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Hello!

I have a question regarding an embedded conditional. Does the interpretation change on the base of where the comma is located at like the following exmples? Thanks for your help in advance, I appreciate it!

If S, then /B unless F

= S → /B unless F

= S → (B→F)

= S and B → F

If S, then /B, unless F

= /F → (S→/B)

= /F and S → /B

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[S and B -> F] and [/F and S -> /B] are the same!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Find assumption to make legit:

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    Right: One is a frog only if one loves green. Translation: In order to be a frog one must love salsa verde.

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    #help

    PP --> Money

    D --> EqualPP

    D --> PP --> Money

    /money

    /D

    A - I didn't see any conjunctions in the stimulus

    B -

    Bookstore --> money

    LoveBooks

    BooksExpensive

    ---------------

    /money

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    Sci-Fic --> /accuracy

    ----------------

    Hist-Scifi --> Difficult

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    E -

    GoodHealth --> Exercise

    Exercise --> AdequateTime

    -------------------------------------

    GoodHealth --> Exercise --> AdequateTime

    /Adequatetime

    ------------------------------------

    /Goodhealth

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