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    Hello! I have a very basic question. This is a bit long, but I appreciate anyone who would provide some thoughts on this.

    Q: If an argument commits the necessary, but not sufficient flaw, does it also commit the sufficient, but not necessary flaw?

    This question came about after I read two examples in the Trainer:

    Example 1: "Everyone who boards the plane has to show his or her ticket to the attendant. Since Tom has shown his ticket, he will be allowed to board the plane."

    B -> S

    S

    ------

    B

    The trainer understood this to be a necessary, but not sufficient flaw (S is necessary, but not sufficient for B). But couldn't you also say that B is sufficient, but not necessary for S?

    Example 2: "Every time you drink, you end up feeling sick the next day. You say you are sick today. You must have gone drinking yesterday."

    D -> S

    S

    ---

    D

    The training understood this to be a sufficient, but not necessary flaw (D is sufficient, but not necessary for S). But similarly, couldn't you say that S is necessary, but not sufficient for D?

    When I first read this, I was very confused by the fact that two identical argument structures have two "different flaws," which is why I wonder if the two flaws are the same.

    I then read this for a bit and now think that the two flaws are different. The two arguments seem to have different emphasis. What makes the first example a "necessary, but not sufficient" is the keywords "he will be allowed to board," which is different from "he must board." I think, if you were to make this change, the first example would be more intuitively a sufficient, but not necessary flaw.

    "Everyone who boards the plane has to show his or her ticket to the attendant. Since Tom has shown his ticket, he must have boarded the plane."

    What do you think? Since this is so foundational, I appreciate any comments about this. Thanks!

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    Hey guys,

    I was just looking for some specific PTs, mainly the newer ones, that are available for download and discovered that Cambridge is still licensed to sell PDFs of every PT. They also have some awesome Bundles including one for all Logic Games from PTs 1-70 for $90 (instead of $295 for purchasing them separately). If you don't need all of those but want to do JY's method for the games using PTs 1-35/38 they also have a bundle for that, which is only $42.

    Just wanted to share this since I was driving myself crazy using the copy machine every time I wanted to make extra copies for a game from one of the 10 Actuals books I have, which incidentally don't include PTs 1-6, 8 or 17.

    Hope this helps!

    Happy studies :)

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    Hello 7sages,

    I'm confused about such rules as shown in the title, and I will use some of the examples from the PTs

    (Spoiler Alert)

    1. Exactly twice as many of the film buffs see the Hitchcock film as see the Fellini film

    2. At least many French novels as Russian novels are selected.

    3. At least twice as many roses as orchids must be used.

    I'm quite confused which one is more, hope you can give me some advice, thank you!

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    I've scored several times in the low 170s, with two 173s being my best scores. But I have dipped as low as a 164 during consistent studying (though distraction and stupid mistakes probably best explain such a score at this point).

    This makes me wonder... what are ranges for those scoring in the low- to even the mid-170s?

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    Hi, I have finished my personal statement. It is meant to be of the "overcoming adversity" variety. Is anyone willing to chime in with some feedback? I was told it was too long, but I am struggling with what to cut out. Any critique would be greatly appreciated!!!

    PM if willing and I will send it. Thank you

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    Last comment tuesday, feb 16 2016

    Admissions- Bad form?

    I need to submit to an explanation I got for a minor warning about guests when my buddy visited me freshman year of college AND I'd like to add an LSAT addendum I recently wrote (16 point difference). What do you guys think? It is considered bad form to submit an addendum after you have completed and sent in your application about 2 weeks earlier? This would be for just one application I sent in earlier than the rest...

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    Proctors: Didn't seem to know all that much except for the main proctor who was in-charge of the tests within the whole building (3 rooms I think) other than that there wasn't a problem with them. They were nice and didn't distract us.

    Facilities: Much better than expected (cant judge a school's facility based off its rank) place was super clean, very roomy and had some cool tech (has nothing to do with test but each seat had a mic on the desk to ensure the whole class can hear)

    What kind of room: Stadium seating lecture hall. Very large but the back had a bunch of seats with no desks

    How many in the room: 75-100

    Desks: Large desks broken up into three sections per row (like a movie theater) with people spaced every other chair. All the room you need to get set up and be comfortable. No issues at all

    Left-handed accommodation: desks were large along with spaced seating should have caused no extra accommodations to be needed (I'm righty so...)

