Seeking input and advice. Yes, I know I am starting early. My ultimate goal is to get into a T14 JD/Master of Public Policy dual degree program, work in government influencing legislation, strong interest in anti-corruption/ethics, and run for public office later.

I have been accepted into Clemson's honors college, Cornell and Furman. Clemson and Furman are very close in total cost for me (I won a large scholarship at Furman.) For those who do not know Furman, it is a small LAC with about 2,800 undergraduates. My parents say I would be a "big fish" at Furman, meaning it would be less competitive than the other two, probably easier to secure leadership positions, very strong access to professors, less stress, and they have a mock trial team (which I have enjoyed being a part of throughout HS.) I am concerned that Furman is not as well known when it comes time to apply to law schools. With the honors college at Clemson, it comes with some perks, more competitive for leadership roles, they have a good career services, and strong alumni. Much bigger enrollment, very hard to get into their honors college, they work with students who want to go for fellowships. Clemson doesn't have a mock trial team but they have a debate team and a "pre-law society." Cornell is obviously the Ivy, research opportunities, and alumni that comes with it. Worried about being able to achieve the super high GPA that is needed to get into a top law school if I go somewhere like Cornell where it is super competitive.

So I know for sure that I would like to study philosophy as one of my majors, particularly focusing on moral and political philosophy. (At Clemson they have it with a "Law, Liberty, and Justice emphasis." I was also thinking about majoring in Economics to understand how the economy works and to assist in the future for influencing economic policy. However, I read comments from an Economics major at Cornell said not to waste your time with it because the economics degree there is all theoretical and not enough math. Then I see someone saying that philosophy is more logic and reasoning and it is good to have more writing skills by taking political science or history. I am super strong in history and have loved it since third grade, and I am also very interested in political science. At Furman, an upperclassman told me to definitely get a second major in political science because there is some overlap with the philosophy degree where you don't need a lot of extra courses.

Anyways, would love your input. My parents are the analytical type (CPA and Computer Programming) and don't know anything about law school other than what we've been trying to research on-line. Thanks so much!

I've gone through a lot of the CC, but there's a lot that I've skipped. I'm not -0 in any sections, but I understand the main concepts and am in more need of the hands on practice. For instance, I've skipped a lot of the videos about setting up logic games. I understand the basic concepts behind setting them up, it's just not 100% intuitive yet. I still mess up a ton, and I'm still fool proofing the early tests. At this point, do you think it's appropriate to keep fool proofing and doing blind reviews, or should I ensure that I throughly go through the parts of the CC that I haven't already? I'm taking the June LSAT.

With no time constraints or with BR, I'm

-4/5 RC

-1/2 LG

-3 LR

-3 LR

When did you switch from CC to pure PT and BR?

Hey Guys,

Would really love some feedback on my predicament at the moment.

I've been studying for the LSAT for about a year, and took the February 2018 exam. After PT'ing in the low-mid 160's I was stuck with a 157..... (bombed LG... my best section).

Fortunately for me I'm a URM with a good gpa, and was accepted at GW with some money (waitlisted at Emory and WUSTL), however I feel I'm leaving points on the table, and the chance to attend a better school..

If I were to retake I would yet again have to delay law school by another year. Anybody have any advice to give on my situation? Would really appreciate it.

I'm a music student and law school hopeful (obviously). I decided to check out admissions records for music majors on Law School Numbers today, and have to say it was pretty discouraging. Maybe the data isn't really representative because there really weren't a whole lot of search results, but it seems like those I found (particularly for higher scorers) really underperformed their numbers.

Of course I don't know anything about these people besides their numbers but it definitely has me a bit worried that even with a great LSAT score I won't be that competitive for T14 schools. Anyone else out there coming from music or other fine arts fields and have thoughts or experience to share?

Hey 7Sage,

We put together a nice new tool that combines 2019 USNWR rankings with the latest available medians: https://classic.7sage.com/admissions/top-law-school-admissions/

Scroll down for even more fun.

If you click on every single dot in that scatterplot, your decisions might be in your inbox by the time you're done.

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Does anyone else have this problem? When I do a section or a problem timed I get completely flustered because my mind is constantly under pressure and wondering if I'm taking too long. The second I decide to do the same section untimed, I notice I do the questions faster and get them all right. I'm sure others have encountered this. What did you do to get past the time stress?

