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I am feeling a bit discouraged. I scored a 149 was hoping for 157-162. I have been passively studying for a few months now. That is, I will spend like 2 weeks studying 2 hours a day, then get overwhelmed with life (grad school) and wont touch anything until the week of the test. I have a break from school for the next month, but is it realistic to try for that score on the Jan test? Feeling a little burnt out with school in general. I was hoping to start Law school in the fall and take spring and summer off and just enjoy myself.

Thoughts?

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Wednesday, Dec 1, 2021

168 !!!

Thank you 7sage I'm so happy!! Have to finish application materials and then we're on our way, so scary, but glad to be done with the LSAT. Any suggestions of where to apply with a 168 and 3.9? Could I get into a T14 with those stats? -- Also debating if I should take January, but super late in the cycle, but I really wanted the 170. Can't complain about the 168 though!

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Wednesday, Dec 1, 2021

So Disappointed

After two months of studying, I took my first LSAT. I had been PT'ing around 155-157, but I got a 148 on the November LSAT.

I don't know where I went wrong...I had not scored that low since my first practice test (146). At this point, I don't know where to go or what to do next. Advice?

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(----- Using 7sage Predictor(/p)

I know that GPA addendum's are supposed to short but I believe I have legitimate concerns

  • FIU doesn't have A+ (4.33), ranked as toughest graders in the Country
  • My FIU GPA is 3.6 (4.0 when I was in my Master's program). What I did bad was my 3.23 GPA in community college
  • 2.A. I stayed in my house during periods of DACA expiration, Broward College didn't give me accommodation as an "undocumented illegal" for turning in work late/online (this was in 2014 - 2016)

    Second question: Does DACA help out in diversity to increase chances?

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    Just wanted to share my journey with everyone and express how happy I am that I found 7sage.

    Started 7sage in the beginning of July 2021 and just got my score back from the November LSAT. Somehow even with the random disconnects and stops throughout the test I managed to get a 165. This was huge for me and things are finally looking up again. Thank you 7sage for being the resource I needed!

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    Hi- I'm a non-trad with work experience, parenting-related work break, etc... I am only interested in two local schools for their weekend program (I'm in NJ) because of family duties. So I definitely need the unlimited edit PS help; I'm wondering if I'll get advice regarding other questions I have, like the content of my resume, whether I should delay applying until the next cycle, whether my background would be suitable for a diversity statement... those kinds of things.

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    So...as expected my judgement was correct and instead of increasing 6-7 points, I went in the opposite direction (157 to 151 despite PTing between 158-163 consistently). I have not been studying since this Nov test because I was experiencing a lot of burn out and needed a break. I've already dished out a lot $$$ for this test, and really believed I would score higher and help boost my applications as my GPA is on the lower side. Already spent enough $$$ on applications that were due prior to Dec 1st but how terrible would it look to committees to see a drop in scores? Not sure if I want to nor if I have enough time to prepare for the January LSAT. 😔

    For reference purposes I am a Canadian applicant.

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    Backstory: I got a 152 on my first LSAT in October and was very fortunate to improve my score to a 159 on the November LSAT. I am primarily looking at regional schools as my top choices that have medians around 155 or 156. Although a couple of other schools I am applying (that I am a little less interested in due to location, but would still consider) have medians around 160.

    I have studied pretty consistently (around 25 hours a week also working a full-time job) for around 3-4 months. While I have some confidence that I can get better on LR and probably get close to perfect on LG by the January LSAT, I also know the holidays and traveling will make it difficult to get the same study habits I had before the November LSAT.

    The decision also gets a little harder because if I decide to retake in January, do I wait to submit my applications to those 160ish median schools until February when scores come in? I feel like the two months of waiting might outweigh the benefit of getting a slightly higher score.

    Any advice on whether to retake or just let it go and move on?

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    Thank you 7 Sage and I am blessed for a wonderful community!

    Background: Becoming an attorney was a dream and my goal and I knew this was not an easy one since I struggled with standardized testing. I applied to law schools years ago and was not successful. Despite a long journey with the LSAT, I tried again and found 7 Sage and improved from 135-151. At last! Even though 151 is my fourth score on file, I am grateful to land in the 150s.

    I would like advice on whether or not I should apply ED to a school 157-163 range with a 151 score. Median is 161 and 157 is 25th percentile. Or should I apply regular? Undergrad GPA range is 3.38-3.81

    Context: I'm URM, been out of undergrad for three years, masters degree, involvement on campus/community, pro-bono legal work, undergrad GPA: 3.53 (Major: Political Science), and worked during undergrad and graduate school.

    The LSAT is a process, and I call it MT LSAT. Believe in yourself!! Keep on going and swim to the finish line! :) Cheers!

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    So like many others, I didn't do too hot on November's test. I was interrupted several times during the LG and RC sections and even filed a complaint that LSAC completely ignored. So as disappointing as it is, I at least know that that test wasn't indicative of my best performance, and I know that I can do great in January. However, I wanted to apply in December, which means I'd have to apply with my current score. I've heard that if I apply now and retake in January, my application will have still counted as being sent in December even without a final score. Is this true? I'd really like to be able to do this so I can submit my applications early and then spent the next month grinding on for January's test.

