I am in the Some and Most Relationships category of the curriculum and I am finding myself a little confused about negation vs the contrapositive. One of the quizzes gives this example: "All non-water breathing mammals have limbs". The task states to: 1. Translate all English statements into Lawgic. 2. Negate each statement in Lawgic. 3. Translate each statement back into English. So my translation looks like this: NWBM --> L. Now I believe that this is correct but the next step is where my confusion begins. I recognize that All is a group 1 logical indicator so the task for that involves finding the contrapositive which would be: /L --> /NWBM. This is not negation which would be in the english translation: Some NWBM do not have L. So I believe that my confusion is coming from not understanding when I am supposed to apply a negation rather than a contrapositive to the original statement in an LR question.

Hi everybody.

I scored a 143 cold (done in June 2017) but I don't really consider it valid because I was sleeping through Reading Comp and barely taking the tests seriously. Regardless, my strongest sections were LR and LG. LR is somewhat understandable for me. I know for sure I am to do very well in February by looking at the questions in terms of category + strategy. Thought I'd shoot and ask you what are your strategies for LR questions. You can either state one question or how you approach the section as a whole. I'm devising a plan for each question and will test it out through drilling a million of them. My latest practice test (back in like October) was 158. I've been studying half-ass, but seeing as I wasted my $ not taking the December test. I chose to study very hard since October. I've been on it and with now 6 weeks left to the test, I'm on full throttle. Right now I'm perfecting my logic games, but I'd like to dedicate the next two weeks on drilling LG and LR and perfecting the strategies for this. Then I'll do 1 week for perfecting RC and spend the last 2-3 weeks doing practice tests, working on weaknesses and drilling.

170+ or go home.

Thank you!

Hello All!

I am seeking out anybody who has done more research than I have on schools and esp if you are a minority. So stats first my highest LSAT is a 159 and my LSAC GPA is a 3.23... I know this seems rather low compared to many of you guys on this site but I can't do more about it, hoping my community experience and diversity will help out a bit...

I'm first generation Mex-American and first generation college student interested and have worked in public interest law. I'm mostly applying to schools in CA but anything above the top 40 seems pretty out of reach for me with my low GPA and within the median LSAT score. Wondering if you guys know of any schools that are more open to diversity or resources to look this up?

Also for scholarships, I thought there would be a lot more external ones for minorities but I have only found 1 through the hispanic scholarship fund (for entering students at least). A lot of them seem to be targeted for current law students (1L, 2L) and the schools also offer merit ones right when you apply so you don't need a separate application. I have searched within my city and found a couple I am applying to but being minority isn't a requirement.

Any advice is welcome, thank you!

-Steph

Anyone willing to swap PS or just go hard on mine and make me cry?

Thanks

I am fool proofing the 1-35 bundle of games, and wondering if I should spend any time fool-proofing the so-called irrelevant games in the early tests.

JY mentions that they don't appear in modern tests.

I am currently studying for the February LSAT and feeling fairly confident about it, but I am planning to retake in June if I don't get a score I am happy with. I want to make sure I'm using the Preptests as wisely as possible. I was planning on using all of PT 52-81 between now and February, but I've realized that will leave me with only much older PTs (that I haven't seen before) to study from if I retake in June.

Should I reserve some of the newer PTs in case I end up retaking the test, or is it best to put everything into February and use all of them? Are the older PTs really that different from the recent ones?

Any and all input appreciated :)

Hey guys! So, I'm currently panicking...I'm waiting on a LOR from my boss (an attorney for whom I've worked for 3 years), and haven't submitted apps yet.

I'm applying to Emory, U of GA, Wake Forest, UNC, and U of FL.

I'm worried because my latest LSAT score was from September, and most people who wait this long just took the LSAT in December. However, I've been single-handedly planning my June wedding and working, and have been lacking motivation to work on essays.

Have I significantly damaged my chances of acceptance by waiting too long?

Wondering how long it took those who study and work full time to finish the full logic game bundle.

If you're accepted, waitlisted, or denied at a certain school and you apply to law schools again the next cycle, do law schools view the applicant in a bad-ish light? does it depend on whether you were accepted/rejected the previous cycle? I've read some anecdotal success stories on TLS and on 7sage forums, but I wanted to get more general facts on what it's like to reapply.

And I'd imagine that it's definitely recommended or required for you to send in a brand new personal statement?

Do you also need to send in new recommendation letters or can you reuse the ones you had sent in a previous cycle?

Maybe slightly off topic, but anyone have tips for screen sharing and drawing platforms for tablets for LG? Basically like JY's videos, but for screen sharing not recording videos.

If you are new to the site and left handed you might want to try diagraming on the right side of your paper. I realized that when I diagramed on the left side of my paper I was taking up valuable time when moving my hand out of the way to look at my diagram. I didn't realize how distracting it was to keep moving my hand. Every second counts.

Hi guys, for personal reasons, I wasn't completely sure whether I wanted to go to law school and ended up taking the LSAT late in the cycle (I got a 174, I'm an international student,so my superior - evaluated GPA doesn't really count for much is what I've heard).

I think the earliest I'll be able to get in my applications is by mid-January. It shouldn't be any later than that, but you never know with life haha.

I really want to go to a T3 school;Should I just wait until the next cycle?

Part of me just wants to apply this cycle because I don't feel that I can score higher on the LSAT nor do I think my essays are going to become substantially better than they are now. At the same time, I'm worried that if I apply this late in the cycle, I'll be rejected with no real way to submit a stronger application the next cycle.

Thanks in advance!

Hi guys. I just have a quick question regarding formulating a new study schedule. My last two takes (September and December 2017) didn't go so well due to circumstantial issues as I cancelled both times, and I'm planning to take this cycle off. That said, I'm looking for any suggestions regarding an updated study schedule.

