I am scheduled to take the July LSAT. I plan on purchasing a prep course immediately afterwards to prepare for the October LSAT. While there are quite a few programs on the market, I have narrowed my choices to 7Sage vs LSATMax. Being users of 7Sage, what would you say are the main reasons to choose 7Sage over LSATMax? I would especially love to hear from anyone who has used both courses previously and can compare them first hand.

Hi everyone,

I have finished the CC and have taken 3 PTs (36,37 and 39) scoring 149, 149 and 152 respectively with blind review scores of low 170s for all three. As reflected in my blind review score, the content is not the main issue for me but rather timing is. I have missed 1 game and 1 one RC passage for the past three timed exams and constantly miss around 6-7 questions per LR section. I am currently in the process of fool proofing games from PT 1-35 so I hope by September I am able to finish all the games in 35 minutes, but I am wondering what do you recommend for timing especially for LR sections? Do you think the jump from 149 to 166+ is reasonable with two months of full-time studying (45hr/week) focusing on timed practice? Also, since my BR is higher than my actual score currently, do you think its okay to start taking 2 PTs/week?

Thank you all in advance!

Short summary: DO IT. It's money well-spent.

A quick shoutout to 7Sage's courses and admission consulting service. Saved my sanity after my first LSAT being way below my expected score. I came from a non-traditional background for law school, and 7Sage was able to guide me through school selection and essay drafting. Most importantly, follow ups from schools (additional essays, interviews) that made all the difference to my application. My advisor, Sarika, was patient and proactive. She fully allowed me to dig my own story while guiding me in the right direction - which was significantly easier and more efficient than wandering on my own!

My take on admission consulting is that, for a fraction of the tuition you are about to pay, you get the peace of mind that you will be able to show your best side to admission officers, which may end up in huge saving if you a) got into a better school or b) got a scholarship.

And if it helps clarifying my stand, I DID get into my dream school. And I compared 7sage vs. other Admission consulting firms.

7 Sage is probably the most reasonably priced service, but you do get (a lot) one-on-one working time, and you can feel that attention (Procrastinator alert!). And I would be happy to answer any questions if you want my grain of salt on 7Sage's service.

Hope this helps!

I am worried I may not have enough time to complete the curriculum without rushing. I am signed up for the September 21st LSAT date. Do I have enough time? Should I jump around from LR to LG to RC; or should I just complete the lessons in the order they are presented? My initial diagnostic was around 135 and I'm hoping to get into the 160's. I suppose I can always retake, but I want to apply to law school this fall for the year 2020. I've been making good progress with the LR lessons and am going to keep plugging away. I'm working 50 plus hours per week currently and studying about 3 hours per day in the evenings. With one rest day that means about 18 hours per week of study time. I'm also trying to pt twice per week.

Hi everyone,

Today I just did my first timed test

My weakest section was definitely RC (I feel like i spent too much time on the third passage and rushed through the last one, I dont really know what happened) and best was the LG (completely messed up the first game though). I am about to do my first BR.

I did the "learning" and the drills in our course. I have been studying constantly for nearly 2 months now.

I was feeling really down about this and feel terrible about myselif, in general. I wanted to know how you all saw the most improvement in your scores. I want to bring mine up, ideally, another 15 points. I wanted to know what your suggestions to improve were. Should I keep doing timed tests and BRs or should I get a prepbook or a tutor? I know it is only my first PT, and I intend to do the most recent (as of 50).

Any advice would be really appreciated. :(

People who take the LSAT tend to be driven, which is a good thing. But many of us try to get things done by cutting down on sleep. It may seem counterintuitive, but you’ll get more done in less time if you’ve got a full night of sleep, rather than cut down on your precious snooze time.

I speak from experience. I used to be someone who lived by all nighters. Sure, I got things done. I would’ve gotten a lot more done in less time if I had a full night’s sleep. Sleep deprivation seriously slowed my processing speed, affected my mood, and studies show that it can actually lead you to over eat. When I discovered the book Power Sleep, by James Maas. It literally changed my life. My SAT score went up 150 points to the 99th percentile, not from additional study - I just got a good night’s sleep before my retake!

Here are some key points:

First let’s define a proper night’s sleep. I’m not talking about “getting by” on 5-6 hours. Your ability to process information is impaired with those limited hours. Especially if you’re taking something as intense as the LSAT.

To get adequate sleep you need anywhere from 8 to 10 hours. LeBron James is reported to get 12. Yes —That’s half the day. A good rule of thumb is that you’ll have enough sleep so that although you set your alarm clock, you’ll get up a bit before it – in essence, you won’t need your alarm clock. If that’s eight for me or ten for someone else, the point is that’s your number and you’ll function so much better with that amount of sleep.

The analogy I often use with my students is that it’s like having a laptop that is super slow at opening applications. That’s what my brain feels like when I don’t get enough sleep. Everything seem to take longer – almost painfully.

And trust me, I can tell when my students aren’t getting enough sleep. If we hadn’t had the conversation yet, that’s usually when we talk about sleep. And I feel for them, because I was that student and it looks so painful on the other end :)

Here are some key tips to proper sleep:

Set a regular sleep schedule. Despite misconceptions, it’s not like you really can make up sleep that you missed during the week or weekend (read about it in Power Sleep). So try to get that 8 to 10 hours consistently each night - and at the same times.

