Hi all. I am considering taking the July 2019 LSAT which will be my first go. Given that it is the first launch of the digital version of the exam, I have some reservations. Mainly, I am afraid of the fact that since the majority of my studying will be on paper, I feel less prepared for a paperless exam. I am aware of the benefits of the exam (e.g. no bubbles!), but I still like to simulate as realistic a testing environment as possible.

Does anyone know if any of the PTs will be made digital so we can simulate tests in a realistic way?

I believe that for the first digital exam, testers will be allowed to see their score prior to accepting it. Is this a worthwhile tradeoff?

I haven't checked out the LSAC tutorials yet, but I'm sure they will be somewhat helpful.

Anyone else have similar concerns? Any advice or insight would be greatly appreciated!

:P Hey guys,

Wanted to start a thread regarding lsat score increase in the last 2-3 weeks before exam.

Saw a few posters that had pretty decent jumps 2-3 weeks before exam.

Example “ Richard Rorty wrote:

i did it. I had a couple 162-3's, and a 165 I think. Two weeks and two days to go I got a 167 and then exploded to 174, and continued to score there. 173 on the real thing.”

For those that have increased more than 2-3 points , or even if 1 point, what were your last 2-3 weeks left study methods. Did you continue to study the same way as you’ve been studying? If you did anything different , what did you change or start doing ? Any specific plans?

Also what kind of score increase did you achieve ?

Anyone break through from anywhere in 160s to anywhere in 170s in that time period ?

Would really appreciate your responses !!

So for me, I have a tutor now and his plan for me is to focus on my strong suits and perfect those (LR) by constantly drilling the LR question types I’m seeing a pattern in getting wrong and then don’t move on from that type until I could “tutor” him and explain why the correct answers are correct and the wrong aren’t correct.

Then keep drilling LG ( kinda same method as for LR). As for time (which is a huge issue of mine) DON’T RUSH. Just keep practicing the games over and over and the deductions will start to become more clear to you and you’ll spot them faster and be able to work through the game faster naturally. When you rush you put pressure on yourself and can miss key deductions- which I can attest has seriously ruined games for me that would have went well if I just spotted that one deduction.

Also a trick he taught me that has been working well is, look for the least restrive entity in the answer choices for “could be true/could be false” questions, esp if you’re pressed for time. Then for “must be true/must be false” questions, look for the most restrictive entities , cause that are USUALLY (not always) the ones the questions will be most focused on. Try and make as many deductions as you can in the beginning before going to the questions. At first I thought this would waste time but it’s helped me TREMENDOUSLY. Some questions I could answer in literally seconds just from a deduction made in my main game board in the beginning that made it possible for me to see the answer right away.

Now RC, this is my ok section. I say this because untimed I don’t perform badly. Around -4 or -5 (although my goal is -2/-3) but timed I’m getting around -8 or even -12 because I barely get around to the last passage and if I do I only have time to answer the 1st or maybe 2nd question if I’m lucky :cry: . I think the best I did timed was -6 or -7 and not sure how lol.

He said this would be the most diff to increase a lot in in the next two weeks but keep practicing and work on not reading the passage fast but reading the passage in a way in which you grasp the idea of what is being written properly.

Also read in a way that you are paying attention to how it’s structured and make sure you can clearly identify the conclusion. For main point questions that’s what you look for. And for the summary questions you look for the answer that the majority of the passage speaks about, usually a topic that 2 or 3 of the pharagraphs all speak about.

Are any of these tips helpful to any of you?

I have some more but not sure if people would actually even care to read them lol.

However, if anyone has any other tips please share !

So to get back to the original topic, if anyone can answer that has

Please share and also say what scores you went from and what you did to get there !

Best of luck to everyone, keep pushing !!

I asked this as a comment in a different thread, but realized it might deviate the convo from the OPs point.

I'm interested in joining/starting a study group in my area (Newport, Jersey City NJ) but have questions.

When people do group study sessions, what's actually done in them? How do you decide what content is covered as a group VS individually, so that everyone gets the most out of it? How will the leader organize the content we go over, and is it expected that we finish the CC entirely before group studying?

I think the games below are beneficial for those finding themselves making "silly" mistakes when reading split game boards. Those mistakes are probably less "silly" and more indicative of a mechanical/procedural weakness you have - actually that was just the case for me. I don't want to paint with a broad stroke. Either way, I thought these were good games to do in a fool-proof kind of way to get splitting quickly and accurately down pat.