    Noise levels: fine, normal coughing/sneezing

    Parking: NYC so you have to deal with parking buildings. I took public transit.

    Note: there is NOWHERE to safely leave a bag, so if you are going here, DO NOT bring anything you are not supposed to have. There were multiple people frantically looking for a place to leave their bags (eventually left them all with a doorman, I assume they didn't have a problem getting them back but no idea)

    Time elapsed from arrival to test: fairly quick, 20-30 minutes from listed start time (maybe less)

    Irregularities or mishaps: again, most of the proctors clearly weren't trained so we had a couple of minutes in between sections (IIRC the proctors walked around to make sure you weren't still writing/in a different section) Threw me off at first but had plenty of time to re-coop, I enjoyed the extra time to clear my head and prep for the following section.

    Other comments: Nice place, would be top choice of mine if retaking and lived closer (getting there was not a problem from LI, LIRR to Penn and a quick subway ride brought me maybe 5 blocks from school) I just registered for the test pretty late. I would definitely recommend it to those nearby or even on LI (if Hofstra is unavailable-NOTE: Touro is open to replace Hofstra for June, so it may be better than travelling to NYC but not sure how the facilities/testing conditions are there)

    Would you take the test here again? Yep, as said above, if Hofstra is not available I would make the trek

    feel free to post or message any questions

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    Proctors: No issues, they knew what they were supposed to do and weren't unprofessional

    Facilities: Law Building - Everything was clean, wasn't over crowded while waiting to go to the rooms and the bathrooms were clean.

    What kind of room: Lecture Room

    How many in the room: From last Feb so dont remember but probably around 60?

    Desks: 3 sections of long desks (think movie theater) with people seated every other chair allowing for plenty of room for your test booklet, answer sheet and pencil army.

    Left-handed accommodation: As stated above it was long desks with spaced seating so (while not left-handed personally) I'd imagine there were no issues

    Noise levels: Standard test taking noise level... some coughing/sneezing but no unexpected disturbances really. I think there may have been a AC issue that made a little noise every once in awhile but not something that would be a consistent issue nor was it super noticeable

    Parking: adequate, I found a spot pretty quickly and close to doors. I could see having a issue if you aren't too early but looked like there was plenty of parking a min or two walk away

    Time elapsed from arrival to test: Got there a little early but compared to listed start time we started maybe 20-30 minutes later

    Irregularities or mishaps: One kid had special accommodations (don't know specifics) but made sure no one had a problem with him being in room (no one did) and sat in the top row alone and didn't cause any issues. Other than that went fine.

    Other comments: Was definitely a great place to test (assuming other rooms had similar experiences) I had no issues, everything went smoothly and we had nothing that may have affected anyone's testing. Had all the room I could want and more to get comfortable with my testing area. I would most definitely recommend Hofstra as a TC to those in the area.

    Would you take the test here again? Yep, I tried but they don't administer June tests so couldn't take it there my second go :/

    Feel free to message/post any questions regarding the facility and such

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    Proctors: 2 or 3 proctors. All were VERY strict with the time/putting pencils down; one proctor actually ran to a student to yank the pencil out of her hand. One person got kicked out for not following the instructions. All instructions (phones, food, IDs, etc.) were followed to a T.

    Facilities: Ballantine Hall. Bathrooms were on the same floor. Elevators are a pain to use (if you go to IU, Ballantine is a notoriously weird internally designed building).

    What kind of room: Small classroom.

    How many in the room: The room could fit 30ish students.

    Desks: Worst part of the testing room. Small college desks. Not enough room to fit both the test booklet and Scranton at the same time.

    Left-handed accommodation: Yes.

    Noise levels: No issue with noise.

    Parking: Campus parking is a pain. Ballantine has a parking lot, but I walked to the testing room from my apartment. One of the campus bus routes takes you to Ballantine, so that is a possibility if you live off campus/don't want to drive.

    Time elapsed from arrival to test: I showed up at 7:30. We started at about 8:30ish/8:45ish. The proctors were very strict about the directions, so we started promptly.

