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In Logical Reasoning sections, LSAC loves to test us on how we interpret studies. For example, a study is described, a conclusion is drawn, and it becomes our job to evaluate how well the study supports the conclusion. These questions are common and come in the form of: flaw, strengthening, weakening, necessary assumption, sufficient assumption, and if they are feeling really ambitious: resolve reconcile questions.

These questions mostly turn on how well the study is controlled. This video below takes you through what it means for an experiment to be controlled and why it is fundamental to "good" science.

Next time you do an LR section, notice how much the controlled experiment comes up, and how you must understand what makes it better or worse!

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Hi everyone! Hope everyone is doing okay during these difficult times and have all they need (or at least the capacity to get what they need). I also hope you are practicng social distancing and takign advantage of all the streaming services available!

I have decided to take a gap year to really work hard to get the score I need and want before I apply to law school. I am planning to, ideally, register for the September and/or October LSAT(s). I'll have at least 6 months to study for this exam if I use April-May to go through the core curriculum again while doing online remote learning (with a potential pass/fail transcript recording) and I will ideally start focusing on timed practice (PTs and sections) starting in June until the end of the summer and/or until I take the exam. I will be able to study full-time during the summer and potentially until I take the exam. I have not done any kind of studying since October of last year and none of the studying I have done in the last 6 months was consistent so it is safe to say I am starting from square 1, with some knwoledge of the lsat and curriculum.

I would like to get some thougths on a few things:

Reviewing core curriculum again--how do I get the most out of it?

Taking a diagnostic that is not June 2007(since I already have) but an exam that is close to the rigor of what I would expect on the more recent exams

I would like to allot at least 25-30 PTs to take under-timed conditions--- any ideas on the best batch?

Foolproofing--when and for how long (this is subjective of course but please share thoughts and experiences). Obviosuly you foolproof games that you do after PTs if you did not go - 0 but outside of that, what is the best and most efficient way to foolproof The Bundle(also subjective but see above;))?

how many PTs per week when I start timed practice?

The best time to start timed practice (regardless of my timeline)?

Who has done a study plan similar to the one I am doing?

How to avoid/deal with burnout?

Anything else I should keep in mind and/or incorporate?

I am a shooting for a 165 or better and have averaged in the high 140s and low 150s in the past (fewer than ten PTs), but that may prove to be irrelevant given my time off. Anything is possible imo so please tell me how you do this--ups and downs and all if you had a similar study plan and were in a similar scoring range.

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Hello Sagers, with the quarantine in full swing I hope you have all been able to find ample time to study and research ways to further advance towards your goals. With that being said I have been doing a lot of refreshing and with the extra time I have found myself with, went back and listened to some of J.Y.'s podcasts with 7sagers who had great success stories, i.e. 140's-150's starting point to 170's+ on test day. Idk about anyone else, but I find these very illuminating and uplifting, especially when you find yourself frustrated or stuck. These gave me insight to people with similar struggles to myself and dove in to how they overcame them. They help you get off the canvas when you've been knocked down so to speak. Anyway they give me confidence and hope that I can push forward with patience and the proper strategy and setting a high score bar for myself is not an impossible task.

SO would it be possible for J.Y. to do more podcasts with other more recent 7sagers who have triumphed?! Anyway I loved them! If you have heard the past ones, I suggest checking them out.

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Goodmorning everyone,

I hope you all are well and safe during these intense times in the world. I received a letter from my top choice stating that I have been waitlisted. This was both awesome and painful to read knowing I may or may not be admitted to my top choice. I received this in mid-February. I have been waiting to send a substantive LOCI in early April, but did not express immediate interest when I received the letter from admissions. Have I hurt my chances by waiting too long to respond?

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Hello fellow 7Sagers,

Do any of you recommend writing out notes while watching explanation videos for harder questions such as NA, Parallel Flaw, SA etc.?

Just wondering because I feel it would really make you engage with the question and really analyze why you may have gotten the question wrong or right. And bonus, you can go back to the notes in case you miss the question again when fool proofing.

Thoughts?

