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Thursday, Sep 21, 2017

LSAC GPA

Hey Everyone,

Apologizes if this has already been discussed somewhere but I had a quick question regarding sending transcripts into LSAC. I was wondering when I should send my transcripts to LSAC. If I send them now, will they not factor in the fall semester grades? Is it recommended that I wait until I have those grades in?

Also, on a related note, I was thinking about retaking a class in the winter in order to get a better grade. Just as some background, my high school offered duel enrollment classes and little did I know then that they would count towards my GPA in college. Long story short, I got a B+ in some mandatory health class and it's bringing my GPA down from a 4.0 to a 3.92. Do you think it's worth trying to retake over the winter term?

Thanks a ton!

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Hey so I have this irrational fear of being overlooked in the admission process because I am a Chinese-American who's family is solid middle class (so can't make any great donations and I can't say I have some hero struggle back story either). #chineseadmissiondisadvantage

I have a friend (when applying for undergrad) who had outstanding achievements in high school (like A student, SAT 2400, and national champion in math or something) but really only got into one of her choice schools. She was wealthy too. This story just did not help with my irrational fear.

This irrational fear affects me as I complete my application and I don't know what can I do to cope with it.

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I'm in South Florida and the Sept. 16 test was postponed due to the hurricane. I got an email today saying I could stand-by at an open center (over an hour away) this Saturday the 23rd or I can take it on Oct. 14th at my original center (10 mins away) where I'll definitely have a spot.

Which should I take???

My main concern regards applying asap. To what extent is it advantageous to complete/submit an application on Oct. 12ish vs early Nov. (when I think the Oct. 14th score will come out). I'm afraid my next score won't be high enough, so I want that advantage of applying early. I already have one LSAT score, so I'll at least be starting applications very soon, but can't complete them until I get that second score.

My other concern is the score. My June LSAT was good (162) but not good enough. Over the past 2 months, I've been getting 166-169 on the prep tests from 2011-14. But on the most recent prep tests, since 2015, I'm back down 163-164 average. Its weird because these are actually the ones I had taken most recently prior to the June test. I also noticed this trend when I was studying for the June test. I do feel that the more recent tests are more difficult; on these most recent tests I get way more wrong in LR than usual and for some reason I can't finish the whole RC section which is odd because I usually can.

Anybody else have this experience?

My goal is 164 minimum.

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Hey all, I wanted to do this as a favor for people who have yet to take a real LSAT. Saturday was my 2nd real LSAT. I sat for the September 2016 and September 2017 tests. Obviously one of them is still EXTREMELY fresh in my mind while I've had a year to come to terms with the other. If you have questions on what I did for a the year in-between, how the test feels compared to practice, what the real test day entails, what the real test feels like, or anything else feel free to ask me!!!

I WILL NOT ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SEPTEMBER 2017 TEST*

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Hey all,

I had a question about what someone applying straight out of undergrad should include in their resume. I've worn a lot of hats over my undergraduate career. I was originally Pre-Med, so I worked in two biomedical research labs during my freshman year. After realizing medicine was not for me, I spent a summer interning for an appellate court, and then my sophomore year working at a law school as an assistant event planner. Then my junior year I actually took 9 months off school to work on the presidential campaign.

My campaign work is definitely my biggest job, and the one I had the most "prestige" and "authority" in. It was also the largest commitment - while I worked only 15-25hrs/wk in previous jobs, I was working 80-100hr/wk on the campaign. Consequently, I want to devote more space in my resume to this campaign work.

That being said, what should an undergraduate include in their resume? I know the conventional wisdom is keep your resume to ONE page. Thus, space is a precious commodity. Should you include every job you held in undergraduate, or should you just pick the most important ones/relevant ones? I'm thinking of just removing the research labs from the resume, and only including work on the court onward.

Thanks all,

Paul

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I know LSAC is giving cancelled Florida LSAT takers the chance to switch to December for free, but are they rescheduling the September one? It is not clear on the website. If they are, is anyone just going to wait until they know the reschedule date to decide whether to switch to December? This is so frustrating studying without knowing when the test is :/

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Sorry if this has already been addressed. Does anyone know how much law school admissions weight an applicants undergrad prestige? I'm graduating from a state school thats ranked outside of the top 100. How much would that adversely affect my chances? My GPA is in the 75 percentile for all the schools I'm looking at, and I am waiting on my September LSAT.

