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Friday, Jun 13, 2025

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Stuck at 171

Hi everyone! I took the LSAT in February and got a 171. My goal was a 174, which is above the medians at the schools I want to apply to, but I was still happy. I was going to take it again in April but my scores went down so I ghosted the test. I haven't studied since. In my practice tests, my average was 172, but I realized that each test I got 7-8 questions wrong, and sometimes I was lucky and that was a 175 or I was unlucky and it was below 170. Does that mean I never really improved? How do I get to a place of consistently scoring less than 7-8 questions wrong per test? Or have I reached my limit? How did people break out of a score they were stuck at? Especially when there is no pattern in the questions I am getting wrong. Thanks! Hope everyone is doing well!

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Is it recommended to do the: 1) Introduction to Logic (8.2h), and 2) Advanced Logic (2.1h) sections of the Syllabus BEFORE jumping into the Intro to Logic Games & Sequencing and the rest of the LG topics?

I signed up for 7sage's LSAT starter with the intent of studying Logic Games (LG). I'm primarily using the LSAT Trainer's program and have found it tremendously helpful for the RC and LR sections. I want to ensure that I remain efficient and effective in how I train, all while simultaneously seeking ways to be multiplicative in the different LSAT topics I study. (I hope I am making sense)

**(Disclaimer: I started studying for the LSAT on June 6th, 2018 with the LSAT Trainer and completed the first 18 Lessons. I had some life challenges that took me away from studying. I resumed LSAT preparation with the LSAT Trainer on October 6th, 2018 but decided to start from Lesson 1. I'm about a quarter of the way through the entire book.

I've taken off the next five weeks from work to train up for the Nov LSAT to give myself the most time.

I look forward to the perspectives on this forum.

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Hi!

I'm in Anchorage and looking for motivated people to study/discuss LSAT stuff. I'm taking the November 2018 test.

Please let me know if you're interested! If you're in Fairbanks or Southeast or somewhere else, let's make it a Skype thing so we can include people from all over the state :)

Thanks,

Kirsten

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Hello All!

I am considering applying for accommodations based on severe panic attacks that I often get while testing (in addition to other situations). I have a few questions regarding the requirements:

Question 1: Do I need an official diagnosis?

My primary doctor has been treating my condition. She understands that I have General Anxiety and panic attacks, but she has never given me an official diagnosis. Instead, she just keeps refilling/monitoring my two prescriptions—one for the general anxiety and one for the acute panic attacks.

Do you think that I could get accommodations without a diagnosis based on a letter from my primary doctor supporting my request? Or, is an official diagnosis necessary?

If it helps, I also have a therapist who has been treating me and she has agreed to write a letter on my behalf.

Question 2: Is a diagnosis from a Psychiatrist better than a diagnosis from a Psychologist?

If I do end up needing an official diagnosis, does it matter whether I have one from a Psychologist VS a Psychiatrist? Do you think that either of them might be seen as more authoritative?

Thank you all in advance for any input!

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Hey guys. I just ordered the powerscore 2020 triology books off of amazon. This includes the Logic games, logical reasoning, & reading comprehension books. I want to take my LSTAT on Oct.28th. Any great (or bad) experiences from these books? Also, any advice ?

Thanks !!

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Hi Everyone! I came across a some most drill in a LSAT text book which ended up having some trouble with. I thought I would post the question here and get some feedback.

Drill:

Most of the dishes at Oldies Diner are unhealthy and most are offered on special during luncthime. The dishes on special come with the customers choice of free fries or a free soda. All of the dishes offered on special are written up on the chalkboard.

From this information I was able to come up with teis inference:

Oldies most Special---> Chalkboard

The question states "True or False, most of the dishes on the chalkboard are on special".

The answer is true but I am unable to understand why. Thanks in advance! #help

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Hey all, I remember someone asking a few weeks back about NYC test centers. I just checked LSAC and CUNY Law is now has open seats. I’m guessing some folks may have cancelled for November.

I’ve tested at CUNY before and it’s a great test center. Registration went smoothly, you have plenty of table space, and the restrooms are near the testing room.

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I’ve found my RC scores often depend on how quickly I’m able to complete “easy” passages. Is there a general time you high RC scorers aim for when it comes to the easiest passages? I feel like I should be able to do them in around 5 minutes but typically it takes around 6:30.

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PT30 Game 2

The six messages on an answering machine were each left by one of Fleure, Greta, Hildy, Liam, Pasquale, or Theodore...

Anyone know of similar games? This one cost me a perfect LG section... which was infuriating because it's so easy once you get it. Wanting to try a similar game fresh.

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Hi,

I chose E, but the answer was A.

Here's supposedly why the answer is A: given that the question is asking for what would "most support the author's claim [on lines 24-27] about the relationship between muralism and the Mexican Revolution", people are treating this question as if the "claim about the relationship" is the statement on 26-27: that the muralists reflected important innovations in the art world (thus leading to the correct answer = answer choice A.

Here's why I chose E: I thought that a relationship had to be a connection between the Mexican Revolution and muralism, so I was focusing on the phrase that muralism was the result of changes that the Mexican Revolution represented (line 24-26). This led me to choose E, since this looked like the only answer choice that could possibly support a claim regarding the relationship between Muralism and Mexican Revolution.

In other words, I didn't agree with A's reasoning because the claim on 26-27 only talks about muralism and doesn't connect it with Mexican Revolution.

