Hey folks... I keep thinking and re-thinking my decision here. My original goal was to take the December LSAT, get my apps in by mid-December so they could be reviewed ASAP in the new year. Well, life happened and here I am, January 11 and still working on finishing my PS.

I did better on the LSAT than I thought I would so that made me think I definitely should apply this year. But now that we're getting to be relatively late in the cycle, I'm thinking I'd be better positioned if I delay. I could of course still get apps out for this cycle and cross my fingers. I'm going to be very dependent on scholarship money though so I'm worried that it won't be enough to make this year work. The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning toward delaying, whether or not I apply this cycle. I ended up with a really good LSAT (168), but I think if I kept studying and took it again like in September, I could likely break 170. Is that worth pushing school back a year? Also I'm non-trad, 33 years old. So while I'm already wayyyy past the usual age of law school students, I'm hesitant to push it back another year. But I guess whether you're 37 or 38 at graduation is tomato-tomahto. Yeah?

Does anyone have experience in re-applying? Do many schools look down on applying twice in a row? If I turn down an acceptance for this year and re-apply, will I be any more likely to get dinged or WL'd?

Poll attached with the options I'm considering.

The topic is roughly: how I've spent half of my life in the US and half in Asia. I had different "personas" in each place, and I made some choices that I regret that were made based off of those personas. The essay ends with me talking about how I can now be me regardless of context.

I've written a couple rough drafts, and I'm fairly pleased with the essay.

I'm not completely sure if it addresses diversity though.

What does you guys think?

Thanks in advance

Is it true that the June LSAT has the most unforgiving curve?

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I watched a explanation video but I still have few questions about this game. I have questions for #9 and #10.

For #9, I was choosing between A and B

For #10, I was choosing between C and E

Can somebody explain to me why some of the answer choices violate the rule? Most answer choice were incorrect because it leads to a violation of the RF block. But if you place it right, you can also avoid the RF block.

For example, #9 A. 1 on both J and 4 on F and H. I

I placed it like this below:

J F H R

J F R H

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-46-section-4-game-2/

Is it just me, or is the LSAC webpage a pain to navigate? I can't for the life of me find how to get LOR's submitted. I read somewhere on here that you can email a link to the person you want to write it. I have had no luck finding said link...

Did anyone else get an invitation to a YLS video webinar? Unfortunately I did not see the email invite until after the fact because it went to my spam folder (whyy would that happen?! It’s YLS!!)

But anyways, I’m curious as to what I missed out on.

Best!

:)

Hoping to swap D.S.'s or get some feedback

Message me if you can

Thanks

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Hi,

I've seen many posts about skipping and pacing strategy, especially those where ppl say they skip and fix their mistakes in the last 10 min in any LR section. But I've also heard some ppl only give themselves 30 min per section to mimic the test day anxiety.

But should I rather give myself full 35 min, instead of 30min, if I am trying to practice the skipping and fixing strategy?

What do you guys think?

Do you restrict BR to only the LR sections? Or BR more, or all?

Hey all,

Long time lurker here. Now that I am almost done with apps, I figured that it would be nice to give back to the community for once.

So, my background:

Took the LSAT in September, got a score in the mid 160s

Was left with only Preptest 82 and Preptest C2 for my December LSAT

After I received my September scores, I was scared - I mean, I have literally used pretty much every single preptest (except for those two mentioned and yes, I managed to get my hands on the so called unreleased ones as well), and I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to have the necessary practice for the December LSAT.

Guess what? It has been said many times before, but I will say it again - reusing preptests works.

The difference between how I prepped my September LSAT and the December LSAT was that I spent the bulk of my time writing explanations. This might not work for you, but it worked for me - I began to see patterns and if you can explain something in your own words, chances are good that you would know how to tackle something similar to it.

Anyways, on to the day itself. I am not a good standardized test taker, and I freaked out for the logic games section as I was unsure of how to proceed with the first logic game. That said, I looked at it for 2 minutes and I moved on. Probably saved me as I went back later and it was actually a really simple game. Finished the section with 5 minutes remaining. I ran out of time for the logic games section on the September LSAT, and a large part of that was down to NOT SKIPPING GAMES when it is time to move on. So, I would say that skipping is key, and I know that that is something that JY says in his logic games videos a lot, but please, do yourself a favor - skip when necessary!

Phew, long post, but if you made it this far, thanks for hearing me out. I will answer questions on this thread if you guys have any, and for those of you taking the LSAT, good luck and remember to take out the trash (LSAT, I am looking at you)!

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Hi all!

So I've been drilling LG for a while now and I figured I would start a thread where people can post little 'tricks' or things the LSAT commonly puts on LG that you can look out for/practice getting into the habit of. This is probably more for people who have been struggling with LG like I have~

Oftentimes I missed these inferences or tricks, or just didn't even think to look out for them, but with practice, time and noticing the patterns, I have been getting a lot better!! I had a lot more written down but I lost the sheet lol so hopefully I can add more when I find it.

