I am BRing 172-174 (my target score), but on my timed PTs, I am scoring between 159-163. There's about a month left till the June LSAT. I have registered for it, but re-considering if I should take it yet, or wait till September.

The thing stopping me from taking it in September is I have kids who will be home during the summer break, which means I will barely get quiet time to study for the next couple of months. And, I will start working in August too. However, for the next month I have no work, and kids in school, meaning about 5-6 hours of study time everyday till June 11.

I guess, my question boils down to, how long does it usually take for people to get from their actual score to their BR score? What are some strategies (feel free to suggest webinars or discussion links) that I can use to increase accuracy in timed condition?

Apparently, LSAC just instituted fee increases and they are bananas. LSAT is now $190, test center and date change fees are $125, CAS registration is $195 and the doozy - CAS reports are now $45 (up from $35).

https://www.lsac.org/jd/applying-to-law-school/lsat-cas-fees?view=1

I am a little confused about questions in which a scientist/critic/psychologist/whatever will state their opinion on something, often giving context and then their own argument. Then the question stem will ask "The scientist's argument proceeds by..."

A good example of this is Question 20 from PT 68 section 3. I missed this question in timed conditions and in BR, seemingly because I just misunderstood what it was asking me to look for. I took "proceeds by" to mean what comes before the actual argument, so the context, and I selected answer choice E, even though JY just breezes past this one in the explanation video. Now I see that my brain tricked me into thinking the question was actually "precedes by" rather than "proceeds by."

I am certain I have come across similarly worded questions before, though I don't think they are super common. When I do encounter these questions, are they just asking me about the structure of the argument ?

In the order the stimulus presents info (this may be way off):

CTX - Proposals to bring US inline with rest of the world are met with objection that it would violate US tradition

C --- The objection that curtailing US school's summer vacation would violate tradition misses the mark

P --- US schools only closed because harvests needed child labor

Extra info (? unsure) --- A policy change justified by those appeals to tradition are determined by needs of the economy

Which principle if accepted justifies the conclusion?

(a) Social needs are irrelevant. Eliminate

(b) No appeal to tradition excuses a country from getting in line with legitimate expectations of the rest of the world. If it didn't say "legitimate expectations of the rest of the world" I'd think this is good but European and Japanese expectations are never mentioned

(c) masking real issues isn't in stimulus. Eliminate

(d) traditional principles should be discarded when they no longer serve the economy. If this said 'practices' instead of 'principles' I'd think it was perfect but we are not trying to change the principles of the past just the school years practices so we can eliminate

(e) actual tradition of a practice can only be identified by original reasons that prompted the practice

I got this wrong and struggled during BR only making progress through process of elimination, now I see that answer choice (E) connects the last sentence of the stimulus to what I identified as the conclusion. But now I'm thinking that the last sentence is the main conclusion and I've muddled up my own thinking.

Can someone help me identify each part of the argument better and flush this out? #help

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Ink is so expensive. For fool proofing LG, how many copies do you print out? I heard about this method an earlier member posted about for proofing LG that saved a lot of paper, does anyone know what I am talking about?

Thanks

Just got into Davis with $10,000/year. I would LOVE to go there. But I'm so scared of taking on that much debt. Stuck between there and a much better financial offer (basically no debt at all) at a very low ranked school. Any advice would be helpful

I am just trying to get an idea, how many games should someone do a day?

Is anyone else using this? I kind of want to see what others think of it, and I know it's a really small beta so this may be a shot in the dark but....yeah anyone want to chat about this?

My situation involves the following:

I have had hesitation asking for my application to be held for review by the Admission Council until I take the June LSAT. This is because by the time that my scores are released and my application is reviewed, it will likely be July. This gives me a short period of time to move from Little Rock and get things squared away so that I am able to attend and do my best as a student.

However, I have been advised to proceed with my application being held for my June LSAT score to be reviewed in July.

The problem is, I won't know ANYTHING until July and orientation / school starts in August.

I really don't want to stay in Little Rock another year. I am ready to go to law school, and see something else for a change. So, If I am accepted to either of those, I fully intend to move. It's a quick turn around but it is doable.

I feel like this is a waiting game and July is a cloud of doom. Am I doing everything right? Has anyone else been in a similar situation? Does anyone have words of encouragement for this situation? I am worried that I wont be able to make the score (150-155) that the schools are looking for.

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Hey, all! So I have sort of a weird question.

Right now I'm in my last semester of university and I'm currently working two jobs while going to class full time. While I love my jobs, there are a lot of downtime in between them where I'm stuck with nothing to do. Since I can't exactly have my laptop with me or any real studying sources (it will look like I'm not working), is there some way to still "practice" the LSAT somehow? Thank you, all!

Hey there! I think I need some direction.The first time I took the LSAT I made a 144. I am registered to take the test again in June. I am studying every day in May and hope to get my score up one or two points at least.I bought the $180 corse in 7sage, and have only done some of it. But I just took a practice test to see where I stood. I digressed. Because time is limited, are there any sections I should specifically zoom in on before I try my text practice test? Any advice on where I should devote my time?

Thanks for any #help!!

Khloe

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Hi all,

I finished the CC a little while ago and I score a 172 (178 BR) on my first PT after finishing the CC. That was very encouraging because my goal is 175. However, I haven't been able to replicate those results since. I've scored a 161 (174 BR), 163 (167 BR), and 166 (172 BR).

I know that I haven't taken many PTs yet, but I'd like to take the June test, and these latest results are making me a tad nervous.

