Hi All!

I am looking for a list that puts together all the grouping games.

Grouping games are a weakness of mine!

A few days back, I read a post here that had a list of some in/out games.

Now I am looking for a similar grouping list.

Can anyone help?

Thanks!

Main Point question, I agonize between B and E. B is wrong because they never said it was not the only factor? But isn't E wrong as well because the conclusion was about unlikely that a prediction will occur where as E said probably will not? Isn't E kind of too definitive?

I watched JY's video on this one (http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-45-section-4-question-06/), but I don't understand his reasoning for eliminating answer choice C. During the exam, I couldn't distinguish between C and E. I know that E is a necessary assumption, but how is C not as well? If the beauty of the river crossing must not be preserved, then doesn't this completely wreck the argument? Why would the extra cost of the cable bridge be justified if the beauty of the crossing must not be preserved?

My 3 recent PTs I have experienced an oddity.....my timing is deplorable.....

For prior PTs I would reach question 21 or 22 in each LR section when time is called.....but for my 3 most recent PTs I only finish up to number 17.

By the 30 minute mark I am only on question 15.... why is this happening? I feel so much slower than before! I have to read, then re-read, then re-read again, the stimulus before going to the answer choices...

How much room is there in the test booklet? Does the test look just like the PTs? No scratch paper just seems like another way to make this exam more painful than it already is.

I emailed him a couple times at studentservices@7sage.com. He never answers.

Most of the time, my deductions and diagramming are the same with 7sage's, but it still took me average 12 mins to finish each section. What are other ways to improve speed?? Have you successfully overcome similar problem and do you mind sharing your experience?

I chose C, but the answer is B.

I can't still find out what the difference between B and C.

Why is C wrong and B an answer?

Can someone explain me?

Thanks!

Ie. you wrote test 61 4 months ago and forgot it or didn't score that well and didn't review it and got a 158 but re-write it now and get a 166?

Hello All!

Quick question for those who know:

How in the world do you Blind Review reading comprehension??

1. I do the memory method, however at this point, i am taking practice tests, and i have no clue on how to Blind Review, or Review in general, the reading comprehension section

2. If anyone can, PLEASE give me some detailed insight.

-After taking your PT and Blind Reviewing the LR section (and of course, doing the fool-proof method on Logic Games that you did not breeze right through), how do you Review/Blind Review the RC passages? How do you better yourself? How can you increase the amount of control you have over the passage?

-After taking your PT and Reviewing/Blind Reviewing all other sections, (and of course, putting the memory method ASIDE, since its physically impossible to do the memory method after you've already taken the PT), how can you increase the level of comprehension you have within the passage? I.E. - some passages i am able to completely master after reading them untimed, and for others i will literally sit there for a good 20-30 minutes still saying "DFJDHVDKJFDNFFDFFD??????"

THANKS ALL!! and for everyone else taking the 10/3 LSAT, GOOD LUCK!

Guys I'm very confused. In today's lsac email it sounds like 2 plus a picture. But on the ticket it says one. I only have one so the sooner I find out the better (if not tomorrow I'll have to get a state id or soemthign cuz it's too late for passport)

I'm feeling pretty depressed and just beaten down right now because I'm not doing any better at the LSAT since I began for the most part. My lowest timed score in June was 144. To my utter disbelief, I took a PT today and got a 147. I've figured out that I'm only missing around 10 questions because of my stupidity; the rest I'm just unable to get to because I run out of time. I've gotten near 170 before multiple times, but those tests were all untimed. I'm scheduled to take the October 3rd test and I just don't know what to do at this point. I'm unable to get to at least 5 questions from each section.

Does anyone have any advice? I've been going through tests, doing BR, recording my score, and watching the explanation videos. I've also been looking through the analytics, seeing which question types I'm missing, and then reviewing the core curriculum for the applicable section. I'm starting to think that I'm just not made for law school. It seems like the test is just so much easier for other people; I actually had a lawyer laugh at me a few weeks ago when I told him I was actually studying for the LSAT (I'm quoting, "No one studies for the LSAT. If you have to study, you shouldn't try to go to law school."). I've been studying for 4 months and wish I had longer (my pre-law advisor actually told me I should just grab a logic games book and flip through it, that no studying was really required).

Since d-day is so soon, any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks guys!

Moving from bracket to bracket (140 to 150 to 160 to 170...)?

Consensus on the board is curriculum+BR+management of your body/mind+don't burnout.

Is there an overall mindset you need to have to make the gains you want?

Obviously not being down and negative about your scores, keeping a resilient face would seem to be something to keep in mind. But has anyone come across something that has helped their scores outside of actually practicing the material?