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Hi 7sagers! So I'm at a crossroads at the moment. I'm planning on attending law school in Fall 2020 when I'm 26, but I'm studying for the LSAT now and I've taken the most recent June test. I was planning on retaking the test for February 2018 and I've been using 7Sage for the past two months (which is AWESOME btw). I'm also aggressively paying off my student loans right now so I work two jobs. These loans are scheduled to be paid off in August 2018 as of now. I owe less than $18,000 and I started off at $25,311, so it's been working out pretty well.

My question is do you think it would be best if I paused my studying for the LSAT and take the November 2018 test instead so I can focus on paying down these loans faster by taking on a third job. With a third stream of income making at least an extra $100 a week, I think I can make it so I pay off my loans by May 2018. From there, I would study for the LSAT for six more months and take the test in November.

My reasoning behind this is working two jobs and trying to put my all in studying for this test is really tough. My second job is in catering so I often work 12-14 hours on Saturday and by Sunday, I don't want to move let alone study for several hours. Both of my current goals require time and by splitting this time between both of them, I don't feel as if I am optimizing my score as much as I know I can if I have the time to study. Another benefit of working in catering is that I can switch to on call hours where I basically am not scheduled to work unless the company really needs me so I can do that a couple of months before the test. This would allow me to dedicate my Saturdays to the LSAT once I paid off my student loans. Also since I won't be applying to law school until Fall 2019, taking the test in November 2018 wouldn't be too close to the application deadlines.

So what are your thoughts? Do you think this is a solid plan or do you feel like there is any pitfalls that I haven't taken into consideration? Thanks so much for your help!!

fyi: Before 7sage, I got a 153 on the LSAT. However, I have gone through the Logical Reasoning section of CC and my understanding has gotten so much better. I am aiming for a 160, but with a lot of hard work, this course, and blind review, I can surpass that. Thanks again!

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Hi all,

At the risk of embarrassing myself, I wanted to share something I learned. A few nights ago my husband and I had date night at Grapefest - Grapefest is an annual carnival in nearby Grapevine, TX where you can eat deep fried foods and drink wine for hours - I know, heaven right? Anyway, I came home still feeling buzzed from said wine drinking and decided to finish up the remaining 30 minutes of studying I promised to do for the day. I was studying 'Flaw' questions, the hardest of the hard for me, and this problem set happened to be the most difficult of the bunch. In my inebriated state, I started the questions assured I'd be completely off and get them all wrong but a strange thing happened: I was clear, focused and thoroughly understood each question and got all five correct in under 7 minutes.

As I sat there dumbfounded, checking each question (remember Flaw questions are my achilles heel) I realized what the difference was that night compared to my other study nights: I was drunk. And with drunkeness comes zero inhibition. I forgot all the little voices in my head that play negative thoughts when I'm studying :'this is too hard', 'you don't know the right answer', 'you suck at this', and I just studied with zero self-doubt and 100% confidence.

The lesson learned? - Drink a bottle of tequila before studying - just kidding. But find a way to release the self-doubt in your head during this process, it could just be that one thing keeping you from a 180.

*Disclaimer: I do not promote studying while intoxicated. This experience was only relayed to illustrate a point :-P

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As probably many of you are, I'm turning my attention to my apps while I wait for my September lsat score. I've already got a couple things finished, like my resume and one addendum, but for the first time tonight I actually started looking through my target schools' applications to see what they ask for. I'm now a giant ball of stress, and I've got a few questions that I'm hoping some of you can help me on!

  • LORs: Some apps say they require 2 but accept 4, etc. Is it best to max out the allowable LORs or are they really just wanting 2?
  • Diversity Statement: I had planned to write a diversity statement, but after looking through the apps of the 9 schools I'm applying to, only two of them have an option for a diversity statement. So I'm guessing there's no way to submit a diversity statement for those schools that don't have an option?
  • Addendums: I have to write a character and fitness addendum because of a misdemeanor I got in college. I may also have to write an addendum on my lsat scores, seeing that my first score was abysmal, and I'm hoping my recent score will be significantly higher. On some apps, I noticed there's only one addendum option. Is there a limit on how many addendums you can write? Is more than one too many?
  • I'd love any feedback you all can provide. Thanks!

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    Hey Everyone,

    Our first meeting will be on Sep 30, 3 PM EDT. We will be going over PT 74. I am giving myself and everyone who took the September LSAT at least a weekend off, if they would like. So we will not be meeting this coming Saturday, September 23.

    I am posting the link below to the meeting. The requirement for this meeting is to take PT 74 timed - no exceptions. If you have done this PT before, I recommend taking it again as a repeat. Please do not look at the answers or grade the PT before hand. Looking at answers before hand undermines the blind review process both for you and everybody else. I have noticed I learn the most when I have to blind review a PT with someone without knowing what the correct answer is. Also, try to take the PT as close as possible to the meeting date. That way you can remember exactly what you were thinking under time when you took this PT.

