Hey guys, I'm a little tough on time and I'm trying to make it through the whole syllabus. However, watching all the question example videos take a long time! I understand that they are helpful in grasping the concepts, but should I spend more time doing practice questions or watching JY explain them?

Why is C wrong? Wouldn't the uncertainty of who is handling the networks still be an issue if the government funded?

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Hello everyone. I was hoping I could get some thoughts on score fluctuations. For context, I usually score in the low 150s (sad, I know), however, my last PT was a 158 (BR: 164). Is there a chance this was an outlier? Under my analytics page, my score has slowly been increasing every PT but for the most part there are fluctuations in the curve on some PTs. Last week, I scored the 158 but exactly one week before that I had scored a mere 149 while scoring a 148 the week before that one. Could this be a sign of improvement? Or a simple outlier? I guess I won't know until I PT again but was hoping I could get some opinions anyway! Thanks.

Hi, I'm a freshman for lsat. Is there anyone who is able to help with my question about whether the drills on 7sage are free or not. Many thanks in advance.

Just want to hop on here and discuss some methods to get me to a 176 PT.

You've got to have a concrete approach to the questions. Here's how I break it down.

LG:

Do all the curriculum, follow all the advice. Here's my supplemental advice.

Must be true questions:

By nature of the question, the stimulus in the question HAS to lead you to a certain conclusion(s). Think about that when you are applying the additional premise to your game board or working off of the game board for those questions that have no additional premises. Look at every rule, and if you see that this specific question could lend itself to two game boards, quickly and carefully draw those out! You might, and likely will find, that X is in spot 4 in both boards, or that R is in group C in both boards, and there's your answer. You have to push through on these questions.

Could be true questions:

These, in my opinion, are harder, because the answers aren't always so easy to spot. Of course plug in any additional premise to your board and solve as normal, but if you're stuck thinking "I can't tell which direction to go", then start plugging in answers and see what will happen. It seems like a lot, but there are only 5 answers, the first one might work, the third one might work, or sometimes it's the last answer, but you've got to be able to decide that you need to shift out of "make your own inferences" mode into Test the answers mode. Knowing when to do this will precious time.

Can't be true/could be true except:

JY discusses this in many of the explanations, but it warrants my repetition. If a particular answer choice contains a game piece placement that seems to interact with many rules, i.e. it triggers a contrapositive and a not both rule, or it makes the game board have limited space for consecutive pieces, try this answer first. Not blindly jumping into answers and trying to sense the "pressure" from certain answers is a needed skill to get these harder questions right and right fast.

LR and RC:

I will be entirely honest, I did not go through the LR or RC curriculum on 7sage. I'm sure it is amazing curriculum; but I myself used a tutor when I was in the low 160s struggling on mostly LR and RC. But here is a drastic clue. You HAVE to have approaches to each question type, unless your last name is Kent and your girlfriend is Lois Lane. Knowing how to approach a flaw or an NA or a PSA is crucial. It creates structure to your test taking experience, and in theory, should result in the correct answer each time. Don't just like generically think "ok something has to be wrong here" when a flaw question is raised. Rather, realize its a flaw question, and proceed down a list of steps. Personally, I have this approach to flaws. I see that it's a flaw, and I know that I can predict the obvious answer, in which case I find the answer that exactly matches my thoughts and move on, or I summate the argument. By summate, I mean, "ok, its saying that because of this and this, this happens". People don't realize the power of what they're reading. The author is saying that because of x y and z premises, the conclusion is supported. But is it really?

All in all, that's just an example of an approach, but you need to have an approach to question types in LR. For RC, I'll say this, if the question references a certain line or idea, refer back to that line, but read the context above it first. Also, don't just stop at the end of the referenced material. If the mentioned idea/topic continues for the next few sentences. Glance back over that. The hard questions have their answers lying in the context of their references. One might then ask, "well aren't I wasting time??". Here's the answer. If you've read carefully before hand, then no. You'll have gone through the other questions easily because you took your time to understand the passage, and making certain that you comprehend the referenced stimulus in a question should not put you at a disadvantage for that passage as a whole.

But the emphasis is on the caveat. "As long as you've read carefully". Take the time, and I mean take the time. After each paragraph, I basically go through each idea I just read in those chunk of lines. Characters, viewpoints, if they disagree with someone or something, if there are any lists (there are three theories about evolution, x, y and z). Sometimes I spend 3.5 minutes reading, if it's a comparative section with two passages, I've spent 5 minutes. But I had time remaining at the end of the RC section overall.

I can consistently get -3/4 on LR and RC, but I struggle with getting less than 2 wrong. My goal is 170+ so the difference between missing 3 vs missing 2 per section matters. When I blind review, I never seem to realize what I did to get the answer wrong, I only understand after seeing the explanation. Usually its very minor things such as a word that makes the answer less strong, or maybe the right answer was just stronger. Regardless, I know there has to be some way to get better and I am stuck. Any tips?