I'm having a hard time understanding why answer choice D) in Question 13 is wrong even though I have watched the video multiple times already. I was left with C) and D) timed.

Initially I thought "large geographical areas" in D) was fine b/c of line 18 to 20. But is it wrong because centers of style are dispersed OVER large areas as opposed to being large areas themselves?

Also the passage says the characteristics patterns are subtly different that few people outside of the area can distinguish Nuna masks from Ko masks around line 45. But D) says they are VERY DIFFICULT for outside observers to distinguish. Just because few can distinguish, doesn't mean it is VERY difficult for others. Had it said "not easy for others," would it have been better?

--Is this line of thinking acceptable...?

The question asks what the word "succession" in line 57 refers to. I read back over the part and thought that it referred to the action of "clearing followed by regular burning" and picked A. However it is C and I don't really understand why?

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Hey fam,

So I've been going over logic games, realizing that I've been having trouble doing new grouping games/grouping games I've never seen under timed conditions (as in, under the 7sage suggested time). This post is one part general advice request (please help, I honestly don't know what I'm doing wrong, and I haven't picked up on anything in my recordings aside from the fact that I'm not making inferences quickly enough), one part specific advice request.

Specific questions: I've been taking note of not both rules with logic. It's a hold over from in/out games and I also find it helpful for some games (Like PT18 game 1). But then there are other games (like PT26 game 3) that I am sure would be easier if I noted the many not both laws as blocks. My questions is, how do I choose between the two? Rule of thumb says, choose one and be consistent, right? Part of me is tempted to just go with whatever works. But in that case, how do I know which notation to pick when I'm setting up the game?

I know that some people are thinking, "just keep drilling, you'll figure it out." But I could really use some help seeing some patterns.

Please and thank you

I took my full fresh PT for the first time in months and after taking it, I couldn't study anymore and had to call it a day. Exhaustion. I BR'd one game and compiled a list of LR questions that I should BR before grading them but I'm so doing them tomorrow.

Do most of you BR full PTs on the day of taking them? Unless I'm on advil like 3 times a day, which I don't think is a great idea though I am no doctor, I doubt I can do full PTs AND BR them on the same day. But that automatically reduces the number of hours I study daily on PT days. Kind of torn here.

Please share your experiences.

P.S_ I'm currently studying full time. On a non-PT day, I typically spend 6 hr-ish(Meal/bathroom/rest/daydreaming/Browing on the internet excluded) fully dedicated to the LSAT.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BshMKC9BxND/

Looking for a meet-up in central NJ to go over questions, etc.

I've been saving a few problem sets from each lesson to do at a later time. My thinking behind this is that I'll be able to use them as practice. Is this this a good idea, or should I do all of the problem sets after each lesson?

I know it is ultimately my choice, but I'm curious about the opinions of others.

Hey guys,

Caught between a rock and a hard place on what to do given my current situation. Over the past month, I've consistently been reaching ~170 on PTs, however, over the weekend I had back-to-back performances in the low-mid 160s; my first time regressing since I began studying. I've consistently been putting in around 5 to 6 hours per day and have not been susceptible to any "burnout" thus far, but this weekend felt myself having a bit of a breakdown as I could tell I was under performing whilst I took the exams, creating a snowball effect, if you will. In general, I was missing questions that I normally do not and on BR they were just bad choices by not reasoning my way through the answers (I'm talking going around -10 on both LRs inc. "easy" questions early on like #2 and #3 when I usually go -2 or -3) I spoke to my tutor and he says it happens all the time and more than likely burnout, so I've decided to take a few days off to clear my head, but it does leave me concerned with the possibility that there's a more fundamental problem of consistency that needs to be addressed and solved before I sit down for the official administration.

Ideally, I would like to apply for this cycle and I have my sights on T14, but also will be applying T30. My applications are about ready to go but I do not have any official scores on the record and, in general, have this worry that I may be trying to force it given I'm already applying quite late in the cycle. After what took place over the weekend, I'm concerned about allowing the risk of a low 160 on my official record when I know I can do better; as I really do have my hopes set on T14. However, that decision to postpone is at the expense of not going to school for more than another year and a half, which in itself is a very hard pill to swallow given I am already in my late 20's and am itching to get this show on the road.

Really appreciate y'alls insight here.