    Here is the link to the meeting. Just click the link at the specified date and time and I will see you there.

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    UPDATE: The admissions webinar is up here: https://classic.7sage.com/admissions/webinar/

    The résumé webinar will be there soon.

    7Sagers,

    To help you gear up for the 2017 application season, we’re doing back-to-back admissions webinars.

    →On Tuesday, September 26, at 9 p.m. ET, I’ll give you an overview of the application process, and I’ll include some brand new, never-before-seen material on personal statement mistakes. After the presentation, 7Sage Editors Maura Roosevelt, Clare Sestanovich and I will take your questions.

    :cookie: At the end of the admissions overview webinar, we’ll randomly select one attendee for a free personal statement critique.

    → The next day, on Wednesday, September 27, at 9 p.m. ET, our very own Micah Bateman will host a webinar on that essential but often overlooked component of your application, the résumé. Micah will use actual 7Sage résumés to give you an idea of what works, what doesn’t, and how you can convey your experience most effectively.

    :cookie: At the end of the résumé webinar, we’ll randomly select one attendee for a free résumé critique.

    :warning: In order to join these webinars, you will have to register in advance.

    → Please register for the admissions overview webinar (Sep 26, 2017 9:00 PM EDT) here: https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/2717887576239374337

    → Please register for the résumé webinar (Sep 27, 2017 9:00 PM EDT) here: https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/4239267521942175745

    After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the webinar.

    We hope to see you there!

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    Alright guys, I've been attempting to write my PS off and on for the last 2 months with no measurable progress. I've written two full PS's which I scrapped completely because they were brutally unpalatable. Any suggestions would be tremendously appreciated, especially in regards to topic brainstorming. I have gone through all the 7sage material available to me [Free account :(] and there are a lot of good ideas, but none that have unlocked my inspiration.

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    Hey guys,

    so I have finally finished the CC. YAYYY me. I just completed my first PT after completing the CC and let's just say I was quite anxious. Nonetheless, I was relieved to see an 157 after scoring a 142 on my diagnostic. I know I have a long way to go but let's just say all this studying has paid off so far. My diagnostic honestly had gotten me feeling super unmotivated, but taking this PT has definitely made me feel better.

    I am aiming to write in December with a target score of 168+. Any advice on how I should study? I still need to fool proof LG, since I thought the LG on PT 51 felt like it might have been easier than some of the other LG I have done.

    For the next 10 days, I am going to use the LG fool-proof method and drill down on LR and RC in between. Though I plan to drill LR and RC more once I have gotten LG down.

    How have you guys have been drilling LR/RC or using the LG fool-proof method?

    I feel like I struggle with reading the stimulus and understanding the material when I am being timed for LR.

    In RC, I have done decent on passages but I couldn't finished one entire passage and for one of them I basically created only a low-resolution summary and was lucky enough to answer some of the questions and get them correct (received a 18/28, which is my best so far).

    Any advice is welcome!

    Thanks in advance :)

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    Hey everyone,

    This is my first post here... I've been kind of been hanging out in the 7sage shadows for a couple months now. I'm looking for some advice on how to process and/or handle what happened to me during (and leading up) to test day.

    So my LSAT nightmare started last Tuesday. I was granted accommodations (extra time and a small group setting) in August. On my accommodation letter it had the name and phone number of my supervisor on test day. The letter instructed me to call this individual at least 48 hrs in advance of the test. This letter, as well as my ticket, had Saturday's test date listed on it. I called my supervisor on Tuesday of last week and he informed me that I was in fact writing on Monday (Sept. 18) because that's when he will be acting as supervisor. Ok. Fine. The OSAC information regarding accommodations states that test dates and times can change and that's why you're to report to a supervisor beforehand. The supervisor also informed me that LSAT would not be issuing me a new ticket with Monday's test date since I had been talking to him. Fair enough.

    So Sunday night, the supervisor calls me (at 10:45 pm) and the first thing he says to me is "are you sure you're writing tomorrow"? Cue panic. He assures me everything will be fine and to meet him and my proctor tomorrow in front of a particular building at 8:30 am.

    The first thing I do the morning of the test is lock my keys in my car. I let it go pretty quickly as I was already in LSAT world in my mind. I was determined to not let anything get in between me and this test. So my proctor shows up early (around 8:15 am) and we get to talking. Turns out they were ready to accommodate me on Saturday and even went looking for me/called my name out a bunch of times. Kind of annoying. But oh well... I kept telling myself: I'm here now right? Not going to let this get in my way.