In terms of necessary and sufficient conditions for the LSAT, I'm wondering what the difference is between "All because..." and "Only because...". For example: "All because the nail fell out, the war was lost" vs. "Only because the nail fell out, the war was lost." Or, the example could be, say, "All because of you, the war was lost" vs. "Only because of you, the war was lost", etc.

My confusion is that "All" introduces a sufficient condition, whereas "Only" introduces a necessary condition. But, the sentences seem to have the same meaning. What's the difference between "All" and "Only" in the examples above? Is the use of the word "All" just simply wrong when applying it to only one person (or thing), and such an example would never be found on a LSAT (even if people say "All because of you..." in everyday, real life)?

Also, I am confused by the word "because" in the above examples. I know "because" introduces a premise (which I think of a premise as being akin to a sufficient condition, or at least as an antecedent), but does "because" introduce necessary or sufficient conditions, as well?

Thanks!

Michael

I understand that this is probably a dumb question but I keep having difficulties with flaw questions that have answers that "confuse necessary and sufficient conditions."

This is what I understand so far:

If I eat an apple, I will be healthy.

So eating an apple is a sufficient condition to being healthy since I can be healthy through other ways as well. It doesn't have to necessarily be by eating an apple.

I just know that if I eat an apple, I will definitely be healthy. To reiterate, being healthy doesn't necessarily have to do anything with eating an apple.

So if I say:

1. if I eat an apple, I will be healthy

2. I am healthy

3. I ate an apple

Is that confusing necessary for sufficient? Which flaw is this?

Can I have an example of both types of confusions (confusing necessary for sufficient / sufficient for necessary)?

Thank you!

I tend to miss these "fill in the blank" miscellaneous questions. I tend to categorize them as MSS or MP questions. Since that isn't really working (easily this question type is my lowest % according to the analytics) does anyone have any ideas about how to tackle these? The curriculum just had some listed questions, but no lesson about them.

For this question, during the timed exam and during BR, I thought all of the choices were equally awful (except for A, which was even more awful), so I pretty much randomly chose between B-E. Can someone justify B and eliminate the other answers? B seems pretty bad to me. It states that Stay in Power--->Victorious party must address the disagreements. However, the passage says they ignore their disagreements and that they come forward after victory. But, the passage (to me) doesn't imply that unaddressed disagreements trigger an overthrow. Sure, the passage starts by stating that the factions differ as much in ideology as the dominant party, but it doesn't create a sufficiency arrow for overthrowing that party (I think). Idk, this question had me spinning my wheels on the exam, and now I am spinning my wheels on it during BR.

I feel BURNT OUT. I literally feel like crying every single time I look at a question and I can't focus to save my life.

BUT, I also suffer from the syndrome of "not being able to stop because stopping means losing precious time before October 3".

So. Someone just tell me to stop.

Kthanks.

Sincerely,

emotionalandtiredanddrainedandseekingvalidationthatitsoktofeelthisway

I’m trying to calm my nerves before my first LSAT which is coming up in less than 10 days. I’m scoring in the low 160s but I really would like to improve and break the 170 mark. Is that possible (or rather what is the possibility) given I only have a week left or should I not take the LSAT now and take it when I am more fully prepared in 4 months (Feb 2016, can't do Dec)?

I've only done 20 PTs and have 10 of the most recent prep tests (after 50) left and most of old ones untouched. I studied slowly but steadily over the summer to get used to the LSAT and started increasing the frequency of PTs taken so that starting September I could do at least 3-4 per week full timed PTs, experimental and writing.

Should I use all the new tests now or save them and take the later LSAT? I also didn't find out about the BR method until now and I feel like I've wasted precious PTs. I also just bought copies of the Powerscore books which I plan to go through pretty much fully in the next 3-6 days. My plan is to do 1-2 solid days of games until I can perfect them (currently get 1-5 wrong), categorize my argument trouble areas and fix them, and figure out something for reading comprehension using the books and practice tests.

I also still have 1 year before I apply to law schools, my GPA is almost a 3.8 and likely will be 3.8 by the time I apply.

Any advice, recommendations, etc. would be very much appreciated!

hey can i get a quick list of some in/out games. having issues need some practice thanks. :)

Hey everyone,

I am hoping someone can help me because I feel as if I am in a slump right now and am having a hard time getting out. When I started this 7Sage program, I was very motivated and charged at it like a bull and was killing it…However, these past two weeks I have been slacking HARD and just can't get my head into the game. I have all the time in the world to study and do pt's however I just can't get myself there. Even right at this moment, I am doing problem sets, and blind reviewing but I am not operating at my normal potential and it's making me frustrated because I am missing things that I wouldn't normally miss.

Did I burn myself out? Does anyone else feel totally unmotivated? How do you get yourself out?

