty clueless on how to get them. Any advice?

So, I have the LSAT beginners package. I have been studying since for 2 1/2 months now. I am at the invalid arguments section. I was initially planning on taking practice test on my own once I finished all the sections on here (to be extremely familiar with everything). However, I have been told by friends that they took 2-3 practice test a week. Is that the smart thing to do? I am taking my LSAT in September. Should I start putting more focus on the actual prep tests vs the lesson plans? Any advice is greatly appreciated!!

Hey all -

Just some background info - I started my studying with 7 Sage on May 16th and I plan on writing September 24 meaning I am about halfway through my studying. I scored a diagnostic score of 151 due to an abysmal LG section (-18). I have now completed the curriculum and have taken 7 PT's. My most recent score is a 164 with a BR score of 172. My breakdowns are generally -3 RC, -11 or so in LR and -6 on LG. My main issue as of right now is timing. I find I am a tad slow on every section besides reading. By a tad slow I mean 3-4 minutes. After every test I thoroughly review every question I missed, typing out explanations for every wrong answer etc. Right now I am not skipping questions so I am going to start skipping Parallel reasoning questions and see if that speeds up my timing but besides that do you all have any tips to increase my speed on LR and LG. I think I have potential for a 170+ but this time thing is a little concerning to me. Any tips from you all are much appreciated!

Hey guys, I have seen PTs 52-77 at least once (twice and thrice in most instances) and I am wondering if it would be better to use those to gear up for the Sept LSAT or if I should rely on older PTs that I haven't seen as much/not at all. Thanks!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-60-section-3-question-11/

I am having a hard time ruling out A. If black water comes into the bay ONLY once every two centuries, how can the conclusion be a comparative statement, saying that it did not reach the same intensity as last years?

I chose D under timed conditions, and because I couldn't really see how A related to the stimulus, but now that I have entertained the above thought, I'm having a hard time crossing off A.

Thanks!

SO I just took Section 1 LR of the Feb 1993 LSAT to help me drill and practice studying. I am going to blind review it this evening and then score it.

First does anyone know where I can watch videos of explanations? I know we are fortunate to have the Game review here... but not LR. The Question stems appeared different & I think I might have misinterpreted some.

Second, I used the proctor app with moderate distractions. I was distracted. SO I am going to continue to use the app with distractions to help me train for that... but please please please give me advice on how you train for that. Every time that guy "yawned" I wanted to hit him. :) I was like dude did you NOT sleep last night we have the LSAT today. ha! So any tips there would be greatly appreciated.

Finally, I know I have read that the tests have changed since 1993, which is why I am using these tests for my lunch time training,just wanted to make sure that was correct. I don't think I did as well as I would have liked in this stage, but I know and felt better than I did on my diagnostic test so that is major improvement.

Thanks guys, I really don't know how I could do this without you :)

Hello guys,

My first study buddy meeting has been really good, but I feel like I've stumbled a bit on explaining the difference between MBT and MSS questions!

I've touched on how MBT relies on formal logic and validity, if the stimulus is true, the answer must be true. Whereas MSS is more general, you are trying to add a conclusion to the information above by drawing one out of the stimulus.

Any input here would be greatly appreciated!

Hello,

I am hoping someone could give me some guidance ..

I have been studying the fundamentals of the LSAT sans tutor/books/etc for the past year while working full time and have had moments of "damn! why can't I just afford a tutor!?" and stopped and reassessed my studying & approach. It was at that time (about a month ago) that I came across 7Sage. The one and only PT i have taken is the 2007 one and scored a 144 (very upsetting)

I don't want to give up and think thats the best I can do since becoming an attorney has been a dream of mine since I was younger.

I am working through the curriculum and really taking the time to understand how to approach each section. Does anyone have any advice on anything else I should be doing to supplement the curriculum? I work 8-5 M-F, I study from about 6-9pm M-Thurs. & of course Saturday & Sunday.

I wanted to take the LSAT so I could apply for the fall 2017 school year, but I also don't want to give myself that deadline and add more anxiety to my progress, so I am open to waiting..

Any advice/guidance is appreciated!

Thanks guys :)

Currently watching lesson but the videos aren't playing. I checked to see if it was my internet connection but that seems to be fine.

Help!

Like I imagine most of us, I never had to study in high school/undergrad. The LSAT is the first time I've had to seriously study. I find that I'm able to do about two, maybe three, hours a day before I just can't focus anymore. What tips can you offer to help me study more?

I recently took a 2 day break from LR.

I did 2 LR sections today and had much better results. 23/25 and 22/26. I think maybe I needed to just let information and some of the studying I've been doing, sink in. I definitely feel like some of the answers are just "coming" to me now, rather than having to think hard on them. Especially for the first 10 questions.

It's interesting. The questions I circle for blind review are rarely incorrect and sometimes during review I'll second guess myself and actually put the wrong answer down.

Regardless, I'm still finding time to be an issue. The first section I took was 5 minutes over. The second section was 10.

5 I can deal with...10...not so much.

And I know exactly where I'm slowing down as well. It's the harder questions, anywhere from 15 onward. That's also the area I get most of my wrong answers. The first 10 questions I usually complete in 10ish minutes.

I'm wondering if there are any suggestions or time management strategies, specifically for LR, that any of you would recommend?

Hey!I wonder if anyone is close to Seattle. Now I need a study buddy to supervise my study progess. I am following the LSAT 4-month schedule and read LSAT trainer. I increase my accuracy but still slow. Any suggestion?

