Hi fellow Sagers,

I'm currently in the final stretch preparing for the February LSAT. I have a quick question re: blind review. I've been doing it for the past 4 weeks, and rarely see an improvement (or significant increase) on my BR results. Sometimes it's actually lower! I feel like I almost look to find a way to pick an alternate answer, if I've tagged a Q for BR. Like it's triggering a part of my brain to second guess my original reasoning. Sometimes my BR is one or two points above or below my timed conditioned PT. For example, just PT-ed #71. Actual score: 165. BR: 166. Am I an outlier? Is this normal? Seems like everyone else scores way higher on their BR. To be clear, I'd be more than happy with anything in the 160s as these scores will fall in and above the medians for my schools of choice (Canada), so I'm not especially bothered by the scores nor am I aiming for the 170s (of course, a score up there would be a pleasant surprise, but I don't think it's realistic). Any feedback on this would be most welcomed.

Can someone please explain this flaw? Why would it matter if the election outcome was different if the majority party had not supported the bill?

There are some situations where JY takes a different approach to a rule for no ostensible reason other than the fact that the ordinary approach would result in some difficulty that is not clear except based on hindsight. But this does not help someone facing the game for the first time!

The primary example of this is how we approach an ordering rule that has "or but not both." The usual way appears to be to split the game based on that rule, because it creates a "binary cut." This makes a lot of sense and is helpful. JY recommends this approach in PT83 Game 2, PT52 game 4, PT51 Game 2, and I might be missing some others. He occasionally solves without the split but also endorses the split and goes over it in a different video - PT78 Game 3. But what is troubling for me is that there doesn't seem to be an explanation of why one would approach this type of rule without a split rather than with the split. Obviously it's good to be able to do it both ways, but how does one know when one approach would be more effective than the other?

This problem reveals itself in PT61 Game 2, where JY does NOT do a split and does not talk about why he didn't do the split, even when one would quite naturally think about doing the split if one has been following the other videos. It turns out that the split, if done, is slightly messy and is not as easy to do as it normally is -- several students in the comments to the video note that the game was a lot harder with the split. But when asked why he didn't do the split, JY comments "Yeah, the P messes things up… It was a while ago, but I think that was why I didn’t link them up." This is definitely a good reason why the split doesn't end up being too effective, but it seems to be something that is only evident AFTER trying to split. We don't get to see the actual process of trying to do the split, seeing that it's not good, and then approaching the game without the split. Instead, it seems as if one should naturally know not to do the split. That seems like a hindsight based strategy rather than one made actionable for a student! I don't see any reason up front why we would not at least explore the split first.

Another example is the different approaches in PT73 Game 1 and PT53 Game 2. In PT73 we have 2 "or but not both" rules that create 4 possibilities. JY says it's a no brainer to sketch out those possibilities. Yet in PT53 Game 2, JY does NOT do the split and in fact mentions that he tried to the split but it wasn't helpful, so is showing how to do it without the split. But there doesn't seem to be any clear reason why a student approaching PT53 the first time after having reviewed the explanation for PT73 and similar games would proceed by not doing the split! PT53 presents 4 possibilities in almost the exact same way as PT73. It's like JY's showing the best way to do the game based on hindsight rather than showing a consistent approach that student could take to know up front which way is the best way to do the particular game!

Any thoughts?

Hi all, I'm not through the CC yet (obviously). When learning logical indicators, I'm trying to reason my way through them, because I know I will forget rote memorization. I understand why all the translation rules apply so far, except for "until."

If you tell me to "add pennies to the jar until Bob tells you to stop," my brain translates that as "when/if Bob tells you to stop, stop adding pennies to the jar." I cannot see how this is logically wrong. Bob telling me to stop is sufficient for me to stop. And yet according to the translation rules, the correct translation is the converse--"if Bob doesn't tell you to stop, add pennies to the jar." Which of course also sounds true. Any help here?

And if there's a better place to post this, let me know. Wasn't sure about using this category.

Does anybody know if there is a specific timeline for this scholarship?

Does anyone have any advice about one last PT? I'm thinking of taking one or two more before the February 10 LSAT. However, part of me is afraid that I'll score badly on my last PT---despite doing fairly well on my others---and that it'll totally demoralize or shake my up for the real thing. At the same time, I know that if I score well, it'll send me into the Feb LSAT feeling confident and in the right mindset.

Anyone else had this problem/fear before their test? Please advise!

(Also, much thanks to this community---despite my worries, I feel WAY more confident than I would be otherwise a week out because of all of you!)

Hi all,

I'm scheduled to take the Feb 10 test and my score is not near where I want it to be. I am tempted to take the Feb test anyway just so I can see what it's like to take an official test and then retake it in June if I'm not satisfied with my score. Would it be counterproductive to take the exam in Feb knowing I won't do as well I want to or would it be best to postpone and take the exam in June instead?

