I consider myself to be a super-prepper. I started in December and since then have prepped at least 20 hours a week, and done probably 40+ preptests and 50+ individual sections. In that time I have noticed no less than three changes in myself:

1) I have started to speak very precisely (no less than in sentence above for example, or extreme precision in some, most, all, etc)

2) I am thinking about the precision in other people's language more, and frequently asking myself things (for example, if so, then what else has to be true?)

3) I feel that I am seeing patterns more, for example if someone tells me their schedule the LG circuits go off in my mind.

4) I reread things a lot more often, if there is even a tiny bit that I do not get

Anybody else have things like this? It is simultaneously annoying and awesome!

I thought this was somewhat similar to certain LGs (process of elimination)

http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/04/15/science/15mathproblem_toned/15mathproblem_toned-articleLarge.jpg

answer and explanation: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/15/science/answer-to-the-singapore-math-problem-cheryl-birthday.html

Hey everyone! I haven't been on the forums as much because I realized I was spending more time on here than I should be (was sometimes getting in the way of my LSAT studying). So I'm here now and I want some opinions. I have not been taking FULL Tradition PTs, I've been taking sections and doing them all timed in different scenarios. For example, I'll take 3 LR sections and 1 RC and then BR those. Another day I may do 2 LG and 1 RC and 2 LR. I'm not sure why but this feels easier. Come the last 3-4 weeks of studying (when graduation is here and I don't need to worry about school/finals) I will take normal PTs (probably 2-4 a week) whatever time allows. A lot of personal stuff with family has been coming up among other things so I can never FULLY sit down for a FULL PT without getting interrupted :/.. With school finals/research papers, work, and etc. I just get too many interruptions >.<.. Do you think a month is enough to build a mental stamina?

I go to USF, looking to create a study group in the area if anyone is interested let me know.

Does anyone know if the change regarding PDF LSAT exams and content will affect the pricing of the courses? I wanted to purchase my class before the 21st but now I will not able to so I will have the extra expense of buying lsat test books in addition to the price of the course. =(

Are people finding that the LSAT is harder in the 40s? I took some in the 50s and some in the 20s/30s and was within a consistent score range. I've taken multiple in the 40s and have seen my score drop by 4/5 points. FREAKING OUT since June is super close. HAALPPP

Hi,

I tried to search the discussions, but I can't seem to find the thread for the hardest LG.

I have just finished the bundle and I want to go through them, but I lost my list of the ones I thought were the hardest!

Right now I have:

Prep Test 19, Question 3

Prep Test 31, Question 2

Prep Test 31, Question 4

Prep Test 34, Question 1

Prep Test 34, Question 4

Does anyone want to add to this list? Thanks!

in the course, jy said blind review score is the room for improvement. the difference between my blind review score and pt score varies about 5-10 points (only got 10 point difference once and i already expected it right after my pt--felt nauseous). Im wondering how people are approaching this.. im not sure how to best make use of my score I guess. do I simply continue pt-ing? especially bc i want to be where i am BR-ing by test day in june.

Dealing with another "LSAT Headache"

Any tips to reduce/lessen/avoid them?

FYI - I space out PTs so they are at least 2 days apart.

I think you all should take a break from your aggravating LSAT studies and focus on this aggravating photo. :) Is the kitty kat going up or down the stairs?! (I personally think its going down the stairs).

http://www.cnet.com/news/professor-explains-whether-cat-is-going-up-or-down-stairs/

I've finally cracked 170 (PT63) for the first time on a fully timed 5 section test. This is an outlier for me by about 3-4 points but of course I want to keep my score moving this direction. Is there anything specific I can do to keep moving the needle this way? I work full time so I can only take 2-3 PTs a week. Is that enough to make progress my the June exam?

If anyone is looking for supplemental practice (in addition to actual LSAT questions) in identifying assumptions and in strengthening or weakening arguments, I suggest looking at the essay prompts for the GMAT:

http://www.mba.com/us/the-gmat-exam/gmat-exam-format-timing/analytical-writing-assessment/analysis-of-an-argument.aspx

The website lists more than 100 prompts that could be used as essay topics on the GMAT. Each prompt presents a weak argument that makes unsupported assumptions. The test-taker is supposed to identify the assumptions and recommend ways to strengthen or weaken the argument.