    So the supervisor shows up just after 9 am. The two other students who were writing with me cancelled, and one sabbath observer showed up who they had never even heard of. By the time they tracked him down, got me a room, and basically got their shit together.. it was after 11 am. So there goes all the food and liquid intake I had been planning for optimal performance. Still, I did not let this break me. I was ready for the test.

    The room they stuck me in with the proctor was in probably the busiest building on this college campus and I swear the walls were made of paper. There was constant traffic in the halls... people were blaring music outside. I could literally hear all the conversations going on in the offices surrounding the room. Security was going up and down the halls with they walkies going off. Speakerphone convos were going on right outside the door. It was CONSTANT noise. I couldn't focus on keeping one line of the question stem straight, let alone an entire question.

    Now keep in mind, one of my accommodations is small group setting because distractions can seriously affect my ability to concentrate and essentially remain sane. I tried to fight it but with ten minutes left in my first section (LR1), I cracked. Full blown panic attack. The whole nine. I had answered probably 5 questions by this point but with the distractions it became clear to me that all the breathing exercises in the world weren't going to get me out of this one. It was bad. The proctor stopped the time. Turns out she had been texting with the supervisor trying to get me another room the whole time because of the extreme noise levels.

    By the time they were able to secure me a new and quieter room, it was over an hour later. So post-panic attack and sobbing for about an hour waiting for a room, I was left with essentially doing the whole first section in 10 minutes. I probably guessed about 3/4 of the entire section because of the time constraint. At this point I was ready to walk. But I gave the second section a go.. and I swear that LG section was sent to me from up above lol. It gave me my grove back and I don't feel super horrible about the rest of the test, despite the nightmare that preceded it.

    My issue and question is whether or not I should report this to LSAC. They explicitly say that they will not be responsible for issues with test centres that are out of their control. I'm not super into the idea of cancelling my score because I want to see how I did on sections 2-5 of the test. My biggest fear is having them penalize me for the irregularities. The supervisor said that he will report it all as a formality, but I do not really trust him (for reasons that I think are pretty obvious lol). I'm not going to lie though, I was pretty crushed when I realized that my first section was not experimental. My biggest fear is seeing something like a 140 (or less) appear as my score. I'm just so torn on what to do. I've already signed up for December but I'm just super bummed out because I feel like this could have been avoided. I should have just shown up on Saturday. I'm beating myself up hard over this and I don't know what to do.

    Sorry for the long winded post. Any advice would be much appreciated, just please try to be respectful.

    Thanks!!

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    Hey everyone,

    I wanted to see if anyone had received word about a September makeup for all of us in Florida still waiting to take the Sep. LSAT. LSAC said they would let us know by the end of this week, but I was just wondering if anyone had already gotten word.

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    Wednesday, Sep 20, 2017

    Improving RC

    I am going through the curriculum and get about 1 wrong per passage. I usually complete a passage & its questions under 8.5 minutes. The low resolution summaries have been very helpful but I still get -1 per passage. I am just wondering if my results will improve overtime as I do more RC practices or should I do something else to improve my accuracy?

    What has been the biggest help for you?

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    I've heard a lot of different things about a curve from the test. What exactly is the curve and does it drastically change the score? Anyone have any examples of the curve?

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    Hi!

    I'm based in Manhattan, and I'm interested in starting a study group for the upcoming December 2017 LSAT starting this week. I would like a group of people who already have a grasp of the fundamentals, but anyone is welcome.

    I'll be using materials mostly from 7Sage and Blueprint as well as the Powerscore Bibles. I welcome supplemental materials, if you'd think it would enhance our LSAT prep.

    Please contact me if you are interested, and I'll reply as soon as I can.

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    I was curious about what the curve on the September LSAT would be. I began searching through recent tests to see if a test with easy LG ever had a -11 curve. Both 78 (-11 curve) and 76 (-12 curve) had their LG difficulty listed as "easiest" (1/5). This struck my as strange, because to me these games are more difficult than 81 which has its LG section listed as "easier"( 2/5). Are the ratings just assigned by someone or are they the result of averaging user's scores?

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    Hey everyone,

    This post is just to see if anybody will be interested in this first. I will be going over PT's in 70 plus series only. We are going to try out a new way to do PT schedule. Instead of a 3 month set PT schedule we will be more flexible. When we review a PT, then I will assign which PT we will do next. I am looking to do this on Saturdays.

    Let me know if any of you will be interested. :)

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