Hi y'all! I read your discussion on GRE for application but just wonder what do you all think about whether GRE or LSAT might be better for me. I majored in Biology and had a high uGPA (3.9+). People say STEM majors tend to have an advantage in GRE. What if I take both and apply with a 25th percentile LSAT for Columbia but a high GRE verbal (168-169 out of 170)?

Thanks in advance!

I realize there's likely a bunch of old threads about this, but what are some of everyone's favorite lines from JY? A recent one for me comes from PT 75.1.19.

I just finished the last RC lesson and it just hit me that it's time to kick start PTing, drilling, BRing intensely, and FPing. Idk why but I have such a strange feeling I can't explain?? I've really centered my entire life around this test where on my days off I feel guilty and even in moments where I'm relaxing I feel terrible! Just wondering how you guys cope with all these feelings of excitement, anxiety, and moments of disappointment during the process? Side note, I'm on vacation visiting an uncle in NY and he called me a weirdo for skipping a day of exploring to study for the LSAT. No joke.

#help

I was wondering if anyone could provide/explain the general set of rules for this statement: Nothing that one should have desired in the first place fails to be a pleasure.

D: Nothing that one should have desired in the first place

P: Fails to be a pleasure

JY wrote the statements like so (/D -> P), but I was wondering if someone could help explain? I am confused why only one of the statements is negated.

Hey all,

So i hear that recording yourself take a PT is super helpful and highly recommended. I have a few questions that I think I have some answers (recording helps with pacing, etc.) but I would love to hear everyone else's thoughts/advice.

i also think some previous threads touched on some of these thoughts. if you could reply with any threads you think are relevant, that'll be super helpful too!

Thanks all!

I foolproofed every game from PT 19-38. Then I shifted my focus to Logical Reasoning and I've found I'm slower than I was at the height of my foolproofing. Will this speed come back if I incorporate a LG section into my prep every day? I suppose I'm worried I might regress while studying for LR and RC.

Hey everyone, I was looking for some guidance from the "more experienced" users of the website. Is it worth learning the logical structures of arguments? Rather, perhaps I mean to say, identify the structure of the argument."

If P then Q

Q

Therefore P

If P then Q

P

Therefore Q

I understand how understanding structure may aid in identifying the validity of the argument, but does anyone "actually" find themselves identifying the argument structure for anything else?

I'd like to also extend my question to fallacies as well.

Has anyone found the automatisation of these useful in their studies for the LSAT. . . or . . . believe they would have been useful to know while actually writing the test?

Regards,

Lucas

For the last couple of timed section practices I've changed my strategy from finishing the section to focusing on each question. I'm not worrying about spending too much time on a question. I just spend what time I need to really understand the stimulus and answer choices, no skipping. I've only done this a couple times for LR sections so I don't have much data, but so far I've seen no substantial difference in score. The difference is in the pattern of my wrong answers. They used to be pretty evenly spread through out the section and were generally due to misreading the answer choices. For the latest two, all my wrong answers come at the end. It was really satisfying and empowering putting down around18 happy faces in a row even though the rest were sad faces.

I know ideally we ought to want speed and accuracy for this test but I'm interested in what ya'll think about one or the other. For me, my main issue is misreading right now so it seems logical to work on being meticulous.

Thoughts?

Of course, I plan to print out/BR PT 36-83, but I was curious about what is the best use for PTs 1-35 since many of the questions have already been taught.

Hello all,

I was looking for another person to review with/give advice on "Why X School?" statements. At this time I have written two "Why X School?" essays as I've heard that they can be a beneficial component for certain schools.

I tended to emphasize aspects such as regional ties, collegial environment, and programs/student organizations which support my broader career goal. I then showed how these aspects complimented my career goal and would make the school a good fit.

Does this seem to fall in line with what a "Why X?" essay could reasonably include? Would love to get some feedback on what I wrote here or by reviewing essays with another.

Thanks all,

Hope everyone is doing well.

i am taking the LSAT in September for the first time and I need at least a 160. I scored a 145 on my first cold practice test. Is it possible to make that big of a jump in scoring in such a short period of time??

