I just started learning them and they're the first type of question that has completely thrown me off... Any tips?

Does anyone else feel like RC are just like extended LR questions? I've been using the same techniques for RC as I did for LR and it seems to be working out really well. I find it helpful to approach questions this way.

Taking the test in September :) and I would love to start or join an LSAT study group!

Can anyone please help explain how to get to the correct AC. I have pinpointed that I am having difficulty with questions of this type. I tried to diagram but got confused AGAIN! Can anyone please explain how to properly diagram this in order to arrive at the correct AC? Thanks

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I’m beginning to think that law school is not for me and I will never be able to reach my goal of a 170.

I work full time so I cannot dedicate a huge amount of time to studying during the week. However, I began learning the test material last July but have only switched to using 7Sage this January. Initially I was just using it as a supplement to my study material from another company but soon realized that 7Sage is superior and fits my style of learning a lot better. So I have been using it exclusively ever since. I have to be honest that I skipped sections of the CC (certain question types and LG) because I have taken a full length LSAT course and have done a decent amount of drills before switching to 7Sage.

I took a five section test (from more recent years) this past Saturday and scored the same as when I did in January. -2 LG, -10 RC, and -17 LR. I have narrowed RC to -4 to -6 and LR to -7 to -10 on PTs 35-45 before. Even though I’m not sure what happened but I don’t think this is an anomaly because I have had similar disastrous performance on the more recent PTs. How can the PTs be this different?

What should I do? I don’t even know what to focus on anymore. I refuse to believe that I have hit my own ceiling, but have I? All the comfort and confidence I built up from previous PTs are all of a sudden go.

I do a mixture of timed and untimed sections, primarily LRs and RCs throughout the week, along with additional drills from CC if necessary; and a full length PT on the weekend. I take my time to BR and watch video explanations. What am I doing wrong? How is it possible that I have not made significant progress since January? Please help me. I feel disappointed and mostly, so lost. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

hey all,

i was just wondering if everyone else also felt the the toughness of this test.

for me, it takes approximately 15 hours to complete 1 prep test cycle.

This consists of: 3 hours to take the test, 4 hours to blind review the entire test, 4 hours to check answers and review the test (watch video explanations, etc), and then 3 hours to watch my video footage of me taking this test.

Man, it's a ton of work -- just for one PT. And then I try to improve my weaknesses and then rinse and repeat.

So if I were to do 30 PT's, then this would take me 30 * 15 hours = 450 hours.

Man this is tough. I was wondering if others felt the same way .. or if anyone had any advice/suggestions/comments, etc. Thanks!

I've also heard from individuals like @"Cant Get Right" that in the end they were performing at a rate where they didn't even have to blind review anymore (they just did the blind review during within the time allotted of the test).

How long did it take to get to that point where you could feasibly do a test and completely review it in just 1 day? (currently, it takes me approximately 2-3 days to fully review a test).

I'm trying to figure out whether I should register for an LSAT date, but also trying to see if I can reach my goal score within that target period. I'm currently BR'ing at about my target score (mid 170s), but I just don't know if I can get my target score to my BR score by like July for example.

I've done all PT's as drills from 19-40, so I have 50-80 to do as full PT's, and I'm trying to create a PT schedule to aim to do all of them. Should I do aim to all 30 of those PT's? Currently it takes me like 3-4 days to complete a PT cycle... I really want though to be able to do more PT's and to get faster at this PT cycle (eventually bringing it to like 1-2 days to complete a PT cycle) and to finally just take this test (I've been studying for about a year). How long does it take to get to that point?

Sorry fo the rambling thoughts. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated! thanks! :) you guys are the best 7sage!

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I thought B was correct because the conclusion is that general reductions need to be taken when it comes to the pace of bringing the marketplaces new drugs being tested. I figured that since the social impact of antihistamine was far from clear than that means that it wasn't understood which then also lead me to believe that maybe there needs to be a reduction of the pace when it comes to drugs being tested because they are not clearly being understood which is what lead me to answer choice B. I see how B could be wrong when it comes to the wording of some. How is A correct though?

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Should you aim to do every single PT in the past 10 years? (From PT's 50-80?)

How do you know when you're ready to take this test?

Or another question, how do you know when you're ready to REGISTER to take this test?

