Same! I’ve tried LR before 7sage without all the foundation building and it was hell trying to not only get questions right, but also understanding them. Definitely feel like all the intense foundation work is paying off! :)
To whoever cares: One thing that is helping me with speed on MC questions is to find the conclusion. That sounds like a given, and it is. More often than not these question types follow the same rules. Look for transition words.
This stimulus states:
"but this process can be awkward for both the patients and the physicians, SINCE" (followed by premises)
Now look at the answer choices.
C is almost a carbon copy of that.
"This process of obtaining a second medical opinion can be awkward for those involved."
All you're adding is what the process is and the other answers (the incorrect ones have "assumptions")
A) - not seek a second opinion? what?
B) - essentially restating a premise given. Not the conclusion.
D) - uncomfortable? It mentions that in a premise. AND always? that language is too strong. You are adding stuff in which makes it incorrect.
E) - It focuses on the patient being concerned about offending physician and completely ignoring the fact that it is awkward for both parties.
@epayne17 as time progresses you'll answer on time. Focus on accuracy. The more accurate you are at being accurate the quicker you'll become. You got this .
I was able to quickly identify the conclusion, but I'm not sure if I should keep reading through the entire stimulus. If I'm confident in my choice should I look at my answer choices or keep reading to be safe?
I would highly advise against this due to 2 main reasons.
1. Remember, that this is all a relationship, a conclusion is only a conclusion in relation to the premises and context.
2. The second reason is it ties into the first reason in the sense that; you could easily mistake a sub-conclusion as a conclusion by not reading the rest of the text. A sub conclusion is a statement that can be both a premise and conclusion.
I would say read the whole thing because your gonna get a question wrong and if you would've read the whole thing you'd have a better chance of getting it correct.
Very curious about this too! Especially considering the time constraints, I feel obligated to move on once I am 90% sure I have identified the conclusion.
I highly agree with this. I did this once on a set of practice problems, and got it wrong because I found a conclusion and stopped reading it, but it ended up being a sub conclusion. The very next sentence was the main conclusion, that I would have easily identified had I read on. Additionally, I've also seen some talk of there even being an instance of multiple sub conclusions that build to a main conclusion. Not sure if that situation is very common, but it is always a good idea to read the entire stimulus and stop to anticipate every time before looking at answers. I personally like to identify what each sentence is even on main point questions to have the process down for identifying all aspects to make it easier when doing role and describe questions. I find identifying each part really helps.
I have a quick question: Do they always need to paraphrase the conclusion, or are there times when they state it word for word? How can I differentiate when to choose the word-for-word option versus paraphrasing?
The stimulus tells you whether the answer needs to be word for word or not. In this question, the stimulus states, "Which one of the following most accurately states the conclusion?" "Most accurately" indicates that the answer does not necessarily have to be word for word. However, a word for word answer would be more accurate than an answer that says the same thing, but paraphrases it.
When I use the blind review method, I kinda do it like this!
1. First try the question, doing my best to get within the target time. Sometimes this means I don't get to spend a lot of time thinking about answers or dissecting the meaning of the passage. This is what step 2 is for!
2. Blind review step! I go through the question again, this time without a time limit. I go through the passage, often reading it out loud, and I talk myself through each of the possible answers. For each answer (a,b,c.. etc) I make note of what I think makes it right or wrong in the answer box. I also look at which answer I chose, and try to figure out why I chose it the first time, and whether I still think I'm right on further review!
3. Finish the question, and find out the correct answer!
This has been working out really well for me so far (obvs can be customized to fit your best learning methods) and even though it's a bit time consuming I really recommend it! LMK if anyone has any other ideas.
#feedback I often have to refresh the page a few times before the option to adjust the speed of the video appears. This works fine, but I thought I would mention it!
Any tips on timing? I rushed and picked E first time around, and then during blind review, I took my time and then realized C was the correct answer immediately.