Is this just a matter of continuing to take PT's and BR'ing carefully?

Can someone who's dealt with a similar situation let me know how they dealt with it?

Thanks so much to anyone who can give me some advice.

I am about to begin purchasing books for my 1L classes. I have noticed that many books are available in E-book format. Which format would be better for law school, paperback or E-book?

June'18 Study Group | Blind Review PT 76 | Tuesday, May 8th | 7:30 pm EST

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I hope you're ready or gearing up to start PTing for the June 2018 LSAT. Join us this Tuesday if you are finished with the CC.

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For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.

Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.

These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).

The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.

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Hi all:

So I'm currently experience a bit of a loss of a sense of direction, post (completing) the core curriculum. I finished about a month ago and immediately began fullproofing afterwards. I definitely think it's helped a lot, especially with getting me more comfortable with LG (my weakest section). I took a break from FP a week ago in order to dodge burnout, and began reviewing LR lessons from CC in preparation for PT'ing. I'm planning to officially kickoff PT'ing this weekend. In your experience, would you say where I'm headed is a good idea, or, would you recommend I do otherwise---if so, please share. (*Note: I haven't taken any PT since completing the CC and FPing for ~ a month)

Thanks in advance!

Hello Everyone,

I realize when I read that my mind is on everything else but what I'm reading. I would read the RC passage and then noticed that I picked up on bits and pieces. How do you all combat that?

Fellow 7Sagers,

I’m in a rut and would appreciate any advice/input on how to best go about studying for the LSAT as well as deal with other issues (see below).

Plan of attack

I thought that if I started studying for the June LSAT in February I would be fine . . . until I actually started studying for the LSAT. My original plan was to start with the Trainer in February, take a face to face course that would lead up to the exam, take the exam, score in the high 160’s and be on my way to the school of my dreams . . . I clearly didn’t know what I was doing or thinking.

I’ve since adjusted my plan of attack to something more realistic. Currently, I am holding off on finishing the 7Sage CC since I started the in-person course, but plan on revisiting and finishing after I take the exam in June. I was hoping to start doing PT’s with the September group, but think that I should join the December or February group instead. Thoughts?

Diagnostic test

I started studying with the LSAT Trainer a few months ago, took a diagnostic test under non-test day conditions (in a coffee shop w/ distractions) and finished each section within the allotted time. I did poorly, but I finished. I stopped using the trainer and switched to 7Sage a few days later and started the CC. All was great, but I stopped at weakening arguments and decided to take a break since the in-person prep course I signed up for was two weeks away. I started the course this past Saturday, took another diagnostic under test day conditions, and did horrible! Although some of the sections were easier to understand because I covered them in the CC, I did not finish all the sections in time, did not guess on questions I wasn’t able to get to, and found myself overanalyzing everything. J.Y. said something early in the course that really stuck with me and it is that honesty is the best policy if you want to perform well on this test. I figured that it was in my best interest to save the guessing for test day, review only what I did answer, and learn what I don’t know. Is that the right approach?

Bad days

Who do you vent to after a bad PT or study session, excluding 7Sagers, and how do you get back on track mentally? Is there an LSAT emotional support group that I should know about?! Lol

Thank you all in advance for your willingness to help.

Best,

K

Does anyone here know any good tricks/skills I should develop as a tactile learner for the LSAT? I know I need to take a lot of breaks, and honestly resetting often helps me focus on my objective, however, besides that and flash cards, which I still have to memorize, are there any other tricks you all recommend?

Hi everyone -

I am waiting to hear back from one school. The status of my application has been listed as "decision pending" since March 11th. This seems like a long time (maybe it is not - I am also getting anxious), and I am wondering if I don't hear back by the end of this week if it is appropriate to send a LOCI? I have read conflicting advice on sending a LOCI to schools that you have not heard back from. Any input is appreciated. Thanks!

Hi guys,

Can anyone explain why the answer choice (c) is the correct answer? It's hard to see why this has to be the case when logs already have each ring representing one year. With this fact, it's already possible to know how old these logs are so why do we need this information?

Thank you!

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So I learned not long ago that LSAC counts all the grades you have ever received. I spent two years at a CC and then transferred over to an university. During my time at the CC, I didn't do so well due to familial circumstances (3.2). Three years later, I am graduating in June with two majors and a minor at a 3.9 GPA. If LSAC counts everything, I'm very afraid that lowers my GPA down to a 3.6 or 3.7 and I'm feeling awful right now knowing that my chances at T10 have been basically dashed due to that rough time in my life. Does anyone have any advice to share?

After about 1.5 years of studying and working FT, I've managed to get average of -3/-4 in every section, consistently. (RC :-4, LR: -3/-4, LG: -4). Averaging around 166/167 and hoping to hit 170 by July. I fool proofed games from PT 15-35 and have taken PT36 - PT 83 at least once each. I don't really believe PT 15 and below hold much value, as the test has changed so drastically since 1995, but I may be mistaken. What is the best plan of attack for increasing my score by those last few points? Any advice and recommendations are greatly appreciated!

I've been thinking of upgrading to Ultimate Plus after finishing the CC. What did you guys do?

I applied this year but did not get the results/LSAT score I was hoping for. I was thinking about quitting my job so I can full focus on the LSAT. I currently work at a consulting firm focused on litigation and the hours and the amount of networking/office politics is exhausting.

My question is, if I quit, would that look terrible on my resume when I reapply? I was here for two years, and was at a finance firm for a year before that. What do yall think? Am I overthinking?