I'm really quite enjoying the hands-on approach of answering questions. Although, I can already see an issue I might have in the future: I read the stem, I find the main conclusion, and my eyes just glaze over for the rest of the stimulus. That's probably not good, but something I'll be sure to work on.
Is this bad though? I'm doing the same. I find the main conclusion and skim the rest to make sure it is supporting what I think it should be supporting.
Actually, I think that is the ultimate goal of doing these exercises! This question had a target time of 0:36. I think this target would be impossible--or at the very least, difficult-- to achieve if you were to read through the entirety of the stimulus AND eliminate answer choices. The idea is to develop an "intuition" sharp enough to QUICKLY (and correctly) identify the main conclusion and anticipate what the answer might be BEFORE even looking at the answer choices, which it seems you have done!
I've found that this is one of the things the LSAT definitely will try and trick you with. I was encourage by others/tutors to never engage in the test taking meta-strategies that we learn in traditional academia.
things like,
"that seems too simple to be the answer"
"well the last two were C they can't all be C"
etc.,
is usually the test makers messing with you and trying to get you to waste seconds doubting your own knowledge.
If you have been following along with the video, you don't need to read the lesson material as it is just a transcript of what can be seen in the video.
Let me know if you have any further questions. I’m happy to help!
Sentence 1 is the main conclusion because it is taking a stance on the policy that many nursing home residents are prohibited from having pets. Answer C restates this.
What makes the wrong answer wrong?
A. Restates sentence 3 which is a premise/ provides support to conclusion.
B. This isn't stated within the stimulus.
D. Sort of restates sent. 2 which is a premise.
E. Assumption made about what the author is trying to argue.
It really does feel extremely formulaic deriving the conclusion from these questions.
Context-->conclusion-->Premises
I'm sure things get a bit trickier as this lesson progresses, but I feel pretty encouraged at my ability to quickly and confidently pick the right answers in all three of these questions.
So, in sports if you rush while learning something or when you aren't confident in it yet, it usually leads to injury or learning a bad habit that is really hard to undo.
Same thing applies here. Don't worry about timing. Just worry about accuracy. Speed comes with practicing something that you learned slowly first.
I have a bad habit of choosing the correct answer and then overthinking and choosing the wrong one last minute. But I'm hopeful these lessons will help me figure out why I do that.
Same here, that's my biggest problem and i see it reflected on my practice tests. I choose the correct answer then end up picking another answer to only see that my first choice was correct. I think its just grasping the fundamentals and not questioning yourself.
I feel like we have to reason our thinking for each of the answer choices as to why we think all the other options are wrong and the one we picked is the absolutely correct one.
I am confused between the original test and the blind review test.
#feedback It would be helpful to show which test the question comes from before you take the drill so that one knows if doing it will potentially burn a question on a practice test or timed section one planned on taking. Thanks!
@peterfoulke1 agreed — i need to know the test it’s coming from Before i start the question! I’m trying to preserve tests and sections so I can keep them 100% fresh
It seems to me like Answer A on "Second Medical Opinion" and Answer B on this page are similar wrong answer types, like if someone read the question stem and thought it was asking "What can YOU conclude from the paragraph as a whole?" or "What can be concluded FROM the argument?" Not realizing that it's asking "What is the AUTHOR (not you) concluding IN (not from) the argument?" Is that a common Wrong Answer Type?
The way this guy can breakdown questions and how to spot certain things is crazy. I honestly can't wait till im done with CC and get to drilling to see my improvement.
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Like this if you got 3/3. Road to 180 babyyyy!
The fact that they're all "C" almost tripped me up ha ha!
Omg same! I was like are they really all C!? I think they did that on purpose. Good thing I didn't let them trick me
After learning how to recognize conclusions, all the other answers became "that's obviously wrong"
Its nice to actually feel progress
totally agree
I also agree. It's becoming easier to identify wrong answers!
getting these right is giving me so much hope lol
I'm really quite enjoying the hands-on approach of answering questions. Although, I can already see an issue I might have in the future: I read the stem, I find the main conclusion, and my eyes just glaze over for the rest of the stimulus. That's probably not good, but something I'll be sure to work on.
Is this bad though? I'm doing the same. I find the main conclusion and skim the rest to make sure it is supporting what I think it should be supporting.
Actually, I think that is the ultimate goal of doing these exercises! This question had a target time of 0:36. I think this target would be impossible--or at the very least, difficult-- to achieve if you were to read through the entirety of the stimulus AND eliminate answer choices. The idea is to develop an "intuition" sharp enough to QUICKLY (and correctly) identify the main conclusion and anticipate what the answer might be BEFORE even looking at the answer choices, which it seems you have done!
