I just took the Dec. 2017 exam in Staten Island and there was basically every possible distraction you could think of, the worst one being a music/theatre practice taking place in the classroom DIRECTLY above. There were people singing OPERA and playing the piano during an entire LG section (no one thought to go upstairs and ask them to stop). The proctors also had full conversations/giggled throughout various sections and since I was sitting right in front of them it was incredibly distracting. On top of this, the heater began making really loud banging noises non-stop for almost an entire LR section.

I don't want to cancel my score, but all these disturbances definitely made it harder to focus which significantly slowed me down. If I complain could I get my next exam free? Advice?

Hi all,

I'm planning on applying to most of the T14, and I have already drafted a 2 page PS. Berkeley, however, has a 4 page limit. My pre-law advisor (at my undergrad institution) said that I should just submit a 2 pager (because it's apparently quite strong as is and "less is more").

Do you all agree? Should I keep it as short as possible, or should I fill the space? I would love to get @"David.Busis"' opinion, if possible!!

I'm the kind of person who tends to write a lot in general, but I know that's a habit I'll have to work on in law school. I would think concision is a trait law school admissions committees value, no?

Is it true that step 3 and 6 are the same? We, twice, have to piece together the information?

Hi Guys,

I just have a question for weakening / flaw answer choices. Although there is some over lap between the two, I know that they are distinct and I understand how to approach them differently. However, sometimes I have difficulty distinguishing the KEY difference between their answer choices. For example, if a answer choice in a weakening questions presents a flaw can that be the right answer choice? In other words, what are they key differences in their respected answer choices.

Thanks,

Nas

Who has better journalism ethics?

Congratulations to everyone who wrote yesterday. Hopefully you’re all enjoying some hard earned time off.

I’m looking for a bit of guidance on how to handle what felt like a BAD write yesterday. December was the last admissible write for my only school option next year (extenuating circumstances preventing me from studying elsewhere). I’m applying with a splitter GPA that would require a 167/168+ for admittance next year. They also average scores, so a low score stays with me. If I don’t start next cycle, I’ll be upgrading classes to boost my gpa for 2019.

PT average has been in the 172-175 range for 40 plus PTs. Lowest write in 2 plus months was a 168.

Yesterday’s Test:

RC - Felt good while writing, but I’ve had a fair bit of RC variability in writing recently ranging from -1 to -5. This felt like a strong section, so I’d hope for something at the bottom end of that.

LR1 - Total blur. I had to guess on a minimum of one question and was rushed on 3-4. As a whole I don’t feel very confident about this section. LR has traditionally been my strongest section with a -1.5 average, but I feel like this could have been anywhere from -3 to -8.

LG - Felt good on three games, but fear I may have misdiagrammed one. Guessed on two due to time. I’m thinking -5+.

LR2 - Felt like a normal LR section, but it’s tough to say.

I have no idea what to make of my potential score. Mt best guesses are ranging between -12/13 if I performed better than expect on the LR1 to -20.

Options:

If I cancel and rewrite, I’m pushing myself into the next admissions cycle and upgrading. I strongly feel that I could perform better on a second write, but the prospect of setting everything back a year is far from ideal.

Chance it on this test/cycle and risk a low score that requires a higher GPA requirement subsequently.

TL;DR

How reliable an indicator is feeling like you bombed the exam the day after the test?

What would you do?

So one of my worst fears came true. I caught a horrible cold right before the LSAT. My throat started to hurt Thursday, Friday my brain felt foggy all morning, and I was bed-ridden by the evening. I slept for a maximum of 4 hours because I couldn't stop coughing and my throat hurt immensely. On Saturday morning, I wasn't as bad as I was Friday evening and night but I was sick enough that I would have stayed home from work had it been a normal weekday. But, as we all know, it was not - so I wrote my LSAT in a haze of sickness and exhaustion. I know it went poorly.

