Hey,

I took the test 2 years ago. I'm studying to retake it in December for reasons.

This is for the few people out there who think they BLEW THE TEST UP!!! I really hope you did!

On the day of the test I felt like I aced the test. I was confident going in and not surprised by any thing. Walking out I thought I did better than I ever did before. For the days leading up to getting my score I was getting really excited expecting to see something crazy ( for me ) like a high 160 or a 170+!

Result:

I got a point higher than what I had been scoring on my PT's. I felt really bad about that score. But now I look bad and realize 1) What was I expecting? 2) That score was pretty good. 3) If I wasn't going to be happy with my score I should have pushed it back and studied more until my PT's were higher.

So for those who think they did awful and for those who think they did amazing. The LSAT is really accurate and you probably scored very close to what you've been scoring. So relax and don't get a big head like I did.

I wish you all the best.

Hello All! I'm wondering if it's not recommended to skip through the curriculum? For example- I'm at strengthening Questions now on the Syllabus, but I'm feeling really antsy about the fact that I've done no logic games prep. Would skipping to logic games and coming back to the rest of the curriculum above hurt me in some way? Thank you!

I am having a hard time whether I should follow the schedule. I assume (uh oh) that to be able to strengthen or weaken an answer, you must first be able to see a flaw with the argument. That is why I see it makes more sense to work on the flaw before strengthen/weaken. However, I am sure there is a reason why the syllabus is set up as is but I can't figure out why.

You probably didn't.

But in case you're feeling this way, I want to say a couple of things before you cancel your score.

First of all, congratulations on completing the LSAT. What an exceedingly difficult challenge—but you did it! For what it's worth, I am proud of you for your hard work over the months and your accomplishment today. I wish I could shake your hand because I would do it earnestly until you said "J.Y. stop it."

Please get together with your poor friends whom you've been neglecting for the past x months and drink your collective faces off. On you of course. I mean that literally as in have your friends drink things off your body. And also in the sense that you should pay because you've been such a bad bad friend.

If that's not appealing, please get together with your friends and spend a lovely and sober evening together not nourishing budding alcoholism. But you should still pay for whatever it is.

Okay, on to business.

Your score will likely be a couple points lower. I'm sorry, but that is how it goes. It's completely normal to feel stressed out on test day and that's likely what causes the "test day penalty" that everyone talks about. Objectively, that just happens.

Subjectively, though, your stress might distort your impression of that fact. It might distort your impression of your performance by overemphasizing the negative. You fixate on things like how rushed you felt, how much you guessed, how you never guessed on PTs, that one LR question that you just couldn't figure out, etc. That's what contributes to that dreadful "I f***ed up" feeling. But don't let that get to you. All of that has already been taken into account under what we call the "test day penalty".

If nothing objectively terrible happened, like you had a seizure or heart attack during the test, your city suffered a major earthquake, the guy sitting next to you was so frustrated with the 3rd game that he stood up, ninja stared the proctor in the leg with his sharpened #2 pencil and yelled "F******** EVERYTHING!" and stormed out of the room, then mostly likely, you did just fine.

It has to be fine because the LSAT is a very consistent and reliable test. And that's a good thing. Why would PrepTest whatever be "special"? It can be "special" only in so far as any of the other PrepTests were "special" and you've already preptested those other "special" PTs.

So there it is. If you're thinking about canceling your score, I hope you'll read this a few times and think about it carefully.

Hi Everyone,

I'm sorry if this has already been discussed elsewhere! I looked but couldn't see anything.

My question is, are you restricting your timing when practicing RC questions, or are you just timing yourself to see when you're finished? I have been restricting my time between reading the passage (and summarizing as I go), then restricting the time again to writing a summary for each paragraph and the overall summary, and restricting my time to answering the questions.

J.Y. said to not restrict your time too much when first practicing... maybe 12 minutes for harder passages. But it's hard to set up a timer if you don't know how hard the passage is before you read it. That's why I'm wondering if people have been just marking down how long it took them, but not actually setting a timer.

Thank you for your input! I like reading how other people are practicing.

Hey everyone,

So, I decided that I would write a little (turned out to be long) guide on my LSAT experience. I am doing this for two reasons. First, I am not some genius nor do I even think I did that well, so I think the average person will be able to take at least something away from my experience. Second, 7sage and it's community has been there for me throughout my studies and I believe that giving back and never forgetting where you came from is an important rule to live by. So, that being said, here is what I learned from my LSAT and things that may help you for when you take it.

1) There were two things I certainly didn't want, RC upfront and experimental RC. That is because RC is my worst section, I hate it. Well guess what, that is EXACTLY what I got. I always added LG/LR as a section 5 part PT's and I will always do my added section first. Thus, I don't think I EVER did RC as my first section.

Lesson #1: If you are thinking that there is something you DON'T want, it's best to prepare for it.