    Irregularities or mishaps: Besides the person getting kicked out (which I didn't even realize until after the exam), nothing.

    Other comments: I took the exam in September 2014 (PT 73), so some of my information might be out of date (such as if the same proctors are there). However, Ballantine Hall hasn't changed in 1000 years, so I doubt it has changed since then.

    Would you take the test here again? If I had a choice to take it elsewhere, I probably would not take it at IU. I really don't like the small desks, so if you can avoid that at your testing center, I'd do that. Nevertheless, if you are an IU student, the closest spot is probably Indianapolis, and although that drive is only about an hour long from Btown, the roads can get pretty bad if the weather is bad in December.

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    Last comment monday, feb 15 2016

    Study Plan

    Hello Everyone,

    Currently I am trying to get together a firm study plan. Originally, I was going to take the February LSAT but unfortunately things did not go as planned. Anyhow, I am going to take the June LSAT but I wanted to know how to effectively study from now until June. I finished the foundation coursework with 7Sage, furthermore I have taken 10 LSAT exams. A lot of the study guide plans I came across have suggested that I spend the next 3 months breaking up the games (Linear/grouping/in-out) with each month as well as breaking up LR question types into each month. Additionally, one should be completing a minimum of 20+ Reading comp passages a month. Do you think this will be an effective plan, or should I be covering each game/LR type every month? Instead of going the divide and tackle route. I really appreciate any advice you guys could give and thank you in advance for your help!

    PS: I plan on joining the June BR group as well

    -Kristen :)

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    No one showed for the early BR last week. If you’re interested in it this week, let me know and I’ll add it to the schedule.

    NOTE: We’re moving Tuesday’s BR group to Wednesday to avoid all of the juicy webinars that 7Sage has scheduled for that day.

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    Proctors: About 5 proctors, all very competent but not uptight and helped to create an overall relaxed atmosphere.

    Facilities: Law School Building or Engineering Building. Vanderbilt is a beautiful university with very clean, modern facilities and plenty of room to hang out during the break with comfy chairs and couches.

    What kind of room: Large lecture hall

    How many in the room: ~50 -60

    Desks: Long continuous lecture hall tables, ergonomic chairs with wheels, good lighting.

    Left-handed accommodation: There was an empty seat between each test taker, plenty of room for lefties without bumping their neighbor.

    Noise levels: Very low to silent, signs in the halls asking people to be quiet, testing in progress.

    Parking: I walked to the test but there is parking available, I believe at a ramp several blocks away.

    Time elapsed from arrival to test: ~ 1 hr

    Irregularities or mishaps: None, proctors are very competent and clearly experienced.

    Other comments: Great testing site. October was in the law school building, we were split into 2 smaller lecture halls by last name, February everyone was together in a bigger but almost identical lecture hall in the Engineering building.

    Would you take the test here again? Yes

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    Last comment monday, feb 15 2016

    Question Bank Includes?

    Hello,

    I have the Ultimate Package, and I am thinking about upgrading to the Ultimate+. For the question bank does it include video explanations for all LR,LG and RC from PT 17 and up?

    I'm just curious what explanations the question bank includes since this would be the main reason I might upgrade my course.

    Thanks!

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    Proctors: The proctors were absolutely terrible. They acted as if they had no clue as to what was going on. After the rules and everything else had been read, including the statement that you have to write. they admitted 2 people without reading the rules again. They did not check for phones, and several went off, mostly emergency weather alerts due to flooding in the area. During the break, one test taker asked if he could be given his test back, since he didn't bubble any of his answer choices due to the proctor not saying when 5 minutes were left. The proctors gave him his test book and answer sheet back for the entire break and let him work on it.

    Facilities:

    Very nice facilities. Very fancy.

    What kind of room:

    Classroom

    How many in the room:

    50

    Desks:

    Long table-like desks. Not individual desks but plenty of room

    Left-handed accommodation:

    Not necessary

    Noise levels:

    Due to the phone emergency alerts, noise level was high, as well as proctors just sitting there laughing and asking each other if they set the timer correctly.