I scored 3 points under my average in Sept., with a 167 (with a 3 question bubbling error ugh). I'm Canadian and need a scholarship to go to a top American uni (the Canadian dollar is very weak and our universities are just way cheaper for law, so scholarship is absolutely necessary to validate the American route). My GPA is above the median at almost all of the T14s, and I have some cool experiences under my belt, so I knew I had that if I nailed this Dec. LSAT, I would have a really good chance at a great school and $$. The Harvard dream felt almost reachable. I worked my butt off and brought up my PT average to a 172.6, with my highest PT being a 176. I felt like 10% of the anxiety that riddled me going into the week of the Sept. LSAT. I was in a place where I was ready to rock this test. But alas, sickness.

Now, my question:

Would it be at all helpful for me to go to a clinic and get a doctor's note verifying my sickness to submit along with an explanation of why my second score didn't increase to what I expected (or perhaps why it decreased [ughhhhh])? Would this be a smart thing for me to do or is it a waste of time and money (I don't have health care coverage right now)? I'm pretty positive I don't have strep and I got the flu shot a month ago so it's not the flu - it's just a stupid, inconvenient, relentless, common cold.

I'm genuinely crushed by this whole situation, so any advice is welcomed. Thanks guys.

Hi everyone,

I took the LSAT for the first time today (after not feeling prepared for September and canceling the day before), and actually felt okay about my chances at 160+. That is, until I panicked during the Games (last section), and unknowingly mis-bubbled starting mid-way through the section. I'd say I was actually doing okay on the games (moving slowly but ensuring I did the first 3 games right), and had 5 minutes left for the last one. After setting up the last game, I realized that on the second game, I'd skipped the first question (intending to go back), but didn't skip the corresponding bubble. At this point, there was about 2 - 3 minutes left and I hadn't circled my previous answers in the booklet. After trying to shift them down and randomly marking the last 3 questions, I realized that I still hadn't correctly bubbled one of the answers in the middle -indicating that perhaps (or even probably) I hadn't actually fixed the bubbling correctly. I was able to correct that answer, but have no idea if the 10-15 answers below it were bubbled correctly or not.

I'm applying this admissions cycle with targets of Vandy, Duke, and Emory (URM applicant, strong softs). Should I cancel and re-take in February (sending in materials early and explaining the mishap) or let the score come (expecting as low as 140s) and promise to have a higher score in February?

I know the mis-bubbling is my fault and definitely take responsibility, just wondering if I should cancel. Any advice is appreciated!

Despite my long journey of preperation for yesterday, my neurosis is not stopping the "what if's" in my head. So I am strongly considering registering for feb, and not wasting an entire month that I could be studying while waiting for scores to release. I am applying for Fall of next year and I am wondering if anyone knows how I would go about disclosing or not disclosing my choice to take feb in my applications... Do I tell schools that I will be taking feb? Will that mean that they will not yet consider my application until feb scores release? Or do I simply send out apps with December score and approach said schools with my feb score when it releases? Not sure how this exactly works. Sorry this is so convoluted but I'm sure the 7 sage community knows what I'm trying to get at ...

Hey guys! Just looking for any and all advice you can give me regarding the below:

I just took the December LSAT and I felt okay about it until I found out that what I thought was my experimental LG section was actually the real scored section. For reference, LG is usually my best section (max I've gotten is -3 on LG). On this test, one LG section seemed relatively normal and I finished on time, while the other LG section I was completely confused and ended up randomly bubbling in about 6-8 questions. Naturally, I assumed that was the experimental section but retrospectively, I must have just been REALLY off my game for that section (granted, I have been/currently am pretty sick, but trying not to use that as an excuse).

So my question is - Should I cancel this score? For reference, I took the test once already last year and got a 160. Before this Dec test, I was PT'ing in mid to high 160s, with BR scores in mid to high 170s (I'm pretty sure it's a timing issue, so going into this test I was already considering taking it a third time because I know I can still improve). Now I think I should cancel my score, because best case scenario (somehow the answer for every question on one of the logic games is 'C' and I somehow don't lose too much on LG), my score will still likely not be where I want/what I know I'm capable of. Worst case scenario, I do much worse on this test and get a lower score than last time (which is very likely because I don't feel confident that I did well enough on RC/LR to offset this poor LG section). My thought process is what's the point in having a worse score on my record if even the potential benefit of a best case scenario score is still not where I want it to be?

