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I’ve heard so many times that the LSAT is a test of pattern recognition. Some people define pattern recognition as anticipating or pre-phrasing answers. There are only so many possible wrong answers for each of the question types. Studying for the LSAT is similar to learning how to play chess. After a while, you can anticipate what moves your opponent will likely make.

What does pattern recognition look like for you?

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This has happened to me at least twice now. The first time thought I had just messed up but the second time it happened was quite sure I entered into the right box. It happened in Firefox 30.0.

I don't want to spam the comments or I'd just double check real quick myself. Happy to provide any other info.

Here is what I did:

1) Post a reply to an existing comment on a LSAT Explanation.

Like this one here: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-18-section-1-game-1/#comment-18875

2) After you post that REPLY edit it within the 5 minutes (not sure if this is part of the bug, but I did this in both instances).

3) In the box at the very top above all the other comments, the one where you'd normally post a comment that is NOT a REPLY to any other comment, post a comment in there.

Expectation:

I'd expect posting in the box at the very TOP above all other comments would post a top level comment.

Actual Result/Possible Bug:

It posts it as REPLY to the comment you replied to in step 1. Not as a general reply to the explanation.

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I noticed that wording of these two MSS stems are slightly different.

1. “The statements above, if true, most strongly support which one of the following?”

2. “Which of the following, if true, most strongly supports the statement above?”

I think that the first MSS is a subset of Must Be True. The stimulus is a given.

The second MSS is a strengthening question. The stimulus is suspect.

Can someone clarify this for me? Thanks!

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-19-section-4-question-10/

I am confused as to why A is the answer choice and not B.

According to Kaplan, they say if A is correct then it'll be a rare candidate who takes a chance on the authors strategy, as the media may only air the opposition and disregard the later support. They further that by stating that media is a huge part of national campaigning. But wouldn't that be an outside assumption we would make. And aren't we only suppose to take what is given within the stimulus to support our answers? Because that is why I disregarded A as an answer, thinking who cares what the media covers because it doesn't limit the SPEECH, the speech is still given and still heard from those attending and such. Where as if you choose B if many people do not find politicians in the first place then that would make practically any strategy they choose ineffective, no one trust them... Can someone help me where my thinking has gone wrong here?

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-38-section-4-question-14/

I have questions about (B) and (D)

First of all, an answer choice like (B), "ignore the possibility of benefits from lowering speed limits "other than" environmental and safety benefits.

I can see sometimes it's a right answer because a flaw is an author doesn't consider other factors except for the factors mentioned in a stimulus. But sometimes it's a wrong answer because it's out of scope just like Q.14.

So I can't really find out what kind of stimulus should be if an answer choice like (B) is a right answer.

Whenever I encounter an answer choice like (B), I'm always stuck.

Lastly, about (D), how is it still a right answer? Shouldn't it say both saving lives and protecting the environment just like the author says?

I mean it only says about "protecting the environment" and doesn't say about "saving lives". So that's why I entirely don't understand why D is an answer.

Can anyone explain me?

Thanks!

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I figured out a way to cover learning all the Logic Games types, by using only 5 PrepTests (56, 57, 58, 60 and 61). This pretty much covers all the game types, except for the super rare ones. I choose these 5 PTs in particular because these are considered newer and more reflective of the current LSATs. Yet, I can avoid burning any of the newest PTs (62-71). And the last reason is that I can purchase all these LSATs in a single book. This would be the “10 New Actual, Official LSAT PrepTest” 52-61.

Sequencing

PrepTest 60, Game 2

PrepTest 61, Game 2

Basic Linear

PrepTest 56, Game 1

PrepTest 57, Game 1

PrepTest 57, Game 2

PrepTest 58, Game 1

PrepTest 60, Game 3

PrepTest 61, Game 4

Grouping: In-Out

PrepTest 58, Game 2

PrepTest 58, Game 4

Grouping: Splitting

PrepTest 61, Game 1

Grouping: Matching

PrepTest 56, Game 2

PrepTest 57, Game 4

Linear and Grouping: Matching

PrepTest 56, Game 4

PrepTest 58, Game 3

PrepTest 60, Game 1

PrepTest 60, Game 4

Linear / Grouping: In-Out

PrepTest 61, Game 3

Grouping: Splitting / Grouping: In-and-Out

PrepTest 56, Game 3

Grouping: In-and-Out / Grouping: Matching

PrepTest 57, Game 3

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I was working on PT33 LR Section 3 Q.8. The stimulus starts with "Most people invest in the stock market without doing any research of their own." Turning it into Lawgic. At first I did "People research/ -most-> invest" But my instinct says "Invest -most-> research/" is also right. Because when I ask "what do I know about these investors?" The answer I get is "Most of them do not do research."