My reach school is WUSTL - I have a friend who is a 1L there and had the opportunity to have lunch with a professor and sit in a class. I'm smitten.

I scored a 161 on the February LSAT. I'm an older student so there's a decade gap in my undergrad. My most recent GPA is 3.75 (one full time semester) but my overall GPA is 2.9 because of my early (under)performance.

My personal statement was about an experience which inspired me to pursue law school. I have a strong work history and I've spent the past couple years working at a nonprofit which offers pro bono legal services.

So far I've been accepted to Mizzou w a 60k scholarship. If WUSTL is your reach/dream school , I'd like to hear your story.

I was wondering if anyone time their LG problem sets right from the start. I have encountered a problem with In-Out games. I cant seem to get any inference, or I am making too much that it eats away the time. I have been timing myself with every problem through the course just to get a baseline of how long I do these problems. averaging about 10-12 mins which is pretty long. Although I do make sure to check the other answer choices even if I circled the correct one. I am just getting really discouraged.

The way JY teaches LG is to make the inferences up-front to save time answering questions. I used to just brute force my way in each question ( I know thats not a smart thing to do). So I am changing the way I approach the problem.

My question is, I know JY has a "Fool-Proof technique" video for LG mastery. Has anyone tried this and gotten big improvements? What were your techniques? Do you do the inferences per rule? or Do you read all the rule then start the inferences? Its just that, time-wise I know memorizing inferences for a specific game would reduce it after n-th time of doing the same game. But is this assuming that LSAT will make the same game format and thus, it would feel like "Ive seen this before " therefore "Ill make the same inferences (slightly tweaked) as JY did?

Is this a PSA or SA? Or is it a principle question?

"Which one of the following principles most helps to justify the mathematics teacher's argument?"

Hope everyone’s admissions or study cycle is going well. I just wanted to get a bit of feedback on mine—which has been touch and go thus far. I’m just wondering if I have good reason to worry about the outcome of this cycle.

First thing that I’ll say is that I’ve applied to 14 schools and have heard back from five of them thus far: sitting at a 2-2-1 record. Two acceptances (UT, Northwestern), two waitlists (Duke (priority reserve), and Berkeley), and most recently one rejection (Harvard, 2 Weeks after JS1). Nothing from any other school.—I also should note that I applied very late in this cycle (this could be a non-negligible factor).

I also might throw in a little about my desired career path: clerking, to a stint in big Law (5-7 years), then either to PI or academia (with a strong preference for the latter). There are a lot of reasons for these particular goals but that would detract you for too long and besides, I’m always open-minded about evolving opportunities and so grant that these might well change.

In any case, with the Harvard rejection, I’ve gotten a little more concerned about my cycle. Ever more concerned, in fact, because sifting through the available data on URMs (I’m AA) and Harvard admissions data my rejection appears to be historic. Now this is not “historic” in some highfalutin sense—this is, after all one admissions decision in a sea of thousands and thousands—but just in the sense that given the data, I have the infamous role of being the most egregious underachiever as far as numbers are concerned (i.e., given the data, my numbers would have predicted a strong chance of admission to Harvard and a stronger chance of no rejection). As far as softs are concerned, I haven’t medaled in the olympics but have “disadvantage” softs (first gen, recovered from a major brain injury) plus other non-traditional softs (PhD). Given all of this, Harvard was probably my best shot at a T-3 acceptance (I basically blanketed the top 16 schools besides Cornell and Georgetown).

So, finally, my two questions are these: should I be worried about the complexion of the rest of my cycle given my goals? How likely is it that some facet of my application (or me!) doomed my chances—a facet that I’m not seeing (because I can’t access the neccesary vantage point to assess myself as others do)?

I made the decision (mistake?) of doing all of my applications without much help/feedback, and wonder if this fact (stupidity?) coupled with the Harvard rejection supports an affirmative answer to my second question. While I cannot do anything about it for this cycle, I favor truth over truthiness so I can mentally prepare myself for what is (soon) to come. In that sense, your thoughts would prove helpful.

Any and all feedback is appreciated and I thank y’all in advance!

I just got an email about UVAs decision a few minutes ago. I know this means it’s probably a rejection. I’m scared to open it

I applied to NYU pretty close to their deadline and sent an update re my Feb. Score. I literally haven't heard a peep out of them since the confirmation email that you receive right after sending in the application. To top it off, I went to their website today and clicked on the "status check" link and got an error message. I only tried it a couple of times this morning so maybe it's crashing due to checks but has anyone else had this issue? I know I submitted close to their deadline, but that was a while ago and I haven't even gotten an email saying my application is "complete", which I have already gotten from all other schools.

