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For example I would like to do just the LG sections for a few earlier PTs, but I can't seem to access individual sections on the digital tool without taking the entire test. Nor can I blind review and check the answers just for one section. If this isn't an option now, I would highly recommend you guys make this a feature for future 7Sagers!

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"Are you in the first generation of your family to graduate from college?"

This is a complicated questions for me because my dad earned a bachelors degree over the course of his 20+ years in the military by taking classes online. He finished his degree after I had already started undergrad. I was the first person in my family to go to college in the traditional sense. My undergrad recognized me as first gen but I realize some institutions may have much stricter definitions. While my dad never "attended college" he did technically beat me to the degree. Should I just answer "no" to avoid the confusion?

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I'll be sitting for the November LSAT. Started mid August and going on third and final month.

Looking for any advice on how my last month should be spent. In fact, how should any 7sager's last month be spent? Any wisdom you all can offer would be stellar!

Goal:

-160, something like -20 overall.

LSAT progress:

-Began mid-August. J07 was a gut-punching 143. Turns out not a fluke, next PT days later was 142. End of August 143. BRs were 157.

-Taken during early CC days. Only finishing 60-70% questions and burning out mid-test. Was very reticent to skip. Not really skipping.

-Avg LR -13 LG -16 RC -14. Overall -43.

-Pushed through most of CC excluding RC. 50% through foolproofing LG. Tearing through Manhattan drill book. Not done with that.

Now:

-Early to mid October PTs were 156, 154, 152. BR is holding between 161 and 165.

-Now finishing some LR sections completely with 5-8 skipped Qs with about 3 mins to burn.

-Avg LR -11 LG -13 RC -11. Overall -35.

How should I proceed for each section? I'll assume that I need to wrap up LG foolproofing. Will LR CC repeat yield much? If so, should it be analytics-driven? Is RC CC going to yield anything more than BRing RC sections would?

Sacrifice older PTs below 50 for timed sections?

Thanks in advance, 7sage community. You all have been incredibly helpful.

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Feeling discouraged. I will put this in LSAT terms

Premise 1: according to stats (ie powerscore forum, Reddit, law forums etc) most diagnostic score are around 150

Premise 2: according to same sources, most people improve 10pts only

Premise 3: I did not score a 150. I did not do the logic game section (didn't know how to do it and gave up and just guessed on the 4 games).

Premise 4: if I had above average intelligence, I would have scored 150.

Conclusion: I am of below average intelligence and not capable of a high score.

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I’ve heard that the LSAT has gotten harder over the years to keep up with all the increased LSAT prep resources that are now available. My test scores seem to reflect that. I scored a 177 on PT 44 after only a week of studying logic games and another 177 on PT 52 after a month of going to an LSAT prep class. But on the recent PTs, 70 and up, my scores ranged from 170-174. I took the September LSAT (Saturday Observant) and scored a 173. Granted I haven’t put the time and effort into studying that I should have but I expected that I would be able to get close to my original score on PTs 44 and 52 especially after months of studying(albeit light). Any thoughts?

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I’m in at UVA.

Waiting to hear back from other T-14 schools. Curious to hear the community’s thoughts about UVA vs Columbia vs UPENN — but mostly UVA vs Columbia.

I love UVA — it’s oft discussed collegiality, clerk and big law placement, lack of class rankings, opportunity to graduate with a well-rounded education, proximity to D.C legal market with advantage of national name recognition. Nevertheless, Columbia seems to carry stronger name recognition (sorry to be so focused on rankings and prestige), perhaps, as does UPENN.

But what do you all think. Just very curious.

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Do schools penalize you for being under the word count? The majority of the schools I'm applying to have the same general prompt so I'm tweaking the same personal statement for each school. Currently, I'm just below 5,000 characters (which is the limit for School A), but School B gives a limit of 6,000. Will it be a bad mark against me for not using the entire character/word allowance?

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Hi all,

I've made some pretty respectable progress since the beginning of my LSAT journey. I went from 138 to the low 160s.

My improvements were:

LR -15 to about -6 (My BR is -2 to -3)

Games: -18 to about -2 (I can go -0 depending on mistakes or not, I make really stupid reading mistakes like assuming that its MBT when it says MBF"

RC: I average -13 (weakest section) and can't get any better, although i don't really practice this.

With only 4-5 weeks left, what should I focus on if I'm trying to score 165+? I want to drill RC for 1-2 weeks to see if I can turn that -13 to to a -7, but I'm not sure if that would be the greatest use of my time. I do 10 in 10 pretty well for LR, but questions 13-20 really stump me.

Open to any advice on how to get the most gains in 4 weeks, considering the information above.

Thanks i love you all, and thanks for reading!