I'm really leaning towards cancelling because I'm 99% sure I'm going to take it again, but I would greatly appreciate any and all advice/experiences about cancelling (mostly if there are any repercussions in doing so in terms of my future applications).

Thank you in advance, and if you took the December test as well, congratulations on making it and good luck!!

Greetings from Delaware. Yes, the state. Since nobody decided to review the U of D, I figured I'd tell you. Beyond it being a building with rooms and professional staff, there are some quirks about the environment. This is a laundry list of stuff, and is subject to change. I took the December 2017 test, so now you have a reference point.

First off, they do it in Alison Hall. The rooms can contain about 30 test takers at any time. Don't worry, I doubt you'll be in a room with more than 15 people. This is Delaware: the state. There's not a lot of Demand for our only law school.

Second, the desks are small. Your desk space will contain a bit more than the size of your LSAT book when opened. It's best if you store your pencils and erasers under your book. Also, the desks have wheels, and the wheels don't lock. If you're a leg figitter, you're going to have some sweet travels in the room. The good news is that there are desks for left-handed people. The bad news is there's only one or two per room. Pro tip - if you're left handed, try to enter the room last. This is what I did, and they gave me two right handed desks to use. I got a bit more space than the others, which let me spread out like the !@#$ lord I am.

Third, the clocks. Every room has a clock in it, but do not bank on using it. The clocks are normally in the corners, and very hard to see. If you need a clock to reference, bring an analog watch.

Fourth, parking. You'll be using the parking garage about a five minute walk from Alison Hall. It's on the same street (Academy) as Alison Hall, so you're good. The cost is five dollars for all day parking. I suggest you pay the five dollars because UD cops literally have nothing better to do than write tickets and impound cars.

Fifth, the bell. For those of you who have never been to UD, there's this baller bell toll every hour (time marches on... !@#$ I'm old...). It's faint, but noticeable.

Pretty much all I got. Hope this helps.

Hey guys! I hope you did well. For some odd reason, I wasn't given the same test as everyone else. Did others with accommodations have different tests?

I usually do pretty well with reading speed. Never more than 5minutes (which is rare). Normally between 3:30 and 4. But when I hear JY's target times I don't understand how anyone could get through the questions that fast. Does anyone have any feedback on how to improve speed?

Do I need to improve my accuracy before I improve my speed?

I have noticed that there are no Logic Games Bundle past PT 35. Is that because of licensing reasons with LSAC?

Thanks!

So, give it to an established news source, or keep it for her own website?

Hey all! So I submitted a resume for a school that comes out fine out of my printer but I'm worried that my narrow margins might not work for every printer. Should I email a resume with better margins to the school - just to be safe?

I feel I'm just making silly mistakes like this in on my apps.

Hey everyone,

Hope everyone had a successful take today. I had a quick question about what scores law schools look at. I know it obviously varies between schools but do schools who say they evaluate the top score do so even if a more recent score is not the highest? I got a 165 in September but only missed 2-3 on LG. This test, I felt a lot more confident on RC and a little more confident on LR but LG was rough to me. I ended up guessing on probably 3 questions.

Is it worth considering cancelling?

Please note that the information below will change to reflect the information we get! Contribute if you can via the official December 2017 LSAT discussion (linked at the bottom of this thread) without going into too much detail. If you think something is wrong or should be added, please post in the thread and let me know.