However, the conditional Lawgic rule states "without=sufficient negation."

I am sooo confused.

Can anyone help me?

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I finished my first quiz of the course on MC. I got 8/10 and did it in 12.29min. I missed the 2 due picking the wrong conclusion (no indicators). This is easy if you can find the conclusion in the stimulus, all you have to do is find it paraphrased as an answer. I got the rest right so not to think I can't identify a conclusion with no indicators. But, you can tell it's not my strongest pursuit I guess.

How do you suggest I take the next step? I only had one quiz set so there's no more practice left through 7sage. Should I move on to learn about MSS... it's my next lesson. Or should I practice more MC with old PT's? If I practice more, how much more before I move on to my next lesson? FYI taking the Sept LSAT.

Thanks!

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Is anyone in the area studying for the September test and looking for a study partner? I took the June test but I think I am going to retake it in September and I'd like somebody that I can take tests, study, and keep motivated with. :) I live nearish Tyson's Corner for reference.

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Hey, if anybody in NY (Brooklyn) wants a free copy of Mike Kim's LSAT trainer, the Logic Games Bible from powerscore and (I don't know why you would but...) marked and scored books of PTs 52-61, 29-31 and 61-71 you're welcome to come any of it. Just come pick it up anytime before the 17th of this month. PM me and we can figure it out.

EDIT - ALL GONE.

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Hi, I currently am prepping with fully 5-section timed in 161, and I am registering for the June LSAT in Asia. I am for a 167. In my timed section when I did them separately a in early May, I got high 160s low 170s consistently. I then stopped for 2 weeks for my finals and resumed again since late May after my exams. From then I started with full timed tests of late 50s-early 60s tests and got 161 in all those tests. I tried to drill into each sections but my scores do not seem to rise at all. LG used to be my best section where I got -0,-2 consistently in the 40s tests, but now I can't seem to get it off the -5,-4 level due to either I misread a rule or I make silly mistakes with inferences. RC is my worse section where I got -4 at my best if I do individual sections. LR is also erratic as I often got -2.-3 in May, and also in J07 test which I did as a full test rather than diagnosis, but now my best is usually -5. Do you have any suggestions on how to improve points in my case? Would it be wise for me to postpone the test till Sep if I don't see major improvement in the next week? (My test will be late June, ie 2 weeks from now)

Thank you in advance for your help. Hope you all did brilliantly for the June test!

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I just started to study for the Sept LSAT. I did terrible on the logic games section in the diagnostic test. I have since then purchased materials, 7sage's course and did some online research.

Now more than ever am I confused with the games as I thought there were a couple of types and I just had to learn them. But, in each type their are sub-types and it looks like powerscore, 7sage, and the online resources I have found have different names for them?

Game 1 - Grouping: Splitting (Division)

Game 1 - Grouping: Matching

Game 2 - Grouping: In & Out (Selection)

Game 2 - Grouping: Matching + In & Out

Game 2 - Grouping: In & Out

Grouping: Defined fixed, unbalanced, underfunded

Grouping: Defined moving,balanced numerical distribution, identify the possibilities

Grouping: Defined fixed, unbalanced, overloaded, identify the templates

Grouping: Undefined

Grouping: Linear Combination, numerical distribution

Grouping: Partially defined, numerical distribution.

and there's TONS more. At this point I feel like I am wayyy in over my head. I believe that I am making it more complicated then this all is. But, I need someone to tell me how this all works then. I want to later on do drills and all these websites and my books call it different things so I don't know how to make practice "packets" for a type of game when there's 20 diff. grouping games.

Thanks in advance for any help!!!

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I'm not sure if i'm just crazy and making stuff up in my head or not, but I swear I saw a link to a live video of JY (or maybe some other 7sage person) taking the LR part of the test. Am I just thinking about the live video of the LG? I know about that one, but I thought I saw a link to same thing for LR in the comments for one of the lessons... Any info, anyone?

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