my problem is that i'm not applying the skills I learned in the other sections. I was only looking for the conditional statements and completely failed to look for the conclusions in each argument
@HannaMills Nah. I'm going back through the lessons after having gone through the modules and done some practices tests and a whole bunch of drills. This question type is just here to suck up time.
I got too in the weeds of the Skill Builders and instead of looking for the entire argument structure, I ended up ignoring everything but the conclusion which messed me up.
So grateful to have these breakdowns afterwords to help me see why I got something wrong. I hope to do better on the next one!
I got this one right in about 50 seconds. I went based off how it was framed and the answer was the only one framed the same exact way. Will this work every time or no?
@OliverJakacki probably not, you are building the foundations your brain needs to connect the dots. The more you diagram, you will become efficient and eventually just start seeing the patterns. Like when you're a kid arithmatic needs diagrams, as you get older you recognize patterns and can do it in your head.
@OliverJakacki I said the same thing!! Like, I am genuinely improving, clearly because I am getting the questions right, but why is it taking me 4-6 mins to answer :(? Anybody got advice on how to do better on time management??
I really think trying to hammer home that both the question and answer contain an ESSENTIAL variable of sorts which makes the answer click is very helpful (does this even make sense? idk)
this one was difficult for me. I have trouble with method of reasoning questions. anyone have any tips? I knew it wasn't A B and C but was stuck at C and D.
i got it right! but these types of questions "which argument best fits" are the hardest for me. It took my 8 minutes to work through. i definetly need to get faster.
I think maybe I'm a bit less of a visual learner than I thought (at least when it comes to these concepts in particular). I have felt though, that a change in mindset, similar to when I was taking Calculus helps.
Upon reading the question, the main gist I got was that just because bilateral symmetry is common, the author said that it was enough to justify it being advantageous, simply because it was a common trait (and survived and was carried over to other species and whatnot). This reasoning in itself in my brain felt like "um...okay..I guess?"
Using my own understanding that it wasn't really a strong argument or necessarily true, I looked for similar responses that had similar texts, which eliminated about half the options and then C was the only one that stood out to me in the end.
What helped me here was looking for the contrapositive in the stimulus and then trying to see what adds up in the questions. It is def hard for me to apply patterns and diagrams though, I've def been leaning towards looking for words like "if" in the answer etc but got it right so hopefully I start getting better at application
I just wanted to ask how to know when to shift gears. I was looking at this from the context of purely logic, so I even turned the first premise into logic. and i somehow took it as context. idk what was going on but i didn't even think to take it as a premise and conclusion sandwich and ended up spending over 30 mins on the question.
I'm earnestly thanking God and you guys have such extensive stuff on this topic of necessary and sufficient stuff. Its becoming aparent this is one of my main sore spots and its great to have the resource to really hone this
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This was difficult.
my problem is that i'm not applying the skills I learned in the other sections. I was only looking for the conditional statements and completely failed to look for the conclusions in each argument
My timing is abysmal, but I got it right! It's really helped to think about "lawgic" diagramming as a kind of math.
@witchesgoo same
this made me feel so dumb
@GordonGianadda I like to see these comments because it makes me feel better.
Is there a lesson or structure for how to learn and become efficient with developing diagrams for these questions?
@HannaMills Nah. I'm going back through the lessons after having gone through the modules and done some practices tests and a whole bunch of drills. This question type is just here to suck up time.
So I ate this argument up which is harder but missed the last one. Oh okay
Took me 5 mins but I got it on first try :D
@petvma me too!
@ArthurMorgan great job and love the username!
@petvma thanks!
I got too in the weeds of the Skill Builders and instead of looking for the entire argument structure, I ended up ignoring everything but the conclusion which messed me up.
So grateful to have these breakdowns afterwords to help me see why I got something wrong. I hope to do better on the next one!
sigh
DUB! things are clicking. thanks for adding these!
P.S. I am a bio major and I did know what Bilateral Symmetry is lol
it took me 15 minutes LOL but i guess i got it right
I got this one right in about 50 seconds. I went based off how it was framed and the answer was the only one framed the same exact way. Will this work every time or no?
@Jc3000 need to match the reasoning
is it a problem that I'm getting these right but im going waaayyyy over time on these questions?
@OliverJakacki probably not, you are building the foundations your brain needs to connect the dots. The more you diagram, you will become efficient and eventually just start seeing the patterns. Like when you're a kid arithmatic needs diagrams, as you get older you recognize patterns and can do it in your head.
@OliverJakacki I said the same thing!! Like, I am genuinely improving, clearly because I am getting the questions right, but why is it taking me 4-6 mins to answer :(? Anybody got advice on how to do better on time management??
first try 48 seconds babyyy
I really think trying to hammer home that both the question and answer contain an ESSENTIAL variable of sorts which makes the answer click is very helpful (does this even make sense? idk)
this one was difficult for me. I have trouble with method of reasoning questions. anyone have any tips? I knew it wasn't A B and C but was stuck at C and D.
i got it right! but these types of questions "which argument best fits" are the hardest for me. It took my 8 minutes to work through. i definetly need to get faster.
I see where I went wrong. I keep confusing necessary vs sufficient conditions when I diagram, anyone else?
Time: 02:15 (+00:14)
Result: 100%
I think maybe I'm a bit less of a visual learner than I thought (at least when it comes to these concepts in particular). I have felt though, that a change in mindset, similar to when I was taking Calculus helps.
Upon reading the question, the main gist I got was that just because bilateral symmetry is common, the author said that it was enough to justify it being advantageous, simply because it was a common trait (and survived and was carried over to other species and whatnot). This reasoning in itself in my brain felt like "um...okay..I guess?"
Using my own understanding that it wasn't really a strong argument or necessarily true, I looked for similar responses that had similar texts, which eliminated about half the options and then C was the only one that stood out to me in the end.
I did it! I used to just get all of these wrong before 7sage. It really is like arithmetic
What helped me here was looking for the contrapositive in the stimulus and then trying to see what adds up in the questions. It is def hard for me to apply patterns and diagrams though, I've def been leaning towards looking for words like "if" in the answer etc but got it right so hopefully I start getting better at application
I just wanted to ask how to know when to shift gears. I was looking at this from the context of purely logic, so I even turned the first premise into logic. and i somehow took it as context. idk what was going on but i didn't even think to take it as a premise and conclusion sandwich and ended up spending over 30 mins on the question.
I'm earnestly thanking God and you guys have such extensive stuff on this topic of necessary and sufficient stuff. Its becoming aparent this is one of my main sore spots and its great to have the resource to really hone this
guys i'm beginning to believe
beyond fried, i definitely need to practice more.