-MG

Hi everyone. I would appreciate some advice. I am signed up to take the January 2019 LSAT. I thought, why not, might as well try one last time to get a higher score. However, in between work and submitting my applications (which took WAY longer than I ever imagined), I have not had time to study and do not think it is worth the effort at this point to re-take. I have already submitted my law school applications to two schools and indicated I would take the January LSAT. Therefore, my applications are "on hold" until the score is released. I already have two reportable scores, so do not need the third one for my application to be reviewed now.

Should I e-mail admissions with something along the lines of, "Dear Admissions Committee of X School, I am applying as a first-year law student. I submitted my application on X date. I am writing to update application information regarding my LSAT test scores. I will not be taking the January 2019 LSAT and would like for my reportable scores from X date and X date to be considered."

Any advice is appreciated!

Thank you.

Alright, so I've heard this term a few times now and I'd really like some advice on what it specifically is. E.g. am I looking for patterns in the reasoning structure? Patterns in the type of argument that is used? How do I go about looking for and charting these patterns?

Any help is appreciated!

These questions consistently take me three minutes to do when they're in the 4 or 5 stars difficulty. Takes me a minute to read and diagram the stimulus and then another two to read or diagram the answer choices, and I still get them wrong sometimes because of rushing. Do you guys have any advice on how you tackle these questions quickly? Thanks =)

Hi guys-

Silly question but can not figure this out. I added the names of the people who are recommending me in the LSAC's website. What do i need to do for LSAC to send them an email instructions on how to turn in their LOR?

thanks in advance!

I had the app on Android but as of today I stopped using it due to constant glitching which actually threw me off and my performance while practicing. While using the proctor during timed practice, it constantly jumps to the end of a section immediately after beginning a new one, or it ends earlier than it should. There are other random glitches, like today it just started playing static noise in the middle of a section (which wouldn't stop until I closed the app) which was distracting. Please consider fixing because the app could be a great tool but right now it's too unreliable to use.

Please offer your help with this question! Apologies for a long post.

We know that snowy land reflects MORE sunlight.

That means snowy land absorbs LESS sunlight. We dont know what effect this ABSORPTION has on earths overall temperature (although I think it is logically implied that absorbing light means absorbing heat so C doesnt add anything new!)

C) explains what the effect of absorbing sunlight has on overall temperature of the earth. Absorbing heat actually warms up the atmosphere.

So when the earth gets more snowy lands+iced ocean surface, which means there will be more sunlight reflected and less sunlight absorbed, the earth temperature will likely decline.

Again, I don't see how C strengthens because I thought more reflection logically implies less absorption. And less absorption means less heat absorbed. So C isnt saying anything new… Of course absorbed heat would warm up the atmosphere?!

Could someone also explain D? It is very tough to eliminate it.

I chose D) because it seemed to work as a defender Strengthener. There may be other factors such as volcanic eruptions that override the temperature change brought by having more snowy surfaces. If that is the case, and the sunlight absorbed plays a minority role in determining the overall temperature of the earth's atmosphere, the conclusion would be weakened. D effectively blocks this possibility by saying that the atmosphere derives most of its heat from sunlight.

Thank you!!

Take the LSAT in Fordham law vs New York law vs Pace?

If anyone is interested, let's make a group.

hm

Hey gang!

When I took the November LSAT, I bubbled all of my answers at once, at the very end when 5 minutes was called. I'm trying out a new bubbling method. I'm liking giving myself micro breaks now, and bubbling as I go along. My issue is with questions I've circled---skipped questions that I don't want to turn back to until the very end. Typically I circle them on the test booklet, but now with the bubbling method, I'd like to bubble the other answers in and leave that one blank. My fear is that I'll forget that blank space later on. Can I circle or dash or mark in some way the number for that question on the actual scantron? Does anybody do this? Thanks for any input!

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Help! I thought "no A are B" equals "~B are A"

Hi everyone. I have always thought NA questions are like inference questions in that their right answer will be true if the conclusion is true. And I thought the SA question types are the ones that the correct answer will bridge the broken conditional chains.

But over and over, from JY and others, I hear the comment that goes 'answer choice X is correct because it fills the gap between the premise and the conclusion" in the NA question expls..

Okay. So I guess that NA are sort of like SA, but NA right answers are minimum requirement while SA right answers are 100% air tight reason?

I have always thought NA are similar to inference. But now I'm just confused.... Is there a simple way to clearly distinguish NA from SA? HELP!