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Hi everyone,
I'll be taking the Oct Lsat on the 14th, and until just now I've been PTing+BR 3 times a week. My PT scores for older PTs (50-69) were within 168-172, but as I started working on the 70's my average PT score declined to the mid 160's. I am worried about the test due to the decrease in my score, so I purchased 7Sage Starter course (I regret I didn't use it earlier) to go over the fundamentals. As of today I used all PTs except the 80's, preptest C, and C2. For the rest of the days until the LSAT, I'm planning to do some 7sage CC (focusing on LR) but also want to do 2 or 3 PTs before the test. Which PTs should I use? And also which of JY's videos among the CC were most helpful to you?
Thank you in advance guys :)
Specifically some questions of LR on section 4. Let me know! I'm around this week. We can do a phone call.
Would appreciate it
Hi all.
I graduated college last December and basically committed myself to studying for the LSAT since January of 2018. I worked a very flexible part-time job that allowed me to study more or less 15-20 hours a week. My original intention was to take the LSAT in June.
However, in hindsight, my studying was pretty ineffective. I went through the Bibles and took very detailed notes and then registered for 7sage in March (also taking very detailed notes on the lessons.) I kind of ignored practice tests or even practice sections. I guess a good analogy would be that I was reading books on how to play the piano without ever practicing on a piano.
I pushed my test to September and tried taking a practice test every week or so beginning in late July. By the time I had taken the test, I had maybe 7 or 8 PTs completed. Unfortunately, I didn't blind review them like I know I should've and I also didn't spend enough time on logic games (always my worst section.) My scores were in the mid 160s with a one time high of 170.
I sat for the September test and ended up with a 162. My diagnostic back in January was 153. I know I have the potential to do a lot better. My goal is a 170. I have a 4.0 GPA and I'd love to go to a T-14 or a T1 school on a large scholarship (I'm very debt averse.)
I left my job and will be committing myself to just taking PTs, timed sections, blind reviewing, and fool proofing from now until November. Is it possible to see an 8 point improvement by the November test? I hope to take 3 PTs a week between now and the exam.
Some other miscellaneous information:
On PTs, my best section has always been LR. I usually got 1-3 wrong on each LR section. For the September exam, I got -15 (9 and 6) on LR - my worst section. Ironically, I did pretty well on LG - only 2 wrong, despite usually going -5 on LG during PTs.
Am I allowed to post about the fairy circles question and get help having someone explain why the answer is what it is? Delete if I’m not. I just really don’t get it.
I was wondering if the following answers are all correct predictions for the following Sufficient Assumption question.
Every student who walks to school goes home for lunch. It follows That some students who have part-time jobs do not walk to School.
Diagramed as: WS -> GHL
/GHL->/WS
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PT some /WS
My predictions:
a. Some students who do not go home for lunch have a part-time job.
b. Every student who does not go home for lunch has a part-time job.
c. Most students who do not go home for lunch have a part-time job.
Thank you :)
Hi everyone,
A lot of the schools that I'm applying to list their letter of reference requirements as "2 required - at least one academic." I was just wondering if it is better to get two academic references or use the other as an employment reference, personal, etc. Is there an preference from law schools on this? I have a few choices for both but I'm just not sure what route to go down.
Thank you all in advance :)
*P.S I'm applying to Canadian schools - not sure if this matters
So unfortunately for those of us who are retaking the LSAT in November explanations for the September 2018 probably won't be available until after we sit for our November exam so I'm looking for any tips to help me( and my fellow retakers) review the September 2018 LSAT. I am definitely a little concerned that I'll hit the questions that I got wrong and even after reviewing the questions I still won't understand why I got them wrong and why the correct answers are correct ?
I'm quite interested in studying health law but many schools don't offer this program. The T-14 only has some schools with health law courses, but there isn't a large focus on it. However, many tier 2/3 schools have health law departments and programs. Should I be focused on getting into the best ranked school I can? Or school I focus on a school that has my interests?
Hi everyone,
I've taken all of the PTs 60 onwards in full. Does it make sense to redo the more recent ones (78-84) as I get closer to the November test date, or should I take the earlier PTs that I haven't taken before? Thanks so much!
Hey everybody!
So I've been going back to PTs19-28 for the past month and have been averaging -3 on RC (which is great for me). Then I just took a more recent test and got killed on the comparative passage. This is what I'm thinking about my strategy:
Read each passage, marking 3-word summaries in the margins of the paragraphs. At the end of each passage, write the main idea of each passage. I will try to consider them individually at first to get a good sense of one without always thinking about how it interacts with the other.
Then, I'll write a little table. At the top I write "Link:" and find the theme/idea that essentially links these two passages. In the table, I'll write two columns: S (for similarities), D (for differences). I'll list what they have in common, and ideas they do not share at all. Id like to do this work up front, because I think I wouldn't struggle with the questions and have to go back to the text all that much.
