One of the applications asks me to provide a secondary school where I received my diploma. Are they asking for --- literally, the elementary or middle school that I attended? There's a place on the app for graduate school so I assume not that?

probably a stupid question - but on the LSAC LOR form, are the "phone number" and "Prefix" fields important?

I ask because I already sent the emails through the system but I didn't fill out the prefex (Dr.) or the phone number fields before sending. It's not letting me edit and resend, only delete and create new

Does this matter or is it totally inconsequential? Does a recommendation look suspect if it doesn't have a contact phone number?

Hi everyone,

My Feb LSAT got postponed to Feb 24. This will be my third attempt and my current highest score is a 150.

I am not trying to get into a T10 school. My dream school is Loyola Chicago, which currently ranks #82. And I am also considering DePaul and John Marshall Law School which are at even lower ranks. In other words, I will be happy if I got accepted into any law school in the City of Chicago which offer a part time program.

With that being said, should I still apply for Fall 2018 admission after I received the Feb LSAT score?

Thanks!

I know that you can save $100 when you buy an additional Admissions Unlimited x1, but do you have to buy them at the same time? I know I'd like to get one, but I'm not sure if I'd like to purchase a second. If I wait, will I lose the chance to get the $100 discount?

I'm assuming business causal? Sport coat okay/recommended?

Does anyone know how to contact Larry Law Law, the owner of the 0L prep course called (KTCOOLs)? I was wondering if his course was still available. I recall reading a promo saying that it will end indefinitely.

Hi all - I'm currently working on the Yale application, wherein they recommend submitting a resume and limiting it to a single page. I'm wondering if others who have worked for 5 or more years after graduating college are having trouble limiting to one page, and if it's advisable to submit a two page resume? I've had 3 jobs post grad, 3 internships during school, a publication, and some misc. sports awards and other honors. Including everything on a single page would mean not putting much (or any) detail for each job position. As an alternative, does it make sense to exclude the internships? They were long ago, but still meaningful experiences. Also a portion of the application specifically asks for internship experience and other work completed during studies, maybe it's not necessary to include it in both places? In other words, the resume could be just for honors, awards and publications and the other parts of the application can cover work experience (both pre and post-grad)?

Would be great to hear how others have approached the resume. The application doesn't specify the exact components they expect to see in it

Thanks!

Hari

Hi all -

I'm panicking about everything - June test, applications, LORs, emails to schools, strategy. I'm trying really hard to stay as calm as possible and focus on studying but its hard. I've been thinking for a while that I should probably work with a professional and I'm trying to figure out how to go about it. David Busis is an option as well as a few others. I just don't know if I'm having a knee-jerk reaction to my anxiety/stress or if working with a consultant will get me to where I need to be.

A little about me - I'm not a 4.0/160 person. My numbers are below medians and most cases below the 25th percentile. I know its going to be hard for me to get in to a decent school but I don't want to spend thousands of dollars for someone to tell me I'm not going to get into a decent school. What I DO want is to talk to a professional about my LOR, resume and various questions that come up regarding my application. But damn, they all charge thousands!! I feel like I'll be in debt before I even start law school :(.

Any help on your experience with consultants and how you chose one would be appreciated.

I used to work with an attorney who agreed to write an LOR for me. We weren't employed at the same agency but did a lot of work together and served on some of the same committees. She left her position not to long ago to serve as an assistant director at one of the schools I'm applying to, so she wrote the letter for me on the school's letterhead.

I also asked for my last two supervisors to write me letters, which they both agreed but haven't submitted yet, which as you might imagine is causing me some anxiety. I had planned to submit my academic LOR and the attorney's LOR to this one particular school, but I'm wonder what the community thinks? Does it seem like it'll matter that one of their own staff wrote me the letter (and I believe it's a pretty decent letter)? Or would they prefer to hear from my actual employer instead?

Thanks!

UPDATE: Applications for pro-bono consulting are closed. We've already chosen our winners.

Hi everyone,

On April 15, we’re going to raise the price of Admissions Comprehensive Consulting from $2999 to $3499.

I was going to spin this like, “Hey, lock in your 2017 price now,” and to be honest, I might still spin it, but the forum didn’t feel like the right place for a sales pitch, so I’m just going to explain why we’re doing what we’re doing.

This past fall, we were overwhelmed with demand, and we had to shut down our sales page throughout most of October, our busiest month. I could have responded by quickly hiring a bunch of editors and consultants with fancy pedigrees, but I was concerned about the quality of the product. I would much rather be a premium service than an application widget factory.

We want to use the new revenue to create an even more premium experience, which means the following:

Already we’ve hired a new manager and contracted with proofreaders to ensure that the final draft of every document in a consulting package gets a second pair of eyes. Look out for even more improvements in the future.

