@mitch.s For 4, it specifically says "must" be assumed in order for the conclusion to be properly drawn. It does not mean that, once assumed, the conclusion can be properly drawn, as it might require more assumptions. The same goes for 21, where "must" is replaced with "necessary."
@Tswizzle25 I actually think this one could be either NA or SA. The stem is not clear if its asking which assumption is necessary or if the argument just makes an assumption that is sufficient. I think there's some gray area and we would have to look at the stimulus and answer choices to get a feel for whether we're looking for NA or SA.
@LSAT101 Question 26 is talking about the dialogue in between Denise and Reshmi. This is the structure of a Point at Issue question, where two people state their arguments about something, and then the question stem typically asks about what they agree or disagree on. This isn't most strongly supported, because you aren't finding some claim that is really supported by the language in the stimulus. You are instead identifying what both people may agree on given the information given. It's similar, but slightly different structure. I'd rephrase the question if it was a MSS question as follows: Which of the following is most strongly supported by the dialogue between Denise and Reshmi above? In any case, it should be quite obvious if a question is PoA given seeing the stimulus bc it looks different in that it has two people's dialogue clearly identified! Hope that helps
Can anyone explain why question 7 "In the exchange above, the function of Craig's comment is to" is a Method of Reasoning question? And not say, Argument Part?
Kevin's answer in a different thread: It's because that question stem would be part of a 2-speaker stim. Craig would almost certainly be the second speaker. So when we're asked the "function" of Craig's comment, it's asking about Craig's purpose is in his response. Was it to question an assumption? Counter a premise? Etc.
A couple of these threw me off at first but then the patterns started jumping out. Truly appreciate these rapid-fire exercises. It solidifies the skill that much more.
#help I thought Flaw questions were ones in which we had to identify the flaw in reasoning. In Q14, we're identifying what Lana thinks is the flaw... could this be a different question type?
I got tripped up too, thinking it was a weaken, but Lana is not asking us how we could best undermine the argument, its asking us for what is the style of issue that the argument has. Thats Flaw/Descriptive Weakening.
It's because that question stem would be part of a 2-speaker stim. Craig would almost certainly be the second speaker. So when we're asked the "function" of Craig's comment, it's asking about the Craig's purpose is in his response. Was it to question an assumption? Counter a premise? Etc.
anyone else seeing the wrong comments on this lesson? the comments I'm seeing are clearly from a problem set, but the lesson they are coming up on for me is a quiz about questions stems. #help
I guess because you can't assume that the argument is making a certain assumption. the correct ac has to be an assumption that the argument is indisputably making
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48 questions. Make it 50 :p
I thought any assumption question that mentions anything about the conclusion being properly drawn would be SA? 4&21 tripped me up with it being NA?!?
@mitch.s For 4, it specifically says "must" be assumed in order for the conclusion to be properly drawn. It does not mean that, once assumed, the conclusion can be properly drawn, as it might require more assumptions. The same goes for 21, where "must" is replaced with "necessary."
Can someone explain why Q19 is Necessary assumption? How would i know?
@Tswizzle25 I actually think this one could be either NA or SA. The stem is not clear if its asking which assumption is necessary or if the argument just makes an assumption that is sufficient. I think there's some gray area and we would have to look at the stimulus and answer choices to get a feel for whether we're looking for NA or SA.
Does anyone remember where the first half on the LR sections?
Could someone explain 26 to me? Why is it not most strongly supported
@LSAT101 Question 26 is talking about the dialogue in between Denise and Reshmi. This is the structure of a Point at Issue question, where two people state their arguments about something, and then the question stem typically asks about what they agree or disagree on. This isn't most strongly supported, because you aren't finding some claim that is really supported by the language in the stimulus. You are instead identifying what both people may agree on given the information given. It's similar, but slightly different structure. I'd rephrase the question if it was a MSS question as follows: Which of the following is most strongly supported by the dialogue between Denise and Reshmi above? In any case, it should be quite obvious if a question is PoA given seeing the stimulus bc it looks different in that it has two people's dialogue clearly identified! Hope that helps
how important is it to really identify the names of these arguments do y'all think?
@LiviaLSAT so important that im skipping it
@LiviaLSAT I was going to say the same thing. I don't think this assists me in getting the right answer to actual questions.
That Must be False threw me off lol
How do we print these quizzes?
Can anyone explain why question 7 "In the exchange above, the function of Craig's comment is to" is a Method of Reasoning question? And not say, Argument Part?
Kevin's answer in a different thread: It's because that question stem would be part of a 2-speaker stim. Craig would almost certainly be the second speaker. So when we're asked the "function" of Craig's comment, it's asking about Craig's purpose is in his response. Was it to question an assumption? Counter a premise? Etc.
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A couple of these threw me off at first but then the patterns started jumping out. Truly appreciate these rapid-fire exercises. It solidifies the skill that much more.
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#help I thought Flaw questions were ones in which we had to identify the flaw in reasoning. In Q14, we're identifying what Lana thinks is the flaw... could this be a different question type?
@Rena12345
I got tripped up too, thinking it was a weaken, but Lana is not asking us how we could best undermine the argument, its asking us for what is the style of issue that the argument has. Thats Flaw/Descriptive Weakening.
#feedback number 19 is labeled as necessary assumption but the actual question it comes from is sufficient assumption.
#feedback Question 4 labels it as a necessary assumption but in the next lesson the same question type is labeled as sufficient.
#4 is an assumption required for the conclusion aka necc assump
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Made a knowt set for this if anyone is interested: https://knowt.com/flashcards/ea87f641-8ea3-4648-907e-aec70f9c9287?isNew=true
the quiz was like all flaw or necessary assumption lol
Why is Q7 method of reasoning and not argument part?
I was wondering the same thing
It's because that question stem would be part of a 2-speaker stim. Craig would almost certainly be the second speaker. So when we're asked the "function" of Craig's comment, it's asking about the Craig's purpose is in his response. Was it to question an assumption? Counter a premise? Etc.
Is there a way to print or copy/paste in a way that minimizes use of paper?
Or a way to save our AC/responses to flag which ones we want to review?
"Which one of the following, if true, most helps to explain the increased likelihood that an unemployed retiree will have a heart attack on a Monday?"
Oh my gosh, this is soooo LSAT.
anyone else seeing the wrong comments on this lesson? the comments I'm seeing are clearly from a problem set, but the lesson they are coming up on for me is a quiz about questions stems. #help
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Why Q4 is a necessary assumption but not a sufficient assumption?
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Q4: "Which one of the following principles must be assumed in order for the psychologist's conclusion to be properly drawn?"
The key phrase is "must be assumed," aka it is necessary to the argument.
A SA stem would read "the psychologists conclusion is properly drawn if which one of the following principles is assumed"
NA: "If the psychologists conclusion is properly drawn, then the principle is true."
SA: "If the principle is true, then the conclusion is properly drawn."
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Does anybody know why Q19 is necessary assumption ?
I thought it was sufficient assumption...!
Q19
The argument makes which one of the following assumptions?
i think it's because the question is asking for which assumption is necessary for the argument to be valid.
i.e., if you do not have this assumption, the argument falls apart. therefore, it is a necessary assumption
I guess because you can't assume that the argument is making a certain assumption. the correct ac has to be an assumption that the argument is indisputably making