This is also helpful if you are also applying to business school and need to take the GMAT. :)

Hi everyone,

I'm the type of prepper that tries to keep everything concerning my PTs as consistent as possible. With that, I try to plan my meals accordingly so I'm not battling hunger, spikes in blood sugar, or caffeine withdrawal while I'm testing. I'm not sure if this type of thread has already been posted; if so, I apologize. My meal plan has been working pretty well for me, and I wanted to know what everyone else eats when they PT.

P.S. I'm vegan. So my meals might look a bit weird to some of you (haters gonna hate).

6:30 AM- Breakfast

I have a cereal consisting of 1/4 c. unsweetened wheat shreds, 1/4 c. old fashioned rolled oats, 1/4 c. Uncle Sam's Toasted Wheat Berry and Flax cereal, handful of slivered almonds, handful of golden raisins, 1 teaspoon of chia seeds, 1 sliced banana and 1/2 c. of unsweetened almond milk. I usually keep the dry ingredients individually portioned in a bag so it's super quick to toss them in a bowl, cut up the banana, and throw the almond milk on top. For anyone that has seen anything about the Engine2Diet, the recipe is adapted from Rip's Big Bowl (http://engine2diet.com/recipe/rips-big-bowl/).

I usually drink 1 liter of water in the morning and have a cup of tea with breakfast.

Snack after the first three sections

I like a granola bar, banana, and a little bit of trail mix with 20 oz. of water.

Lunch after LSAT completion-

I usually have rice and Chickpea-Potato Stew or Spinach and Tofu lasagna. I make both of these dishes in bulk and bring individual portions to where ever I'm PTing. I can attach recipes... if anyone cares.

More water.

Dinner-

Large salad, usually consisting of a full head of romaine lettuce and my favorite dressing: Rosemary Balsamic Salad Dressing by Drew's.

More water! Be sure to stay hydrated! I cannot stress how important that is.

Ok, I'm done. What does everyone else eat when they PT?

Hi everyone,

I'm at a bit of a standstill in my prep. Burnout is a bitch. But after a lot of thought I made the decision to purchase the Manhattan Prep LR book. The selling point was looking at the table of contents and seeing that 90% (totally out of the blue figure but it is a lot) of the book is on my problem areas. I need a good review before delving back in but that's beside the point. I also have a copy of The Trainer and the PowerScore Bibles that I use rarely. But I am primarily using my 7Sage course. I'm having success using The Trainer with 7Sage. But has anyone had any success using Manhattan and 7Sage together? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Hi all,

I am struggling with RC. Recently, I bought LSAT Trainer. It is really helping me. I am wondering if I should buy Manhattan RC book as well. I heard both books were written by the same writer. Are these two books pretty much similar? Should I buy Manhattan RC? I really appreciate your time and cooperation.

I know 7Sage is primarily a LSAT prep oriented forum but I thought I'd post some info regarding the recent employment outcomes for the class of 2014.

The data is being compiled in a thread on TLS forum: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=245859

The google spreadsheet that is being updated can be found here for the Top 50 schools or so: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1i1UhZ1rd-2P88CnWESVMXsfTID4waRIx1z_oYGT6p80/htmlview?sle=true#gid=14086468

Hi guys I'm very curious about how karma points are calculated? say posting a comment in the forum/under a class video = ? karmas? initiating a discussion = ? karmas? and how karma points are linked to a user's role in the forum: mentor or member, etc. Any thoughts?

Any tips on how to reduce eye fatigue. I regularly use eye drops, but as I move through my PTs my eyes become really strained.

I know this is par for the course, but any ideas on reducing I fatigue.

As you can see from the title, I'm having a dilemma and I'd really appreciate any thoughts/advice you might have. I'm retaking the LSAT after having a disappointing score in December. I've decided that after nearly a year of studying for the LSAT, I don't want to get a score less than 168. I feel like I'm capable of it and I've seen a slow but steady improvement since I started studying again in February.

However, because test day scores are +/-3 points, I want to be averaging a 170+ before taking the real thing. Right now, I'm still averaging in the upper 160s and haven't been able to consistently score above a 170. It's mid April and I thought I should see how I do on the next two PTs. If I'm scoring 170+ I thought I should go ahead and register for June; otherwise, continue studying until September.