Quick facts about my history:

By Section:

LG: I have already fool-proofed LG 1-35. (I'm thinking of fool-proofing "new" games from 36-50.) Average about -1/-2.

RC: Needs a lot of work -- not sure how to build in regimented schedule for working on RC. Would timed sections work? Should I work by passage type? I think I have easier passages down, so should I focus on 4 star/5 star passages?

LR: Pretty solid, but still needs work on getting the last few curve-breakers. I average about -8 total (-3/-4 per section).

Lastly, I still struggle with timing in LR and RC -- I don't run out per se, but just really stretch to finish. Any tips?

I would appreciate any insight, thank you!

I've been looking for it for like half an hour and can't find it... Anybody want to send me the link so I can bookmark it? Super helpful to be able to look at all the prompts on one page. Thanks, friends!

What's your pre-7Sage story?

I've been told that one should aim to master the fundamentals of the LSAT before moving on to PT's. At what point did you all decide that it was time to move on to PT's? Also, was this assessment correct, were you actually ready to start PTing? What are some things that you wish you had mastered/understood better before starting your PT phase?

Hi guys,

Can someone break this question down for me? It’s a PSA question, and I’ve watched every explanation I could on it and it’s still not clicking.

Would appreciate any insight on it.

Thanks!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-50-section-2-question-12/

Hi 7Sagers,

I am looking for some advice on how to plan things out for this year.

I started 7Sage CC in 2017 May and took September LSAT, cancelled the score,

and then got 160 on December LSAT.

Leading up to December test I have been scoring inconsistently between the range 163~168 on PTs

and I have used up almost all of the available PTs at this point.

I had set my goal as 168+ and I am not sure with my December score if I will

get what I want in February with just over a month left.

I know I can take the LSAT as many times as I want, so a part of me tells me to sit for

as many exams as possible to train myself;

but another part of me knows that all scores will be reported when I apply and I want to be prudent with the records I make..

I guess I am afraid that my score might go even further down and I will completely lose faith in myself.

I think the test day anxiety and pressure really affected me and I am not feeling so confident about this test right now.

I have been working on PS and some other essays but it seems like delaying a cycle is inevitable.

Even if I apply this cycle and tell schools I am sitting for February exam, I feel like the 160 from December really limits where I can apply (and I cannot reasonably expect myself to all of sudden score 10 pts higher in a month time).

What do you guys think?

Getting as many test experience under my belt (go for Feb) vs. being careful to only take tests when I feel very ready for my target score (wait till June)?

Thank you in advance for sharing your thoughts!

Dec 2017 score 153. Hoping to break into 160s, and I think there's a good chance. The 153 was at the tail end of nearly a month of acute bronchitis, I even had to leave during LG to cough a lung up in the hallway. Thought about cancelling at the time, but was fairly sure I could regain control of my nerves to finish without complete disaster. My UG GPA & softs with even a 153 are probably enough to get me into my state school of preference.

I'm a non-trad, grad student. Please be ready to provide references and have an established credible method of receiving payment like PayPal.

Happy New Year, y’all!

I’m not as active on this forum as some of you, but I’m very grateful for this online community! Without fail, every single time I log on, the support 7sagers provide to each other is undeniably evident, and that’s invaluable!

So cheers to all of us, and here’s to breaking ceilings, defying curves and scoring 180s! ??

I'm wondering how bad it looks taking it a third time. I cancelled the first time and did way below my PT average in December. Does a high third score truly take the place of all of those marks? And is an addendum (when not required) even worthwhile to write?

Put down your LSAT books for a day, reflect on 2017, get ready to celebrate 2018, and have some fun!

My mom always told me, whatever you do on the last day of a year, you’ll do all of the next year! So no chores today, do things you enjoy!

Happy New Year 7Sagers!

Hi all, I know this issue has been addressed before but I wanted to hear more thoughts on it. I took the test in September and December, and though both scores were very good, the second one was in a higher score band than the first: seven points higher. I retook the test simply because I knew I could do better. I'm trying to decide if I should include a VERY brief addendum saying something to just that effect, or does the higher score speak for itself? Those were the only two times I took the test, and since it's quite common to retake, I don't want to bore the admissions officers with an extra page of reading if it's not necessary; but I do feel that the December score represents my true ability, so I'm not 100% sure which strategy is better. Any advice is appreciated!

I'm not exactly sure how to go about drafting a personal statement. I'm applying to ND, and their application states that I should provide insight about myself and about why I'm interested in pursuing a legal education... But beyond that, I'm stumped. I've overcome adversity in a number of ways; I definitely plan to write about this because I feel it'll set me apart from my peers in a positive way. What else might I touch upon?

Since as long as I can remember, I've ALWAYS had a fascination with the law. I went through undergrad thinking I'd begin a career in law enforcement, but as I progressed through my undergraduate years my interests shifted more and more toward working in the legal field in more of a "white collar" type of atmosphere. After branching out, doing my research, speaking with a few lawyers that I knew relatively well, I decided to pursue a legal education.

I do plan to mention all of this in my personal statement. However, I believe that my personal statement will still be pretty skeletal beyond touching upon that and my section on overcoming adversity.

Thoughts?

Hey everyone! I essentially have the majority of my apps ready to go. However, I have only three of the four LORs submitted to LSAC. I know that as long as you have the minimum two recommendations, you can just go ahead and send them and your application will be updated, but the professor sending the 4th and final one is probably the most important one since I've worked with him on numerous occasions. He said his letter will be ready in the beginning of January; what do you all think? Should I just wait and send them all once I receive his letter, or just send them now? Thanks! ?