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Hi everyone,

Hard question here: can anyone explain why answer choice A is completely incorrect? I can see how, based on the passage, "standardizing traditional languages" is "sometimes unnecessary" from lines 39-42, but I still can not find textual evidence for how "standardizing traditional languages requires arbitrary choices". The rhetorical question raised in lines 36-38 express arbitrariness, but I don't understand how we were supposed to know that this arbitrariness was "required" by standardization. No need to explain B,C,D, and E.

Thanks!

#help

Admin note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-29-section-2-passage-2-questions/

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Hi everyone,

This might sound like a dumb question, but would anyone be able to explain why C is wrong in this question?

I thought C could be correct here because:

  • lines 29-31 explains the obstacle that "sometimes" prevents a perfect conversion of oral language to written language.

  • while lines 32-35 describe how we have yet to see such a perfect conversion of written language to oral language, it does not state that such a perfect conversion is actually impossible.

    • Thus, while I understood why the answer was A (since "all but impossible" = very difficult to make possible), I had trouble fully eliminating answer choice C because I thought that since we understood the obstacle that "sometimes" prevented us from perfectly converting oral language to written language (aka "exact match"), taking away that obstacle should make that goal "attainable".

    Any #help would be appreciated!

    Thanks!

    Admin note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-29-section-2-passage-2-questions/

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    I'm doing the RC problem sets of the core curriculum currently and it seems like the RC passages are taking me a while. For passages that are 5 questions it takes me 10 minutes to complete that passage, and for passages that are 7-8 questions it usually takes me 15 minutes to complete.

    How do I get faster at this? And what is a good time to aim for for each passage?

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    Hey guys, if you're quarantined and feeling kind of isolated, let's hang out on Zoom!

    Next hangout:

    TBA

    https://zoom.us/j/199963424

    Future hangouts:

    TBA

    Past hangouts:

    Wednesday, March 18, 8:15pm ET

    Tuesday, March 24, 8:15pm ET (main conclusion questions)

    Tuesday, March 31, 8pm ET (main conclusion - mss hybrid questions)

    Tuesday, April 7, 8pm ET (mss questions)

    Tuesday, April 14, 8pm ET - 10pm ET (weakening questions part 1)

    Tuesday, April 21, 8pm ET - 10pm ET (weakening questions part 2)

    Tuesday, April 28, 8pm ET (resolve, reconcile, explain (rre) questions)

    Tuesday, May 5, 8:15pm ET (strengthen questions)

    Tuesday, May 12, 7pm ET (psa questions)

    Tuesday, May 19, 7pm ET (sa questions)

    Tuesday, May 26, 7pm ET (na questions)

    Tuesday, June 2, 7:05pm ET (must be true questions)

    Tuesday, June 9, 7:30pm ET (method of reasoning questions)

    Tuesday, June 16, 7:05pm ET (flaw/descriptive weakening)

    Tuesday, June 23, 7:05pm ET (flaw/descriptive weakening)

    Tuesday, June 30, 7:05pm ET (parallel reasoning / analogy)

    Tuesday, July 7, 7:05pm ET (parallel flaw / analogy)

    Tuesday, July 14, 7:05pm ET (point at issue: agree/disagree)

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    I was scheduled for the March LSAT, and LSAC said they would automatically put March test takers into the April test. However, online it still says I'm registered for the March test. Do I have to fill out a form or something? Is anyone else having the same problem?

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    Dear All,

    Hope quarantine finds you all well! I have posted in the past I just graduated with a 3.75 from a top 30 undergrad and have experience with tribal nations and international criminal law. My weakness is a 156 LSAT which i am hopefully changing in april, I have been testing consistently in the 162-5 range. Once I got the 156 I was sure no law school would want me but my friend made me apply to 3. My results so far is waitlists from both GW and BC. I am curious how hard it is to go off these schools waitlists'? Also I am curious if I should just take a gap year and try again with a fresh batch of schools?

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    Since there are only finite LSAT resources, how do you all feel about/go about retaking practice tests?

    I understand that retake scores are not reflective of real test scores at all, but is it still helpful to retake? Is there anything that I ought to do differently for retakes for a more accurate score?