Does anyone have any strategies they'd like to share?
LR is hard for me because my reading comprehension skills are not that good.
I believe my average is about 14 correct per LR section. How do I get this to 18+? I've been through the trainer..finished most of the LR in the CC and I am still so bad at LR.
I want to move on to the LG section of the CC, however, I feel like that's a bad idea because I'd be abandoning LR too soon. I want to be decent at LR before I move onto LG.
Some of y'all are so good at LR.. when I see people say that they get "-2 or -1" on LR.. it amazes me. You rock.
November'18 Study Group | Blind Review PT 70 | Thursday, October 4 | 7:30 PM EST
When we all tackle a tough question together.
If you are done the curriculum or almost done the curriculum, join us when you can. We welcome people in all stages of prep. The point of the group is to get your lsat nerd on with other like-minded people and make the process more fun. Expand your thinking and learning by interacting with others! For my fellow shy-people, everyone is going to be focused on their own answers/questions that I guarantee you they will not be judging you based on mispronounced words, reading-speed, etc. It's all for fun!
Note: Take the PT under timed conditions; BR to the best of your abilities; join us for all or part of the call! For the purposes of the group please don't check the answers beforehand. If you happen to know the answer, keep it to yourself, and win the argument using your reasoning. Also, please don't go "so I know the answer is C but I don't know why B is wrong?" as the purpose is so that we all collaborate on improving our reasoning skills.
Enter the questions you wish to go over on the spreadsheet below! Write your name beside the question(s) you wish to cover, if the question(s) you want to cover are already marked by someone else, add your name! :) The more discussion, the merrier.
Based off of my experience and deliberation with some other folks, we're going to try something new for this group. Instead of having a call every week, we will instead have a call every other week. The reason being is that I think that the process of taking a PT, BR-ing it thoroughly, and doing drills to address weaknesses that were ascertained from that PT/BR can be really taxing when repeated weekly. I noticed, among myself and regulars on the call, that having the call scheduled every week really exacerbated burnout. Especially since people would try to force themselves to attend as many calls as possible because they felt they'd be missing out and would neglect signs of burnout. I realize that this means there won't be as many calls but this was a decision made after much deliberation. After all, PTs are just a snapshot of your understanding, the bulk of your learning happens in BR and drilling. Of course, people are free to take a PT or two every week if they need to.
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Why can't you split using the MY not both rule? #help
hey all,
so i've been really grappling with this question. 11 out of the top 15 law schools accept the GRE - Harvard, Chicago, Columbia, NYU, UVA, Penn, Georgetown, Cornell, Northwestern, Texas.
Through my 1.5 years of studying for the LSAT, I've realized it's really hard. I've done all the PT's from 30-63, and I am scoring in the mid 160s timed, BR score is mid 170s.
Honestly, I'm feeling kinda burned out of the LSAT. The thought of hundreds of more hours of fool proofing more games, blind reviewing, etc. is putting a lot of weight on me. There's also the constant fear of underperforming on my LSAT (I haven't taken it yet), only to have to retake it again.
I've really considered the GRE. From what I've heard, the GRE is A LOT easier, and could be prepared for in a MUCH shorter amount of time than the LSAT.
From my friend who got into HLS with her GRE:
"The LSAT is so time consuming!! If we HAVE to take the LSAT, I would have. But if I can get in with the GRE, why put myself through the torture? GRE was two weeks of intense study, the LSAT would be like, 12 months."
She skipped the LSAT, took the GRE, and is a 1L at HLS.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be welcome. Thanks!
Hi all! As I'm working on my resume for applications, I was wondering if anyone had some advice about how to list my UG merit based scholarship. It has a specific name (Coronat Scholar) and with came with full tuition; only about 15 people per year receive it. I'm wondering if it would be better to just simply list "Coronat Scholar" or include some elaboration in a bullet point (like full tuition scholarship). Just not sure if thats considered tacky or if thats actually helpful information to an admissions officer. Thank you in advance!
Hi...
I need some help in depicting what went wrong.
I started studying since mid-April with a 149 start.
My first exam in July was a 155.
I've been consistently PTing around 160-164.
And my September exam was shot down to 148.
I don't know what happened. Yes, test conditions were horrible, but I don't think that's an excuse.
I haven't studied once since the September exam and now, I'm terrified.
I've lost all confidence and I'm scared. I don't know what to do.
I was planning to send in my applications this Wednesday, but now I'm completely lost.
I can't get into the schools that I was planning to apply, and I wasn't planning on lowering my standards too much.
My GPA is 3.72 and I'm not a URM, but a veteran.
I just feel hopeless and I don't know where to start.
I know in my mind I should sign up for the November exam, but with this devastation, I'm having a difficult time overcoming it.
What do I need to do? I know... I should have studied a bit, in case of situations like this... but I can't do anything with lost time.
