I was visiting Georgetown when I found out I got wait-listed to Harvard.

Although it's not a yes (and I am still in a limbo), I am elated to be even considered by Harvard. I wanted to thank the 7sage community for being so supportive and incredibly kind throughout this long journey. 7Sage helped me increase my 158 (September) into a 168 (December). I wouldn't have applied to Harvard had it not been for my increase - still a shot in the dark. But here we are, in D.C., paranoid that I clicked the wrong button for my confirmation to remain on HLS' waitlist.

I hope to ply through this. And I think I will do that by re-studying for the June lsats to increase my chances. But I wanted to take this time to really thank you all for being the community that I know.

Seriously, thank you guys.

"Let me pray for the best without the worry of a lost that isn't mine"

If the stimulus is formal logic and does not mention the word "should" and an AC is almost identical but uses the word "should" [i.e. "A" should be exercised only to "B" or to "C"] is this enough to disqualify it?

IMO it should be enough bc if the AC continues saying we have "A" and its not "B" therefore conclude = "C" this is not 100% bc maybe the person is not doing what he "should" do

Is my line of reasoning false?

I know there are so many threads on how to squash RC on here. But I really feel like I'm a rare case of someone who sucks harder than average at RC. Like oh my god. Every PT I take, I go -0-3 on each section. Then RC rolls around and even during BR, I get like -10+. Like what the hell??? Please someone lol give me a hand. Teach me your ways. How do I own RC instead of RC owning me?!?!?!?! It's literally the only thing stopping me from hitting 175+

I think this is the first question I've come across that I truly don't understand. I don't think I'm getting what the "obvious alternative" is. Not sending police officers? Dying here, plz help.

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I don't know what to do! I sent it with my waitlist acceptance. They didn't even mention that I included one in the reply email? Should I harass them about it?

I've spoken with so many attorneys and they all have said this to me: It doesn't matter what law school you attend. Of course there are law schools out there that may give you an easier access to a certain industry as well as certain firms but it does not guarantee any success in the future. No one cares what school you attended after you pass the Bar. The goal of attending and then graduating law school is passing the Bar and achieving profitability. Hence, you're out of your mind if you take out a loan to go to Harvard instead of taking that 75% grant from Hofstra. I've seen "T-14 or bust". Whoever is giving you that advice you should ignore from now on. These attorneys I've spoken with and have relationships with graduated from Brooklyn, NYLS, Cooley, New England Law, and a few other T3-T4 schools. All are at least 6-digit annual earners, some are multi-millionaires from Cooley and New England Law, and other T3-T4 schools and are mid-age. Someone I know well graduated from UMass Andover Law and if you're aware of that school, you'll know that its NOT ABA-accredited. She paid less than $20K a year in tuition and now has her own firm with a group of associates...multi-millionaire. Follow the money, achieve that profitability!! If you get a huge grant, don't be a schmuck and say "oh it's T4 and the school's graduates go to more mid-size firms than big-law firms, so f*ck that". Good luck to everyone on their LSAT prep; I hope you crush it and get as much money in grants as possible.

I was planning to take the lsat in December, knew I wasn't ready, and postponed until February. I'm content with my score but I didn't get a "get into any school you want regardless of when you apply" type school, you feel me? When I was preparing for the LSAT people loved giving me "law school" advice but not once did I hear about how rigorous the application process would be. Don't get me wrong, I didn't think it'd be a cakewalk, but it seems like every time I think I can send my application in there's some new information I need to add, overlooked, or just didn't know regarding law school. When planning for the lsat, I had a mental calendar: first focus on the lsat, then focus on schools/applications. Only problem is that by postponing my applications and school searches I got WAY behind and have missed deadlines. On top of that, my undergrad university didn't actually graduate me until December, waiting for my transcript to get finalized, and now waiting on it to be reviewed and approved by lsac. My letters of recommendation came in later than expected but I didn't realize that I myself couldn't submit them. I'm freaking out guys! I don't usually post so I guess everything is just spewing out at once, sry. I really want to enroll this fall but I'm not sure what else to expect. On my applications (from my understanding) it looks like I can submit them without having my LOR and Transcripts processed but that doesn't seem right. If I send in my app now will they just receive the additional information once processed or will/should I just wait? Looking for a light at the end of this tunnel here!

Hey Guys! I have a quick question. I emailed UGA my LOCI about a week ago and I have not received a reply email. Is that normal? I don't want to call and bother them if that is standard protocol. Thank you so much!

Hi guys

After fool proofing LG some time, I found out that I tend to make some small but potential fatal mistakes during game setup under timed drilling.