Hi, I will be taking my very first LSAT in October.

I am trying to adjust my PT schedule to the actual test time, but I cannot find the exact time of the exam.

Does anybody know how the time slots are going to be like on ProctorU? Is it going to be in the morning/afternoon?

Thank you!

Hello everyone. I was hoping to see if I could get some tips for in-out games. I’m currently going through the CC on it and honestly, many of the explanations are just confusing me even further and feel overdone. I’m really struggling the most with the “harder” and “hardest”difficulty level in-out games. I just cant finish these on time at all despite being able to go back during BR to get most of the answers right. My main problem is knowing when to divide the game board into separate worlds/translating some of the rules/knowing when they’re activated or not. Should I just keep drilling these games until I get faster or is there something else that I am missing? If someone could drop some tips on how to improve at this I’d greatly appreciate it!

Hi everyone, I got this question right, but I wanted to make sure I diagrammed it correctly.

Premise: little psych discomfort in admitting flaw in casual conversation --> trivial

(since you experience little psych discomfort when admitting a flaw ONLY IF you consider that flaw to be trivial)

Conclusion: admit flaw in casual conversation --> trivial

Correct answer (missing "bridge"): admit flaw in casual conversation --> little psych discomfort in admitting flaw in casual conversation

I was confused b/c on another forum, they diagrammed the stimulus as a biconditional: trivial (--) little psych discomfort

and I could not see how the wording of the stimulus results in a biconditional.

Thanks in advance!

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Hi everyone,

I'm a non-traditional student and have been studying for about a year. I work full-time at a law firm, have a wife and kids. I have a 1 1/2 year old and a 16 year old. I work days and my wife works nights, when I get home from work I have to watch the baby and on Thursdays and Fridays I have to go to my 16 year old sons football games. So basically everyday I start at 5:30am and don't have a break until 8:30pm at the earliest at which point my mind is just numb. My study times are 5:30am-7:30am but I've just lost the motivation and I've started to go to the gym in the mornings instead.

I pushed really hard for the August LSAT and didn't perform as well as I'd hoped. I got a 152. I know I need to re-take the LSAT and get a better score but I'm totally burned out. When I try to study it just feels like my mind is numb and I just can't seem care or focus. It's been about a month now, and I was scheduled to take the October LSAT, but I haven't been studying and I'm probably just going to have to move it to next year and apply for 2024 at this point.

Has anybody experienced this burnout and does anyone have any tips to get past it? Thanks!

I'm struggling on how to foolproof previous LGs. For example I'm trying to redo a sequencing LG from PT32 section 3 game 3. I'm trying to create drills and I am unable to find that exact LG to add to my drill. Could someone help me out?

Hello,

My name is Ken Kim. We are a group of Koreans and Korean-Americans planning to take the LSAT either this October or in a couple of years. We have members scoring from 160-175 either on the official test or practice tests. Some of us are committed full-time to the test while some of us are working at a company, law firm, etc. We meet on the following date at the Gangnam station Exit 9 Wing Study Cafe.

2:00 pm-5:00 pm, Sunday

We usually meet and do questions from LR and RC. We match our answers and discuss why each one of us have chosen an answer we chose. The fee for joining the study is free other than paying for the studying cafe fee which is 1,900 KRW per person for each hour (5,700 KRW total).

If you are interested, please send me a message to my inbox. I will direct you further. Thanks!

Starting to stress out because my scores are regressing and October LSAT is exactly a month away. Scored 170 once and haven't been able to since, ranging between 164-169, 163 being the worst in the last few months. My original aim was 175 (aiming for T-14 schools) but after studying for more than a year, I'm just so tired. I feel like I have made so much progress in terms of understanding the test but my scores do not reflect this (although I scored 158 last two real exams so not reverting back to 150s is a good sign I guess). I am lowering my goal to 170 which is not a low score by any means but I'm afraid T-14 will not be possible for me with anything lower than this. What can I do to make sure I am able to score this on the real thing?

I think my main problem is not knowing what to do after BR and going through the wrong answers. I BR thoroughly and my BR scores are almost always in the mid-170s (although for PT 90 this past week was 168). I watch the explanations for questions I missed and I was unsure about. However, what do I do next? I have tried writing in the wrong answer journal the way to approach missed questions but I don't think they have helped. I take one test every Saturday and BR thoroughly but maybe I'm not doing the necessary studying and drilling the days between those PTs. The day I take the test should be the least hectic day, correct? At the moment, it feels like the most. How should I be studying or drilling on the days I'm not taking a PT? Should I go back to fundamentals, drill a question type or passage or take full section tests every day? Maybe I'm not taking enough section tests (I take maybe one or two the whole week) because whenever I start the full PT, it feels like oh shit what do I do now so maybe the section tests would be helpful in establishing good habits under timed conditions.