Can anybody explain how answer choice A was correct? How were we supposed to know that this claim regarding this relationship was that described on lines 26-27 rather than that described on 24-26?

Any #help would be appreciated!

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-39-section-3-passage-1-questions/

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Hey everyone, I just registered for the LSAC forum in LA this Saturday and was wondering if anyone has advice. I wasn't planning to go, but now I'm retaking the LSAT in November so I'll be applying later than expected. I have no idea what to expect - has anyone been to one? Does talking to the reps from schools actually make a difference? Should I bring copies of my resume? Any tips appreciated, and if you're in LA let me know if you're coming too!

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I'm really confused between A and D too and can't still understand why A is wrong.

I chose A. The reason why I thought D was wrong is "widely accepted theory" part. The author said it has "gradually" won accepted (Line 20) rather than widely accepted. I think gradually accepted and widely accepted are totally different.

So how is it possible D is the right answer?

And why is A wrong?

Please someone enlighten me.

Thanks!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-42-section-3-passage-4-questions/

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Correct me if I am wrong in my explanation. I am not sure about my explanations for "B" and "D"

*The kind of question this is:* Weaken

*CTX:* Post office must be replaced with a larger one.

*Premise(s):*

• The present one cannot be replaced.

• Land near the present (center of town) location is more expensive.

• Cost of acquiring a site is a significant part of the total construction cost.

*Conclusion:* Post office can be built more cheaply on the outskirts of town.

*What I am looking for:* A reason, that outweighs the burden of cost, in favour of the office to being built near the present (center of town) location, rather than on the outskirts.

*Answer A:* No. That is just information. Irrelevant. The building code is not a stated obstacle.

*Answer B:* Yes. The office on the outskirts will need a parking lot that is more expensive than not having one.

*Answer C:* No. That’s an issue that the new post office would not need to worry about. It is not mentioned how this would be a problem.

*Answer D:* No. So what if they have to deliver mail to home. The mail will still arrive to the costumers. The post office on the outskirts will still be in business.

*Answer E:* No. That’s not a problem. That’s just the process that will be taken to build the office in the center of town.

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I absolutely love how supportive 7sage community is and I am glad that I chose this program. I was hoping that you guys would be able to check my rough draft of the personal statement and provide some feedback. I know there is always room for improvement and I would love to see if I am actually on the "right track". I would love to check yours as well and we can just switch them back and forth. Let me know if anyone is interested and I will message you! Thank you!

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Hey all,

I'm a 1st-year med student currently studying for the LSAT to potentially apply for an MD/JD program. I'm running through the studying materials here and enjoying them, but I'm also pretty tight on time for LSAT studying (June 2019). Does anyone have any high-yield recommendations that worked for them/ways to get through materials and to practice questions faster?

Thanks!

  • J
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    I am taking the Jan LSAT and scoring well on LG and LR but RC keeps dragging me down. What is the best way to boost my RC score with just over two weeks until test day?

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    Okay guys, this is pretty much my dumb down version of explaining some formal logic based on my knowledge. I believe this is something that needs to be really understood in order to improve in logic games.

    Example 1:

    If A-> Not B

    If B-> Not A -------> That implies that

    *A can be alone

    *B can be alone

    *Both can be absent ( BUT YOU CAN NOT HAVE BOTH A AND B SELECTED!)

    Example 2:

    If Not A -> B

    If Not B ->A ----------> That implies that

    *If A is out, then B is in

    *If B is out, then A is in

    *Or both A and B can be in

    THEY BOTH CAN NEVER BE ABSENT!!

    Example 3:

    If not A ->not B

    If B ->A ------------> That implies that

    * Both CAN be absent

    *Both CAN be present

    *A CAN be by itself

    * B CANNOT! I REPEAT CANNOT be Alone!!!

    Excuse the caps, the emphasis helps me remember haha...Please make any changes if I am wrong. But this is what I came across. When I finally had this written down, it made so much more sense to me.

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    Hi,

    I’m seeking a tutor to help me prepare for the July exam. I’ve been studying on my own with 7Sage for awhile, but with the exam nearing I’m hoping that a tutor will (1) motivate me to commit more, regular time to studying until the big day and (2) help me understand some of the more difficult questions that are keeping me from getting the 170+ score that I’m aiming for consistently.

    I think it’d be most helpful to have someone who scored in the mid-to-high 170s, since I’m occasionally scoring in that range. I’d prefer in person, if possible but would be happy to do this over phone/Skype also.

    Please message me if you think you could help out! Thanks in advance.

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    Hi,

    This is a bit of a long shot, but I was wondering if anyone here studying for the June 2019 LSAT either works/lives near midtown and would be willing to meet up in the mornings to prep? By morning I mean sometime between 7:30am - 8:50am before work M-F. We wouldn't necessarily need to work together, independent prep would be just fine.

    I know a few coffee shops in the Grand Central area.

    Let me know, thanks!

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    LSATurday, Nov 7th at 8PM ET: PT51

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  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Hi guys so I review my logic games with the 7 sage videos on Youtube, but something I found I have difficulty with is determining or knowing when to use sub game boards. I have found that sometimes I have made them and they dnt require which confuses me. I try to think that of there is a variable that is limited to 2 or 3 positions to create sub game boards, but this has backfired on me a couple times.I appreciate any help or advice! Thank you

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