For example, I will misread "A immediately before B" as " A immediately before or after B" because I was thinking some similar games associated with the later rule while I was writing down the former rules.

It's really annoying and a bit frustrating to lose points on easy games. On the contrary, I tend to have a higher accurate rate on many of harder games during timed drilling.

I am trying to find ways to get rid of this tendency. Anyone has similar experience ？

Thanks

I'm working through the logic games curriculum right now, and one of the example in/out games is the bird watcher game from the December 2000 preptest (#33). I had to sit back for a moment because I vividly remember struggling with it a few months ago. So that got me thinking: what LSAT questions, games, and passages haunt you to this day? Why? Here is my list so far:

-the aforementioned bird watching game

-the rattlesnake question

-the carpet market share question

(If you're not familiar with any of the content mentioned, I would encourage you not to look it up! You wouldn't want to spoil the best questions for yourself, now would you?)

My personal statement covers a situation in my background that has influenced my decision to attend law school. Should I write a diversity statement on this as well even if it’s already covered in my personal statement? Has anyone dealt with this?

This is not throwing shade at any one, but since there are multiple threads about "I talked with a successful lawyer" and they said "X". Here is a fun exercise in sampling error.

What do the following actors all have in common?

Adam Driver

Rob Riggle

George C. Scott

Bea Arthur

Steve McQueen

Drew Carey

Montel Williams

Gene Hackman

Harvey Keitel

Answer: They all served in the US Marine Corps

Should every aspiring actor join the Marine Corps prior to going to their first casting call?

FWIW, I'm still waiting on my agent to call with a lead role.

Any suggestions on LR and RC part?

From recent PTs ( from 57-65) I usually get -2 - -4 LR per section and my RC varies from -8 - -2 (average -6.6 including older PTs)

I hope I can find a way to improve those two sections to compensate my LG sections (I am foolproofing LG right now since it is my weakest part, have a -8.5 on average)

Cheers

Question: I'm curious if people have opinions/advice regarding whether attending a lower-ranked law school would be a bad idea (e.g. would significantly hinder my long-term career goals), considering that I don't have an interest in BigLaw and plan to practice in the Midwest market.

Background: I graduated two years ago with my undergrad and am working full-time as a paralegal at a boutique law firm that specializes in employment immigration. I live in the Twin Cities (Minneapolis/St. Paul), and plan to stay and pursue my law career here. I have no interest in being a "big, fancy lawyer" - I don't want to work 80 hours a week and live under a constant cloud of stress. I want to be successful and proud of my career, but to achieve that, I don't feel the need to do a federal clerkship or work at a top firm even in the Twin Cities. I'm not interested in litigation and prefer administrative law; I have done internships in public interest law and have discovered that it is not for me. The attorneys I work for went to local schools in the Midwest, and they have their own firm, make a very good living, and have high standing in the community. My ideal goal is to go to law school part-time while working full-time (or close to full-time) at my current position. I think it is a good possibility that the firm I am currently at would hire me on as an attorney after I graduate, or at least would help me network and find a position.

I am currently looking at applying to Mitchell Hamline School of Law. With my GPA and LSAT scores, I am fairly certain I could get a full-ride or very close to it. Nationally, the school is ranked very low, but it is well-known and respected in the Twin Cities. They have a part-time program I could attend that would allow me to continue working. However, I believe I could get into the University of Minnesota - a much higher ranked institution - but attending part-time isn't an option, and I doubt I would get close to a full ride.

Conclusion: Basically I'm looking for any comments on the importance/necessity of attending a top-tier school if I have more moderate career goals. Thank you!

What do you guys think of the new USNWR rankings?

I was thrilled to see Berkeley jump up from #12 to #9 since it's one of my top choices. But I wonder if it'll keep climbing or drop back down next year? And I also wonder how much the rankings will influence employment outcomes, if at all. Thoughts, feelings, insights?

I'm sure this is the umpteenth time a post like this has showed up, but I would appreciate your perspectives.

I've been studying myself into the ground for the LSAT and I don't want this to preclude me from getting into my dream schools.

I just got an email stating that I was wait listed...in the top school of my choice. I'm extremely ecstatic, but I also do not know how to get my self off the wait list, if it's possible.

The school said that the wait list is unranked...which I'm assuming means that I'm in a pool of applicants that are very similar to me? I'm just glad I'm not rejected, but I don't know where else to go at this point.

This is what the email states:

"we keep an unranked wait list and we will monitor commitments made by our admitted students regularly in the coming months so that you may be informed at the earliest possible time of any offers that we are able to extend to those on our wait list. "

They made me fill out a form that stated I was still interested, but I'm not sure if I need to do an LOCI. What else can I do, should I e-mail them and ask if I should take the June LSAT to improve my score, or if I go visit the law school, is there anyway that they can know...? Should I send an LOCI anyway...?