If you know that you’ve got your LSAT exam at a certain time, make sure that your sleep time is habituated for it well in advance.

Having trouble sleeping?

make sure that all lights and devices are off. If you live in a sunny climate like me, consider getting black out curtains if necessary.

Speaking of devices, you can use features like the sleep clock on iPhone to prompt you when it’s time to go to bed and keep you on a proper sleep cycle.

Limit caffeine intake before bed.

Perhaps my favorite — read an actual book before bed. Not a device, an actual paper format book. It’s old-school but if there’s no glare, and if it bores you to sleep even better!

Feel free to contact me with any questions on this or anything LSAT related.

I have an issue with AC A because I don't see how the argument's sub-conclusion draws from the stated claim. It seems to me that there is a need for an unstated assumption - something along the lines of "heavy industrial activity rids a region of its natural beauty". The part of the claim about dependence on natural beauty is a necessary condition for the operation of many local businesses. So, correct me if I'm wrong, but in order for the claim to be "direct" evidence for the argument's sub-conclusion, doesn't this sub-conclusion have to invoke the notion of how natural beauty would be tarnished in the presence of industrial activity? Without this notion, there could be many reasons why coal mining would force the majority of local businesses to close, one of which being (perhaps) the more lucrative or stable business opportunity of starting your own coal mine.

Also, it seems to me that the same unstated assumption mentioned above, needed (in my opinion) to classify the claim as "direct" evidence for the argument's sub-conclusion, can analogously be used to classify the claim as "direct" evidence for the argument's main conclusion: if coal mining harms natural beauty, then it seems reasonable to expect that coal mining would reduce the number of jobs since many local businesses depend on natural beauty.

Would appreciate any thoughts on this.

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I'm trying to figure out how to get my proper BR score. While I PT I flag the questions I missed and the questions I didn't do because I ran out of time (generally marked with the same AC if they are all consecutive and towards the end). Should I :

A) Do flagged questions and then score the timed PT and the BRd PT

B) Do flagged questions, check to see if I missed any questions I didn’t flag (without checking/remembering what the correct AC was) do those, keep ACs I chose for flagged questions and then score the timed PT and BRd PT?

C) Score the Bad PT twice: once after doing flagged questions and then once after doing the questions that were wrong but I did not circle them (I will just keep note of the first BR score after doing just flagged questions)

I do not intend to score the flagged question attempt if I still got it wrong or chose the wrong AC after BRing--I will just go review it, watch the video explanation and come back to it another time.

This is mainly for LR. I plan on just doing the LG section untimed, drilling it until I am under target time for each game and at 100% accuracy and then I will add the correct AC to that section in the BR score. I also plan on doing the RC section untimed to make and scoring that section into BR score.

I am also working with a blank copy (writing in July so just in case) but would like to know how any of this may be possible with digital because I plan to write in September as well.

I took international test and got my first official score today.

I have 13 weeks to study, and want to ask what would be the best course of action.

It was non-disclosed, so I don't really know how I did on each section. but I've been PTing at 164 for like 10 tests in a row.

For RC, I skipped the last passage totally and didn't even read the passage, skipping 5Q.

For LR, I skipped parallel questions and logic heavy questions(I think 5~6Q total from both LR sections) initially and came back afterwards to check if D is indeed the right answer.

I've done 22 PTs from PT 50+ so far, and have 17 fresh ones from PT 50+.

I've came up with three plans, but can't decide which one would be better.

Plan 1)

wk 1~3: CC + Manhattan prep LR book, 4 games, 2 passages every day

wk 4~13: 2 PTs / wk (1 used PT, 1 fresh PT)

Plan 2)

wk 1~13: 2 PTs / wk (1 used PT, 1 fresh PT)

Plan 3)

wk 1~3: 1LR timed section, 4 games, 2 passages every day.

I can't decide on what to do next. I've been getting the same score for last two months of PTs, so there might be something wrong with my current studying method... is 3 months enough to get 170+?

Hi all,

On the paper LSAT, we had (aspirational) strategies for pacing like first five/fifteen questions in the first five/fifteen mins. Is there something similar you use for the digital LSAT? How do you handle pacing in LR in particular on the digital test?

On the paper LSAT, I try to get the first 4 pages done in ~15-18 minutes so that I had the remaining time for the last two pages. It's hard to translate this to the digital LSAT.

I suppose, I could try to get the first 13-15 questions done in ~15-18 minutes.

From looking at 3 random tests, the LR question breakdown is:

page 2- question 6-8

page 4-question 13-15

page 6- question 18-21

page 8- question 25-26

In terms of RC and LG--my timing strategies have stayed the same.

Does anyone know what kind of scholarship I can get to Cardozo and or Fordham with a 165?

My GPA was around a 3.9.

I'm applying this year and I'm looking to go to reputable school without taking on much debt, if at all.

Thanks a lot.