I really want to register for like the September test date, but I just don't know if I'll ACTUALLY be ready by then.

Currently BR score is in mid 170s, timed scores 160s fluctuating a lot. I've drilled all PT's from 19-40 and have completed PT's 40-50.

I am hoping to try to do all PT's from 50-80 these next few weeks, but it's a lot of material and I don't know if I can cover all of it.

Any advice, suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

I start off the test performing well with a clear mind, and usually go -0 to -3 on the 1st and 2nd section. Yet when I get to the 3rd section, I feel like I'm not as focused, my mind isn't as clear. And this reflects itself in my score on that section, this usually effects me more on LR because the tricky questions do require a bit more concentration. When I'm fatigued I tend to go -7 on LR, it's like I can't concentrate on the questions deeply like I could during the 1st and 2nd sections. When I go to BR I bring it from -7 to at least -2, I really do think it's an issue of concentration and not boredom/distracted.

I plan to take 8 sections of LR with 15min after the 4th one. Do you guys think this will help? Or should I just take two four section PTs back to back with 15min in between instead? I'm trying to use my time more efficiently, and right now my core issue is being clear headed/not fatigued right at the 3rd section. I've read @"Seeking Perfection" recommend taking two PTs with 15min in between them. I don't have a problem with burn out at all, only loss of concentration/fatigue.

Hello everyone! I was wondering if anyone can guide me to a proper game plan working toward the September test.

A little back story...

I took a summer class with Blueprint two years ago hoping to take the September 2016 test. However, it ended up not being feasible with all that I was involved with at school so I decided to push it off a year and focused on keeping my GPA up (graduated 3.74).

Despite EVERYONE advising not to take the LSAT unless I'm 100% ready, I took the September 2017 test while I was in Korea dealing with a family situation (too long to desc on here). With about 1.5 months of studying, I ended up with a 160 after a week or two of PTing around 165-168.

Fast forward to this year, I've come back from a year in Korea dealing with the family stuff... pretty ready to tackle the LSAT for September. I took a new diagnostic with June 2007 since I've not touched anything LSAT related after that test and what do you know, a 160 (LR:-12, RC:-8, LG:-3).

So now I'm kind of confused as to where to go from here. I’m planning on studying full time btw. I clearly struggle with RC, and miss many of the difficult questions in LR, but I feel it might be too time consuming to go through the fundamentals again? Would you recommend that I jump into drilling the harder questions or is that essentially a fundamentals issue and I definitely should go through the CC?

My top choice is Columbia, but I'm not even certain it's possible by September. I was just hoping to maximize my chances by applying early but am considering pushing back if I see potential.

Sorry for the super long post, but as you can tell, I'm a little eager to end this LSAT journey and get to law school. If you have ANY advice for someone like me, I'd really appreciate it and it'll really help my anxiety. Thank you for reading this far!

How do you pre-phrase correctly? I notice that when I get an answer wrong and I look at someone else pre-phrase that they was right on. I tried the pre-phrasing but mines are nothing close to what JY or others are coming up with. I can spot the conclusion and premise and I try mixing them together and still ending up missing the point with the pre-phrase

Word around town is that the July exam is going to be one of those exams that LSAC pulls out of the vault from several years ago, so doing PTs 75-83 might not be the best way to prepare for it.

Curious as to how far back yall are going in the PTs?

Personally don't think they're gonna go back too far so I'm doing pts 60-70.

I was thinking about taking the GRE. Not for law school but for potential joint degree programs. Is anyone else here studying for the GRE? If so, can you recommend any prep courses? Thanks!

Does anybody have any idea why the answer choice is (a) for this question? I couldn't find an answer so I ended up eliminating all of the answer choices because none of them seemed to make sense. Answer choice (a) seems to strengthen the argument, if anything. Someone please help! Thank you!

Hi everyone,

Does anyone have any advice on how to re-approach logical reasoning questions when you've pretty much did every question and sort of remember the answer? How do you about doing these questions again? I made the mistake of burning through all of them and now I'm studying them again for a retake. I'm kind of worried because people are telling me that I won't improve much since I don't have any fresh new questions that I haven't seen before. Please tell me this isn't true lol

I'm wondering whether I should start foolproofing LG while I am going through the core curriculum for the first time, or whether I should go through the core curriculum first and then begin foolproofing once I'm done? I have seen conflicting responses to this question, so I would really appreciate some feedback on what the best approach is. Thanks!

