Proctors: There was a main proctor who spoke, and multiple volunteers to make signing in, handing out and handing in materials go very smooth.

Facilities: The college is nice. It's huge and modern. We had some issues with people getting in without a key card, however, so those of us who found a way in early had to keep opening the doors for everyone else coming to test, until security showed up and fixed the door. Bathrooms were just down from the testing room, and there was some seating while we waited (although not enough once everyone arrived).

What kind of room: It's a very large classroom or presentation room with tables set end to end in rows. Sound didn't echo, so that was nice. It was extremely quiet.

How many in the room: 100+

Desks: They were tables set up end to end in long rows. The seats were like padded folding chairs and fairly comfortable. There were number placeholders, and you went to your randomly assigned seat based on what number you received.

Left-handed accommodation: Yes. They moved left handed testers to accommodate them.

Noise levels: Super quiet.

Parking: There was free parking available on site.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: I got there very early, so I'll just say what the actual testing experience seemed to take. About 5 ½ hours.

Irregularities or mishaps: They let some people in with hoodies, which I thought was not allowed? A student had to leave (emergency?), but then tried to come back after we had started filling out the paperwork portion. They handled it appropriately and did not let him come back in, as once you leave like that, you aren't allowed back. I think some of the volunteers walked the aisles at some point, so that was a little weird.

Other comments: Overall, it was great conditions for testing. Very quiet, comfortable enough, and there was enough room. Once we were all seated and settled, we were allowed to space out or move if there were empty spaces in our rows. That helped significantly.

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: June 2018

On average, how long does a strong LR student spend reading the stimulus and question stem before looking at the answer choices? In general I spend more than a minute on a question before I get to the AC's... (i'm new to timed LR)

I ran out of time for a few questions which is making is suspect so.

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I have a question relating to an experience I'm sure many of you have experienced. I started PT'ing in the late 30's and 40's and my score increasingly went up, starting from mid-160's to a high of 170. Then I decided to take PT 78 and my score dropped to a 163. I made the jump because I'm taking the exam in July and wanted to do fresher PTs.

For those of you whose scores dropped from PTs in the 40's to those in the 70's, what did you notice were the patterns that made the questions more difficult, and what strategies did you use to get your scores back up?

Does anyone know how soon PT 84 (June 2018) will be available on 7sage?

I'm a full time high school teacher and graduate student. I'm taking the July LSAT because the other dates just really aren't plausible for me, so I either kill it on July 23 or I don't. I'm exhausted. My first practice test was my highest score (158) and the more I study, the worse I do on PTs. I've been studying as best I can since April but after a day of teaching, I'm depleted and can barely keep my eyes open for the drive home, let alone an entire PT (and yes, I have studied in the morning prior to work but the July test is proctored at 12:30, so I need to make sure my brain works in the afternoon). I know I have it in me to do better, and I have the week prior to the test off, so I'm hoping to gain some energy and study time back then. But I'll be 30 by the time I apply to law school and question if I have the same stamina as undergraduates applying at the same time. My questions for this community, are:

Thank you in advance!

Does anybody know when the scores for the international June 2018 paper (Asia) will be out?

Hi All,

Having a bit of trouble getting my head around this question. Originally chose B, but correct answer is C. Had a bit of a crack at it, anyone please elaborate or correct me on my thinking!

Basically, the argument is assuming what is true of the stats for the sample is true when the test is used for the general public. However, the argument does not provide any information/we do not have any way of confirming whether this is correct when applied to the general public, hence its flaw is '(C) fails to take into account what proportion of the population have used cocaine'.

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hey all,

so i hear a lot of ppl say the benefits of REDOING practice tests. Given that one still has like 20-30 fresh PT's and a limited amount of study, how does one balance between doing PT retakes and doing new practice tests? Or should you just not do any PT retakes and just wait till you finish all your fresh PTs?

This is leads to my second question. I've heard a lot of good things about confidence drills. How often should you do confidence drills? Once a week? Twice a week? Are confidence drills just 1 LR section of extremely reckless and fast -- or do you do multiple sections of confidence drills back to back? Do ppl do confidence drills in RC?

Thanks!

Is "As" in the LR stimulus - I think it's a premise indicator, correct; similar to because (synonym)?

Hi all:

My current average for an LR section is -8, BR -4. Is there anything in particular you've done/would advise for being stuck here? Specifically, should I try going through the LR portion of the CC again? I've thoroughly gone through it once, and skimmed through it a second time right before I started drilling Q types. Personally, I don't think fundamentals is my issue because when I'm BRing/reviewing questions I answered incorrectly, it makes sense to me where I went wrong. Just wishing I could catch those while answering the first/second time. Tips greatly appreciated!

Thank YOU in advance.

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Hey guys,

I'm looking for the help about weakening questions, this type of questions really makes me frustrated. I could find the premises and conclusions, but I'm confused about supports between them. And every time I do this type of questions, the AC often sway me away. Are there any methods to practice these questions or any advice? I'll really appreciate for that.

How is understanding the logic behind why answer choices are right or wrong regarding a specific LR question going to help me on the next test? I'm not criticizing the process, I'm just trying to find out how to minimize mistakes for future exams, hence get better. Is this process subconsciously training my mind to think about these questions, and thereby developing my LSAT skills, or am I supposed to be picking up conscious strategies for future questions? For those of you who employed the BR process to a solid score, did you just passively begin to get better the more and more you blind reviewed your tests over time, or did you consciously cultivate specific strategies for particular types of problems?