Hello all,

I had a brief question regarding the activities and interests section of a particular application (applying for the upcoming cycle). I'm not sure there's a definitive good answer.

It's a mandatory question that specifically asks for extracurricular/extra professional activities, and for a few specific reasons (would be happy to discuss) I was not able to venture into that area, although I know that's not an adequate excuse. Part of it was during undergrad I commuted to the university which totaled about 4 hours both ways every day to reduce the debt that would have been accumulated by living near my school, so I felt unable to take advantage of various extracurricular opportunities. Another aspect was familial issues among others in my family which I dedicated most of my free time to resolving, although I'm happy to say that has now been resolved.

Given that the section is mandatory, would it be appropriate to write an addendum to explain why this area of my application is lacking? I would and intend to engage in such activities in the future, but as far as the application for this school in the upcoming cycle is concerned, I know it's too late.

I have written a "Why X" for this school in an attempt to bolster my application, but I'm just unsure if not being able to fill in this mandatory "extracurricular/extra professional" section would effectively kill my application for such a competitive school.

Thanks for any assistance/advice,

Everyone in this community has been great.

Hi, June 2018 test in Asia is about 5 days away and I hit a conundrum.

This will be my second LSAT since last June when I decided to finish my Master's thesis first before giving another shot. I wasn't well prepared and test-day anxiety really got me so I scored 158.

Unfortunately, even after studying for a few months, my PT score range is broader than I would want it to be (160-167) and I believe this is largely related to my unstable score in RC section.

Frankly, I ultimately want to aim for 170+ but I know it is definitely not a realistic goal this time around. My BR scores range from 168-175, (which is again, quite broad) but timed-PT always gets me. I panic a lot whenever I see a question that throws me off and have a hard time concentrating on the following questions.

So, what I'm wondering is that if I should go ahead with the June 2018 or cancel the registration and take it in October. Since this is my second time around and my score is not stable, I'm afraid I'll score lower than my usual PT which I believe will look bad. I know getting through the test day/timed-test anxiety is something that you need to kind of get used to but knowing my unstable score, I doubt I'll get over it this time. But again, I hear Law schools would only care about the highest score so I might as well use this opportunity to get over myself with test-day anxiety although it is not a guarantee. There are so many different opinions about multiple LSAT scores and Law school's attitude towards them but I'd like some opinions from you fellow 7-Sagers.

Thanks in advance!

The prep books basically say to identify the premise and move on. However, in my research, I have found different types of premises; suspended premises, explicit and implicit premises, dependent and independent premises and so forth. I'm getting confused and frustrated with the terminology in the different types of claims, statements, propositions, premises. Any words of encouragement? Please help...!!!

Hey- so I just had a session with a tutor, 120 - only books it out in 2 hours ( cad) not usd.

Gave me prepwork a few days before our session in those days I got sick, but still did what he asked for me to do - upon telling him I did 6 games he told me i SAID DO AT LEAST - after I brought his email up during our session. After we finished he said do at least 1 PT leading up to the exam I said ok so you were saying 1 and then I was going to finish my statement to discuss HOW many I would actually be doing he said I said at least 1 man you really need me to write least in 72 size font.

During the session he kept pausing for long bits even though I clearly explained I didn't know what the answer was.

Another thing - when we booked the session I said can we do it later I'm used to a later schedule ( due to some things ) then when he wanted me to book at 9am next week I said that's too early for me personally- hes like I'm not asking you to wake up at 5 am you really need to adjust your sleep ... told him I'm working on getting up earlier - keep in mind this lsat takes place at a later time.

Switch tutors ( give recommendations below) or am I over reacting , ( tbh the whole back handed comments are unprofesh to someone you are paying to teach you/gave me really uneasy feelings-not about the test about himself)

Hi, first post here!

I am taking the LSAT in September, and have been studying for a couple of months now. Currently, my highest PT score has been a 158. My goal is most definitely 170s.

On my last PT, I got a 157, with a -7 LR, -11 LG, -7 RC and -3 LR. I haven't really studied LG much and haven't studied RC at all. as evidenced by my score. I've been focusing on LR thus far, and have improved my scores a decent amount. I'm also further encouraged just because 6 of the 7 LR questions I got wrong on the first one I had to guess because I ran out of time. On the second LR section, I had to guess on 2. So I'm just working hard on getting my time a lot quicker.

