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This question is taken from the Group 1 Group 2 Translation exercise but I'm finding recurring instances of odd translations into conditional lawgic. For example, how come for sentences like “Bravery is essential to overcome adversity” (Translated in the video explanation as: If Overcome Adversity then Brave) “is essential” points back to “bravery” as the necessary condition but for sentences like “Beauty is always in the eyes of the beholder” (Translated as: If Beauty then In Eyes of the Beholder) “is always” doesn’t point back to “beauty” as the necessary condition?

I would think that translating any statement that says "X is necessary for Y" would be "If Y then X" because it plainly says that so I don't understand why there's an exception for "is always."

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First, are we allowed to discuss which section was experimental on a nondisclosed test? And second, if so, anyone who took it want to help figure out which sections were experimental? I had two LG sections.

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Hello all,

Just had a couple questions regarding the new photo requirements for the June 2016 examination and beyond. Do you guys know if we can simply upload a camera phone picture as the ID for our online profile? Does the photo need to be in color when we print our admission ticket? Finally, have you guys had experience obtaining a digital copy of a passport style photo from drugstores?

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June 2016 Advice

First off, my apologizes for posting twice in such a close time period, but wanted to get some advice on my personal situation.

I began studying for the June 2016 date in mid-January using the Powerscore LR & LG Bibles, which I finished a couple of weeks ago. I have skimmed through the RC Bible, but I know it's pretty much regarded as worthless, and I already have a pretty good section performance so I'm not planning on reading it fully or doing any of the exercises. My diagnostic in January was a 155, and in the first couple weeks of studying I regrettably took a couple more PTs scoring around the same; after realizing that this was a bad strategy I decided to wait until I had completed the core material before taking another PT. After finishing the LG Bible and while reading the LR Bible I took some practice LG sections to drill, which is when I discovered 7sage and found the LG video explanations. The 7sage LG video explanations helped me translate the raw skills I had learned into a mechanical game strategy. In retrospect I would have obviously rather just used the 7sage curriculum, but at this point I think it would do more harm than good. I recently took my first PT since finishing the LG & LR Bibles and scored a 166, followed by another the next day at 163, so I feel confident that I've made at least a 6-7 point improvement so far. With a little over 11 weeks till the June date and another 40 PTs to do, I feel pretty confident that my target score of 168 is within reach. I think the next few points of improvement will come from honing in my LG approach, and maintaining higher reading focus on LR & LG, which alone should yield a couple more raw points based on my review of my most recent PTs. Overall, I feel confident when approaching the test; obviously there are still many improvements to be made, but I don't have that "lost" or "hopeless" feeling with the fast approaching test date.

At this point, given my results and goal, should I just continue on my self-study method, take the remaining PTs and use BR between PTs? Or should I postpone my test date and do the 7sage curriculum?

Based on a couple of other advice threads I've read, a lot of people push delaying a test date, but a lot of those threads have been people on their 3rd attempt, or people that feel woefully unprepared for an approaching test date. So I'm curious to see if the consensus will change.

Thanks in advance!

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flaws

Hi, I'm confused with these statements. They refer to some kind of flaws, but can't seem to pinpoint exactly what they are.

Does anyone know what they're called?

1. The argument assumes without warrant that a condition under which a phenomenon is said to occur is the only condition under which that phenomenon occurs (in other words, the argument assumes that one way is the only way)

2. It sets up a dichotomy between alternatives that are not known to be exclusive. (in other words, the argument assumes a limited number of possibilities when there could be more)

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Discounting Score for Familiarity

First post here, and was wondering about what the typical theory is behind discounting a PT score based on having previously seen a LR question in prep materials, or having done a LG before. I'm not necessarily referring to the kind of top-of-mind awareness to where you could recall the answer to a question after the stimulus, but just having a vague recelalection of the theme. My initial thought on this was that I see dozens of different LGs a week and more than a hundred LRs a week, and therefore the effect is likely negligible. Curious to here others thoughts on this and how it could skew performance analysis.

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I was admitted to Harvard today. Just wanted to thank 7Sage for the wonderful work they're doing here! I come from a working class family and would not have been able to afford LSAT prep, much less one as great as this, without 7Sage.