Hello All,

I recently just finished my first preparation test yesterday evening. Now I am preparing to do the blind review method on the questions. However, I have a question concerning the practical framework of this review. I would like to know how an individual will be able to measure their "raw" score (the initial score after completing the preparation exam), if the blind review method recommends for an individual to avoid scoring the test until the end of the review? I want to make sure that I am correctly measuring my improvement going forward. So if anyone could help me understand this process more clearly, I would greatly appreciate it.

I just started learning them and they're the first type of question that has completely thrown me off... Any tips?

Does anyone else feel like RC are just like extended LR questions? I've been using the same techniques for RC as I did for LR and it seems to be working out really well. I find it helpful to approach questions this way.

Taking the test in September :) and I would love to start or join an LSAT study group!

Can anyone please help explain how to get to the correct AC. I have pinpointed that I am having difficulty with questions of this type. I tried to diagram but got confused AGAIN! Can anyone please explain how to properly diagram this in order to arrive at the correct AC? Thanks

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I’m beginning to think that law school is not for me and I will never be able to reach my goal of a 170.

I work full time so I cannot dedicate a huge amount of time to studying during the week. However, I began learning the test material last July but have only switched to using 7Sage this January. Initially I was just using it as a supplement to my study material from another company but soon realized that 7Sage is superior and fits my style of learning a lot better. So I have been using it exclusively ever since. I have to be honest that I skipped sections of the CC (certain question types and LG) because I have taken a full length LSAT course and have done a decent amount of drills before switching to 7Sage.

I took a five section test (from more recent years) this past Saturday and scored the same as when I did in January. -2 LG, -10 RC, and -17 LR. I have narrowed RC to -4 to -6 and LR to -7 to -10 on PTs 35-45 before. Even though I’m not sure what happened but I don’t think this is an anomaly because I have had similar disastrous performance on the more recent PTs. How can the PTs be this different?

What should I do? I don’t even know what to focus on anymore. I refuse to believe that I have hit my own ceiling, but have I? All the comfort and confidence I built up from previous PTs are all of a sudden go.

I do a mixture of timed and untimed sections, primarily LRs and RCs throughout the week, along with additional drills from CC if necessary; and a full length PT on the weekend. I take my time to BR and watch video explanations. What am I doing wrong? How is it possible that I have not made significant progress since January? Please help me. I feel disappointed and mostly, so lost. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

hey all,

i was just wondering if everyone else also felt the the toughness of this test.

for me, it takes approximately 15 hours to complete 1 prep test cycle.

This consists of: 3 hours to take the test, 4 hours to blind review the entire test, 4 hours to check answers and review the test (watch video explanations, etc), and then 3 hours to watch my video footage of me taking this test.

Man, it's a ton of work -- just for one PT. And then I try to improve my weaknesses and then rinse and repeat.

So if I were to do 30 PT's, then this would take me 30 * 15 hours = 450 hours.

Man this is tough. I was wondering if others felt the same way .. or if anyone had any advice/suggestions/comments, etc. Thanks!

I've also heard from individuals like @"Cant Get Right" that in the end they were performing at a rate where they didn't even have to blind review anymore (they just did the blind review during within the time allotted of the test).

How long did it take to get to that point where you could feasibly do a test and completely review it in just 1 day? (currently, it takes me approximately 2-3 days to fully review a test).

I'm trying to figure out whether I should register for an LSAT date, but also trying to see if I can reach my goal score within that target period. I'm currently BR'ing at about my target score (mid 170s), but I just don't know if I can get my target score to my BR score by like July for example.

I've done all PT's as drills from 19-40, so I have 50-80 to do as full PT's, and I'm trying to create a PT schedule to aim to do all of them. Should I do aim to all 30 of those PT's? Currently it takes me like 3-4 days to complete a PT cycle... I really want though to be able to do more PT's and to get faster at this PT cycle (eventually bringing it to like 1-2 days to complete a PT cycle) and to finally just take this test (I've been studying for about a year). How long does it take to get to that point?

Sorry fo the rambling thoughts. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated! thanks! :) you guys are the best 7sage!

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I thought B was correct because the conclusion is that general reductions need to be taken when it comes to the pace of bringing the marketplaces new drugs being tested. I figured that since the social impact of antihistamine was far from clear than that means that it wasn't understood which then also lead me to believe that maybe there needs to be a reduction of the pace when it comes to drugs being tested because they are not clearly being understood which is what lead me to answer choice B. I see how B could be wrong when it comes to the wording of some. How is A correct though?

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Should you aim to do every single PT in the past 10 years? (From PT's 50-80?)

How do you know when you're ready to take this test?

Or another question, how do you know when you're ready to REGISTER to take this test?

I really want to register for like the September test date, but I just don't know if I'll ACTUALLY be ready by then.

Currently BR score is in mid 170s, timed scores 160s fluctuating a lot. I've drilled all PT's from 19-40 and have completed PT's 40-50.

I am hoping to try to do all PT's from 50-80 these next few weeks, but it's a lot of material and I don't know if I can cover all of it.

Any advice, suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!