I'm studying around 5-6 hours a day, 5 days a week, and then a PT once a week.

I am enrolled in the PowerScore in-class program, which starts July 17. I wanted to improve my score as much as possible up till then.

Any suggestions for studying, etc.? I've used the PowerScore Bibles so far, with 7sage YouTube stuff for further clarity. Should I be taking more PT's? Should I be studying less? Should I focus on LG for a bit?

Just wanted a bit of direction in regards with this.

I don't write this to brag but I just wanted to share because I'm so happy. I just took my first post-CC practice test and scored a 154 after initially scoring a 141 on my diagnostic. I began using 7sage in late January. It's far from my goal score, which is 170, but I'm confident I can hit it by November. Now it's time to foolproof games and drill!

Hey everyone hope everyone is doing well.

Wanted to get some feedback on how many days/hours per week I should be prepping for july ( I'm open to retaking in sept) but at most Nov 2018.

Currently registered for the july lsat.

Right now I'm putting in about 5 hours a day give or take - 6 days a week approx.

If I do any more will I burn out ? I've done about 6 PT's , went through CC multiple times, currently going through LR and planning on hiring a tutor for LG. Aiming to do about 2pts per week. After Pt's I review them as well.

My pt's range ( after prep) from 148 (lowest ) to 152 highest

Target score pref 155 , but Ok with 150 and above.

Additionally, how did you all balance between the sections to make sure you were giving them all enough attention.

Hey Everyone,

I've been studying these last few weeks with aspirations of taking in September. After working through about a month, I feel as though what I have to do every week with the sections of the course is too strenuous that I'm burning out and struggling to find the time to PT and blind review which is essential. I've taken the LSAT two previous times both scoring in the low 150's and I really don't want to rack up the times I've taken the test and look bad for admissions. Should I hold off to take in November to allow the time to digest the course along with doing my PT and blind review so I'm more prepared or should I take in September and November and just try my best to meet this September deadline.

Thank you in advance everyone for your help!!

Help! Any recommendations and how was it?

I’m specifically looking for people who have double majored in graduate school, doing Law School along side pursuing a Mastors from the same institution, are there any 7sagers who fit this description?

Hi everyone from 7sage.

I plan to apply next year, not this one, to law schools.

I started studying for the LSATs in late January with diagnostics of 152.

Now it's been roughly 5 months studying almost everyday.

Since I'm taking the exam outside the US, it is this week sunday, 24 June.

But I am wondering if I should take this upcoming exam.

I am averaging 163 in my recent 3-4 preptests. My initial goal and it is still a 170+ score.

I know it is very unlikely for me to get a 170 this time as it is way higher than my preptest.

And I plan to only give it another shot in October. So I thought it would be better to experience the real exam this time round, at least and see how I do in a real exam. But I have read so many blogs and whatnot saying it is strategic to cancel the exam if I am not ready for the score I want.

So please, any advice on this is appreciated. Should I not take this upcoming exam?

Thanks!

I have heard that a sample of the test is released 90 days before you are suppose to take the exam. Is this true? If so, how do you access it? I am already registered for the September 2018 LSAT.

So I took the LSAT last Monday, and I am fairly confident I got the score I wanted. I thought I would be able to relax once the test was over, but I seem to be just as anxious as ever, if not more. At this point I don't know what I dislike more: studying for the LSAT, taking the LSAT, or waiting on the score. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hey 7sagers! So question..Am I considered URM?

I was born in Cuba. I'm currently a permanent resident alien. Both my parents didn't go to college, making me a zero/first generation student.

I keep reading back and forth about what certain law school consider URM

Some say and that it depends on the school

Others say its strictly only Blacks, Native Americans, and Puerto Ricans.

I'm asking because according to LSAT calculators, whether I am or not, could mean a 20% increase in my chances at being admitted. Although I'm shooting for the highest possible LSAT score, this would be a pretty significant blow.

Also side question... What does that AA in AA URM stand for?