I took the past Dec and Feb test to squeeze into this past cycle. Did ok but knew I left so many points and law schools on the table.

I decided to retake the LSAT in July. I feel waaaay more prepared this time. However, because full refunds are offered to July takers who keep their scores, I decided to sign up for the Sept LSAT as insurance. It was only intended as insurance for if something weird happened on my July LSAT day, I'd have another option to take it and still apply early. If July went well, then I'd just cancel Sept and get a full refund (not just the $50).

But knowing even a difference of 2 extra points could have a huge impact of schools and financial aid, I'm now just thinking of taking it in regardless of what happens in July (although a 172 or higher I would cancel). This would mean taking it a 4th time vs. a 3rd time. However, at this point I don't think there is a real difference, especially if I could do better. Am I wrong to think this? Thanks.

Hi all, just feeling a little frustrated today. I'm taking the July LSAT, and today's PT came out 3 points lower than my last one. I also haven't been doing as hot on some other sections in the past few days.

Part of me knows that it's just an off day, and these things fluctuate, and it's about the overall picture, not the individual data points. But at the same time, I'm feeling really annoyed and frustrated. How do you all get back from off days like that? Or, alternatively, should I actually be concerned?

I just finished a first draft of my personal statement. Would anyone be willing to take a look and provide some feedback? I would really appreciate it. I don't mind swapping essays.

Thanks!

US News and Business currently ranks GW Law 22 I believe; it’s not a t14 but is GW Law still a good law school? I’m an undergrad here and got into a masters program awarded by the law and business school

For anyone who has taken a video of themselves doing a time LSAT, how do you transfer such a large file from your phone to your computer so that you can view the footage in detail? I tried uploading to YouTube but it's forcing it to be 240p since it's such a large file.

Anyone have a better method for iPhone?

After finishing the CC and taking various separate sections over the course of June, I took my first full timed test today and hit a 160. I went -17 LR, -7 games, -5 RC (the test had a -14 curve luckily) With my target score being a 166, what is the likelihood of me hitting this by the July 23 test? Also, any recommendations on how I should best approach this goal? Thanks for the insight.

If I don't go forward with a certain school after applying to it or don't pursue with their application, does it hurt to apply to the same school again for next year? Will they still offer scholarship if I get same or higher marks on LSAT since I had not pursued with their application and waited to apply in the next cycle?

Can someone who has experience with admissions reply!

I appreciate your help in this!

Thanks

I think this is a necessary assumption question. Correct me if I'm wrong please!

Summary of stimulus:

Context:

In the EU, schoolchildren do daily calisthenics during school.

In North America, schoolchildren rarely do daily calisthenics during school.

Premise:

Tests show that North American children are weaker, slower, and shorter-winded than European children.

Conclusion:

North American schoolchildren can be made physically fit -> North American schoolchildren do daily calisthenics

Notes:

Reading the ACs:

A) Children -> can be made physically fit by daily calisthenics. This should be crossed out since we don't need ALL children to be made physically fit when our conclusion is just about North American children. Is there another reason to eliminate A?

B ) Children -> can be made equally physically fit by daily calisthenics; I don't know if the children have to be made equally physically fit. They just need to get to a level where they are physically fit. Wrong.

C) We are concerned about physical fitness in this argument, not about health. Wrong.

D) This says school calisthenics are a necessary factor in EU children's physical fitness--this is what the author assumes.

E) We don't care about the children eating more nutritious diets/exercising daily--we care about calisthenics! Wrong.

Am I writing the conditionals in A and B wrong? I originally picked A because I thought it would guarantee the conclusion--which is wrong to do bc this isn't an SA question. Is A wrong for additional reasons that I've listed above?

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Hey guys!

So I'm worried that I may have not done well on the June 2018 lsat, but I didn't cancel. I really do want to see how I did. If I study and significantly improve on the November 2018 LSAT, does anyone know of a really bad past test score negatively affecting admission into a tier 2 law school like St Johns or Brooklyn? I know a lot of people are saying that I should have canceled, but wouldn't the law schools like to see a significant improvement to showcase your willingness to work harder and not give up?