Heyy, for this type of question, I tend to use the highlighting tools. I normally highlight context/someone else's opinion, the author's argument, and the premises for the conclusion in different colors, and that helps me differentiate the different elements, then you just go to the answer choices and I feel like it's been helping. Of course, you need to be able to identify those elements, but I feel like colors help, since we can't really write notes around the stimulus
The main conclusion is that seeking a second medical opinion can be awkward, but it is sometimes advisable. C. Restates this
What makes the wrong answer wrong?
A. Concludes something entirely different from what the passage is saying.
B. We don't know if the 1st physician often feels this way - restating a premise in more definite terms. This might support the conclusion if A were the correct answer.
D. Always - these are hypothetical feelings of the physicians. Not all physicians are going to feel this insecurity, as far as we know from the passage.
E. This is the second part of the sentence that includes the conclusion, and it is a premise.
I think its important to understand why you're right but also why the other options were wrong. I watch the videos anyway even if I got it right in case there's something in the way he reads that may help for next time.
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getting these correct first try is curing my depression
second this
@cpaigec2323670 Right OMG! I feel amazing right now.
i feel like i am seeing color for the first time O.o i feel my brain getting bigger after each section of this lesson
Same! I’ve tried LR before 7sage without all the foundation building and it was hell trying to not only get questions right, but also understanding them. Definitely feel like all the intense foundation work is paying off! :)
Feeling a little better that I got this one right.
5 BIG BOOMS FOR ANOTHER ONE CORRECT!
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@MRod LOL me too!!
JY be like "How do you like me now?" to everybody who commented "HOW IS THIS APPLICABLE??" "need more LSAT examples!" "Where are the videos??
When I get happy I got one right but its level 1 difficulty and 98% of people got it
@JosephTrischitta literally same. i was so gassed then i was like oh. okay.
@BoluwatiwiAlabi with finishing up with the unit. Take the wins when you can big dawg
@JosephTrischitta On the LSAT you will get the points regardless
To whoever cares: One thing that is helping me with speed on MC questions is to find the conclusion. That sounds like a given, and it is. More often than not these question types follow the same rules. Look for transition words.
This stimulus states:
"but this process can be awkward for both the patients and the physicians, SINCE" (followed by premises)
Now look at the answer choices.
C is almost a carbon copy of that.
"This process of obtaining a second medical opinion can be awkward for those involved."
All you're adding is what the process is and the other answers (the incorrect ones have "assumptions")
A) - not seek a second opinion? what?
B) - essentially restating a premise given. Not the conclusion.
D) - uncomfortable? It mentions that in a premise. AND always? that language is too strong. You are adding stuff in which makes it incorrect.
E) - It focuses on the patient being concerned about offending physician and completely ignoring the fact that it is awkward for both parties.
@goodluckonthelsatguys yesss. I think once you can pinpoint what the conclusion is, it becomes simple to understand what the premise is.
v2 is next level. Crying on the inside for allowing my stubbornness to stop me from switching over until now. Takeaway - change is good.
YAYAYA got it right! But I am always above the time frame :/ ive got to work on that :)
got it right, but I have yet to answer a single question on-time
@epayne17 as time progresses you'll answer on time. Focus on accuracy. The more accurate you are at being accurate the quicker you'll become. You got this .
The longer explanations for each question in the new syllabus are very helpful!
I am on a rolllllllll. WOOHOO!
This was great
I was able to quickly identify the conclusion, but I'm not sure if I should keep reading through the entire stimulus. If I'm confident in my choice should I look at my answer choices or keep reading to be safe?
I would highly advise against this due to 2 main reasons.
1. Remember, that this is all a relationship, a conclusion is only a conclusion in relation to the premises and context.
2. The second reason is it ties into the first reason in the sense that; you could easily mistake a sub-conclusion as a conclusion by not reading the rest of the text. A sub conclusion is a statement that can be both a premise and conclusion.