    I took a pretty long break from LSAT studies during finals week at school, and have been struggling to get back into it. I figured retaking an old PT may be a good jumping off point as I can get the feel for testing again without wasting a fresh test.

    Any advice (re: retakes or jumping back in after a break) would be much appreciated!

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    is this for me?

    My first diagnostic, I scored a 134. I signed up with 7Sage and only had two months to study prior to taking the Feb 20, 2020 LSAT. My second dignostic few days before the big day was 142. I thought about not going in for the LSAT because I just did not feel prepared (for obvious reasons). But alas, my over zealousness kicked in. I sat for the LSAT. I did not feel good walking out of it because I was ill prepared. I knew that going in but like I said, I just wanted to give it a go. YOLO. Anyway, I received my score few days ago, and let me just say LMAO. I saw it coming a mile away. I scored a 143. I am looking at it this way, I improved by 9 points just studying off and on for two months. I now want to register for November 2020 and give myself solid seven months to study.

    But here is the dilemma, this voice in my head is saying to drop this and work towards masters in Social Work. My end goal is to help people who feel helpless. I also want to help neglected children. I know I can achieve this goal by being a social worker but I am not a quitter. I had Loophole delivered to my house today. I want to pick it up and fix the errors and get better. I know I can get better but why am I feeling this way?

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    Hi 7sagers!

    I'm just starting out this whole process and I'm working on CC right now and while this whole quarantine thing is horrible, it has given me a lot of time to dedicate to studying! I scored a 139 on my diagnostic (I'm not proud but it is what is) and I'm looking to maximize and go all the way!!! I'm planning on taking the August exam so that gives me roughly 5/6 months to study. I love how positive and supportive this platform is and I'm looking for some accountability buddies to help keep me on track and I would do the same! Let's knock out this test together.

    Some extra facts about my study plan is I'm a full time student but now I have a whole lot of free time so if anyone wants to drop some study tips/hacks, that would be greatly appreciated! Thanks guys!!

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    Hi guys, happy quarantine/social distancing am i right... T^T

    I'm in college and the rest of our semester got shifted to online classes, and I am also the type of person that needs to go to the library to study, because I have no self control and easily distracted, i am trying to see who would like to potentially join me in my virtual study room and to keep each other on track for LSAT! I'm looking for people who would like to talk about strategies and ways of go about certain questions... or just want a study buddy to keep each other accountable.

    Please comment below and join me! we can do this together!

    Stay safe!

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    I hate that I have to bring up something "negative" but realistic. I have been thinking more and more about the impact of getting into debt during a potential recession and gaining employment after law school. Would anyone happen to have any insight in regards to the impact of a recession on the legal field?

    Thanks,

    Joseph

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    How do you guys deal with LR questions that you don't understand during your blind review? I mean the ones that you spent over like 2+ hours (even over a day) and you still did not understand (that is, even after viewing Powerscore forums). Should I leave them aside for a while? (there aren't that many - two to three - on 6 PTs so far) Would love to hear from someone with a 170+. Thanks!

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    Hello everyone

    Apologies for spamming the forum with all these posts but..

    JUST SO EXCITED TO SHARE THAT I GOT INTO HARVARD LAW SCHOOL!!!!

    I got the call this morning and still feel like I’m in a dream. I’m over the moon!

    This is quite possibly the second best price of news I’ve ever received. Yes because getting my dream LSAT score was definitely still more exciting because this wouldn’t have been possible without it... if I’m being totally honest.

    Anyway, my thoughts about LSAT prep still remains the same, and even reinforced further with this amazing piece of news: Everything is worth it in the end!!!

    You’ll see stories like this all the time here on 7sage. Why do so many of us take the time to share our joy here with the rest? It’s because this community is so strong, and the support we’ve received from each other along the way helps make these dreams a reality

    I’m just happy that I’m getting to live my American Dream

    Keep grinding!

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    I am curious to know if your BR process for any of the sections evolved at all once you started scoring in the 170s or once you were consistently hitting your target score. Did you still spend as much time on the "easier" questions during BR?

    Thanks!

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