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The package doesn’t expire until you’re completely squared away. For example, you could purchase consulting now, apply to law school in the fall of 2018, and continue working with us through the summer of 2019 as you negotiate your scholarship offers and try to get off waitlists.

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Hi all, I'm applying to school in the fall and am going to start requesting my LOR's now (1. to get it out of the way and 2. to give some of my writers time to do it without feeling rushed on their end as I know they have busy schedules). Here are the people I'm going to ask to write LORs for me:

Graduate school professor that was also on my thesis committee. I did well in her classes, I feel confident that she "liked" me, and would write me a good LOR. I also volunteered to do my thesis on a project she was working on so I'm hoping there is some vested interest there. I was in grad school 2009-2011 so this is my most recent college experience (obtained my UG degree in 1998 and I couldn't pick out 95% of my UG professors out of a line up at this point).

Former boss (military) that is my mentor and who I have had an over 15 year professional and personal relationship with.

Former military work colleague that was a military lawyer and is now a successful lawyer in civilian practice.

The principal at my daughter's elementary school who can speak to my volunteer work within the school. For the last two years, I have performed significant volunteer service for my daughter's school. I am the coach of her basketball team, assistant coach of the school's track team, I am the "Wednesday lunch parent" (translation - provide adult supervision for a 2 hour lunch / recess period for the school every Wednesday, year round), class librarian (work the library for the class every other Thursday), and Girls on The Run practice parent (bring snacks twice a week for the school's GOTR program).

QUESTION (s): I believe that admissions committees would prioritize the LORs in the order above (as far as relevance / usefulness in the decision process. Agree / disagree? Any issues with any of the potential LOR writers or are there any other "type" of person I should be looking for? Note: Finding someone to write a quality LOR from my UG days is going to be extremely tough since, you know, Bill Clinton was president, Seinfeld was still airing new episodes, and mp3s were invented that year...

Hello everyone,

I am an UMR (first generation Mexican-American) and a bunch of priority deadlines are this Thursday so I just want to make sure I'm not overlooking a certain school. I know the ivy leagues tend to be good for this but based on my LSAT and GPA of 159 and 3.24, I am not applying to those schools.

I am applying to UC Hastings (top choice), Chicago- Kent, UC Irvine, U of Wisconsin.... any other recommendations?

So far I have submitted apps for Pepperdine, USD and U of Denver.

Thank you,

Stephanie

I'm wrestling with the idea of applying to Yale by Feb 28. I just took the LSAT 2 days ago. I think I did okay (my gut says it was between 13-15 misses or a 167, best case scenario maybe a 172). I had only recently committed myself to wanting to go to law school, which is why I missed the December LSAT and a number of the application cycles for schools that express concerns against testing in February. Fortunately Yale is not one of those schools; they accept Feb test scores without a stated penalty to the applicant's admission chances. Yale is the only top 5 law school to which this applies, and I also have legacy at Yale which I think may help my chances.

I'm 28 now, waiting a year and applying next winter would mean I start Law School when I'm 30. I also don't know what I would do with the extra year besides work and save. I'm currently in a career field somewhat unrelated to law (corporate finance), so I don't think an extra year of work experience would particularly bolster my application (I've already worked for 6 years since graduating college). So applying this year and starting in the fall (if I get in) makes a lot of sense...though there are some things I'm unsure of:

The deadline to apply for financial aid in March 15, though I imagine many students have already applied. does applying for aid this late reduce chances of receiving grants/scholarships?

Does an LSAT score of 170 realistically even qualify me for any aid at a school like Yale? Is the criteria for aid need based or merit based? Socioeconomically my family is UMC and I personally have non-liquid assets (homeowner's equity)

As mentioned Yale doesn't actually communicate a "penalty" for Feb LSAT test takers, does anyone have information to suggest this may not truly be the case?

Question about re-application...I obviously don't know my LSAT score yet, so in that sense I'm sort of applying "blind". It's entirely possible I screwed up more than I thought and my score is more like a 160, which would obviously seriously hurt my chances. Does re-applying to the same law school a year later put you at a disadvantage against students who are applying for the first time?

Any thoughts/insights are appreciated. If it makes sense to wait or if I should just go for it.

Thanks!

Hari

Hello,

I need some insight on what exactly I should omit from my Resume. I graduated undergrad in 2012 and went back for my paralegal cert. in 2015. I have 5 years work experience. I also have a ton of extracurricular activities(boxing, dancing, mentoring), Honor Society's and leadership positions during undergrad. Should I include all of those things or should I stick to my skills and employment experience? Thanks for your responses!

This may sound ridiculous, but it just so happens that I can be ridiculously indecisive. I know that it's important to consider employment stats, scholarships, national ranking, location, course offerings, specializations, etc. in making the decision, but I find it somewhat frustrating that there is no "logic games approach" for deciding on a school.

If you're reading this and you've made your decision or are in the process of making it, could you share how you went about it?