PS: Reschedule isn't an option, I've put this darn test off for like 2 years already. I'm really proud of my improvement so far and want to be done with the LSAT by this Nov. 165+ is the goal, I would be happy with 163-164!

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Hi everyone.

I have really bad news.

We are taking down all of our free Logic Game videos on YouTube on November 15.

Two months ago, LSAC's legal department requested that we remove the videos on copyright violation grounds. We immediately retained Quinn Emanuel, one of the best law firms in the country, and worked with two amazing lawyers (one of whom used to be a 7Sager) to try to work this out with LSAC. Despite our efforts, they remain firm. Our remaining option was to litigate but we don't have the resources to pursue that path.

On November 15 our LG videos will no longer be available to the public for free. They will still exist, but only to students enrolled in a full 7Sage course. This way, we can track usage and send licensing fees accordingly.

These videos have been free for nearly eight years. In that time period, we created an alternative to the paradigm of expensive, in-class test prep in the form of free and low cost, on-demand lessons. I'm sad to see these free videos—a mainstay of both our business and social mission—go. I've had many students tell me that they couldn't afford a course but fully utilized our LG videos, which made me very happy. I've also had many tutors tell me that they don't tutor LG anymore because there's no need to. It makes me feel good to know that we made an impact for some students.

I wanted to see in quantitative terms how much of an impact the LG videos made.

We ran the numbers and generated the chart below. This is data pulled from our analytics. We did our best to exclude retakes, older data, and other data that might inflate scores. Look at the blue and grey lines for LR and RC. They peak around minus 3 or 4, meaning more 7Sagers got around 3 to 4 wrong per section than any other number. Compared to the full population of LSAT takers, this curve is likely left-skewed simply because they're all 7Sagers, a group of students who take their studies seriously. Still, the distribution is relatively normal; you can make out the curve. Relatively few people get -0/-1 on those sections.

Now look at the orange line for LG. The peak of the curve sits at -0/-1. Take a second to think about this. This means more 7Sage students taking PTs got an LG score of -0 or -1 than any other score. That's not normal.

https://i.imgur.com/wbGCrjb.png

I'm curious about the actual exam data on the yearly LG curve over the past decade. My guess is that the curve moved left, meaning the average student has been significantly improving on LG. The actual LG curve might even look similar to ours, since everyone had access to our LG videos. If true, this could offer an explanation for LSAC's increasing preference for weird, miscellaneous games.

Anyway, back to the fact that we're having to remove all our LG videos from YouTube, which is really the point of this post: I'm sorry. If I don't sound more upset about it, it's only because I've had two months now to absorb the blow.

You probably have questions. I'll try to check back here today and tomorrow to answer the ones I can.

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Hi everyone!

This question is for anyone who has already taken the LSAT. I am wondering what is allowed during the 20 minute breaks between sections, specifically, if snacks are allowed. I am hypoglycemic, and if I don't have a small snack every few hours, my blood sugar drops. I get dizzy and my brain performance suffers. If they do allow snacks during the breaks, how does this work? Can you bring your own? Or are there ones for purchase at testing centers? Any input would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Nicole

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I know it’s probably been discussed before, but what should I expect on test day? I’ve taken the LSAT before as the paper format. I would expect same registration process blah blah blah, but during the test as it is digital, I’m sure we’ll have scratch paper for the logic games section, but what about the others? Any advice would be much appreciated and thank you in advance.

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I wonder whether can we make an inference of A←s→C from A‑m→B‑m→C? (reference: PT62 section 2 Q19)

For sure, it would be an invalid argument if an inference of A‑m→C is made.

Neither the lessons from The Valid Argument Forms nor the from The Invalid Argument Forms include this inference.

Seems ok to me.

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Hi all! I decided to delay taking the LSAT until next year thanks to everyone's advice on here.

One question I have is re: the LSAT journal and how people are keeping track of troublesome Qs / question types, Logic Games, etc. Now that everything is digital I am doing the problem sets and PTs on my iPad, but in order to review the questions or particular games I feel like having them printed out and in a binder would be more helpful.

Could you please share your strategy for reviewing old games / questions? Especially given the transition to digital.

Or do you use the "flagging" feature within 7Sage?

What do your LSAT journals look like?

Thank you so much in advance!

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Hi 7Sage Community!

Looking for some advice. I am reapplying to my top choice law school. I was waitlisted last cycle and then eventually rejected. I will be retaking the LSAT this coming Monday and have since entered a legal internship as well as started a new position with more responsibility at work. I had a pretty substantial personal statement that highlighted my leadership experience and work experience in undergrad, I'm now wondering how I can craft or update my personal statement for this cycle. Any advice is gladly welcome, thank you in advance!

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I see that I was admitted to a school on the application status checker but a week later I am still waiting for some kind of an official word i.e a letter/call/email. Does anybody know how long it usually takes? What has been the experience thus far?

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