To my fellow 7Sagers: Hard work pays off. Keep studying!

Cheers!

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Hey guys,

As many of you know, I love 7sage. I loved 7sage when I first found the app on the AppStore in the Fall of 2014. I loved the community most of all. A lot of the folks here have become good friends of mine. And in January of this year, I quit my job to come work for 7sage full time. This is the first time in my life I've been a part of something I truly believe in—I have to pinch myself every now and again—if I could go back in time and tell my March 2015 self that I'd be writing this post now, I would have been overjoyed: so many dreams come true!

Back in July of 2014, I started studying for the LSAT. My diagnostic was a 152. After two underwhelming LSAT administrations (Oct and Dec 2015), I had my final shot in February. I officially increased 18 points over my diagnostic!

A lot of people ask these kinds of questions:

1) Is it possible?

2) How do I do it?

3) Are you really sure it's possible/I can do it?

I had those same kinds of questions when I first started frequenting the forums about a year ago. I'm here to tell you that the answer is an unequivocal YES.

So , this is my personal thank you to JY, Alan, and Dillon. Thank you, you guys. You made this possible for me.

Now let's go change the world!

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I work a full-time job and life has a habit of getting in the way of my law school dreams. I've been doing this program regularly since last October give or take and have had a series of setbacks. Right now I still have about 25% of the curriculum left to cover before the June LSAT. I was blowing though the curriculum pretty quickly until I hit the games section.

A one hour problem set lesson takes me 2-3 hours, usually. I just legitimately suck at games and see very little improvement with them, that is about as honest as I can be. I study about 3-4 hours a night, 4-5 on the weekends. BR'ing a game set is a huge commitment for me. It is depressing to watch what minimal progression a full night of studying does, but to know I have so much more to progress through honestly makes me rage quit my study sessions.

So, I need some advice. For reasons I don't feel like disclosing, I have to be in law school by fall of 2017.. I want to take the June LSAT and games are the only thing I have left. Should I just start doing prep tests and reviewing the rest of the curriculum in my off time? What other courses of actions would some veterans or others who have been in my shoes recommend?

Also one last question. For those of you that may have completed the program like I have been having to do (kind of spread out over a longer period) what was your strategy for condensing and reviewing the material you were rusty on? I know it all builds on each other but I know I have definitely forgotten some stuff. I appreciate any suggestions you have, thank you.

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Proctors: The proctors were the school staff and were reasonable. The main supervisor did announcements regarding test instructions from the podium in the lecture hall over the mic so everybody could hear it. The test was done in a very large lecture Hall and all the test takers were in that single big hall.

Facilities: The restrooms were right outside the lecture hall. It got crowded during the break and there was a small line in front of the restrooms, but not something that was too bad.

What kind of room: The Hall was very large with seating for about 300-500 people, but test takers were seated so that one seat between consecutive test takers was left empty. This was almost necessary as else the test takers would have been seated too close. There were around 100-150 test takers in the hall.

How many in the room: ~100-150

Desks: The desks were long continuous lecture hall style of seating. The chairs were individual and height-adjustable.

Left-handed accommodation: Not left handed so I can't tell, but the desk chair style didn't appear to pose an issue for left-handedness.

Noise levels: The nature of large lecture Hall meant that there could be people sneezing, coughing, sniffling at times. I happened to get the wrong seat where two test takers right next to me were sick and were sneezing for various sections of the test. This did distract me in the middle of a very tough section as it got louder. Other than test takers noises, there wasn't any other noise.

Parking: Right next to the lecture Hall room. The parking is marked with a notice that it requires parking permit, but they said one could park there. It would have been better if they put up a notice next to parking notice that the LSAT test takers could park there during the duration of the test.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: About an hour.

Irregularities or mishaps: None that I noticed.

Other comments: The only main issue was noise from other sick test takers due to the nature of the large Lecture Hall

Would you take the test here again? likely yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Dec 2015

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  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
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    Here’s the schedule this week:

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  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. Use your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    I might be a fool

    I know the fool-proof method for logic games is vaunted around here. But I might be the exceptional fool. See, I've done every game from PTs 1-57, most of them several times, and I still cannot consistently get below -4 on new games sections. Sometimes I even get the old games wrong, too. I've been banging my head against this wall since about October, and I just can't learn the damn things! Should I keep drilling and hope for a breakthrough? I thought I had one a few weeks back but then I slid back down to -4 or -5. Maybe I should just put the -0 goal out of my mind and accept that I might have a plateau.