Did you go with a gut feeling? Do a chart? Do a chart with a weird point system that ultimately made the decision for you?

Did you talk to academic advisors, professors, friends, and/or family to get input on anything?

If you've decided, were you absolutely sure or more 80% sure or maybe even less?

These are the kinds of questions I've been dying to ask other people. What's your story?

Hi all, if I am hoping to convince school A to give me aid by letting them know how much I got from school B, should I wait until school A’s financial aid app forms are available and fill them out, see what happens, then tell them about school B’s offer? Or should I tell School A now since their $ is limited?

I'm taking the LSAT on Saturday. My practice tests have been about 158 so I will be content to be within a point or 2 of that given how anxiety provoking this whole test has been. My UGPA is a 3.94, and I will have completed my masters in forensic psych by May. I know that my score falls well below the 25th percentile for Georgetown and a lot of top schools, but is it still worth applying? Or is it a waste of money? Thanks!

Hi everyone!

So.. I have a withdraw on my transcripts from a billion years ago. It was due to time confliction and other reasons. My school did not count the withdraw as a fail or ding my gpa for it. I only spent a couple weeks in it, so was well within the acceptable withdraw time frame.

Would LSAC overlook this as it is "non-punitive", or will they punish me for dropping a class regardless?

On my transcripts, it looks like:

Art 199 Clay Sculpt. workshop Grade: A Repeat: N Attempted Credit: 3 Earned: 3 Pass: 0 GPA credits: 3 Quality points: 12

ENL 101 College Composition Grade: A Repeat: N Attempted Credit: 3 Earned: 3 Pass: 0 GPA credits: 3 Quality points: 12

WLD 125 Arc Welding I Grade: W Repeat: N Attempted Credit: 2 Earned: 0 Pass: 0 GPA credits: 0 Quality points: 0

Term totals: Attempted Credits: 8, Earned: 6, Pass: 0, GPA credits: 6, Quality points: 24, GPA: 4.00

I'm thinking it should be okay since it had no effect on the gpa, and wasn't a "Withdrawn/Failing". What say you?

And if it does, how would I go about maybe having this corrected at my CC so that it doesn't impact?

Has anyone done one? I have one scheduled for this afternoon and I could use some input! Thanks!

I've posted about this before, but have hit yet another road block and need some advice on how to proceed.

Back Story:

I've sent one e-mail to the schools I applied to letting them know my transcripts would change after my CC sent the right one. The transcripts did change, just not accurately. So now there will be a SECOND change to the transcripts.

So this is where I am stuck, do I e-mail the schools again saying "oh sorry, something else is messed up now" or do I just wait for it to get completely resolved? (I have no idea how long that will take) Will schools just auto-reject me because of this? This is absolutely insane...

The diff in GPA is 2.83 vs 3.1x if it is done correctly.

This is absolutely killing me!

I just wanted to publicly praise @"David.Busis" and the incredible difference the admissions package has made in my cycle! If anyone is even remotely thinking about purchasing it, have no more hesitation!! I firmly believe the admissions package has made all the difference in my cycle thus far. I just got in at UC Irvine today and I KNOW that my PS/Why UCI/Resume made ALL the difference!

Hi everyone,

I graduated in 2016 from XULA with a 2.3 GPA due to taking on many responsibilities at home. For example, I helped supplement the income in my household in which I worked full-time for most of my career. This is my regular GPA and not my LSAC gpa which I terrified about. I knew I wanted to be a lawyer since I was 11 years old but I have been through so much life wise. Is there hope for me and if so what are some tips I could use to improve my chances

What should I do if I already told law schools I'm going to take the Feb test but I know that I won't perform very well on it?

My applications are already in. GPA 3.74 Last LSAT 161. Really want to get into some reaching schools like USC and UCLA. Should I mentally prepare myself for rejections and apply again next cycle?

Hi everyone! I have recently decided to postpone my applications to next cycle. Having an active CRS registration, I’ve received a ton of fee waivers from schools. I was going to send out some quick “Thank you for the fee waiver” emails, and ask them to apply waivers to my account for next cycle. Do you guys think it would be good to do it now, or wait till closer to next year’s cycle?

In 2012, I received a NP in Intro to Political Science which LSAC considers an F. Long story short, I took that class a long time ago when I was first considering law school and it was purely for educational enrichment, I took it over the summer for christ sake.

Should I explain this in the addenda? I do have a reasonable excuse for not taking the final, the professor was very strict about when he wanted his tests done and when I exceeded the time allotted for both tests with my one Philosophy final (with testing accommodations), I asked for an extension and it wasn't granted. If it were any other class maybe it wouldn't matter but since I'm applying to law school I feel as though I should explain this. But I also don't want to look really dumb by exceeding the time limit for two tests with just one. The philosophy final was super writing heavy but still.

Any thoughts? Suggestions?

Thank you,

Steph