By the way, I have been studying for a little over two months by using another company's prep books and I just recently signed up for 7Sage. I can tell 7Sage is far more superior and I wish I signed up sooner.

Apologies if someone has asked this already.

Thanks in advance!

Are there specific schools that look down on retakes more than others?

PT2.S2.Q11 LSAT 2 PREPTEST 2 Question 11 section 2

I don't get how this answer is "B."

The question is asking "Which following statements are consistent with biologist's claim, but not with politician's."

biologist claims: deforestation --> NO Koala

Politician claims: If save Koala --> stop deforestation (did I get that translation right?)

How is "B" consistent with Biologist's claim? I see how it's not consistent with politician's claim, which is part of the answer.

Is it that the Koala could still get extinct for another reason. If that's so, how do I get in the mind set to infer an answer like that?

PT2 S2 Q14

Type of question: WEAKEN

Correct me if I am wrong in any part of my explanation.

Premise(s)

Oct. 1929 suicides due to stock market crash Comparatively low, summer had higher suicide rate, while Stock market flourishing

Conclusion

Stock market crash Suicide wave in Oct. 1929 more legend than fact.

What I am looking for:

Answer A NO. We don’t need to know the reason of suicide.

Answer B NO. This strengthens conclusion.

Answer C YES. I was thrown off by language. I thought “preceding and following years” was talking about how suicides stayed above average for preceding and following years, which doesn’t answer why summer suicide rates were higher, and seemed a bit off topic. What this answer is saying is the average suicide rate of Oct and Nov was lower than stock market crash before and after 1929. So, it means stock market crash did indeed increase suicide rates. Weakens the conclusion.

Answer D NO. We don’t care about beginning of calendar year.

Answer E NO. Unnecessary information. Not the same as Oct and Nov? And, season has to do with it?

MISTAKE

I didn’t understand answer C. I picked E, and was not happy with it, but moved on.

Obviously no one only uses one resource for information about law school. 7Sage is a great resource and there are many others. I just want to warn 7Sagers of a potential issue with another LSAT/Law school website!

According to Reddit, TLS is undergoing a bit of drama and change. I don't really care about the drama, or know what is going on, but want to make sure people don't fall pray to misinformation. From what I've read there is a lot of bad information being passed around right now, so be careful!

It's a good reminder to always be careful what you read on the internet! Fact check, triple check, find multiple sources! This is good advice for anything!

Edit: more info I found,

https://www.reddit.com/r/LawSchool/comments/7uax5l/what_is_going_on_with_tlslawschoollife/

The question is as follows

Rock music is musically bankrupt and socially destructive but at least album covers of rock LPs from the 1960s and 1970s often featured innovative visual art.

But now since the success of digital music has alnost ended the production of LPs rock music has nothing going for it.

The question was to find necessary assumption.

The correct answer was

'Digital music is not distributed with accompanying innovative visual arts.'

Only rarely questions 1 to 10 took this much time to figure it out. In the end I did choose right answer but with great doubt. POE told me that this is probably the choice that had the slightest connection to stimulus.

But I cant quite understand how this is a necessary assumption.

If I understood it correctly it is reasonable to say that Digital music refers to digitally distributed music i.e itunes or what not.

If so why is it necessary to assume that all digital music is without innovative visual art?

I mean some genres of digital music can have innovative visual art and some might not have them . For instance hiphop albums are all digitally distributed with cool innovative arts while rock music does not have it.

For me the n.c must be something like Digital 'rock music' is not distributex with innovative visual arts.

Am I missing something here?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-75-section-1-question-03/

I'm curious as to how many of you 170+ scorers took your test while in school? My first real test was in December and I'm gearing up for February right now and let me tell you... Classes and LSAT Prep do not mix well!

I'm asking more out of curiosity than anything else.

Since a necessary assumption is something that must be true in order for the argument to succeed, does that mean that a necessary assumption question is the same as a MBT question? We the people need answers

Hello,

so I have a 3.28 and a 169...

USC rejected, UCLA waitlisted, and UC Irvine accepted with 90k, Loyola with 110k.

If UCLA rejects, I'm left with Uc Irvine as it is higher ranked than loyola...

Given I can make good grades and work hard (yada yada)...am I in a bad spot?

I dont have solid career goals right now but I know for sure that I dont want to graduate with 100k in debt with a 60k a year job IF that...

how likely is it that I go to UCI and crap out? Ive already waited a year and increased my LSAT by 10 points to get to where I am now and was extremely disappointed USC and UCLA didnt accept/waitlisted.