@ava.perez41 I just pray this method works with all the other question types!
@Shannell_E'llan well, it shouldn't, right? on other question types, the goal isn't to zero in on the conclusion
that's why you read the question stem first
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The answer being "c" in the last three MC questions really has me stressed while working through them on my own lol.
I've found that this is one of the things the LSAT definitely will try and trick you with. I was encourage by others/tutors to never engage in the test taking meta-strategies that we learn in traditional academia.
things like,
"that seems too simple to be the answer"
"well the last two were C they can't all be C"
etc.,
is usually the test makers messing with you and trying to get you to waste seconds doubting your own knowledge.
Same here lol
i'm blowing through these with hella time leftover... life is good (for now)
# feedback I really enjoy the lectures with videos and the practice questions from an LSAT test. It defiantly helped me understand everything better!
Dumb question , but does the text in these lessons act as a transcript or should I read it in addition to watching the videos? #help
not a dumb question...I was wondering the same. thank you for asking!
thank you!
Hi there,
If you have been following along with the video, you don't need to read the lesson material as it is just a transcript of what can be seen in the video.
Let me know if you have any further questions. I’m happy to help!
anyone else find that its odd that all three of these correct choices have been C?
I did too, it threw me for a loop lol
What makes the correct answer correct?
Sentence 1 is the main conclusion because it is taking a stance on the policy that many nursing home residents are prohibited from having pets. Answer C restates this.
What makes the wrong answer wrong?
A. Restates sentence 3 which is a premise/ provides support to conclusion.
B. This isn't stated within the stimulus.
D. Sort of restates sent. 2 which is a premise.
E. Assumption made about what the author is trying to argue.
your summaries are great when i don't want to watch the 8 minute video lol
It really does feel extremely formulaic deriving the conclusion from these questions.
Context-->conclusion-->Premises
I'm sure things get a bit trickier as this lesson progresses, but I feel pretty encouraged at my ability to quickly and confidently pick the right answers in all three of these questions.
So, in sports if you rush while learning something or when you aren't confident in it yet, it usually leads to injury or learning a bad habit that is really hard to undo.
Same thing applies here. Don't worry about timing. Just worry about accuracy. Speed comes with practicing something that you learned slowly first.
i got this in 22 seconds i feel like a greek god
I have a bad habit of choosing the correct answer and then overthinking and choosing the wrong one last minute. But I'm hopeful these lessons will help me figure out why I do that.
Same here, that's my biggest problem and i see it reflected on my practice tests. I choose the correct answer then end up picking another answer to only see that my first choice was correct. I think its just grasping the fundamentals and not questioning yourself.
I feel like we have to reason our thinking for each of the answer choices as to why we think all the other options are wrong and the one we picked is the absolutely correct one.
I am confused between the original test and the blind review test.
Is the answer to all of these C coincidentally or is it on purpose to make us be really sure when we pick on the answer lol
@SavanahHoffstein Thanks for the spoilers
#feedback I liked the explanation of answer choice E by saying that the author wouldn't be satisfied with it because there was no action taken.
got it right with ONE SECOND over are u fr
#feedback It would be helpful to show which test the question comes from before you take the drill so that one knows if doing it will potentially burn a question on a practice test or timed section one planned on taking. Thanks!
@peterfoulke1 it actually does tell you that. When you finish it on the correct / incorrect screen it says PT143 Section 4 Question 16
@peterfoulke1 agreed — i need to know the test it’s coming from Before i start the question! I’m trying to preserve tests and sections so I can keep them 100% fresh
It seems to me like Answer A on "Second Medical Opinion" and Answer B on this page are similar wrong answer types, like if someone read the question stem and thought it was asking "What can YOU conclude from the paragraph as a whole?" or "What can be concluded FROM the argument?" Not realizing that it's asking "What is the AUTHOR (not you) concluding IN (not from) the argument?" Is that a common Wrong Answer Type?
The way this guy can breakdown questions and how to spot certain things is crazy. I honestly can't wait till im done with CC and get to drilling to see my improvement.
May be a slow moment for me but the mention of identifying incorrect answer choices are premises really helped me in these lessons.
29 seconds first try!
I dunno why it is, but I find that highlighting pieces of the stim are very helpful to me, breaking it into its component parts as it were
3 IN A ROW YAYAYAYA but I am always going above the time
FINALLY got an easy question right lol... still over time though