Hi all!,

I just started the 7sage course after doing 3 months of book study/lsat demon live courses. I feel like with the demon I never really got the fundamentals and ended up being 6 points off my goal score for the June LSAT and will be taking the August LSAT (and October if needed). I was wondering what strategy I should take? I am currently bouncing between LR-LG-RC day by day. So I started the LR section of the course, now I am on the introduction of Logic Games for example. With so little time to August is this a good strategy? Note I work full time and do about 2-3 hours a day.

I am really loving the course and completely regret not doing this, I feel like I didn't really learn anything with the Demon.

Thanks all!

Hi, I just wrapped up blind review for a section and the only question that I got wrong and then BR correctly has a (?) next to its pin. What does this mean? I haven't spotted this in any of my other problem sets.

My expected flaw for this question was : what if CEO are not representative of top management? Top management can include (CFO, VP, director etc...)

I found many of the answer choices are quite attractive. I was between D and E... I chose E because it match my prephrase. Two questions in short: Why is E wrong and why is D right?

I am not satisfied with the answer Manhattan forum provides, the reason they said this is not a unrepresentative sample is "I will not give you a standard poll or survey and expect you personally to decide that based on your subjective opinion of what constitutes a representative sample that the poll or survey is flawed"....

So polls can never be unrepresentative??

As my question for D: "CEO's claims are reflected in actual practice", how did they go from the popular belief is unfounded to presuming CEO's claims are reflected in actual practice??

I didn't think there was a good answer...

Why is D correct? and what kind of flaw is this?

"Faden presumes, without providing justification, that the evidence for a claim has not been undermined unless that evidence has been proven false"

but I thought we are not allow to go after the truth of premise?

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I was wondering if there is any statistic or if anyone can speak from personal experience regarding the number of questions wrong a high scorer gets in regard to logical reasoning. I understand that it can depend from person to person and that you can make up for a low logical reasoning score by getting less mistakes in the other sections. However, in average I believe that there is a certain range of logical reasoning mistakes that high scorers make!

Thank you!

Could anyone explain this to me? I'm a little lost. Thanks!

I am following the schedule of the for the October 2021 test. While reviewing the weekly curriculum I noticed that after week 5, I start taking 5-6 LSAT's a week up until test day. Is this recommended? I feel like it takes me at least two days to take a test, blind review, and watch/review explanations to any missed questions. Not sure I would have enough time to do that many in one week. Thanks!

Hi everyone,

I wanted to write this because I felt it important to demonstrate that with hard work and dedication, this test IS learnable. I still have a long way to go but don't give up, I have seen a few posts in the last couple of days about a member not feeling like they have seen any improvement, or just struggling with the test, I am here to say that is possible with hard work. I am an older student (mid 30s) with a family, work, school full time and it CAN be done. Do not give up, if you are struggling rewatch the CC or hire a tutor if needed. I started to actively study end of May, my score was a whopping 146, my test today after a month and a week, 161. I was so defeated and still am at times but I have seen a huge improvement in the month that I've been studying. I have attached screenshots of the first test and one that I just finished now.

I want to thank this community, although I am not one to post, I am always reading and appreciative of the support and advice shared.

Goodluck to everyone taking their tests soon and a big congratulations to those who already took it.

-Cynthia

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This might be a really dumb question but I'm really confused. Since August is 4 sections - are they all scored, or only 3? And if so, then its out of 75 and not 101 (roughly), but how do we get our score? Should I be doing "simulate flex" or just keep doing all 4?

Thanks!

hi there! i've been seeing some folks on here talk about how they are fool proofing all the games from pt 1-35. i wanted to know if this is really recommended, as i usually only fool proof the games i am getting answers wrong in from pt 50 onwards. appreciate all of your advice

Hello everyone!

I just took the June LSAT Flex yesterday and really don't feel good about it. I know for a fact that I underperformed and my anxiety got the best of me. My first section was LG (which is usually my strongest section) but I was really nervous during the first game to the extent that I had to let it go and then come back at the end to finish it. After LG, I remembered I felt so bad that I was thinking to cancel the score during the exam. I did finish the four games and guessed on 1 question but I just really am not sure how I did.

My RC and LR were average I would say. I definitely could have done better because I was having some trouble concentrating sometimes during the test. I couldn't sleep the night before the exam so that really didn't help lol.

My PT average has been a 168 since April. And my April Flex score was a 164. After my April Flex I actually felt pretty ok but I got a 164. My fear is that if I don't cancel my score it is likely that it will be lower than my April score since I felt much worse than last time. I worry that the drop will not make my application look good.

And lastly, I have already signed up for August so I am retaking it anyway.