What are your guys' opinions?

What helps me remember the directions is telling myself: if we are doing something to the argument, it's UP. If we are using the argument to answer a question it's DOWN.

How are PRINCIPLE questions UP?

It seems to me it would be DOWN because we are using the argument to find the answer, and not adding anything to the argument. Or are we? Is it that the argument needs the "PRINCIPLE" explained to help it?

Am I thinking about LR support direction the wrong way?

HERE IS THE LIST:

Logical reasoning question stems grouped by support direction

UP:

Strengthen

Weaken

NA

SA

PSA

Principle

Resolve, Reconcile, explain

Resolve the paradox

DOWN:

Main point

Method of reasoning

Argument part

Flawed method of reasoning

Parallel method of reasoning

Parallel flawed method of reasoning

Point at issue

Must be true

Most strongly supported

Must be false

.

Hello everyone! Long time lurker and user of all the free aspects of 7sage, lol. I’m in a bit of a predicament.

I’ve received two acceptances thus far. One from my alma mater, Howard University, with a 35,000 yearly scholarship. And one from UC Berkeley, with no mention of any aid beyond their supplemental gift aid application which I’ve yet to fill out.

Berkeley came as a shock to me! As did Howard’s generous scholarship. I’ve heard a lot of varying opinions on the matter. Some say T-14 or bust, and some say the loans/debt just isn’t worth it.

I’m at a bit of a crossroads here and I’d love to hear some opinions on my situation in particular.

I can provide more info if necessary but let me know what you guys think! Thank you.

Hello,

I'm new to 7sage and fairly new to the LSATS. Last December I took the exam with minimal study and got a 150.

My goal is to get minimum 170 and planning on taking the June or September 2018 exam. I was wondering if I could get any advice regarding the study style and technique to achieve my goal. Should I just follow the study schedule set by 7sage? I do have the powerscore books.

If anybody could give some advices from experiences much would be appreciated. Also, I am very open to working with fellow test takers for extra motivation and aid!

Thank you!

Is it just me or does anyone else miss their routine for studying for the lsat? Waiting for the actual exam day was (to me) way better, and at least kept me busy! My schedule for studying for this thing kept my mind off the approaching date, and it always felt like time flew by. But now, with this next damn part. Waiting to hear from these schools? Naw, my patience is pretty much eliminated. I can't lie, I really do miss being stressed and way too studious. Anyone else?? :(

I tried registering for June 2018 LSAT and I live in Toronto. I have my mind set for June but I guess I am already too late (maybe the test center filled up already?) I was hoping to go to UofT for the test :( Now, I have to wait until September again and register early! I guess this is a good thing as I get to review more but I’m a little bit disappointed..

Sorry, guys. Thought I’d say it here. Maybe someone has the same thing as me? Any torontonians there? -P.

After 3 years of preparing for the LSAT, taking the LSAT twice, scoring 150 and 152, using the Powerscore books and also attending the live in person Powerscore course, Kaplan course, and reading the LSAT Trainer, I finally tried 7sage in December last year. I only bought the Starter and started on December 26, 2017. I increased to a 160 by the February 2018 LSAT. I have no doubts that if I had started the course earlier, or had waited until the June 2018 LSAT, I could have increased by even more.

I can't thank 7sage enough. First of all, it was SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than anything I'd tried. I spent about $2500 USD by the time I got to 7sage; I regret not starting with 7sage since I would have spent less than $200 USD.

The CC was amazing. Things were finally clicking for me! The discussion board here is so supportive. And the best of all - JY is HILARIOUS. I was actually enjoying myself learning this difficult test because the CC was so enjoyable.

I'm writing this review because I just got accepted to my top choice law school yesterday. I could not have done it without 7sage.

I almost quit this week from studying. I had a major personal change happen that left me unmotivated and distracted, fearing I couldn't get back into this studying regemine. I got so sick that I ended up in the emergency room. As a result, I was unable to study for a week.

I decided today was it, take a PT after a month of hardcore drilling and studying and, if my score didn't at least stay flat, I would need to reconsider how to find motivation or whether I should continue. I took PT 41 and ended up scoring significantly higher than I have before, at a 166. For this PT, each additional question answered correctly at this level equates to +1 on your score, up to 171. I went from a 158.5 PT average (from 3 PTs) pre-drilling, up to this actual score. I feel like I have hope I can tackle this.

I'm posting cause I need to make some more written commitments to myself that I can do this and will do this, as support helping me feel like I could outside of 7Sage is no longer available. Thanks for reading, if you do!