    Parking:

    Parking deck right across the street

    Time elapsed from arrival to test:

    1.5 hrs Super slow and annoying

    Irregularities or mishaps:

    Already mentioned

    Other comments:

    I filed an LSAC complaint. LSAC said the proctors denied any of this happening LOL

    Would you take the test here again?

    HELL NO. AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE

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    Proctors: The proctors were great and very thorough about all of the rules. When you first walk into the building they check for phones and check your bag. Several people were sent away because of this.

    Facilities:

    Clean, easy to find facilities.

    What kind of room:

    Classroom

    How many in the room: 9

    Desks:

    24 Large desks in room, with reclinable seats. 15 people didn't show up, so there were only 9 of us in the room, but if everyone had showed up, it still would not have been crowded at all.

    Left-handed accommodation:

    Yes, left handed desks

    Noise levels:

    No noise at all. Proctors even went around the room telling people to stop tapping their pencils on the desk

    Parking:

    Ample parking approximately 2 min walk to testing room

    Time elapsed from arrival to test:

    30 min

    Irregularities or mishaps:

    none

    Other comments:

    Out of the 2 places I took the LSAT, this is the only one I would recommend

    Would you take the test here again?

    If I had to, yes. Thankfully, I don't have to :)

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    Proctors: There were three proctors. They were all amazing, one of them didn't talk at all, just helped pass and collect supplies, I think while the test was going on he sat in the back of the room, but I was so far in the front I couldn't tell.

    Facilities: The facilities were nice. There were vending machines, and several different bathrooms.

    What kind of room: A lecture hall with amphitheater style seating

    How many in the room: there were approximately 30 test takers there, however there was seating enough for at least 100

    Desks: Large table style desks, with such limited amounts of people we were each given the equivalent of three student spaces, so there was more than enough room for all of my supplies without having to feel confined.

    Left-handed accommodation:

    Noise levels: Unfortunately I was getting over a bad cold so I was the one coughing every few minutes but other than that there were no noise distractions

    Parking: Parking was approximately 25 yards form entrance of building, and right inside the entrance was the set up for the test. It couldn't have been easier to get to.

    Time elapsed from arrival to test: It took about an hour to get everything situated and for the test to begin

    Irregularities or mishaps: none

    Other comments:

    Would you take the test here again? absolutely

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    Last comment monday, feb 15 2016

    Problem with the site

    Anyone else having trouble accessing their lessons/study schedule today? I can get to the study schedule page, but when I try to click on a lesson, I receive a "404 error - Page not found" for all of them. Maybe there's some site maintenance going on that I didn't hear about? Just want to make sure it's not just me

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    Proctors:

    Overall the proctors seemed rattled. While they were not being disruptive (chatting/using phones), they were constantly questioning each other about proper procedure. There was a lot of confusion sending test takers to rooms and when to allow individuals to use the restroom. For example, one proctor made students sit in their assigned seats and explicitly said that we could use the bathroom once all testers were seated. Then another proctor said that nobody could leave the test room until the break. Certainly not ideal to have proctors contradict each other on procedural elements of the test.

    Facilities:

    Northeastern is an extremely well-maintained school. Bathrooms are neat, and the test center in Shillman Hall has restrooms on each floor. There is also plenty of space for students to clear their heads and be alone during the break (an essential thing for me).

    What kind of room:

    As I mentioned, my test was administered in Shillman Hall. For those who may not be familiar with Northeastern, Shillman classroom are lecture halls with "stadium seating". Chairs are comfortable, the room is well lit, and analog clocks are front and center.

    How many in the room:

    Approximately 60-80 students. In my opinion, it's less than ideal to have so many people in a room taking the test. As a student at Northeastern, I understand why they would put us in Shillman (easy to find, large rooms) but I think it's beneficial for test takers to be around fewer people during the exam. Despite this, I wouldn't have characterized the room as especially loud.

    Desks:

    Classrooms at this test center don't have "desks" per say. Rather than try to explain, just follow the link below and it'll be clear what you're working with. You'll have plenty of room for the test booklet and answer sheet to be side by side.

    **This is not a picture of Northeastern, but this is how the room is set up**

    http://www.husseyseating.com/swing-away-seating-photos/california-baptist-university/#.VsDp6HQrK2w

    Left-handed accommodation:

    Left-handed people should not have any difficulties if LSAC continues to use Shillman hall for the Northeastern test center.