2) My experience for LG can be found in this post:

http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/1427/i-just-had-my-worst-pt-which-is-the-actual-lsat-t_t

Lesson #2: Mastery for LG goes beyond getting a perfect score. Once you begin to improve in LG to a point where you can get perfect, it's time to move on and begin working on getting perfect WHILE moving faster. Easier games MUST be done faster in order to have adequate time for the harder/time sucking games.

3) This lesson goes mostly to LR but is applicable to RC as well. I was pretty decent at LR going in, I would average anywhere between -4/-6, with a few cases of -7/-8 on harder LR sections. I definitely wish I would have done more TIMED sections of LR. Being able to finish in 35 minutes was always a stretch for me, as well as I always had difficulty skipping questions. It wasn't until the end of studies where I started making a conscious effort to skip questions. So for LR I gained 3 lessons.

Lesson #3: If you really want to feel good about yourself and get a decent score. You need to get comfortable finishing LR in ~33 minutes (more on this later).

I found that while I was writing the test for LR, I didn't have a clue what was going on. My mind was racing so I was focusing on controlling that, I was keeping track of time, making a conscious effort not to get bogged down, focusing on just keep moving, convincing myself not to worry about that last question I just did. Point is, you have a lot on your mind. So, the lesson from this is to get to a point in LR where your like Nike and "just do it". I say this because if the process in LR is not to the point where it's automatic you are likely going to want to blow your brains out from anxiety. I am not saying this to scare you, nor am I saying this to sound like some guru. Words can't describe the feeling, I am just telling you from my takeaway I actually have NO IDEA how well it went (could've bombed it for all I know). It was a weird feeling and all I know is that if my process was similar to what it was while I was practicing then I should be okay.

Lesson #4: Get the point in LR where you "just do it", like the whole section is something your capable of doing in your sleep. You have a lot more on your mind to manage so it becomes fogged up, so you need to place yourself in autopilot.

One thing I noticed on practice test is I didn't want to take risks. I cared so much about my scores and how well I was doing, that I overlooked the amazing experience that can be gained from taking risks. Practice failure it's only a PT. What do I mean by this? I mean see which questions you should skip and develop a strategy on where the best area is to fail. By this I mean which question types are best for you to skip and around what question #. For me, I remember during a couple PT's I straight up skipped some questions and when I went back for BR I was like "damn, I wish I wouldn't have skipped that one, I could've easily gotten it". But there were some cases where I skipped and when I BR'd I was like THANK GOD I didn't waste my time on that one.

Lesson #5: Just keep moving, don't hesitate, don't contemplate. Do the questions, eliminate the wrong answers, choose the right. Be strategic and PRACTICE figuring out which questions are best to skip.

So that's it for me. The rest of my learning experience is no different from everything you've already heard. Do PT's, add a section, do a couple at the time of the test. USE THE PROCTOR app. Anyways, good luck to everyone, I hope that at least one person can take at least something away from this.

Hello, I live in Seattle, Washington and am looking for someone to study with!

Taking the December LSAT with the intention of crushing it. Working on weekends but free from Monday-Thursday.

Let me know!

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I took the September LSAT, I wish I watched this video before I took the LSAT. It is pretty perfect in describing the experience.

Hi,

I used to be on this forum a lot, and thought I'd check in and see how everyone is doing. I hope everyone did well on the recent LSAT!

Hi,

Reading Comp is my weakest link. I have a lot of room for improvement and I was wondering if you guys could share your strategies (of course successful ones). I try to usually follow the VIEWSTAMP method (views, structure, author's view, and main point), but that seems to get me 65-70%.

I did push ups before my exam

I started with a 141 diagnostic, and with the help of 7sage, I have gone up to a 163 as my highest so far, after 4 months of studying. I am thankful for the improvement, but I have a ways to go because my target is 165-167 for Canadian schools. My marks went from being all over the 150s, to stabilizing at around low 160s just last week. Weakest section would have to be LR as I can get up to 10 wrong on an individual LR section (flaw being my weakest point). LG and RC are better for me.

The past 2 weeks have been PT-ing every other day, and blind reviewing on off days + just going over questions I did wrong using JY's video explanations. That's about it. I feel like my study plan needs major tweaking because I feel like I'm rushing through too many PTs without REALLY making improvements on weak areas (although doing many PTs has helped greatly with timing). Should I go back to lessons more, and review wrong questions more than once?. I read in other threads that some people would cut out LR questions they got wrong and to review them often. How do people go about reviewing their mistakes, and how often should I do it? Any studying tips/plans to make big improvements in LR? Thank you in advance :)

My stack of books and stuff is several feet high (I'm sure you guys know how that is). It's gotta go somewhere.

...so I want to have an awesome bonfire and burn it all. Not in a hateful way. Just in a nice, if I never see you again that will be fine way.

Speculators... come one come all. What do we think, hope, pray that the curve (170) will be?

For historical purposes... and because I find myself with an abundance of time now that I am done with the beast... here are the last few curves.