I am planning on taking the Dec 5th LSAT but I'm not sure if thats a good idea considering how I'm feeling lately.

Under the influence of today's computer-oriented culture, publishing for children has taken on a flashy new look that emphasizes illustrations and graphic design; the resulting lack of substance leads to books that are short-lived items covering mainly trendy subjects. The changes also include more humorous content, simplification of difficult material, and a narrower focus on specific topics.

Q. Which one of the following is most strongly supported by the information above?

A. The inclusion of humorous material and a narrower focus detract from the substance of a children's book.

B. The substance of a children's book is important to its longevity.

C. Children of the conputer generation cannot concentrate on long, unbroken sections of prose.

D. Children judge books primarily on the basis of graphic design.

E. The lack of substance of a children's book is unlikely to be important to its popularity.

I chose E and the right answer is B.

I cannot figure out why B is the right answer..

For LG vid pages, is there a way I can have my default player be the 7Sage one? Youtube's max playback speed isn't fast enough and doesn't have useful question markers.

Hey everyone,

If you're anything like I was, when you're studying and you get frustrated, you might ask yourself... What's the point of this stupid test anyways?

Well.. being in my second week of 1L right now, I feel compelled to come back to these forums and tell you. Please keep in mind as you read this, these are just my opinions, I am sure there are others.

1. Reading Comprehension:

There are two key reasons why RC is so important. First, I am only in my second week and I have probably read about 500+ pages of mandatory readings, and much more supplementary readings to try and get a better understanding of some concepts. So, the point is if you want any chance of keeping up with the work load, you must be able to read AND retain at least somewhat quickly. Second, most of my readings have been cases that involve reading what some judge (or more) had to say about a case. This includes:

What they see the issue as (legal issue)

What they think should be the resolution

Why and how they came to this resolution

You are essentially reading a judges thoughts splattered on a page. It is up to you to sift through it to find the important stuff. Sometimes judges write clear and its not so difficult to follow. However, they are experts in a complex industry, which means their vocabulary can be intense at times (especially when you don't have a good grasp on this new language or what the lingo is)

2. Logical Reasoning

I want to move to LR now because it overlaps with what I was going to say with the rest of RC. Like I was saying you are reading these dense complex passages. Why do you need LR?... because the entire point of you reading these cases and judgments is to figure out what the main point is (ratio decidendi). But, it doesn't stop there... you also need the premises the judge made to get to that conclusion! And the rest is just filler or side notes or some random babbling that might interesting to read but doesn't really matter to what you need for class.

So now you've read (quickly)... got the main point.. got the judges reasoning... you're all set right? --- NO!

Now you are going to go to class and have a professor ask you a ton of questions. Sometimes they might ask you to just simply state something that has happened or was said. But, other times they might ask your opinion. Well how can you give that if you aren't ARMED with LSAT skills? By identifying what flaws may have been made or why an argument was strong or weak, you are now capable of telling the prof what your opinion is.

See.. it all kind of starts to make sense? Sort of?...

3. Logic Games.

Unfortunately I have nothing for these. I guess they are just some section they included to add an element of "fun" to the test. I don't know.

Key point is, YES there is absolutely some overarching goal of the LSAT! I don't know if I believe that a higher score necessarily means better student (obviously higher score might correlate to more work which might mean stronger student). But, I can definitely say that there is a reason the LSAT is important beyond being a measure of determining who should be accepted at a school. It prepares you for the workload (at least in some sense) that you will be faced with if you are accepted! You will need to put in the hours, just like the LSAT... from Day 1! You will need to read long boring passages and see what a judge is thinking, why they are thinking, and what the heck the point is of even reading what they think!

Look at the LSAT as preliminary training for what you about to embark on! Because as a "fresh" 1L student, I can say it definitely doesn't get easier! It's all part of the plan! So train hard, worry less, and good luck all!

I understand that everybody moves at their own pace and that everyone's goals are different but does anyone know how long the course is supposed to take you to get through? I've started 2 weeks ago and I'm almost 55% through the material as it is but I'm very concerned with not retaining the material by rushing through to try to get to take tests. I've studied a little bit with other methods before I found 7sage but I'm just curious how long it took other people to go through the material before they start really taking prep tests. I took 2 tests before I found 7sage, the highest was 162, and I plan on taking at least 30 before December because I understand that taking tests and BR are really where you see your big gains. Any help in this area would be greatly appreciated and good luck to everyone studying!

I'm attending a law school forum this Saturday and I'm not sure what kind of questions I should be specifically asking? I would like to know about the costs and financial aid but when it comes down to specific programs they may offer I'm not even sure which programs I should be looking for. Thoughts are greatly appreciated!