Real Sections:

LG:

-Cruise ship trips to Manila/Osaka/Shanghai

-Musical Performances

-Metro Closures

-Apartment Cleaning

RC:

-Chinese Language

-Heroes and Multiverse

-Copywriting Comedians and Chefs

-Social Theorists about Darwinism

LR:

-Indian Spice

-Nuclear Fusion of Atoms/Heat

-T. Rex

-Tilapia Fish

-Alzheimer's Disease

-Herbal Medicines that Become Harmful

-Herniated Disks

-Dolphin Habitat

-Raising Prices by 25 Cents

-7pm and 6pm

-Fish Fingers

-Copper Tools and Canoes

-Sensing Tornadoes

-Movie Review

-Caligula

-Mayor Getting Re-Elected

-Black/White Camoflage

-Greek Character Reading Oracle's Tablet

-Disagreement About How Companies Should Go About Things

Experimental Sections:

LG:

-Rumor

-Fruits

-Voting Committees and Zoning Committees

RC:

-Protest Fiction

-Tax Alternatives

-Ice Cores

LR:

-Mosquitoes and Leaves

-Potato Insects

-Whistleblower

-Birds Feigning Injury

UNCONFIRMED:

If you can confirm that these are real / experimental, please do so by PMing me or posting in the main thread.

LR:

-PTSD, stress, and cortisol levels

-Planet 256

-Lake Sassafras

-Lichens

This thread is closed for discussion. Official post Feb LSAT discussion stickied!

After months of studying, I finally took the December LSAT today. I completely bombed the LG section. I have no idea why I struggled with it, it didn't feel hard. I kept messing up my rules and missed bubbled twice in the section which I had to go back and erase and fix, which I still feel like I didn't properly do. I didn't end up making it to the last game which I just bubbled a random letter for the whole game. I felt I did well on the other sections but that won't make up for how badly I did on LG. LG is typically my best section for the most recent LSATs I've been missing no more than 4 and thats when there is a really hard game in the section. This was the third time I took the test. I took it June 2015 and canceled then again December 2016 and scored a 154. I've been studying on and off for more than a year and a half and really worked hard for this December test. I know I can score over a 160 easily but it is highly dependent how well I do on LG. I am really considering taking the test again February one last time and just focusing on LG with a bit of LR and RC until I take the test.

How badly will law schools look at fourth take? I really feel like this test was not indicative of what I can do especially since this time I came prepared. I just don't want to give up on going to good law school because my nerves got the best of me.

(Not literally)

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I’m a theater person who doesn’t wish people good luck. And you don’t need luck. You’ve rehearsed this. You know exactly what to do. You are gonna kill this!

Tomorrow is your time to shine!

But remember this is just a test. There’s more to life than this. Don’t freak yourself out. You’re gonna be fine.

throwaway account for 'obvious' reasons lol

we've had these semi-joke, semi-serious posts before, but...

this is it. in all seriousness, I'm going to the shop later today to acquire some quality adult diapers. it's 10:20am in my time zone and I just had to go to the bathroom. no telling this won't happen tomorrow as well lolol

worst case scenario, it's going to be nice and warm through the test.

Any thoughts?

West coast time, about to head in. Thinking of everyone already elbow deep in the test. I know you’re crushing it! See ya this afternoon!

I just finished it last night. How 'bout those closing arguments for the defense?? Am I right? Just poking holes all up in that prosecutor's argument like he were Zorro or something. Ahhh so good. Great book!

So I was just contemplating about tomorrow. I'm done studying and the stress sets in. But,despite it being one of the most stressful days in my life, I look forward to tomorrow. First, and most important, it will be all over! Second, I really enjoy getting to the test site early to people watch. Yes PEOPLE WATCH! If you are an avid people watcher, you know you'll see some gemstones tomorrow.

People watching can also be a great way to calm yourself down.

Like when you go to bed and can't fall asleep you count sheep, same when you wait for lsat you can count people's pencils.( I brought 10 last time myself) People go to extremes to feel ahmmn "secure" is the word? Especially the first time takers! Another thing that calms me down before the big L (no pun intended) is talking with people about the way in which they studied or how long they prepared. I go into every test feeling like I haven't studied enough, like maybe I don't know this stuff and all PT I've taken were for nothing. I sit biting myself down, when I hear "oh I haven't studied at all" or "I thought the experimental section was noted so we know which one it is". People tend to be so confident. I'm jealous of their "no fucks given" mentality, but it boosts my ego just to know I may be ok afterwards ?