Hi everyone,

I was just wondering if someone could please give me some advice. I have listened to JY's videos and engaged myself in MANY weakening questions, but I'm still struggling with them. I used JY's advice in terms of "tackling LR questions" via the flow chart, along with focusing on how I can "weaken" the support between the premises and conclusion.... but what I think I'm struggling with is finding other assumptions that would weaken the original support.

Does anyone have any tips or advice?

Thanks so much!! xx

Ps - I seem to be doing very well on strengthening questions, but weakening seems to be much more difficult.

Are we supposed to include every single thing we did during our studies in our resume for law school? Mine will end up being around 4 pages long and that seems wayyy too long. Does anyone know? Thanks!

So guys, I found a strategy that worked for me on logic games and this may not necessarily work for everyone.

But with days before the test day, for those of you who are struggling with logic games this MAY help you out. The sections I struggle with the most are RC and LR, hence I spent a lot of my time on these sections to improve my score while I neglected LG a bit since everyone was saying it's the easiest section to improve on.

I went from scoring -6 on LG to 0/-2 in only a few days.

This is what I did. Last week, I reviewed all the CC logic game videos (ie. I watched JY do the diagramming/questions for each type of game type not including the problem sets). I already did the problem sets in the past but it was a while since I touched logic games and I wasn't scoring as high as I would like.

Logic games is one of those sections that you can improve on. People on this forum aren't lying!! Thank you to everyone who helped me out with games btw!

After going through all the CC videos, I would recommend doing some of the games on the CC if you found it pretty hard to follow along with JY's inferences/diagrams etc. I know the miscellaneous games can be pretty nerve-racking but honestly, those games all involve the basics that we have been taught with logic games. Diagramming for misc. games might be the most difficult part but I would honestly recommend visualizing the scenario in your head. This helps a lot with diagramming, especially for me. I feel like once you dive into the game.. they aren't actually that hard since they involve the same type of questions etc. Reviewing the CC videos again just refreshed my mind with the possible types of logic games and I tried to draw the same types of inferences that JY was drawing. The games are really repetitive hence why I think this approach worked.

After I had re-watched the CC logic games videos, I printed 1-2 copies of PT 60-82 sections. I did all the sections timed and then re did the games or sections that I really had trouble with timed. I can honestly say, this process has helped me so much with logic games.

I obviously am pretty proficient with the conditional rules, diagramming, etc. so I found majority of the games to be pretty easy.

Again, this worked for me and may not work for everyone but I think it was worth sharing!

Feel free to ask me questions below incase I missed anything!

Good luck on the December test everyone!

Hi everyone. Has anyone worked this question? If so, could you explain to me why D is incorrect? It's supposed to be an easy question being in the earlier portion of the section, but it trapped me. I get it that A is correct, but I still don't see why D (Most workers are earning more than the current minimum wages.) is wrong. Wouldn't it be true that if D is true, raising minimum wage wouldn't hurt businesses?

Just 5 days before the test, everyone. Good luck to us!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-57-section-3-question-06/

So I took PT80 in the morning and I scored my highest yet, but for some reason since the score is about +5 higher than what I usually average I am confused if this was an easy test or if something actually clicked in my head. Any experiences or thoughts on PT 80 ?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-80-section-1-question-24/

For some context, I missed 5 in this section (including this one) and 4 in the other LR section which is typical for me. I BR'd my other misses and skips in this section and was able to get them all correct. This question, I haven't been able to conclusively state why all AC are either right or wrong. I think I'm messing up my diagramming... so if you see glaring errors below, please tell me where I'm screwing up!

I just guessed (A) during the test as I was out of time. In BR I diagrammed as follows:

L > NUem

NU m> WHem

_

L m> WH

which is flawed argument form

A > B m> C

_

A m>C

I skimmed over the AC for quick eliminations and I eliminated C because it contains "never" in the conclusion.

Then I began diagramming the remaining AC:

(A) My question here is do I diagram "probably" in the conclusion as "most"?

CMSMour

CMSM m> REH

_

CMSMour m> REH (probably diagrammed as most>)

I eliminated (A) because it follows a valid argument form:

Ax

A m> B

_

Ax m> B

(B) I diagrammed "generally" as most...