Thanks all

Hi there! I’m late to the application game and just submitted the first half of my apps. Only to realize... I sent an old draft of my resume (really dumb mistake, I know). Everything is up to date, but I wrote my present tense parts in third person. Throughout college, I was taught to use third person on resumes, but only recently learned that it’s not preferred. There’s also a minor formatting issue on that version (something is bullet pointed that should have been a subheader... but I re-read it like 12 times without noticing and considered making it a bullet point beforehand, anyway).

My question is: should I email an updated resume to those schools? I submitted to my biggest reach schools and my safe schools. Will they care about the third person thing? And if I do resubmit, should I do it today or wait a little bit (I literally just send the apps in last night)? I asked some people on Reddit, and they said I should be fine. But a dream school that I feel like I have a solid chance at got the bad resume, so I'm still a little nervous.

Thanks for the help!

June'18 Study Group | Blind Review PT 50 | Tuesday, Feb 6th | 7:30 pm EST

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Hey Guys!

Anybody have good idea for RC supplements? Sometimes I'll have a few minutes to study and I don't want to kill a section. I use them all for full length tests. I'd like to target RC directly without taking the whole test. Any supplement ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thx!

Can you someone please further explain why AC (C) is wrong? Please also let me know your thoughts on my explanations. Thank you!

P1: Public interest comprises many interests

P2: The broadcast media must serve all of them.

P3: Most TV viewers would prefer an action show to an opera.

P4: A constant stream of action shows on all channels is not in the public interest

C: The broadcast media should not have a constant stream of action shows on all channels because by doing so, it would not meet its obligations of serving the public interest (comprised of many interests).

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-48-section-1-question-06/

A ) If broadcasters look only to popularity, then broadcasters won’t satisfy their obligations of serving the public interest.

B ) Posed a hypothetical situation. We don’t know how many artistic and cultural shows are already being contrasted compared to other types of shows nor do we know if TV shows are being broadcasted in the right proportions to serve the public interst. Therefore, we don’t know if the public interest is being/not being met.

C ) The question didn’t ask to extrapolate beyond the information in the argument, but to logically complete the argument. AC (C) could be considered an inference from the information given, but not a conclusion that logically follows. The stimulus also discusses what broadcast media must do, not what television producers should do.

D ) Artistic quality is irrelevant and not discussed in the argument. Popularity doesn’t imply no artistic quality.

E ) “Only” is too strong and limiting of a word. Action shows could be replaced by opera or any other type of show and would not serve the public interest.

Hi 7sagers,

Is there a difference in the meaning of the statements below?

If you see the desk, you will choose to buy the desk.

If you see the desk, you will buy the desk.

*If the main clauses are written in the past tense, the sentences mean different things.

I chose to buy the desk (intended to buy it, unsure if one actually bought it) vs. I bought the desk (actually bought it)

However, written in the conditional+future tense, the sentences seem to imply the same thing. Is there a difference?

Thanks very much!

Hi everyone! I'm really liking these non-LSAT related posts. They're a fun way to take a break from the LSAT. I'm just curious what law schools you all have visited and which ones you liked and disliked and the reasons why. Were there any law schools that you visited that you thought you wanted to go to but visiting made you reconsider?

I have worked babysitting and served as personal assistant for 10-20 hrs a week all through college (in addition to another PT job for first 2 years).

Should/ how should I list this on my resume?

Thanks!

Hi all!

Happy studying! I am currently in the middle of submitting apps. I sent an application to Georgetown ED with only one LOR (they require one but accept up to three). My other recommenders just finished and sent it to LSAC. Once I assign the LORs, will Georgetown receive the new letters?

Thanks in advance!

Aloha everyone!

Please join me for a night of PT 83 RC at 7 p.m. EST on Thursday, February 1.

We will be applying 7Sage's RC strategies and techniques to the newest RC section on the market. I will also share some of the RC insights that I have picked up from taking every single RC section multiple times and from tutoring. At the end of the session, I will also answer any RC questions you might have.

Who is this session for?

This session is primarily for February test takers who want to reinforce their understanding of RC and see 7Sage's strategies in action. June test takers may also want to attend. However, you might also want to save PT 83 for later in your studies.

How do I prepare?

Please take PT 83 and BR it. Ultimate+ users can access this test here: https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/preptest-83/. Other users can purchase the test here: https://classic.7sage.com/addons/.

Please do not look at the correct answers. We want to think about the questions and really reason through them, which is best done when you don't know the correct answers.

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My name is Stephanie Gonzalez. I have been using the email address of stephgmeister[at]gmail.com since the beginning of time. However, this may seem adolescent and ridiculous because "meister" is not apart of my last name at all, it was just one of the options that wasn't taken. Also, this email works great with the space I have on the header of my resume. Does anyone advice against using this email address?