Thank you in advance for your insights and help! And congrats to everyone who has finished the test and best of luck to those who haven't taken it : )

I just got back my October LSAT, and received a 174! I honestly am floored, and wanted to thank everyone on the 7Sage team + people on these discussion boards. I pretty much exclusively used 7Sage to study, and have 0 doubt that I would have never been able to perform well on the test without this site and community. Having taken most of the PTs and done the CC, I was helped immeasurably by informative user comments, and by all of JY's absolutely superb (and entertaining) videos.

As an aside, I ended up needing 3 takes and 7 months to finally hit my target (2 high 160s on my first two takes) - if it would be useful for anyone, I'd be happy to type up a much longer post that goes into depth about section strategies/study tips (and feel free to PM about this too).

Thank you 7Sage + JY for the help! Glad to be finished with this test after 3 takes, and to dig into some ice cream!

I am scoring in the 165-170 range and my BR score shot up by +10 points.

Granted, I did my BR across 2 days, 2 sections each. I was plateauing for a while so I wanted to really sit and get to the root of the problem.

My most inconsistent hence worse performing section is RC. I attempt three passages in total(out of time) and I score around -5 (in total after reasonably guessing in the 4th passage).

I have some trouble of NA, PSA and SA questions which I am thinking could be fixed by drilling.

Games are usually fine, but if I picked up speed-I could check my work for accuracy and close the -2 to -1 gap that happens

sometimes.

My biggest problem that leads to the staggering difference is mental fatigue/lack of focus/losing the ability to be 100% attentive as I reach the end of section 2 or start section 3. While I know meditation and such factors could help, I am also assuming, if it has to do with the fact that I am not moving fast enough/not answering the earlier LR questions fast enough and giving them too much thought thereby wasting mental energy instead of doing a turbo LR start.

I am looking to all of you people for insights and advice.

Thank you.

My name is Ken. I live in Songdo, Incheon, currently going through the CC. If you are studying for the LSAT within Korea, we can maybe meet at a study cafe and study together. Please leave your email below?

I'm a lone LSAT studier and always see people posting on here looking for study buddies or creating very ~exclusive~ high scoring study groups

I'm genuinely interested in what y'all do--taking August LSAT so prob a bit late to join this party but just out of curiosity, if you've ever had a 7sage or reddit study buddy what did you do together? Review exams? Vent about LSAC? Moral support?

Hey everyone, i'm looking for possible advice on how to improve in LR

I've began 7sage early this year for a month and a half but had to stop due to an intense semester. But I've completed the whole CC for LR in June and I've scored well on the question sets for every question type (not extremely well on the hardest sets tho). However, when I drill LR sections (PTS 36-45) I do not do as well as I've expected to do. Currently I average -14 to -16 per 51 questions. Some problems I experience is 1- I don't understand the stimulus well (even after BR) and 2- I mismanage my time and get stuck on a question for wayyyy too long. Thus, shooting myself in the foot and ruining my chances of getting other questions right as I don't have enough time.

Now I realize that these problems are common and sound easy to overcome as I can skip those questions and focus on the ones that I understand well and can answer easily instead of wasting time. However, I want to improve drastically on this section because it's half the test and it paves a way to a higher score.

My current line of thinking is that I should focus on getting 22 questions correct (hopefully) and I should skip three to four, which would my decrease my wrong answers to 6-8. I know this is easier said than done but I've found BR to be helpful and can see myself achieving that in the following weeks.

Having said that I'd like to hear what y'all have done to improve your score in this section and what you think about my current line of thinking. Any advice would be highly appreciated. Also, if there are helpful discussion forums out there that you found helpful please link it.

Thank you

Are there any tips on how to take notes of stimulus and passages on digital LSAT?

I am looking for a study buddy/accountability partner for studying. My PTs are in the high 150s and I'm looking for someone in the PST. Please let me know if you're interested! I'm planning to take the October test.

Hi! I am looking for a accountability partner for the October Exam. I work full time so preferably someone who will be studying in the evening and on weekends. I would also love to join any group chats.

Hi everyone,

Foremost, I appreciate everyone for reading my post. I am wondering what I should do when I am done with the CC. I intend to do every PT. I am wondering what steps I should follow when doing the PTs. For example, do I take a timed test and blind review? Should I compile a wrong question note? Could you please share exact steps you took for approaching each PT?

I know that they are precious, so I don't want to just burn through them. Please help.

Effective July 8, 2021, the LSAC have introduced two distinct Fee Waiver packages to assist candidates of varying economic circumstances. Candidates who meet the criteria will receive access to the following, based on the tier for which they are approved.

Tier 1: Designed for the most under-resourced candidates. Candidates approved for Tier 1 will receive, at no charge:

Tier 2: Designed for less under-resourced candidates. Candidates approved for Tier 2 will receive, at no charge:

Eligibility for the LSAC Fee Waiver Program is based on the U.S. federal poverty guidelines, with different thresholds for independent and dependent candidates. In the past, for example, an independent candidate earning less than or equal to 250% of the federal poverty guidelines, and a dependent candidate earning up to 150% of the poverty guidelines, were eligible for the LSAC fee waiver, provided they met thresholds for cash balances, overall assets, and other requirements.