PT 68 -11

PT 69 -11

PT 70 -11

PT 71 -13

PT 72 -12

I felt very strong on everything but games ( my trouble spot from the start ) but I feel they were perfectly normal. Nothing crazy as in recent past exams, I just suck at games. That said, I thought the other sections were quite normal too, maybe even a little softer, so I'm going to go with -10 as my guess. That said, I would very much relived if it turns out to be a -12 or -13...who wouldn't?

For perspective, the averages for my 5 most recent, 10 most recent, and 35 most recent PTs, were all within 1 point of each other. My individual scores were all over the board... but my averages for those groups were pretty uniform and if my guess on the curve is right, I'll do about 2 points better than my "average" thanks to strength in my non-LG sections.

Anyone else care to share?

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just a quick question for you guys. i really appreciate any feedback

i just took the sept lsat, but I am thinking about taking the dec. test as well. I was wondering if i have to cancel my sept score in order to take the dec test. I am nor nervous about, nor will I be disappointed in, my score as I am proud of the preparation that I did for the past few months. that being said, I am trying to be as realistic as possible and believe that test day jitters got the best of me; I do not think that I am going to hit my PT/target score. I literally felt like I could take another test the same day and hit that mark no problem lol.

I would certainly like to see how I did and want to make sure that if I cancel, I wont lose that chance. Also, any opinion you have on taking multiple tests in terms of how that is perceived by admissions offices would be greatly appreciated as well!

thanks in advance for all of the help!

So I know that one of the two logic games sections I did is the experimental section. But here's the rub... I rocked one of the sections and the other one was pretty hard. I counted up the question totals for each of the sections. With the section I did well, the test had 101 questions. For the one I did poorly on, it was 99. Does this matter? I see conflicting things online. Obviously, I will have to wait until the 22nd to see my score, but I'd like to know what to expect if possible....

So, I've been prepping to take the test in December in London (U.K.). I've heard speculation, rumor, whispers of death by way of anxiety, and general worry over whether the U.S. and outside the U.S. LSAT is different. I'd prefer to be prepping towards the correct LSAT and am hoping someone can confirm with some factual information as to whether the tests are actually different (asides from that the U.K. is undisclosed). Please drop your knowledge below.

I just finished my LSAT about 15 minutes ago. I started studying while studying abroad in Japan over a year ago, and let's just say I'm convinced I've seen one of the biggest score leaps since Michael Jordan. I've been grinding through PTs for months now and the past month my range was 167 to as high as 174. I'm not saying I did that well on the real thing - I might not have - but I am saying I wasn't stuck, petrified, or dead at any point during the test. I went from Kaplan to Powerscore to you, and it only clicked after I took this course.

Seriously, thank you.

Question for those of you out there who have experience on these things, or just good advice. I took the October LSAT today in Munich - it went as well as it possibly could have. However: I did significantly worse on the fifth section - the second set of logic games - than I usually do, or than I did on the first section of games. Not sure if it was the experimental section. If not, I would certainly not cancel the score, but I guessed on... 4 or 5 questions at the end of it. Two or three of those were informed, partial eliminations, two or three certainly blind guesses. I got a 165 on the June LSAT, and my last PT was a 174. I am worried that if this was not the experimental section, it will bring my score back down into the 160s - was really hoping to stay over 170. Any sound advice would be much appreciated. That said, the rest of the test went really well, and if even two or three of those guesses worked out, the impact on the score would not be so dramatic. Any thoughts?

Most important: best of luck to you all taking it today and loads of good wishes and sympathy!

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I live in Bolivia. Could this be the issue? Are people with IP addresses from outside of the U.S. unable to purchase a 7Sage course? Please respond as soon as possible because I would like to start my course!

I have already taken the June LSAT and I scored below my average. I then continued to study and have used most of the material availiable. I felt great during the test, but is lost my composure during the games and ended up guessing on about 7-8 questions. Pretty ridiculous because I felt great about my test up to that point. And games were usually my strong point. I don't know what happened but I just got stuck and lost track of time. What should I do going forward? I just don't see if I was to try and get ready for a future lsat how I would go about it seeing how I've already used all of the 60-70 PTS and a majority of 40-50s over the last 8 or so months. Just sit back and hope for the best or...? Any help would be appreciated!

Of all the timed PTs I did (ranging from 164-171), the actual LSAT ended up being the worst one!! My brain was just completely paralyzed during BOTH of the LG sections!

I hope none of you messed up like I did. Good luck to you all!

Ok, so...here is the thing. There were four classrooms of testakers at my school. Three of the four had full size tables to work on. One had tiny arm desks. Guess which one I was in. In addition to that a left handed student got to leave my testing room to move to a room with a desk because no left handed desks were available. I don't think it seriously affected my grade, but by the end of each section I was tense, much tenser than I have been at tables while conducting my PTs.

I really hate to complain, but what do y'all think? Should I report this to the LSAC?