LR Tutoring with Sage Josh
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So what will be going down in these meetings and what do you need to do to prepare?
These classes are a live, Sage guided forum to help address whatever it is you're studying within LR. We'll use older tests to work through questions, discuss question types, break down argument structures, and analyze answer choices. We'll also talk general LR strategy and pacing. To prepare, just use whatever portion of the week's homework that is relevant to your current studies.
This week's homework: PT 35 Logical Reasoning
LR Tutoring with Sage Josh - PT 35
Monday, August 21, 7:30 PM EDT
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Hey guys, having some technical difficulties. Will post with updates as I figure this out. Sorry for the delay!
Hey everyone, I'm really sorry but I'm not going to make it tonight. My dog, Mandy, died this afternoon and I need to take some time. She lived a very long, very healthy, and very happy life; even under the best of circumstances though, it's never easy. The room will still be open for you all to review, and I've made sure that there will be some great high level LSATers there to help guide the process. Have a good session, and I'll see y'all next week.
Alright, good news everyone! It took a partial lobotomy of my operating system, but after spending my entire day yesterday working on it, my computer is fixed! Thanks for the patience!
So, we talked about a few things I was supposed to post about, so I'm going to do my best to remember what those were. After working on my computer all day yesterday, I feel like my computer was not the only one who got a partial lobotomy yesterday, so remind me if I forgot anything!
Update 1: New time! In order to better accommodate the East Coast/West Coast rivalry, we'll be starting at 4:30 Pacific time! I'll let you East Coasters figure that out! (Nah, kidding, we all know y'all don't know how to do it- 4:30 Pacific is 7:30 Eastern.) If people need to come in late or leave early, that is perfectly okay, so no worries there!
If you are on the West Coast and there is a particular something you want to go over, post it in the chat and we will make sure to work on different things until you can get here.
Update 2: I think the other thing was that I'm supposed to find out about doing some footage. I'm getting on that today, and will update when I know. If nothing else, we can definitely use the diagnostic test, so may throw that into the rotation soon!
I have to be that guy who asks if this will be recorded and provided for later viewing.
I'll be there!!!!!!
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@jhaldy10325 said:
PT 35 is as far as I'm taking it, but will restart. Taking the next few weeks off as I prepare for the Sept Test and will restart probably first week of October.
That's exactly what I was hoping for :) Awesome-ness
I would say good luck with your Sept take, but I can honestly say I don't think I've ever known anyone as ready to humiliate this test as you are right now!
Hey guys, I just updated the title and body of the post to hopefully make it more immediately clear to everyone exactly what this is and what they need to do beforehand. For all the regulars out there, it will be the same format as before, so just keep doing what you've been doing. See you guys tomorrow!
@jkatz1488955 You started PT 27 or turned 27? Congrats either way!
Thanks for the great session everyone, I found it very helpful.
@jhaldy10325 I'm really sorry to hear about your loss, Josh... rest in peace Mandy.
pretty excited about this... I have been holding off on burning the PT tests for when I decided to take the test and I am just anxious to see where I am testing now... but until the Sept study group is official I am just going through the CC because even though I have completed it I am still falling for traps... freaking LSAC.
Hey guys, long time. OK So now that I am OFFICIALLY registered for the Sept LSAT (gasp it got real now) I need to know how this works cause I am so in on Monday... Do I need to take the text and we discuss it??? Sorry bit out of the loop here but it is time to crank up my study time and this sounds like a bueno opportunity :)
Glad you got your 'puter working!
Please reiterate to attendees, "No spoilers please" when someone is struggling with ACs.
It's perfectly acceptable to jump in to help with the question, or sharing one's experience/thought processes one may have struggled with is certainly appreciated, but please don't say what the answer is!
@bergeronmark58 You don't need to do anything in particular, but many of us use the PT being covered that week for our prep. Some people take the PT under timed, test day conditions, others drill it to pieces -- both are fine for the purposes of these sessions. In fact, even if you've never seen the PT before, you could still benefit because we do the questions live.
@jhaldy10325 said:
(Just kidding, of course. Buffalo was never any good.)
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Cool idea!
@twssmith644 said:
To be clear, it is the logical reason section of prep test 34 tomorrow at 730 eastern?
Today @ 7:30 EST.
Hey, had a follow up question in PM that I thought was a really great question, so wanted to post my reply here as well for anyone who may be interested.
From PT 33.1.22. https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-33-section-1-question-22/
Answer choice B is attempting to exploit what I more broadly call the problem of knowledge (Knowledge is just a common incarnation of a much larger set of words that logically abstract the subject.) Here, it's "want" rather than "know" but the principle is always the same and frequently interchangeable.
So an argument that would express the flaw B is talking about would look something like this:
Congleton hired really terrible artists.
The hiring of really terrible artists would ensure the project would fail.
Therefore Congleton wanted the project to fail.
Do you see how "want" is problematic here? What if Congleton is just really incompetent? We know in this argument that Congleton took action which will result in the failure of the project, but how can we draw a conclusion about their motives? We see this a lot and we can use this example to plug in a lot of different applications: knowledge, belief, expectation, etc:
Therefore Congleton knew the project would fail
Therefore Congleton believed the project would fail
Therefore Congleton expected the project to fail.
Answer choice B (assumes Fail ---> Congleton wanted it to fail) bridges the gap between the consequences of the actual argument and what Congleton wanted, thus accounting for the abstraction.
So any time you see one of these words pop up, be aware of the nature of the abstraction. I can almost promise you the writers will be exploiting it.
Well, something came up and I have an important errand to run tonight. Caved and did 33 by myself with great results, will be glad to join next week though!
We'll be glad to have y'all. @alexmedley502 , if you're a little late, it's no problem. Join when you can!
Thank you! Looking forward to this.
@826042 said:
Sorry! just trying to understand. Do we complete an old full practice test timed, lets say PT31, and then we go over the answers together, like a blind review?
The PT they will be going over is listed on the first post. In this case, PT31.
@vanessadfisher628 said:
@tristandesinor505
Thanks!
Do you do the full PT ahead of time?
You can do it as a full timed PT, but you can also use this PT as a drill and ask questions only about the questions you did.
@jhaldy10325
Sorry if this is a dumb question. I'm new to trying these study groups.
Can anyone just join in or is there a registration?
Also, do we submit questions ahead of time?
Thanks!
@jhaldy10325 said:
@alexmedley502 said:
Damnit! I keep trying to make these but I never get home in time :(
Hop on when you get home: We kept going for like another hour at least after your post!
Jeez! Thank you, Josh. I gotta set a timer to remind myself next week! I gotta get back on my grind...