    Noise levels:

    Northeastern University is an urban campus, however I don't recall being disrupted by noise. The location of the test center is in the middle of campus, away from main streets like Huntington Ave. With that said, you shouldn't be surprised to hear a faint siren or two, as is common in cities.

    Parking:

    Northeastern has plenty of parking. The Columbus Ave lot is probably your best bet, very close to the test center. You will have to pay to park at Northeastern. You could also pay for a meter and get street parking, but for the sake of reliability, I would just park in a garage.

    You may want to do your own parking research as I don't have a car in the city and everything above comes from my knowledge as a student at Northeastern.

    Time elapsed from arrival to test:

    90-120 minutes. This is a rough estimate, the proctors were not very organized.

    Irregularities or mishaps:

    The contradictory directions at the start of the test were a serious problem for me.

    The proctor checking tickets at the door to my test room instructed many of us to sit in our assigned seats, and explicitly stated that we could use the restroom before the test began, but it was important that everyone sat down first. This was obviously incorrect. I was extremely agitated when I realized she told us the completely wrong information. Make sure you use the bathroom BEFORE you go into the test room. Trust me, it's tough to focus when you've got a full bladder and section 1 hasn't even started. With that said, it's important to be able to power through distractions on test day, your LSAT skills should trump any administrative error.

    Other comments:

    Would you take the test here again?

    Yes. Aside from some specific proctor issues, there's no reason to avoid this test center. Test takers have plenty of space to work with, chairs are comfortable, and you have plenty of space to clear your head during the break.

    Proctor issues happen and I don't think they're reflective of the test center. Just know the administrative procedure of the test and you'll be fine.

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    Proctors: The proctors at the test center were really quiet throughout the test (which I highly appreciated). They gave us a 5 minute warning and enforced all the rules they were told to follow for test day.

    Facilities: The building was pretty easy to get around. Right outside the building where the test was at, there was a sign that let you know the LSAT was taking place there. The bathrooms were right across the room where the test was being held. The slight downside was that when we finally got our 15 minute break, there were only 2 stalls in the women's bathroom and so it took a bit for all the girls to get to use the bathroom haha.

    What kind of room: The test was in a big, open room. The room felt comfortable in terms of temperature. The lighting was bright as it should be.

    How many in the room: I believe 20 people registered to take the test but only 15 showed up. The room could have easily fit 50 people so I was actually really happy that not that many people were there to take the test. Made my experience a whole lot better!

    Desks: Desks were long, spacious desks that could fit multiple people. There were about two people placed at each long desk and there was about 3 open seats between me and the other student taking the test. I had a lot of room to spread out my exam materials.

    Left-handed accommodation: Since the desks were just long tables, I assume that left-handed people would have no problem with taking the test on that kind of a desk. I am right-handed so I wasn't really paying attention to whether or not it affected any left-handed people.

    Noise levels: The room was pretty quiet. I never heard any outside noises. A few people in the room must have had a cold that day because I heard a lot of sniffling as well as people coughing. For the most part, it never really bothered me.

    Parking: Parking lot was really close to the hall. It took about a minute to walk to the building. It was also free parking which was an added bonus.

    Time elapsed from arrival to test: I got there really early so thankfully I was the first in line. Since there were only 15 people who showed up for the test, checking us all in did not take long. The test started for us at about 9:10 a.m. after instructions.

    Irregularities or mishaps: None!

    Other comments: All in all, it was a really good test center. Muhlenburg College is only 15 minutes from my house so the drive was pretty quick. Due to my experiences there I would highly recommend that anyone who lives within this area take the test there!

    Would you take the test here again? YES!!!!! Except, I am really upset that Muhlenburg is not an available test center location for the June 2016 administration (which I am of course signed up to take). The only time they administer tests at their location are for the December, February, and September/October administrations. This makes me so sad. :( So if anyone knows anything about the Penn State - Lehigh Valley test center, please let me know and post it on here!

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    Last comment sunday, feb 14 2016

    Note Taking

    This may seem like a silly question, but how do you all prefer to take notes? Do you go old school with pen and paper or type up notes? Is one way more efficient than the other?

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