I would say read the whole thing because your gonna get a question wrong and if you would've read the whole thing you'd have a better chance of getting it correct.
Very curious about this too! Especially considering the time constraints, I feel obligated to move on once I am 90% sure I have identified the conclusion.
I highly agree with this. I did this once on a set of practice problems, and got it wrong because I found a conclusion and stopped reading it, but it ended up being a sub conclusion. The very next sentence was the main conclusion, that I would have easily identified had I read on. Additionally, I've also seen some talk of there even being an instance of multiple sub conclusions that build to a main conclusion. Not sure if that situation is very common, but it is always a good idea to read the entire stimulus and stop to anticipate every time before looking at answers. I personally like to identify what each sentence is even on main point questions to have the process down for identifying all aspects to make it easier when doing role and describe questions. I find identifying each part really helps.
i love statpadding with the 1/5 difficulty questions
got this right within 54 seconds but somehow i was still over time????? GIRL WHAT
I have a quick question: Do they always need to paraphrase the conclusion, or are there times when they state it word for word? How can I differentiate when to choose the word-for-word option versus paraphrasing?
The stimulus tells you whether the answer needs to be word for word or not. In this question, the stimulus states, "Which one of the following most accurately states the conclusion?" "Most accurately" indicates that the answer does not necessarily have to be word for word. However, a word for word answer would be more accurate than an answer that says the same thing, but paraphrases it.
can someone pls explain how to use the blind review method in these lessons.
When I use the blind review method, I kinda do it like this!
1. First try the question, doing my best to get within the target time. Sometimes this means I don't get to spend a lot of time thinking about answers or dissecting the meaning of the passage. This is what step 2 is for!
2. Blind review step! I go through the question again, this time without a time limit. I go through the passage, often reading it out loud, and I talk myself through each of the possible answers. For each answer (a,b,c.. etc) I make note of what I think makes it right or wrong in the answer box. I also look at which answer I chose, and try to figure out why I chose it the first time, and whether I still think I'm right on further review!
3. Finish the question, and find out the correct answer!
This has been working out really well for me so far (obvs can be customized to fit your best learning methods) and even though it's a bit time consuming I really recommend it! LMK if anyone has any other ideas.
I think it’s just the video explanation…? I think.
how is the maker of 7sage so smart that he knows all these tricks and tips
Seriously I feel like my eyes have been opened. I'm glad he chose to make a business out of teaching the LSAT.
#feedback I often have to refresh the page a few times before the option to adjust the speed of the video appears. This works fine, but I thought I would mention it!
I got it!!!!
Any tips on timing? I rushed and picked E first time around, and then during blind review, I took my time and then realized C was the correct answer immediately.
Heyy, for this type of question, I tend to use the highlighting tools. I normally highlight context/someone else's opinion, the author's argument, and the premises for the conclusion in different colors, and that helps me differentiate the different elements, then you just go to the answer choices and I feel like it's been helping. Of course, you need to be able to identify those elements, but I feel like colors help, since we can't really write notes around the stimulus
What makes the correct answer correct?
The main conclusion is that seeking a second medical opinion can be awkward, but it is sometimes advisable. C. Restates this
What makes the wrong answer wrong?
A. Concludes something entirely different from what the passage is saying.
B. We don't know if the 1st physician often feels this way - restating a premise in more definite terms. This might support the conclusion if A were the correct answer.
D. Always - these are hypothetical feelings of the physicians. Not all physicians are going to feel this insecurity, as far as we know from the passage.
E. This is the second part of the sentence that includes the conclusion, and it is a premise.
#help do we need to read if we got the question right AND understand why it is correct?
I think its important to understand why you're right but also why the other options were wrong. I watch the videos anyway even if I got it right in case there's something in the way he reads that may help for next time.
how is the target time 46 seconds??? it took me that long to read the passage and the answer choices. Got this correct though.