Anyone, if you r close to Seattle or Bellevue, PM me. We can grab a coffee and share some experience.Thx

Can someone help me with this question? I don't know why A is wrong and D is right, they said that you should strengthen the argument that stripes serve as signal for other zebras. Honestly this one kind of pissed me off.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-36-section-1-question-24/

Could someone please explain why C) is incorrect? I understand why B) is correct but after scouring the message boards I can't find anyone who can explain comprehensively why C) is incorrect.

What if 200,000 people read the newspaper, but the survey only accounts for 1,000 of them. Surely then, the conclusion that George Orwell's 1984 influenced a great number of the newspapers readers, would be inaccurate? I mean, isn't "a great number" simply a relative term? If I have 10 of something, 9 would be a great number of them.

I just have a quick question about the December LSAT. I was wondering if I take the December LSAT can I still apply for the Fall 2017 cycle or would it be to late?

Spoilers if you haven't seen the game:)

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-3-section-1-game-3/

Really should have taken a break before attempting this LG. Too many distractions and too late in the day - but it did provide comedic relief for me...

- First of all, do not diagram a parking deck starting with Floor 1 on the top...

- Second - do not misread the last 2 rules as "There are ""ONLY"" New cars on Floor 1, and "ONLY" Used cars on Floor 3

But here is a Challenge -

Q19: If all the production models in the exhibition are used, then which one of the following statements MBT?

Anyone able to make all of the Production models be "used" in the exhibition... I thought they meant that I had to provide a scenario including all the Production models available.

Completely lost that it was only the USED Production models in exhibition....

At least I ended my study time laughing instead of crying:)

Hi everyone! I just upgraded to the Ultimate+ (super excited) from the Starter Pack. I'm planning on taking the September LSAT. Do you have any tips on making the most out of the Ultimate+? Thanks in advance :D

While I am now comfortable with this game after reviewing the video explanation and practicing it a few times, the first time I saw it I had no idea how to diagram it. I thought it was a double layered sequencing/linear game that was unbalanced (underfunded). I thought the fall and variable courses were their own separate variable sets and thus tried to split and stack them on my diagram. How do we know not to diagram it as such and to instead rightly diagram at it as a single layer sequencing game?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-51-section-4-game-2/

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Hi team,

I have been studying with 7sage for a month now. Learning a lot of stuff, but just want to do a double check, what do you keep in your head when reading the passage?

For me, I feel like I have constantly do the following set of things:

-Untangle the passage into context, premise, conclusion (minor/major) by asking the WHY question.

-Writing the sentence into logic terms by constantly looking out for any logical indicators (all, never, only if...) and pause for 2 seconds and write it out (sometimes if the sentence is symbol I still try to do it because in the end the passage is an argument)

And yes, I do this for all the questions. Surly, I speculate when doing actual PT this may be done unconsciously, but for starters, what do you keep in your mind when reading for RC?

@twssmith, @"Accounts Playable" and anybody else care to share?

Much thanks,

Panda

Hey so I already posted a similar discussion to this but it had a lot of other information and I really just need to decide how to study for the September LSAT since I already took it twice and have been studying on and off for a year.

My 7sage paid membership expired and I have almost mastered LG and LR. Should I just take PTs and timed sections leading up to the September LSAT? Or should I get the LSAT trainer and/or get another 7sage account? Main weakness is RC and I keep hearing that the best way to improve is to just keep doing it. I need to start studying again soon because I haven't looked at anything since the June. Thanks!

Hi there,

I have been thinking of sitting for the Law School Admission Test for quite some time. However, finding the appropriate schedule has always been an issue for me.

Due to some unforeseen circumstances that have come about recently, I have been made aware that I will not be attending University this upcoming year. This will leave me with an abundance of free-time (July-December).

Considering I now have this free (full-time) schedule to dedicate towards this standardized test, would this period of time be adequate for someone attempting a score of 165?

Thank-You all for your time.

P.S - I understand that responses here will be purely hypothetical, and any reasonable estimate/answer will largely depend on other encompassing factors (i.e. Diagnostic scores/Time dedication).

Hey,

I know we are all studying probably every minute but if any of you are looking for some new law show to watch, I really recommend checking "The Good Wife" out.

I was just watching one of the episodes, and she was in court room where an "adhesive expert" was called. No joke. His job is about analyzing the things stuck on the glue'y side of the sticky note. And he was basically saying how a note's sticky side that had fallen on the ground had lead on it, and one of the items, the painting also had lead on it, so the note must have come from that painting.

The main lead was on the opposing side. And I was thinking, how would I weaken this thing on LSAT..... What about if any other item in the house also had lead on it? And sure enough, she introduces an additional premise saying the expert concluded too hastily, a lamp on the desk where the unused sticky notes like also had lead on it as well. And its possible the sticky note might have touched the lamp before being placed on another item which might not be the painting. So, its not necessary that the note was on that particular painting!

I don't know why but the fact that I could predict the form the "right answer" might take, and that I was right, made me sooo happy. :D I know I still have a lot to learn, but I have finally started to feel like I am getting to a place where I am beginning to understand.... and its such a good feeling.

Hey y'all! Just had a quick question about using The LSAT Trainer. Do any of you use the study schedules provided by the Trainer or do you just move at your own pace and do the appropriate drills?

I just began the Trainer again and am at lesson 5. I love what I'm reading but just wasn't sure how to go about drilling and whether or not to follow one its proposed study schedules.

Any insight would be helpful! Thanks :)