Do I go on with the 155 or sign up for November? I won't even know if it's an improved score or worse score...
Can I apply ED with a current LSAT score, and then retake in November and apply with a new, potentially improved score?
I’ve been crunching the numbers and my chances of getting ED into the school of my choice (one of the UCs) is 23% with the LSAT score I have now. If I retake and apply in December, I have to improve by 3 points to get back to that likelihood, and by 7 points to even get to a 50/50 shot of acceptance. But the average improvement seen for retakes at my level (mid 160s) is only 2 points. Doesn’t seem like my chances of improving things are good. But I really really want to get a 170, or at least get a chance to go at it again.
All,
On the 7Sage LR flowchart I cant figure out what “piece together the information” entails.
Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.
Tjanks
I am pulling my hair out over GULC's optional essay prompts. Anything I come up with feels forced, lame, or like it doesn't add to my overall application. I know they are optional, but GULC is my top school, so I'm fretting a bit over what it might (subconsciously) mean if I don't feel motivated to write one -- they're just so funky! I'm done with all of my other applications at this point so I'm just trying to figure this out... For reference:
If anyone has any tips or examples they've read, feel free to pass them my way!
Hi All,
I took the June test and scored a 153 which was my average at the time. I studied all summer and only had time to take two PT's before September; both were recent tests and I scored a 159 and 161. I took the September test feeling really confident and scored a 150 which I haven't scored that low since my diagnostic. Test conditions were good and I wasn't feeling nervous. (-11 RC, -15 LR, -8LG, -10LR). I have never done so poorly in LR, but RC and LG were relatively consistent.
I was hoping to apply ED but that is out the window. I was wondering if I should sign up for November or just wait it out until January? I graduate in early December so I will have more time then but I can't help but think that I should try to sit for November so I don't pin up my hopes of having one last take in January for this cycle. I'm curious whether it would be advisable to just sign up Nov and withdrawal before if these next weeks don't go well.
My target would be 158-162. My average BR is 165.
Thank you for your input!
I keep getting emails from Mitchell Hamlin, and it got me to really think about hybrid schools (online and intensive in-person classes).
Where I live, it is 4 hours to the nearest law school. I would have to move and live away from home, causing hardship at home and racking up student loan Bill's in the meantime. It is not preferable, but it's the only options here at all. So, a hybrid program is looking really appealing to me right now. I'm actually shocked that ASU hasnt already done this, and I'll probably email them to see if maybe they are considering it in the near future. They already do a vast amount of online degrees and classwork.
Anyway, I wanted to know what folks thought of Mitchell Hamlin and Syracuse Law. There are three schools as of the 2019 year, but Southwestern is looking less appealing to me than the other two. I want a law degree, but I dont want a University of Phoenix kind of law degree that might not help me (sorry South Western). So, I would love any knowledge or feedback from fellow 7Sagers. What say you?
Probably the thousandth person to ask this, but how can I improve my time on LG? I can go either -0 or -2 now, but it takes me an hour to figure out all four games completely. I do the game board up front and don’t have to really refer to the stimulus that much (or at all) after I’ve made my board, but I do know that figuring out which game board to use can take me some time, and shaking loose the inferences takes me a while. Looking for concrete tips. TIA
I was advised to not repeat things on my resume and I'm not really sure why. I was under the impression that your resume is just to briefly describe what you did at your work. Of course in an essay one wouldn't want to be overly repetitive and use the same words/phrases, but some job duties between jobs are the same.
If one were i.e. working at a fast food restaurant, and then their next job was working at a different fast food restaurant....one would probably expect to read "flipping burgers" repeated between the jobs...I don't understand the importance of trying to rephrase that to ..."rotating" burgers or something.
I think it sounds a little bit stupid and like I'm trying to be fancy and trick the reader into thinking I did something different between jobs...or it just lacks consistency...I just think this is the wrong advice...
Hi all,
My account expired on Sunday Sept 30th while I was gone away for my cousins wedding for the past week. It completely slipped my mind to extend my account before the wedding, and now all of my Preptests that I bought are all gone! TBH I am slightly panicking, does anyone know who I should contact to see if I can get my account back to how it was? I really don't want (don't have $$) to buy all the exams all over again :(
#help
Hello, I took the sept lsat and am not satisfied with my score. I actually took the testmasters course but our teacher was very inexperienced and more interested in is own 170+ score and his law school application. I don’t fully blame the teacher but I’m really not happy with the results of the course (score was worse than my first diagnostic in July). Additionally, the week before the exam, I knew I was getting sick and my body crashed right after I took the test and I was sick for over a week. I am pretty sure that had something to do with my disappointing score. I didn’t know about 7sage until this past weekend and I plan to take the November exam. But I wanted to reach out to those in the course to see which program would be best for me. I have materials to self study but would like to learn alternative ways to prepare.