#feedback It would be helpful to show which test the question comes from before you take the drill so that one knows if doing it will potentially burn a question on a practice test or timed section one planned on taking. Thanks!
I'm really quite enjoying the hands-on approach of answering questions. Although, I can already see an issue I might have in the future: I read the stem, I find the main conclusion, and my eyes just glaze over for the rest of the stimulus. That's probably not good, but something I'll be sure to work on.
It really does feel extremely formulaic deriving the conclusion from these questions.
Context-->conclusion-->Premises
I'm sure things get a bit trickier as this lesson progresses, but I feel pretty encouraged at my ability to quickly and confidently pick the right answers in all three of these questions.
Just pointing out something that I assume may come up on or apply to a future LR lesson?
I made a note about the use of "HOME" instead of "NURSING HOME" in sentence 3/ premise 2...
Keeping the ideal experiment practice in mind could we say that premise 2 stating that pets "make one's time at HOME more rewarding" does not strengthen the argument that time with a pet at a NURSING HOME is rewarding. In the context it states that MANY nursing homes have prohibitions against having pets so the argument would be better suited with data directly from NURSING HOMES from the subset of many that do allow pets?
Or maybe I am doing too much detective work and reading a bit much into details and just finished my second coffee and need to chill. lol
So when we identify the conclusion, do we not find an answer that includes context in it along with the conclusion? or can we ignore the rest and just find an answer that closely aligns with just the conclusion sentence?
I noticed that there are some videos, this one included, where the UI doesn't give me the option to increase the video's playback speed. is this intentional? Or perhaps an issue on my end?
It seems to me like Answer A on "Second Medical Opinion" and Answer B on this page are similar wrong answer types, like if someone read the question stem and thought it was asking "What can YOU conclude from the paragraph as a whole?" or "What can be concluded FROM the argument?" Not realizing that it's asking "What is the AUTHOR (not you) concluding IN (not from) the argument?" Is that a common Wrong Answer Type?
Context: Many nursing homes have prohibitions against having pets
Conclusion: And these should be lifted
presence of animal can yield.. + pet makes one time rewarding + important to more people as life span increases = premises
Answer: C - because it demonstrates that the policy should be changed, indicated by "many nursing homes have prohibitions against having pets" due to it being true, C seems to be correct.
Sentence 1 is the main conclusion because it is taking a stance on the policy that many nursing home residents are prohibited from having pets. Answer C restates this.
What makes the wrong answer wrong?
A. Restates sentence 3 which is a premise/ provides support to conclusion.
B. This isn't stated within the stimulus.
D. Sort of restates sent. 2 which is a premise.
E. Assumption made about what the author is trying to argue.
anyone else getting the correct answer during the blind review and messing up the initial try? i think the fact that it is timed really makes me nervous.
do i have to read every answer and the whole stimulus for these questions? once i see the conclusion i just find it in the answers without reading the whole stimulus or all the answers for timing reasons #help
Almost skipped over C bc it's not explicit in the passage that RESIDENTS are the ones that will have/want pets. Like, maybe there will be a community pet(s) for the residents but the residents aren't the ones that will own them, bc it is the actual homes themselves that have the policy. IDK. But I guess that's why we are supposed to choose the "best" or "closest" conclusion, which thankfully I realized was C
When doing these drills starting out should I be concerned about getting in the target time or spending time using the foundations to answer?
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The interpretation into policy felt so painfully obvious during the explanation, kinda frustrating on my end lol
Is the explanation in words under the video saying the same thing as the video? Should we look at both or one?
#feedback It would be helpful to show which test the question comes from before you take the drill so that one knows if doing it will potentially burn a question on a practice test or timed section one planned on taking. Thanks!
I'm really quite enjoying the hands-on approach of answering questions. Although, I can already see an issue I might have in the future: I read the stem, I find the main conclusion, and my eyes just glaze over for the rest of the stimulus. That's probably not good, but something I'll be sure to work on.
It really does feel extremely formulaic deriving the conclusion from these questions.
Context-->conclusion-->Premises
I'm sure things get a bit trickier as this lesson progresses, but I feel pretty encouraged at my ability to quickly and confidently pick the right answers in all three of these questions.
The answer being "c" in the last three MC questions really has me stressed while working through them on my own lol.
After learning how to recognize conclusions, all the other answers became "that's obviously wrong"
Its nice to actually feel progress
Just pointing out something that I assume may come up on or apply to a future LR lesson?
I made a note about the use of "HOME" instead of "NURSING HOME" in sentence 3/ premise 2...
Keeping the ideal experiment practice in mind could we say that premise 2 stating that pets "make one's time at HOME more rewarding" does not strengthen the argument that time with a pet at a NURSING HOME is rewarding. In the context it states that MANY nursing homes have prohibitions against having pets so the argument would be better suited with data directly from NURSING HOMES from the subset of many that do allow pets?
Or maybe I am doing too much detective work and reading a bit much into details and just finished my second coffee and need to chill. lol
So when we identify the conclusion, do we not find an answer that includes context in it along with the conclusion? or can we ignore the rest and just find an answer that closely aligns with just the conclusion sentence?
I noticed that there are some videos, this one included, where the UI doesn't give me the option to increase the video's playback speed. is this intentional? Or perhaps an issue on my end?
It seems to me like Answer A on "Second Medical Opinion" and Answer B on this page are similar wrong answer types, like if someone read the question stem and thought it was asking "What can YOU conclude from the paragraph as a whole?" or "What can be concluded FROM the argument?" Not realizing that it's asking "What is the AUTHOR (not you) concluding IN (not from) the argument?" Is that a common Wrong Answer Type?
How I recognize it:
Context: Many nursing homes have prohibitions against having pets
Conclusion: And these should be lifted
presence of animal can yield.. + pet makes one time rewarding + important to more people as life span increases = premises
Answer: C - because it demonstrates that the policy should be changed, indicated by "many nursing homes have prohibitions against having pets" due to it being true, C seems to be correct.
Like this if you got 3/3. Road to 180 babyyyy!
What makes the correct answer correct?
Sentence 1 is the main conclusion because it is taking a stance on the policy that many nursing home residents are prohibited from having pets. Answer C restates this.
What makes the wrong answer wrong?
A. Restates sentence 3 which is a premise/ provides support to conclusion.
B. This isn't stated within the stimulus.
D. Sort of restates sent. 2 which is a premise.
E. Assumption made about what the author is trying to argue.
getting these right is giving me so much hope lol
anyone else find that its odd that all three of these correct choices have been C?
anyone else getting the correct answer during the blind review and messing up the initial try? i think the fact that it is timed really makes me nervous.
what is the difference between context and premise? how to separate context from the rest of the passage?
What is the definition of stimulus exactly? I cant find it in any of the other lessons.
Is P1 also a sub conclusion? thats how i interpreted it to justify the lifting of restrictions.
do i have to read every answer and the whole stimulus for these questions? once i see the conclusion i just find it in the answers without reading the whole stimulus or all the answers for timing reasons #help
#feedback I liked the explanation of answer choice E by saying that the author wouldn't be satisfied with it because there was no action taken.
# feedback I really enjoy the lectures with videos and the practice questions from an LSAT test. It defiantly helped me understand everything better!
Almost skipped over C bc it's not explicit in the passage that RESIDENTS are the ones that will have/want pets. Like, maybe there will be a community pet(s) for the residents but the residents aren't the ones that will own them, bc it is the actual homes themselves that have the policy. IDK. But I guess that's why we are supposed to choose the "best" or "closest" conclusion, which thankfully I realized was C
When doing these drills starting out should I be concerned about getting in the target time or spending time using the foundations to answer?