REH m> EG

REHour > /EG

_

REHour > EG

I eliminated (B) because while it doesn't follow the same invalid form as the stimulus

(D)

Cour > MSM > EG

_

C > MSM m> EG

I think this looks like:

Ax > B > C

_

A > B m> C

A m>C

therefore matching the question's flawed reasoning.

(E) I'm having trouble diagramming the first sentence so I reconstructed "Most cities that are regional economic hubs contain major shopping malls." to "Most cities that contain major shopping malls are regional economic hubs." Does this change the nature of the sentence?

C > MSM m> REH

Cour > MSM

_

Cour m> REH

OR am I just complicating this and its as easy as:

REHcity m> MSM

OURcity > MSM

_

OURcity m> REHcity

which follows:

A m> B

Cx > B

_

Cx m> B

E just confuses me... and I can't figure out why.

I haven't watched the explanation, nor have i looked to see what the correct answer is because I'm really trying to work this out! Thanks in advance!

Blessed to be a part of the LSAT journey with 7Sagers challenging themselves to raise the bar higher to achieve their dreams. Your dedication to this test and most importantly your dedication to this community has raised the bar for future 7Sagers to gain knowledge to achieve their goals.

Believe in your knowledge and yourself... Be smart in your timing strategies, do not forget to breathe, and most of all - when the sh!t hits the fan, which it will no matter how awesome you are, don't sh!t in your pants - skip and get the heck out of that situation! Confidence is the key to this test and never let this test rule you!! The greatest feeling when leaving the test site is to know that you took the test the way you wanted to - no matter what the score is - no regrets:)

For everyone that I had the chance to meet during our LSAT journey, you made a difference in my life and I am truly thankful and wish you all the best on Saturday:)

Looking forward to the announcement for the Pep Rally - @"Cant Get Right" :)

Hey guys, I am having trouble understanding what is wrong with C. Even though I initially picked the right answer which is A I can't seem up eliminate C.

A) the proposed explanation for the decline in applications applies to this case

C) an increase in tuition and fees at the university would guarantee a larger applicant pool

the conclusion of the of this question is "so, if we want to increase the size of our applicant pool we need to raise our tuition and fees"

I just felt like A did a better job of capturing the relationship between the argument and the conclusion. Also even if C is negated it wouldn't destroy the argument because I can reply by saying "well it wouldn't guarantee but there is still a high possibility"

thoughts?

Thanks in advance

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-62-section-2-question-25/

Is anyone else having trouble chopping down your statements? Or have advice on how I can?

Picking a topic, figuring out what to say, and all other facets has been exhausting and excruciating. I finally have something down and it is much too long (a little more than 2 full pages before being double-spaced). I have FOCO (fear of cutting out something that might be great).

Are there any 7sage videos of lg a/b/c ?

Hi,

I'm quite certain I will be taking the test in Feb/June since I know I haven't reached my potential. I'm signed up for the December test and have been studying for about 3-4 months now. Most forums advice you to postpone the test and take it when you're ready. However, I don't understand what the drawbacks are if I do take the December test.

I have been considering to to take December instead of withdrawing since i've lost the money anyway, but want to be sure if there are any drawbacks for giving the test that I haven't looked into.

Thanks in advance

Hi all,

So I'm feeling bummed out because I'm a month behind in studying - I was sick for 3 weeks and could barely study during that time then had a family reunion overseas during Thanksgiving and wasn't able to study at all. I was on track to complete the CC by December 31 and want to make sure I make that deadline as I've been studying the core curriculum for 7 months now and would like to move on to the next step by the new year as I am aiming for June 2018 testing date.

So my question is - has anyone skipped some of the LG section on the CC since they were planning on doing the LG Bundle? I've completed about half of the LG section in the curriculum and am thinking of skipping the rest to complete the last RC questions buy 12/31 so I can stay on track. I plan on doing the LG bundle, so am thinking skipping this last bit of the section won't be a big deal.

Is this a bad plan?

Hey guys!

So I'm taking the test next Saturday and as it gets closer, I've had to continually remind myself of WHY I want to go. What's my drive for putting myself through this? I think we get so caught up in taking the test, we forget what the end result is - to go to law school and become a lawyer. So, I'm curious and figured I'd ask: what schools are people hoping to go to and why? Basically, "What do you want to be when you grow up?"