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    Does law school look at average lsat scores if I took more than one test? I knew that ABA changed the rules to only evaluating highest scores, and my tutor didn't say anything about average scores, so even though I didn't do well in this Feb test, I still didn't cancel my grades since it's my first time. But now I heard my friends all cancelled their grades and said they'll look at average. OMG! and I googled it but people's views differ. Can anyone give me a definite answer? I'm super worried.... Thanks!!

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    So, I have a question for everyone about what will benefit me more. I was recently accepted into the Fulbright Scholarship program and will get funding to work abroad for a year. The program is extremely competitive to be admitted into, and I'm thrilled at the chance of traveling and working for a full year before going to law school -- especially because I have career interests in international/transnational law.

    However, I have no money of my own and my parents will not be paying for law school. I will not be making money during my year abroad, and I will be coming back just a month or so before law school starts and won't have much time to get a job or save any money at all. My undergraduate loans during my year abroad will have to be deferred.

    Obviously finances are a major concern for me, and graduating a top law school with minimal debt but with solid job prospects is my ideal situation. But, turning down the Fulbright scholarship because of financial reasons is a hard pill to swallow, especially when considering all the months of work, time, sifting through painful feedback, and interviews I went through in order to get it. I would like to have a better idea of what others are doing, or what other people know in terms of financing law school so I can be pushed in the right direction or set up a game plan for myself, because at this point my joy at being selected for Fulbright is being met with my anxiety about paying for law school.

    Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated.

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    Reading Comp Passages

    I am struggling very bad with time issues regarding RC.

    When it takes me around 12/15 minutes per passage, I get all of them correct or miss only one.

    However, when I try to speed up my pace down to 10 minutes per passage, I do terrible.

    My game plan was to get down to 10 minutes, then 8 minutes, so eventually I can get through all of the passages for June.

    SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!!

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    http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-34-section-2-question-18/

    18. Editorialist: The positions advanced by radical environmentalists often contain hypotheses that are false and proposals that are economically infeasible. But there is a positive role to be played even by these extremists, for the social and political inertia that attends environmental issues is so stubborn that even small areas of progress can be made only if the populace fears environmental disaster, however untenable the reasons for those fears may be.

    Which one of the following most accurately expresses the main conclusion of the editorialist’s argument?

    (A) The little progress that has been made in improving the environment is mainly due to the fear created by radical environmentalists.

    (B) Radical environmentalists, by promoting their views, stimulate progress on environmental issues.

    (C) Social and political inertia is most effectively overcome by an extremely fearful populace, regardless of whether its fears are well-founded.

    (D) Radical environmentalists often put forth untenable positions in order to produce the fear that is required to bring about moderate reforms.

    (E) Radical environmentalists advocate positions without regard for factual support or economic feasibility.

    I am debating between A and B...

    Why can't A be the correct answer choice? Is it because of the word mainly? or is it because answer choice (a) is saying that fear is the sufficient condition for the little progress to be made while the stimulus is saying that fear is the necessary condition for the progress?

    Also, D seemed a little bit tricky but I eliminated that since we don't really know from reading the stimulus alone that environmentalists purposely said false things to create fear.. Is this the right way of thinking?

    The correct answer choice is B, by the way. Thank you in advance!

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    Proctors: Two proctors. Very professional.

    Facilities: Main building of the campus (I believe). Spacious room. Clean bathrooms.

    What kind of room: Classroom/programming room.

    How many in the room: Probably around 30 - 40.

    Desks: Huge. They were long tables and everyone was spaced pretty far apart because there weren't many students. Lots of space to really lay all your stuff out.

    Left-handed accommodation: N/A

    Noise levels: Very low.

    Parking: Huge parking lot right next to the building.

    Time elapsed from arrival to test: An hour maybe.

    Irregularities or mishaps: N/A

    Other comments: Great place to take the exam, if not only for the large desk space lol.

    Would you take the test here again? Yes.

    Date[s] of Exam[s]: December 2015

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