What is this flaw called:

"Takes for granted that a hypothesis has not proven to be true is proof that it is false"

Is there a name for this?

I wanted to get the community's concensus on this question.

[A] after an intense BR is wrong, i beleive, bc the proponents of papercrete dont ever claim that its promising for small scale projects. They just beleive its promising for large builidings. Thoughts?

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Has anyone heard anything from any of their schools today?

I'm scheduled to take the June test right now... 10 days after the school year lets out. (I'm a teacher).

I've only been studying for about a month now. My goal is a 170, and right now I'm inconsistently hitting the high 160s with my initial diagnostic in the 150s. I have 10 weeks and 5 days left, and I have a schedule to study 6 days a week.

I thought I had a conflict with the July test, but it turns out I don't. Should I pay the 100 dollar rescheduling fee and take the extra 5 weeks of studying? Those five weeks I'll be out of work too. So in reality, I'd probably be doubling the amount of study time I have left.

What do y'all think?

Like most of us, my applications are all submitted and complete or under review. I have maybe 2-3 schools that I am still waiting on and would definitely go to. Is it too late to send a "Why X" essay? Not sure how these are done. Is it weird to send one when you app is possibly in the middle of being reviewed? Is it bad? If I do send one, I'll be emailing it in. I'm really nervous about this cycle. I don't have the best numbers and just got rejected at UVA. It wasn't my top choice by any means but I am desperate right now and lots of my apps are still pending.

I'm in at UChicago and I couldn't be happier. Thank you so much to 7Sage, both to the curriculum that helped me do well on the LSAT and the AMAZING community that has given me advice, helped me through struggles, and generally kept me sane through this whole process.

:smile: Thank you all!

Hello all,

My passion lies in international law/international public law. During my undergrad I was quite involved in politics and foreign relations taking a special interest in the military, international politics, and human rights. My dream would be to become a player in the international arena, either advising political parties, national defence, and/or strategy/homeland security. Additionally, I have always had a passion for all things military (my biggest regret thus far has been not joining). Although my first hurdle to jump is the LSAT, I would like to general direction to think about as I work towards my end goal. Would anyone have any advice about how to come about this? Or becoming a JAG officer? Full disclosure: I am Canadian, and I do have a husband and dogs - I would have to consider them in all this.

Thanks :)

One of the professors that I was planning to ask for a letter of recommendation told me that she was moving to the other side of the country at the end of this school year. Could I ask her for a letter of recommendation now and just let the letter sit in my CAS until I need it when I apply next cycle?

I am a current junior, planning to apply during next year's cycle (October, 2018). I think I saw online that letters of recommendation are valid for up to five years, but I was just worried that the date difference between when I receive the letter and when I use it may affect my applications somehow.

Does anyone have any advice or insight on my situation? Thank you in advance!

Good evening,

My English 1101 teacher from 2015 made a big impact on my academic career. In the past, he was written the strongest letters of recommendation for me among my professors. My only concern about getting him to write my Law School LOR is the class level he taught me. Would admissions prefer to see a letter from a more recent class you took and higher course than Eng 1101? I know he will write the best letter, but is he the right fit? He received his Ph.D. from Emory in English.

Thank you in advance!

For those of you who have tried Headspace and subscribed to the premium version, is it worth it? Also, has it helped you with relieving stress and enhancing focus/concentration? Has it influenced your LSAT studies in any way?

If you don't use Headspace to relax, what other strategies or hobbies do you use to de-stress?

For some reason during the introduction videos, I kept getting these questions wrong. I am quite confused and at this point am very frustrated with myself. So if anyone has any tips or some type of guidance that helped them solve these type of questions let me know.

Hi 7Sages,

I am facing a bit difficulty in dealing with the ACs of the MSS type of questions.

I want to ask about the best way to deal with these ACs.

When you go through each of the ACs, what do you try to do just after reading it?

Do you try to find reasons as to why that AC might be wrong ie Like trying to find a flaw which might occur here? Finding a subtle flaw is bit of a problem on my part. I am lacking in that respect.

Or Do you try to support the AC and try to find possible reasons how the AC can be the conclusion supported by the premises given in the question?

Thanks and Regards :)