I’m entering my final year of undergrad. I’m able to graduate in December (one semester early) with a 3.6x GPA and I’m taking a gap year to work full time and finish up on preparing for the LSAT (aiming for a 170+).

I’m currently taking 7Sage Ultimate+ and will be practice testing with blind review for at least the next 8-10 months (already been studying with PowerScore for one month). I’m working full time right now for the summer at an internship and will be in class during the school semester, so this timeline works for me. I will apply in September 2020 for law school to enter in Fall 2021.

If I graduate in December, I will have a high 3.6x GPA and then begin working full time and continuing to study for the LSAT.

However, I could also stay for the final semester and graduate in May. I would take easier courses and spend more time with my professors that will write my recommendation letters. By doing this I can achieve a low 3.7x GPA. I also find studying for the LSAT to be easier while in college than working full time (more free time to study for LSAT).

Is it worth graduating normally to get a low 3.7x GPA as opposed to graduating early with a high 3.6x to get into a T14 (assuming I get a 170+ on the LSAT)?

Thank you for your help!

Fines levied against those responsible for certain environmentally damaging accidents are now so high that it costs a company responsible for such an accident more to pay the fine than it would have cost to adopt measures that would have prevented the accident. Therefore, since businesses value their profits, those that might have such accidents will now install adequate environmental safeguards.

Which one of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

A) Businesses generally greatly underestimate the risk of future accidents.

B ) Businesses are as concerned with long-term as they are with short-term strategies for maximizing profits.

C) Businesses generally do the environmentally “right” thing only if doing so makes good business sense.

D) Businesses treat fines that are levied against them as an ordinary business expense.

E) Businesses are learning to exploit the public’s environmental awareness in promoting themselves.

I am not 100% certain in understanding why A is correct and why D is incorrect.

Thank you.

It’s amazing to me how many factors go into how well you ultimately perform on test day beyond studying for months. For me, I noticed that simple things, like incorporating (light) exercise into my life, eating more protein, and doing a light jog before the test helped. As far as strategy, last time I focused on skipping to questions I can more easily answer first helped me get through section quicker.

What has improved results for you? Thought it’d be a nice topic for last minute tips and tidbits before July!

Does anyone know what the scheduled date for October score release is? LSAC just says TBD.

I'd feel more comfortable taking this test if I know scores will be sent before Thanksgiving.

I usually wake up early around 5:30am to study LSAT before work. I am wondering if there's anyone also like to study in the morning? What do you start with your morning study? I usually do some PT questions the night before and start with reviewing the question in the morning (first thing to do) or I will start with some lectures classes(gives my brain some time to wake up while listening to explanation LOL). how do you start with your morning study routine?

A question like this was posted before but it is kinda dated. So basically should I first do PT 36 then do like 40 then do most of my PT from 50-70 and leave couple of 80s before 2 weeks or something from my exam date?

On the last few PT's i've taken, all in the high 70s, i've noticed that i'm getting more of the harder questions right and some pretty easy (sometimes completely obvious) questions wrong. Just goes to show that we can't take the easier questions for granted.

I'd figure this would be something to laugh about!

Hi, all,

I've taken about a 4 month break from the LSAT do to personal reasons and just simply giving up. However, I am proud to announce that I am back and aiming to take the October 2019 LSAT.

Considering the LSAT is now digital, how should I resume? I was floating around the 155 range when I stopped and my break down was as follows:

Games: -2 to -6 on games (I've had perfect sections once or twice)

LR: -11 on the easier LR and -12-13 on the harder LR (My BR isn't much higher, i really need to work on my LR foundation)

RC: -15 on RC - Never really practiced this, I plan to go through the CC portion or the LSAT trainer on this section.

I'm aiming for 160, but please let me know what a reasonable jump is in about 15-16 weeks.

Any advice is MUCH appreciated, I am also open to PM's. THANKS!

I know July takers will have the unique option to cancel their score and retake the test free of charge. What I want to know is, what if I want to retake but don't want to cancel my score? Does that mean I have to cough up another 200 bucks to LSAC?

Hi everyone,

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By this I mean: how do you tackle each section, under time constraints?

For example, in LR I will skip a question that will take up half the page because it will just suck my time.

For RC, I will tackle the subjects I am more familiar with or have an easier time understanding (econ, science).

For LG, I will sometimes skip the last quesiton in the section, depending on how much time I think it will take. I also bounce around in each game, depending on the game and what I see.

Does anyone else have anything to help with the time constraints? I am just beginning to time myself now that I have finished "learning".

:)

Because law school applications won't become available for at least another month or two, I'm trying to figure out roughly how much time each will take. Do all of the top 10 have additional essays, or are most applications easily/quickly filled out and submitted? Just trying to plan ahead and schedule time. Thanks!

Can someone provide me with an example of what "distorts an argument against X, and then attacks this distorted argument" would look like?

PT C2, Section #3, Question #6 Answer Choice D

This game has virtually no rules to solve MPT questions.

During PT, I spent 15 minutes for the first 3 games, but I couldn’t finish game 4 in 20 minutes. I technically guess the last 4 answers because there are infinite possibilities.

I must did something terribly wrong. Please help.

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