Under the new program, an independent candidate earning up to 250% of the federal poverty guidelines will continue to be eligible for the Tier 1 fee waiver package. An independent candidate earning 250-300% of the poverty guideline will now be eligible for the Tier 2 fee waiver package. Similarly, dependent candidates will be eligible for the Tier 1 fee waiver package if they earn up to 150% of the poverty guideline; if their income exceeds this amount, they can receive further consideration if their income combined with their family income does not exceed 300% of the poverty guidelines. All candidates will still need to meet other eligibility criteria.

In addition to creating the new tiered system for fee waivers, the LSAC is also increasing the maximum cash balances candidates can have and still qualify for one of the fee waiver tiers. Previously, the limitations on cash balances had prevented some candidates from qualifying for fee waivers.

The LSAC encourage students to apply for fee waivers at least six months in advance of when they plan to take the LSAT, so they have an opportunity to fully utilize PrepPlus, which is included in the fee waiver packages.

Here goes...

I took the LSAT, got a 156, waited a year and retook and got a 156. In that time my average went up, average before was a 156 and average a year later was a 164. I hit 162, 164, 165, 166, 168, 169, and 172 (once) the second time around. I had decided to just move forward and not retake for a third time but now that I am looking at how little money I will probably get, if any, I am worried.

For those wondering, I did practice in simulated sessions, didn't stop my tests, and reviewed each test I took about 3 - 4 times. I think the issue was that I took a lot of PT's in the late 40's - 60's range and not enough new prep tests. And honestly, I feel like the old PT's were easier. The 2 real tests I have taken felt considerably harder than the PT's and I choked both times on LG.

I say all of that to ask what should the plan of attack be moving forward? This time around I would focus solely on the new PT's and redo those I took in the past. But more than that, how do I prevent choking on logic games and improving my RC/LR sections?

Lastly, I had decided to not retake because I am burnout and frankly tired of this entire process. I am not sure that realistically I actually would do better on a real test. I almost submitted a score appeal but even LSAC say's "any differences in scores earned on practice tests versus actual tests are highly unlikely to indicate a scoring error" and I've read that people only marginally do better when they retake. So, I am also wondering if I should even do it.

For reference, I have a 3.9 and graduated with Latin Honors, and other honors.

The top 3 school's I want to get into LSAT medians.

160, 162, 168.

25th percentile.

157, 156, 164

The 164/168 is obviously a dream school. But I am thinking of applying ED, and I am a state resident.

I am debt adverse but honestly also LSAT for a third time adverse.

Hey folks. I always seem to struggle with the analogy questions on RC passages. Does anyone have any tips/tricks?

PT 48, S3, P2, Q9 is the latest one I've come across.

Thanks!

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Hello everyone, it's ya boi lsat_sus.

Today marks exactly 1 year since I got on 7sage. I started with a diagnostic of 148 (PT 78), and I remember thinking "fuck that," and began my LSAT process.

Over the past 11 months, I went through the CC twice, took ~20 PT's, re-took each individual section at least 3 times, and fool-proofed games 1-45. In the end, my average PT score was a 156. Fuck yeah.

Then I remembered a quote "insanity is doing the same shit over and over when it doesn't fucking work." So I switched my strategy. I listened to the podcasts, and decided to work with a tutor. I looked at my budget and reached out to Mr. Daniel aka @canihazJD. He just gave off hellaaa good vibes and yes, that was the sole basis of my decision - I'm a proud millennial, fuck you boomer (jk).

This man literally transformed my game. I spewed every single thought that popped into my mind (sorry Daniel) on every single question and he slashed all the useless parts and affirmed the important parts. In such a short time, the CC and explanation videos started making sense. I used to hate when JY says "who cares," but now I love it. It saves me time. "Holy fuck," I said. Those 11 months were not a waste.

After ~4 weeks of sessions, I am so grateful to have scored a 172 timed, 176 BR. That's almost a 20 point jump. Daniel literally carried me harder than SKT Faker in 2013, and YES.. it's a flex PT.. It's not a real exam.. it's luck.. i'm a 'lil bitch.. but a win's a win and Ima bask in the ambience of my hero's journey. My family's proud, my girl likes it (wink wink), and I just need to execute on the upcoming LSATs.

LET'S DO THIS BABY! THE LSAT IS SUS AF.

Hi! I have been doing older PT (1990s) and I was wondering if I should just focus on more recent ones (2007 -->) . I am planning on writing my test in August. I have read that that later tests are harder but I have been scoring significantly better on those than in older tests. Any recs? or should I study both.