Here are some of the things I've written down:

• When making inferences in in/out games, take note of the inferences that can be made from distributions as well, not just the stated rules; i.e. the gemstone game (https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-33-section-4-game-3/) where it says 6 in, 4 out; you are able to make a lot of inferences from this later on in the game

• Check to see if an introduced rule would not only trigger in-game inferences but would trigger a new, unspoken rule (i.e. in the gemstone game, 2S -> 1R paired with the distribution allows us to trigger a new rule 2S -> 3T)

• Always look for not both & or rules in in/out games, makes inferences a lot easier

• In sequencing games, block sequences i.e. [MKM] will likely only have a few places they can safely go, and will often trigger an inference or the ability to split the game board up so look out for how they will affect your setup

Some of the game setups I have come across often are:

• Circular (misc)

• Sequencing or double layered or triple layered sequencing

• In/out game

• In/out game with categories (i.e. selecting 'in' from multiple groups)

• Chart games (often a good setup for when the game pieces can choose multiple variables i.e. the showroom & cars game https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-35-section-3-game-2/)

• Grouping games

Please share things you have noticed or would find helpful for others!! :)

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So working full time and not being able to study as much as I want is not only getting to me physically (I'm tired all the time) but emotionally - I find myself losing momentum during the week because work takes over and I'm slowly feeling like my law school dreams are impossible. I really want to go to a T14- preferably a T-7 but this process seems so impossible, sometimes I feel like giving up and just trying to get into SMU down the road (which is not a bad school just not what I envision for my journey). I'm really trying not to give up here but it's getting harder and harder :(

Just got an email from WUSTL requesting a Skype interview. Any advice? My interview is this Friday the 12th.

I have read in a reddit post that law schools know how often you have checked the status checker, as the poster claimed he or she received an email tell them not to worry so much about the status and that they will be emailed a response with due time. Is this common? Also, for some schools I only found out today that I became under review, with no email notification. I sent those applications only a week before. Is this common and when should I expect to hear a decision.

Does someone mind reading my quick blurb for Columbia's "fun facts" optional section? It's only ~1,000 characters but I'm shooting for a relatively more relaxed vibe & want to know if it's coming across effectively.

Thank you!

For example,

PT 43 S2 Q10

I am trying to examine the stimulus with only logic and try to make sense of AC A.

Acceptance of criticism requires positive response.

A -> PS

Students are more likely to learn from criticism that they are more likely to respond positively. (I paraphrased it)

More likely PS --> More likely to L

SO, can I infer from the above that students are more likely to accept criticism only when students are more likely to respond positively?

More likely A --> More likely PS

becasue

A-->More likely A. One will accept that one criticism only when one is likely to accept that one criticism.

Assuming that one is logical and not some kind of robot programed with random allgorithem.

The same goes with PS. PS --> More likely PS. One will respond positively to the criticism only when one is likely to respond positively to the criticism.

If we chain up the inferrences, we get

A-->More likely A --> PS--> More likely PS--> More likely to L.

And because of the inferrences made above, we can say that one is more likely to learn from criticism when they are more likely to accept the criticism.

A) Students are more likely to learn from crticism that they accept than from crticism they do not accept.

Paraphrase: If one accept a criticism, then one is more likely to learn from it.

A--> More likely to L

if we negate this, then A--> NOT more likely to L. It will contradict with our argument. Therefore, this assumption is necessary.

Another NA I can think of is A->L. When one accept the criticism, one will learn from the criticism.

Please correct me because I am 80% not confident with what I wrote here.

I went to a top 30 liberal arts undergraduate college. Throughout college, I had an undiagnosed learning disability, so my GPA is a 3.42, which I wrote an addendum for. I was really, really hoping to do well on the LSAT to make up for it. Since August, I have been scoring consistently between 173-178 (w/out blind review). I took the June LSAT, cancelled. Took the September and December and just bombed on both days, getting a 167 and 169 respectively. I am also an URM. I applied to almost all my schools before Christmas, but during the holiday break, and have another three to submit. All of the schools I have applied to are in the top 30, the majority in the T14.

Should I wait to apply again next cycle? I was already planning on taking the June LSAT to see if I could negotiate scholarship money, but am wondering if I should just put it off another year. I am especially worried with the passing of the new PROSPER act in putting if off another year since I want to pursue public interest. Thank you in advance for any advice!

I've been studying for the LSAT since June and I'm taking the Feb test for a third and final time. I need guidance to a hard core study schedule. Not sure where to begin, honestly. My weak area is LG but, there's definitely room for improvement in LR. Thank you!

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Based off the "declined from a safety" thread, I am actually curious what people think/how you are addressing this in your world.

This whole law school admissions process is so status-conscious. Scores and GPA dictate where you can go and what your career might look like in very real ways. Someone's safety is someone else's dream school. I got into a safety with a killer scholarship (killer enough it's making me reconsider it as an option tbh!) and it's a school a lot of people would be happy to go to but I am unsure that I would go. I also work in a law office right now and am having to be careful because that safety is some of my colleagues' actual law school. I'm a splitter so who knows how it'll turn out but I am hoping to be considering T-14-level offers.

How are you playing this with your friends, colleagues, families, people on messageboards, etc? Any thoughts on this?

Hello,

I'm posting this to get some of you guys' recommendation about the best way to make use of my available time to improve on my LSAT. Since my classes will not start until January 16, I have a lot of time to study for the LSAT.

Just a little background, I'll be taking the LSAT on Feb 10 and I've been averaging around 168 on my PTs. I am aiming to get 173+ on my LSAT.

Here's what I've been doing everyday:

Here's some questions I have:

Should I keep doing one PTs everyday, or is this an inefficient way to improve my score?

So, I know that JY recommends doing at most 3 PTs in a week, but I don't find myself getting burnt out doing one everyday, so I don't see any reason why I should stop doing this if it will help me improve. But I'd like to have some of you guys' opinion on this. I currently still have 20 PTs available to do.

How to improve my LR section? I currently average around -2 to -4. Should I just continue to do many many questions and review?

For LG, I've been doing the "Fool Proof" method recommended in the curriculum (redo all LGs that I missed, multiple times until I mastered it). I'll also be reading the powerscore LG soon. Any other tips?

How would you approach improving your score if you have a lot of time available?

Thank you very much!