Are my two most recent PTs sufficient for me to base my decision on and/or should I simply wait until September? What do you guys think?

In between the sections, i.e. section 1 and 2, is there a longer break than the 7Sage proctor on the app gives? On the app it seems like its about 20 seconds, but I've read on online forums you have time to take a sip of water and reset watches etc. Any insight?

Hi folks!

We all know the importance of taking and reviewing PTs. For me, I absolutely dread RC review. It sucks! I found myself needing an utterly systematic approach just to make sure I stay on track for this section. Most of you probably already do this and/or there's been a similar post in the past, but if not, I find the following process quite helpful. I'll share it here (and also ask for feedback re: other strategies you've found effective):

1) I blind review as normal, referring back to the passage occasionally -- of course, this method is always great, but I find it inadequate on its own (mostly because I am a smug, overconfident flake and I don't often end up revising anything when I really, really should). Hence:

2) I watch the passage analysis. To get to this video without seeing the answers, I insert the site URL directly.* http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-[PT#]-section-[#]-passage-[#]-passage/

The answers are at the bottom of the video, so don't scroll down! 7Sage, among other things, has been great for my self-discipline :-D

3) Depending on my comfort level with the passage, I listen to J.Y. at up to 1.4X speed. I make notes to keep focused, either for reinforcement or revision, but usually I find he's compelling enough that I don't get as bored as I was when first reading. And usually (okay, fine, all the time) I've found I missed something, big or small (hopefully small), in my own analysis.

4) Armed with this passage review, I tackle the questions again. Second (third?) time through is definitely smoother and much faster. Then, finally, I scroll down and check my answers. If, after all of this, I still got questions wrong, (s)I crawl into a corner and cry(/s) I rehash the question and watch the explanation.

5) Rinse and repeat!

There. That's what I do. Not sure how much of it will be helpful, but I certainly hope it is! If I can trouble you for your own RC review strategies, tips & hints, perhaps we can find the ultimate way to destroy this section in 2 months' (!!!) time.

Happy Easter weekend!

*for peeps enrolled in the course only

could also bookmark the relevant links before PT-taking

Hi,

Just a general post requesting info from those who like RC /score consistently/ or have improved significantly. I have heard of two types of RC folks - who started out from their diagnostic in RC doing REALLY well and have since fallen from grace. Or those who started out doing not so well and are still doing not so well.

I feel like there is a giant, extremely invisible elephant in the room regarding RC that we are all missing. I would just like to hear some success stories or unusual tips. I know there is a ton of advice regarding different guides and such and I have gone through it with little success. But what has worked in real time? It would be comforting to know that there is at least one 7Sager who loves RC and is scoring -0 to -2 consistently. Where are you?

I appreciate it! I just want to solve the RC mystery to eat up some time in between drilling RC for the rest of my days...

Using a kaplan book in conjunction with these videos and can use some help! Can anyone explain Kaplan's answer for the part B? I could have sworn it was an error.

If Megan buys a juicer, then she buys kale or mangos.

A. What do we know if megan buys a juicer?

My answer: she bought mangos, kale, or both.

B. What do we know if megan buys neither mangos nor kale?

My answer: nothing. I thought that no logical deductions could be made from this statement because this is the necessary condition not the sufficient condition.

Kaplans answer: then she can't have bought a juicer

I often have a difficult time determining when I should split gameboards. Are there any indicators you guys rely on? Sometimes JY does it and other times he doesn't, but I can't figure out when it should be done.

If I plan on studying logic games for this whole month then what is a good amount of number of games to play per day? I was thinking of going over 8 games a day. I pretty much understand plain sequencing games but in some games like the in/out games you need to know about biconditionals and the demorgan's law, so I need to go back on that little section on advanced logic before I start playing some of the games. I am getting pretty well with the use of "or" and "not both" rules too. So would 8 games a day be enough or should I go for more? I think 8 is a good number to start with. If anyone wants to let me know there strategies then please share. I am planning on retaking the june lsat, and games is my worst section. But I heard that its the easiest to improve so even if I get 15 right on every other section, and get about 20 right for games then hopefully I can get a 150 or above. The last time I enrolled for 7sage, I didn't really spend much time studying the material so I ended up with a 140 so I really hope I can get 10 points or more on the test. So please suggest what is a good idea to go forth with games. Thanks.