Hi

So the first time I took the LSAT I had a “mental breakdown” (just kidding) because people stresssd me out for no reason lol.

I’m apparently

Losing me mind the second time around because I no joke had a dream about logic games. Is this normal?

I had a problem with the answer choice on this one. I initially chose the correct answer of A, but on second thought, I eliminated because of "disadvantages". I went with E, because of Erik's conclusion that it was pointless = inconvenience rather than a benefit. I can't seem to reconcile the correct answer. It seems too strong in comparison with E.

I am taking the test next week, and I want to go from --2-5 to --0. I plan to drill straight for a couple days and watch JY's videos after, and redo any ones that I bombed. But should I strictly time myself or no? I really just need to get better at diagramming effectively, and when I time myself I spend less time thinking about that. I'm wondering if I think about strategy carefully during drills, I can pick up strategies to use during timed PTs? Idk...

I'm getting between -4 and -7 on the more recent RC, and I'm wondering how I should review these sections, and what I should be doing differently. I read for the organization/structure and take note of author attitude/opinion, and main points. I also underline names and key words.

I'm not sure what else I can do in the allotted time. Do people quickly skim the questions first to get a sense of what to look for, or is this generally pointless?

I haven't taken a lsat at a center yet (a real lsat) but I was wondering when time is called, does that mean all pencils must be dropped or can one finish bubbling one's answer?

Hi Everyone. I am a PhD student in biomedical and I will defend my PhD in 3-4 months. I took the September exam and ended up with 137. I had some practice but not much. Since then I had no more attempt and completely gave up. I do better at Games and worse at RC. The problem is, I have to translate it in my mind and the time is not sufficient for that.

Do you think I can get 160+ for next June if I keep practicing and what is your main advice to me?

Thanks

Hi guys,

Hope everyone is having a great Thanksgiving break!

I just had a quick question on Causation arguments. I know there are several ways to weaken a correlation/coincidence - causation arguments - providing a common cause that produced both the cause and the effect, showing the relationship is reversed, showing there is a problem with the sample data used, and providing alternate/competing cause.

My question is when stimulus gives a single coincidence (as opposed to correlation) as the support for causal conclusion, would it be safe to assume the answer will most likely be providing alternate/competing cause? I think I came across this concept in one of JY's videos on causations and I don't think I recall any question with coincidence-causation arguments of which the correct answer was not an alternate cause?

What do you guys think??

Thanks.

Hi all. I'm registered for the December test -- but don't feel like I've maximized my potential. I am getting in the 171 - 175 range, but consistently get at least 2-3 (sometimes much more) wrong in LG. I have done weeks/months of foolproofing and have seen significant improvement, but still not where I can get to a -0. I am thinking about postponing to feb, but that obviously means I will have to postpone a cycle. The reason why I am thinking about postponing is because I really want Y (academia), and they seem to care about how many takes you have. I'm aiming for a 175 +. Plan on spending the last two months (if I postpone) finishing up PTs (I've only taken around 15-20) and then drilling LG.

Two questions:

Thanks for all the help!!!

Hi Everyone-

Do you know where/how we can access resources to RCs with the two mini-passages (passages A and B)? They seem to be more common on the more recent prep tests, however, I was wondering if they are, in fact, available on 7 Sage? Also, Is there a specific instructional video JY has made on this topic (that I am overlooking in the course syllabus)?

Finally, if the answer is no to both these questions, does anyone know of a solid outside resources that can help with this RC problem?

Hi everyone,

I am stumbling upon this concept on this lesson https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/4-possible-explanations/

Correlation implies causation but, according to logic and lawgic, causation DOES NOT imply correlation. To my understanding, this lesson is telling me a completely different story and I cannot see the nuance. How is it possible that if A causes B, B can cause A???

Thanks very much!

Question? As you study, is it better to study each section and master how to do that section (ex. Main Point) before moving onto the next section (ex. MSS) or is it better to just learn the concept (ex MP-the answer choice will paraphrase) and move onto the next section knowing you are still getting alot wrong. But believing the blind review section is where you are suppose to master the skill.

I've been using my ID as a straight edge when diagramming for LG. Are we allowed to have our IDs on our desks during the exam?