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    Hey,

    I apologize for the length of the post but would really appreciate if someone, anyone can share some advice for how to navigate a large LSAT score drop. My November 2020 score was a 166 and I just received my Nov 2021 score which was a 159, a 7 point decrease. I’ve been preparing for this retake for almost a year and I was PTing in the high 160s, breaking 170-172 one in every few tests. My last three PTs before the exam were all recent exams on which I scored 167-171 (even a 174 with BR). On test day, I felt decent after the exam. I noticed a relatively significant struggle with one RC passage and timing near the end of LG, but that’s not entirely uncommon, and usually places me toward the bottom of my range around a 165-167. I panicked a little at first when starting the test, but recognized the adrenaline rush and revisited those early questions that I felt were fogged by this response. As you can imagine, I am totally crushed about this score drop. I hadn’t scored a 159 on a single PT and was expecting mid to high 160s. It’s not the score itself (I am not looking to put down any scores!!) , but rather the work behind the retake and the look of this down trend. I really must have been off or out of it but I am honestly quite confused. Between work, burnout, and this score blow, I am not ready to jump into another administration, so while I could potentially retake in the spring, I am feeling far from up for it at this time and will need to carry on with the app cycle as it stands. At this time, the majority of my applications are in and I am hoping someone can advise on how to address this 7 point drop to the schools I have already submitted apps to. I’m sure there are reasons for the drop but I was genuinely shocked and confused; I don’t really know what to say. There is at least one school that requires I address this variance. Has anyone ever navigated a similar situation? Do I need to also submit an explanation to the schools that don’t explicitly ask for an explanation? I don’t want to search for false explanations or excuses. Can I give a more concise/cogent version of the above?

    Apologies for the lengthy post. Many many many thanks for any input and I wish you all the scores and schools of your dreams. 🙏

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    Hey peeps! I just got my score back (decent but will definitely be retaking it in Feb) and was trying to see my score breakdown to see which questions I got right and wrong, but LSAT says these files are "unavailable". To my knowledge the Nov 2021 LSAT is disclosed, and when the LSAT is disclosed score reports are available immediately. Does anyone know how I can access the score breakdown?

    Update: Apparently God-Emperor LSAC has decided to discontinue disclosing recent LSAT scores for the time being. They stopped allowing score breakdowns to be released since the pandemic began and the LSAT Flex got popularized. Hopefully they'll add it back eventually. Until then, PT's for me!

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    Hi,

    So I did not score high on the november lsat :( I got a 157.

    I did have a five point increase from the last time I wrote the LSAT (152 in august). I'm unsure where to go from here study wise. Do I stick to my study method (1 PT a week, blind review, 7sage videos to help me with LR/LG I am struggling with)? Should I focus more on CC? I just originally felt like it was time consuming and wanted to start practicing sooner rather than later. Do i change it? Does any one with their successful score have any study method tips?

    If it matters, I didn't get 7sage and use the study method above until september.

    Please help!!!!!

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    Hi all. Looking for some advice about possibly retaking the LSAT for a 4th time in January. My top choice is University of Toronto. My stats are 164 LSAT and 3.96 CGPA. Im above their median GPA and below the LSAT median. (UofT’s 25th percentile LSAT is 165 and median is 168. 75th percentile GPA is 3.93 and median is 3.88).Given this, I’m wondering about my chances and if I should retake the LSAT a 4th time. They need not wait for the later scores to review your file, they review with scores already on file. If your score is competitive, they’ll go ahead and make an admissions decision and if not, they’ll reassess when they have a new score. Any advice on whether these stats are competitive or if it’s worth it to retake? Thank you!!

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    I just saw some people post about how law schools are now accepting GRE scores as well as LSAT at every ABA accredited school. I also saw some articles online about it. Just wanted to reach out and ask if this is true, and if anyone else has any information on it, and what are the implications other than having more options.

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    So I had a really difficult time with this question because of answer choice A. When it says "takes for granted," is that saying the author is assuming the information in this choice to be true? And why isn't the information in A pointing out a flaw? If it were the case that a different advertising campaign would do better than the one LRG went with, wouldn't the marketing consultant's conclusion be invalid?

    Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-73-section-2-question-15/

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    Hi all,

    Im taking my first LSAT in January. Can I send in my applications without the LSAT score? I see that there is an option on the apps to put when you plan to take the LSAT if you haven't already. Is there a benefit/negative to sending in your application without your LSAT score?

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    (E) says that "There are some societies where there exists no concept of blame;" however, this could not possibly weaken Passage B's argument.

    Elsewhere in the passage, one of the authors writes that "rehabilitation" (i.e. non-blame-focused) judicial systems dominated in the mid-twentieth-century, but this resulted in a huge blame-focused backlash in subsequent decades.

    These societies had "no concept of blame," but they ended up seeing the consequences of that later.

    Someone help me out?

    Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-86-section-3-passage-3-questions/

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    Does anyone have a good comprehensive strategy for addressing these question types? They are very similar to strengthen, but for some reason I find them more difficult. For example, often times the answers appear as principles, sometimes a weaker principle would work for one question and a stronger principle is required for another. Does anyone have a good method for eliminating answer choices here and selecting a choice with the correct amount of strength?

    Thanks,

    Oliver

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    Looking to find a group that would like to do virtual studying and also check-ins regarding LSAT progress and what was done for the day/week!

    Potential Structure:

  • Agree upon hours to virtual study/co work M-Saturday
  • During co-working we can work in silence and if we want check in at the beginning and end of each session to go over goals for the session// can also set up review sessions
  • At the beginning and end of each week we update on goals and progress
  • be a great support system!!
  • Here is a groupme: https://groupme.com/join_group/83815277/lZ8Xzxvi

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