It feels like I am nearing the finish line but haven't achieved remotely what I set out to. Please help, any and all advice appreciated!

Hello everyone. I am considering investing in 7sage tutoring for the November LSAT but would like to hear first if anyone finds it helpful/beneficial before I invest in it.

I’m looking for a study buddy to hold each other accountable! I’m planning to study 30+ hours a week mainly evenings (7-10ish) on weekdays and all day during the weekends. My time zone is pst. My first diagnostic was a 161 and aiming for a 172-175 eventually.

Im looking for someone who can just work in silent with over discord calls, but also maybe chat and be friendly with when we want to take a break. (The presence helps a lot).

Add me on discord if interested! xtt#8183

How do you guys each approach an RC passage while reading? Do you do the memory method every time or write down a low-res summary? I'm averaging -7 and would like to be down to -3! (And ideally take less time doing it) Thank you!

After months and months of study! This was the last section to really come into clarity. Wanted to post this to let anyone out their struggling know that you can overcome that obstacle! Keep pushing through, and try different avenues. It took a combination approach for me to figure this one out. Very thankful to 7sage and my tutor for all the help.

Hi 7Sage peeps, does anyone know if we're allowed to use a monitor while connected to a laptop? Specifically, only the monitor screen will be in use, while the laptop screen will be completely off. ProctorU states:

"Multiple monitors/displays are not supported. If you have more than one monitor, you will need to disconnect all but one."

In my case, where only the monitor screen is on and the laptop screen is off, would that be an acceptable setup according to the requirements?

According to a previous discussion post, the user was told on test day that he could NOT use a laptop/monitor setup, despite verifying with ProctorU that his setup was acceptable prior to the test. That post can be found here:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/29956

Any answers that could shed some definitive light on this question are greatly appreciated!

I've put off asking for a lor for so long, because it completely stresses me out. I know it's in their job description, but I feel like my relationships with profs are too weak. I need to hurry up because I'm taking the October test... Would anyone be willing to share how they asked their professors for a letter of rec and what exactly to include in the email? It's been a couple of months since graduation and I went to a large school, so I'm not sure how to address that as well.

Hey everyone! I took the LSAT for the first time in September, and been very frazzled past couple of days trying to figure out which one of my logic games was scored. One was relatively-ish easy, the other...let's not talk about it. I know PowerScore usually goes into which ones they think were scored and was wondering if anyone knows how long after they usually get those out. Thank you!

STATEMENT 1: "A work of architecture, if it is to be both inviting and **functional...

inviting + functional for public use --> ~obtrusive

contrapositive: obtrusive --> ~inviting or ~functional for public use

STATEMENT 2: "Modern architects, plagued by egoism...

We are thus told that modern architects (because they let their strong personalities take over their work) are producing buildings that are not functional for public use.

Answer choice B states that "modern architects who let their strong personalities take over their work produce buildings that are not unobtrusive." In other words, they produce obtrusive buildings.

The stimulus tells us that modern architects are producing buildings that are not functional for public use. We know from the contrapositive of the first statement that if a building is obtrusive, then it is either not inviting or it is not functional for public use. Does it follow that a building that is not functional for public use is obtrusive? No it does not: that would constitute a mistaken reversal of the conditional statement.

Please #help

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Is the answer choice of a NA question supposed to be a necessary assumption only between premises and conclusion or it can also be a necessary assumption between premises?

Hello everyone! Was hoping to see if those who average -5 or less on any average LR section can drop some tips that we can all learn from! :) What can help someone averaging minus 7-10 bridge that gap to -5 or less?

Hi all I am trying to gauge my chance of getting LSAT extra time accommodations. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Back story:

I was diagnosed with ADHD as a

kid and was on an IEP from 3rd grade

until HS. I then insisted on not being on

an IEP in Hs it because as a teenager I

was very anxious about the stigma it

came with at my school.

I was prescribed medication for ADHD until

sophomore year in college but never

completed an application for

accomadations during my studies. I

struggled in college with not receiving

accommodations but still pushed

through.

I am 27 now and have been

working in legal advocacy and

alternatives to incarceration for young

people with open court cases for the

past 4/5 years.

I am currently struggling with the LSAT

and can never finish a section

completely on time because it takes me sometimes a few minutes to even process the text. I continue to study but sometimes it feels impossible to be successful.

I want to get accommodations for extra

time but I'm afraid I won't because I

went without them for so long. Wish I

could go back now and tell my younger

self to ask for help but we are here now.

Does anyone have experience with this

stuff? Wondering what my chances are

with receiving an extra time

accommodation? Do you need a new

adult diagnosis? I've remained in

therapy for adhd/anxiety since I was 13.

Perhaps a letter from my current

provider and past ones will be enough

without the history of accommodations?

Let me know your thoughts. Thanks so much!